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* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]]: Are Reshiram and Zekrom [[Yin-Yang Clash|two separate entities that have come to despise each other]] [[This Is My Side|because they are polar opposites never to meet]], or do they [[Putting the Band Back Together|long to turn back into the original dragon they were before]] [[Ship Tease|and be together]]? The latter seems a fairly popular interpretation on Pixiv.

** N is often subject to this, especially considering the fact that every time you fight him he has a new party of Pokémon, as well as the more vague aspects of his backstory.

*** Not to mention interpreting him as a tragic, sympathetic [[The Woobie|Woobie]] who's shipped with the player characters or a mouth-breathing [[Stalker with a Crush]]...who is shipped with the [[Memetic Molester|player characters]].

** Unlike in other entries in the series, the Elite Four battle music is quite different than the gym leader theme. It's actually relatively slow and cerebral, which is a nice departure from most battle music, and fitting for the more intellectual Elite Four.

** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgYzRc4ZmBY&hd=1 The ending] song also counts as this.

* [[Breather Boss]]: If you just bring a decent Electric-type to fight Skyla, you've pretty much won. Almost everything in the cave just prior to fighting her will sweep her whole team with no effort at all, with the possible exception of Boldore, because it's weak to Water. Doesn't help that her main Pokemon is doubly weak to Electric.

** Brycen's gym is based around the Ice type, the flat-out ''worst'' defensive type in the series, bar none. If your Pokemon are near the 35 that the gym expects of you, a properly-equipped team will demolish it all, Victini or no.

* [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]: Anyone who insists the story in this game is the same formula as any other Pokémon game has clearly '''''not''''' played it at all...and if they have they must have stopped before the fourth badge. Considering the videos about this game were ''all over the internet'' since ''the September before their international release'', it's amazing how little research people have done.

* [[Complete Monster]]: ''Ghetsis.'' His acts at the end of the game, {{spoiler|plus his motives for exploiting N}}, strap him to a Garchomp for his full-speed flight across the [[Moral Event Horizon]]. He's a strong competitor for the biggest [[Complete Monster]] in the series, which is [[Pokémon Colosseum|really]] [[Pokémon Ranger|saying]] [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|something.]]

** {{spoiler|To drive it even further home, even fellow [[Complete Monster|Complete Monsters]] like [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Darkrai]] and [[Pokémon Ranger|Purple Eyes]] are at least shown to never be able to cause harm to anyone else again. Ghetsis, however, is still around, and it's hinted in the back story that he's done far worse then we're shown to believe.}}

** Something else that's horrifying about him is he states {{spoiler|he actually enjoys the moment when someone crosses the [[Despair Event Horizon]] and have lost all hope. This man is a sadist who enjoys crushing people's spirits just to elevate himself.}}

** To top it all off, he's [[The Devil]]. No, seriously. Read his entry there.

* [[Crazy Awesome]] / [[Rule of Cool]]: Several Pokémon, especially some of the more audacious combinations, run on this. A buffalo with an afro, a jousting bug, a samurai otter/seal/sea lion, a mecha/golem ghost, a [[Henshin Hero]], an eagle with the US color scheme, an ice cream cone, gangster crocodile, punk lizard, the three freaking musketeers, a trio of giant elemental dragons with aspects of Taoist ''and'' Norse mythology, a robotic insect with a laser on its back, a killer dinosaur-bird, and last but not least, a mummy Pokémon whose ability is the Pokémon equivalent of the zombie plague.

** Within that group, Vanillite and its evolutions. And nevermind the fact they're a bunch of ice cream cones; the champion has one!

** Not to mention the fact that they are the first Pokémon to be designed by a westerner, along with the [[American Robot]].

* [[Demonic Spiders]]: The Patrat line. They learn Bide, Detect, Sand-Attack, Hypnosis, Confuse Ray, Super Fang, and Crunch - moves which either annoy the heck out of your Pokémon or hurt a lot. And they're very common in the wild (especially Watchog). Worst of all, Team Plasma absolutely LOVE to use these things.

** The first Watchog you'll be seeing is Lenora's, and it makes her battle a [[That One Boss|living hell]] for many players.

