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* ''[[Hey You, Pikachu!/YMMV|Hey You Pikachu]]''
* ''[[Pokémon Trading Card Game/YMMV|Pokémon Trading Card Game]]''
* ''[[Pokémon Channel/YMMV|Channel]]''
* ''[[Pokémon Go/YMMV|Go]]''
* ''[[Pokémon Conquest/YMMV|Conquest]]''
* ''[[Pokémon Rumble/YMMV|Rumble]]''
* ''[[Poke Park Wii/YMMV|Poke Park Wii]]''
 
== [[Manga]] ==
* ''[[Pocket Monsters (manga)]]''
* ''[[Pokémon Zensho]]''
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* ''[[Guardians of Pokémon/YMMV|Guardians of Pokémon]]''
* ''[[Moképon/YMMV|Mokepon]]''
* ''[[Pokémon Master/YMMV|YMMVPokémon Master]]''
* ''[[Pokémon-X/YMMV|YMMVPokémon-X]]''
* ''[[Pokémon: Storm Clouds/YMMV|Pokemon: Storm Clouds]]''
* ''[[Pokémon Quartz/YMMV|Pokémon Quartz]]''
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* ''[[The Quest for the Legends/YMMV|The Quest for The Legends]]''
* ''[[We Are All Pokémon Trainers (Roleplay)/YMMV|We Are All Pokémon Trainers]]''
* ''[[A Miscellaneous Tale of Night and Day/YMMV|A Miscellaneous Tale of Night and Day]]''
* ''[[Bulbagarden the Fanfic/YMMV|Bulbagarden the Fanfic]]''
* ''[[Challenger/YMMV|Challenger]]''
* ''[[The Darkness Within/YMMV|The Darkness Within]]''
* ''[[Experiment 117/YMMV|Experiment 117]]''
 
== YMMVs that apply to the franchise as a whole: ==
===A-E===
* [[Accidental Innuendo]]: Basically, anyone who talks about Poké Balls.
** In fact, in ''HeartGold and SoulSilver'', when the player first meets Kurt, he says, "(Player), eh? You want me to make some balls for you?"
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** [[Memetic Mutation|Professor Oak]] [http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6z4egUJh61qz8e06.bmp came].
** Magmar and especially Magby's Japanese names: Boober and Booby, respectively! Of course, it was ''MEANT'' to reference birds like the [[wikipedia:Blue Footed Booby|Blue-Footed Booby]], but... [[Freud Was Right|well...]]
*** And Magmortar is '''Boo''b'''urn'''. Ouch.
** The fur in between Reshiram's legs is rather...suspicious and quite an unfortunate design choice.
*** Not just Reshiram. Quite a few Pokémon have a tuft of fur between their legs, like Blaziken and Beartic.
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** The Rock-type move "Rollout" hits 3-5 turns in a row and doubles in power every time it hits (85% of the time). Rock is one of the best offensive types, inflicting an additional double damage against the (very common) Flying and Bug types, and resisted only by the (less common) Ground, Fighting, and Steel types.
** Watchog. The entire genus is a walking middle finger to Nuzlockers.
* [[Die for Our Ship]]: Has [[Die for Our Ship/Anime and Manga/Pokémon|its own subpage]].
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: [[Loads and Loads of Characters|Naturally]], the series is full of these.
** Charizard is one of the most recognized and popular Pokémon [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff|in the Western world]], having nabbed 1st place in the IGN popularity poll mentioned above (indicating that it could be the most popular Pokémon among the older male fandom).
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** Despite no actual indication in game<ref>Seriously, there's no actual evidence to prove it, and many of the copy-pasted items that made it a meme often misquote the game or make up stuff whole cloth</ref> and having been ripped to shreds on many a forum, a small band of "fans" are still insistent that the Gen I rival's Raticate died. And that you killed it.
*** Above "troper" fails at impartial reporting. Why would it need evidence, it's a theory about why he no longer has a Raticate. Isn't the pokemon disappearing evidence itself?
 
===F-J===
* [[Fan Dumb]]: Expect lots of this, due to the massively [[Broken Base]].
* [[Fan Nickname]]: Genesect is commonly referred to on 4chan as Dennis.
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* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]: Vulpix and Ninetales. They're literally Firefox!
* [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks]]: All of the [[Updated Rerelease|updated rereleases]] and [[Video Game Remake|remakes]] (and to a lesser extent, the first titles in any given generation) have run into a certain amount of these complaints.
 