** And then Gamespot gives it a 7.5 while most other publications give it 8.0 plus. Cue the angry mob.

* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Snivy is by far the favorite of the starters and was the only one with a consistent [[Fan Nickname]] (Smugleaf is near-universal, and the only usual alternate, which [[Ascended Meme|ended up becoming the official name]], Snivy, is similar in meaning: Snake/Snide/Ivy. Meanwhile, Oshawott was either [[The Scrappy|Derpderp]] or [[The Woobie|Wotter]], depending on your temperament, and Tepig had too many puns to pick from) and Braviary the [[Patriotic Fervor|American]] eagle.

** The [[Power Trio|Striaton triplets]], [[Shock and Awe|Elesa]], [[Ms. Fanservice|Skyla]], [[Casting a Shadow|Grimsley]], and the [[Dual Boss|Battle Subway masters]] all have fairly strong followings as well.

*** Don't forget the heartbreaker....his name...Charles....

*** Genesect too, by way of [[Memetic Badass|Memetic Badassery]] and being called "[[Fan Nickname|DEN]][[Mondegreen|NIS]]".

** Golurk is basically a [[Humongous Mecha]], which obviously brings it a bit of a following.

** [http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5922/fakeaugustcoro.jpg A fake magazine scan] showed a sad-looking, football-like Pokemon, also known as Sadfish. Even though it wasn't a real Pokemon, people were pretty bummed it didn't make it into the game.

** Heatmor and Durant are surprisingly popular.

** Like with the Shadow Triad, nobody is really sure who--or ''what''--Concordia and Anthea are. Are they truly goddesses? Are they related to N or Ghetsis at all? Are they figments of the protagonist's imagination?

*** Particularly, quite a few theories abound that Concordia {{spoiler|may have some kind of relationship with Ghetsis or N, similar to the theories about [[Pokémon Gold and Silver|Ariana being Silver's mother]].}} As for Anthea, very few theorize her as little more than a handmaid to N.

* [[Everything Is Racist]]: To be fair, a lot of this is tongue-in-cheek.

** People are citing the fact that there are people of both black and white color in this game, and the fact that in White, the dark-skinned Iris is version-exclusive as a gym leader with the light-skinned Drayden in Black, as [[Unfortunate Implications]] somehow.

** For a bit of a change: There are a couple of French-speaking trainers on Route 11 (during the postgame). One of them uses a Croagunk, [[Captain Obvious|a frog Pokémon]].

*** It's worth mentioning that in the Japanese version, the Croagunk trainer speaks English.

** This also applies to Hydreigon as a species. And Team Plasma. And N (kinda).

* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Believe it or not, {{spoiler|Ghetsis}}. Sure he's utterly twisted and evil- but still good-looking.

* [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks]]: The Fire-type starter's evolutions were revealed to be Fire/Fighting types. Just like the last two generations. [[Broken Base|Some fans]] [[Internet Backdraft|got]] ''[[Ruined FOREVER|pissed]]'', due to perceived [[Lazy Artist|laziness]] on the part of Game Freak. There are plenty of people complaining about the other starters being respectively pure Grass- and Water-type as well, but it's generally not seen as bad as giving the Fire starter the same secondary type ''three times in a row''.

* [[Just Here for Godzilla]]: Some fans couldn't care less about the improved plotline. Some even hate its existence and [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|the fact that it plays with Pokémon's usual formula a bit]], as well as [[Developing Doomed Characters|the fact that they have to get through it to get to postgame goodies like older Pokémon]].

* [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships]]: Surprisingly, it's more so the ''male'' protagonist being shipped with a lot of Pokémon characters... Also Snivy.

** Keep in mind that this was back when the [[Complete Monster]] trope was defined differently on the TV Tropes wiki. Currently, none of the main series villains qualify for the trope, including Ghetsis himself despite him meeting the general qualifications needed to pass. Needless to say, people are not happy with the wiki for that. Here, though, his status on the trope thankfully remains in-tact.

* [[Magnum Opus]]: [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=206 Masuda believes that this game is "the masterpiece" out of all the games he's made.]

** [[So Cool It's Awesome (Sugar Wiki)|So Cool It's Awesome]]: These games are hailed by a large number of critics and fans as among the series' best; to many of them, these, along with [[Pokémon Gold and Silver|the Gen II remakes]], marked the point where Game Freak actually started trying to be innovative again.

** Pokémon Battles on ''Bicycles''. [[Yu-Gi-Oh!: The Abridged Series|Card games on MOTORCYCLES!]]

** The airport is one.

** When Victini was revealed to be #000 in the Isshu dex, Missingno. jokes popped up quite quickly.

** N can't ''x''.

** The title still stands for {{spoiler|Cynthia. Her [[Memetic Molester]] status has also increased, due to a reference to the previous protagonist, and her own reappearance.}}

** Grimsley is gaining a reputation as this amongst certain fan circles.

*** The traditional "This series sucks, why do people still like this?" threads are up. Pokémon has been around since the 1990s - we knew what happened in the games since before they were released outside of Japan thanks to the internet. And yet people ''still'' are pointing fingers at ''Nintendo'', one of the ''publishers'', for stuff that is ''clearly'' out of their hands. Poor [[Game Freak]] - they saved the Game Boy and ''still'' have received no credit outside of Japan.

* [[Moe]]: Bianca can be viewed as this.

** Also, the Striaton Trio, possibly.

* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Technically, all of Ghetsis' actions in the game are [[Kick the Dog|dog kicking]]. Considering {{spoiler|the only reason ''N exists in the first place'' was to [[It's All About Me|achieve his selfish desires]], he's crossed the [[Moral Event Horizon]] ''long ago before the game even started.''}}

** Read the spoilers if you're prepared for the horror - {{spoiler|Ghetsis knew a self-centered man like him could never be the hero of legend, so he raised his own son N specifically to fit the qualifications needed to be the hero and to be the key pawn in his master plan. He kept N locked up in a room filled with toys for years in order to stunt his emotional growth, and had Anthea and Concordia frequently tend to him so that his innocence and purity could be preserved. He himself told N that Team Plasma was fighting to liberate Pokemon from their captivity and oppression at the hands of humans, and even provided abused Pokemon for N as playmates. Ghetsis' own minions had abused the Pokemon and since N could hear their thoughts and feel their pain, he came to believe that all humans hurt Pokemon and that all Pokemon long to be far away from humans. After N had come of age and was crowned Team Plasma's king, Ghetsis began his crusade to capture the hearts and minds of the trainer population, the grand crescendo of which would come when N, using Reshiram or Zekrom, could defeat the Champion and allow Team Plasma to take over the league. N would then issue a command to every human in the Unova region to release all their Pokemon or risk the region's destruction again. In reverence of the hero and the belief that his way is the truth or ideal ("having Pokemon will be considered a bad thing" as Ghetsis puts it), the trainers would release all their Pokemon...''which would leave Ghetsis and his select followers as the only ones with Pokemon that they're able to use.'' After N's purpose had been served, Ghetsis would throw him away and take Reshiram/Zekrom for himself, and then with his personal Pokemon army headed by the legendary Pokemon of the hero, would go to war with all other regions and repeat the process so that more region's worth of Pokemon get added to his forces. The more Pokemon, the more power, and with enough power, Ghetsis could take over the entire world, bringing about a Dystopian new world order in which he, as the ruler who is the only one allowed to have and use Pokemon, has unlimited influence, privilege, and control over everything that lives and is free to oppress and suppress everyone by using threat of force via his supepowered mons. And the reason for ''all'' this? He felt ''entitled'' to it. Such a depraved goal with equally depraved methods of reaching it gives Ghetsis a claim to ''living'' far over the line on the Moral Event Horizon, making him the series' most evil villain to date.}}

* [[Most Wonderful Sound (Sugar Wiki)|Most Wonderful Sound]]: The sound of rustling grass. Audino exp bashing time, here we go!

** N informing you that the Shadow Triad has been spying on you and your friends when you meet him in Chargestone Cave can be pretty paranoia-inducing as well.

* [[Purity Sue]]: According to [[Word of God]], this is what N basically ''believes'' himself to be due to his upbringing: he believes that as far as humans go, because he can understand Pokemon, he is the "perfect" savior of Pokemon. A great part of his [[Character Development]] is him learning that being pure doesn't equate to being "perfect" in his ideals and view of the world.

** Many new Pokemon felt this way. Those who weren't killed by overdoses of [[Goddamn Bats|Zubats, Geodudes, Machops, and Tentacool]] before (or just liked them for their venerability in the franchise) were frustrated when Woobats, Reggenrola, Timburr, and Frillish took over. It doesn't help that they [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute|basically feel like updated releases]] of the old families replaced.