===K-O===
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Team Rocket's Giovanni, Team Galactic's Cyrus, Team Plasma's Colress, and the Aether Foundation's Lusamine are fine examples. Lysandre, the boss of Team Flare, has entered this trope in anime and manga adaptations as opposed to the [[Smug Snake]] [[Politically-Incorrect Villain]] status he held in his game(s).
* [[Member Berries]]: One of the biggest recurring criticisms of the sixth generation of ''[[Pokémon]]'' and beyond is them being far too reliant on [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Kanto-era]] nostalgia pandering.
** ''[[Pokémon X and Y]]'' was particularly lousy with this, doing things such as making a Pidgey your mandatory first wild Pokémon encounter instead of one of the Kalos region's original [[Com Mons]], Santalune Forest having the exact same layout and encounter table as Viridian Forest (with a few newer Pokémon thrown in to spice things up), and Professor Sycamore forcing you to pick one of the original three Kanto starters a little after you pick a Kalos starters. Guess which starters get Mega Evolutions? Not the Kalos starters, that's for sure. Most of the legendary Pokémon you encounter are also Kanto legendaries: you chase down one of the legendary birds in the postgame, and Mewtwo is living in a cave in Pokémon Village despite there being no logical reason for it to do so aside from nostalgia pandering. While far from the biggest complaint levied at the game, these references were viewed as awkwardly shoehorned-in and detracted from the Kalos region's unique atmosphere.
** ''[[Pokémon Sun and Moon]]'' ran afoul of Kanto-flavored Member Berries in a different way: the introduction of Alolan forms for older Pokémon. The concept was and still is celebrated for breathing fresh air into old Pokémon by giving them different typings, movepools, and even stat spreads to play around with. But once it became clear that the only Pokémon that would be getting Alolan forms were Kanto Pokémon, they caught a lot more flack for being indicative of Game Freak playing favorites and crippling a mechanic with a ton of potential. Not helping matters is the fact that they're accompanied by the introduction of Professor Oak's similar looking relative Samson Oak, and the protagonist being a Kanto native instead of anywhere else. {{spoiler|Lillie traveling to Kanto so she can start her Pokémon journey}} also caught flack for similar reasons.
** ''[[Pokémon Sword and Shield]]'' would take a few steps back from the Kanto pandering... mainly because Gen 8 dedicated an ''entirely different game'' to it by giving ''Red and Blue'' their second pair of remakes in the form of ''[[Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee]]'' which is basically the same games, but tailored to new players and ''[[Pokémon Go]]'' fans with a few references to ''Yellow'' here and there. But even with the ''Let's Go'' games doing the brunt of the Kanto pandering, Champion Leon in ''Sword and Shield'' having a Charizard as his star Pokémon instead of a powerful Galar Pokémon still caused a lot of players to roll their eyes.
* [[Memetic Molester]]: Online interpretations of Drowzee/Hypno lean towards either pedophilia or murder. ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]'' doesn't help.
* [[Memetic Sex God]]: Several 'Mons, as well as some of the characters.
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** Giratina's cry, as well as the fact that it seems to be based on the antithesis of Arceus.
* [[Nintendo Hard]]: You thought getting that National Diploma in White was hard? WRONG! Achieving feat known commonly as Living Pokédex is much harder. It requires to have all species ''at once'', usually in Boxes and in National order. Now how the hell are you going to get all these [[Pokémon Red and Blue|151]]/[[Pokémon Gold and Silver|251]]/[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|38]][[Pokémon Firered and Leafgreen|6]]/[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|49]][[Pokémon Heart Gold and Soul Silver|3]]/[[Pokémon Black and White|64]][[Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|9]] Poké Balls?
 
===P-T===
* [[Periphery Demographic]]: Outside its obvious target demographic, it is also quite popular with young adults that were kids in [[The Nineties|the late 1990s]] when the series was introduced, as well as with [[Otaku]] and JRPG fans in general. It can also be [[Your Mileage May Vary|argued]] that ''Pokémon'' has been the greatest influence on Internet culture out of all mega-media-franchises, considering its popularity on [[Image Boards]] and the number of [[Fountain of Memes|memes]], videos and fan tributes that the franchise has spawned.
* [[Rescued from the Scrappy Heap]]: Roost and Brave Bird are two moves that greatly improved the potential of Pidgeot, making it at least able to hurt or last against opponents.
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** Garchomp is scrappy enough to get him banned in two generation in a row, due to its stats, typing, and evasion ability.
** On low-high tier ends(yes you read it right, low-high tier) theres Electivire and Umbreon back in gen 4. Both are claimed to be too weak in OU yet Noobs used them so much that it become OU where they cant compete. Especialy the former thanks to [[Hype Backlash]](Electivire is a good pokemon on its own right with good stats and coverage, and ability that make it a good partner to Gyarados, much like Jolteon making it seems to be a huge threat. Unfortunately, Super Effective is not same as a KO. And Electivire lacks a powerful STAB move and unlike Gyarados, lacks good stats buffing move as well, combined with fragility means it cant set up anyway). It was so bad that one generation after that, the case is still commonly brought up amongst competitive player.
 
===U-Z===
* [[Uncanny Valley]]: Mr.Mime, Jynx, etc.
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]: Oh boy. You wouldn't ''believe'' the amount of controversy Jynx sparked in the U.S. Let's just say that's the reason why she has a purple and not a black face today.
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** Team Rocket is based off of the Yakuza in the Japanese version. In the other versions, they are based off of the more locally recognizable Italian Mafia stereotype, even down to the boss being named "Giovanni".
 
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