** Bug type. In previous generations "new Bug type pokemon" usually meant "A bunch of earlygame bugs, usually early evolving as well, whose stats just plain suck. Also, half of them is Bug/Flying, a shit typing weak to everything ever, another half is Bug/Poison" The only ones that are at least playable were Scyther/Scizor, Nincada family, Heracross and Pineco/Forretress. Prior to generation IV, the fact that Bug just sucks was also supported by having pretty much no attacks. What did Black and White do? They introduced ''eighteen'' bugs. All of them with great stats. Not a single one evolves early. Around half of them have new typings. Three of them are Bug/Steel (only one weakness). Scolipede is able to learn freaking ''Earthquake'' and ''Rock Slide''. Galvantula gets a STAB Thunder with ''much better'' accuracy thanks to Compoundeyes. Durant has crazy-awesome attack power with its Hustle ability, albeit with a little less accuracy, and it gets even better with Hone Claws, which boosts Attack and Accuracy. And it, too, can learn Rock Slide. Volcarona has the awesome Quiver Dance and a solid Base 80 signature move which has a pretty good chance of boosting its Special Attack. Volcarona is really close to being a legendary, seeing as there's one in the whole game sitting in a tower at level 70, like all legendaries do. And that's a shame, because the title of the first legendary Bug-type in the series goes to Genesect, also introduced in this generation. "Bug trainer" is no longer a stigma.

*** As an extra example: the Champion of the Pokemon League has ''three'' Bug-type Pokemon. The most powerful trainer in the land has Bug-types as ''half his team''.

** Zorua and Zoroark have come under increasing fire as well, due in no small part to the fact that both of them are event-only Pokémon.

** Pansage already wasn't popular because it was yet another monkey-based Pokémon, but since Panpour and Pansear made an [[Underground Monkey]] of him, Panpour and Pansear, the results aren't pretty.

** The evolved forms of Tepig are '''yet''' another Fire/Fighting starter.

*** ''[[Awkward Zombie]]'' [http://awkwardzombie.com/index.php?page=0&comic=032111 had a field day with that.]

** Since the Global Link was opened, people have been getting mad at Fennel if they can't access the Dream World, thanks to her [http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n573/AuraChannelerChris/Fennel-1-1.png taunting expression].

** Audino, due to being so common in the shaking grass patches where there are possibilities of much rarer Pokemon. They tend to make up for it by being [[Metal Slime|Metal Slimes]], but it can be pretty aggravating when you just want to catch a damn Emolga.

* [[Ship Tease]]: You get to take NPCs on a ferris wheel ride in Nimbasa City. The actual NPC varies by season, but all of their names have the name of the season in it.

* [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]]: The shipping community for the games is usually (mostly) civil compared to the anime, but for some reason, these particular games have caused some very nasty flame wars and [[Fan Hater|Fan Hating]] on opposing ships. The most notorious of these is the [[Foe Yay|N x Hilda]] vs. [[Ho Yay|N x Hilbert]] vs. [[Single Woman Seeks Good Man|Hilbert x Hilda]] war, with [[Die for Our Ship]] in full effect for the member of the triangle excluded from one's [[OTP]].

** N introduces the Shadow Triad as men, but that hasn't stopped the fans from questioning their gender, especially since it is only addressed once. In ''[[Pokémon Special]]'', they look like masked versions of [[Death Note|Mello]]. Not helping. At all.

*** Also does not help at all that we only ever see their overworld sprites in-game. Because [[The Unfought|they never fight you]], they don't have portrait sprites that would help clear things up.

* [[The Woobie]]: According to its Pokédex entries, Yamask's gold mask is its face from its time as a human thousands of years ago before turning into a mummy, and it still has memories from those times. [[Tear Jerker|It occasionally stares at the mask, sobbing.]]

** [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: Then it evolves into Cofagrigus, which eats humans and turns them into mummies.

*** [[Fridge Horror|So that's how these guys reproduce! Cofagrigus turn people into Yamask, which then evolve into Cofagrigus]]...

** Believe it or not, Kyurem. Since it's frozen, everyone is afraid of it, and it can't even use its powers to their full potential, Kyurem fans decide that [[I Just Want to Have Friends|it needs a hug]]. (No one can ''prove'' that it really ate people...)