Pokémon Diamond and Pearl/YMMV: Difference between revisions

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* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]: Aside from what makes the games divisive (although not even nearly as much as ''[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire]]'' four years before), most of their flaws are foiled by the introduction of online play, an element first implemented with the Sinnoh-based games. Although online battles weren't implemented in the desired "versus anyone" way until ''[[Pokémon Black and White]]'', the addition of online trades made up for it.

* [[Base Breaker]]: Barry is either [[Adorkable]] and a worthy rival or annoying and not as [[Badass]] as [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Blue]] and [[Pokémon Gold and Silver|Silver]].

** Can't forget about Cyrus, now, can we? He's either a [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]], an [[Omnicidal Maniac]] too far gone over the [[Moral Event Horizon]] , or perhaps even both.

** Garchomp. You either love it for being an Uber [[Badass]] dragon, or hate it for being one of the biggest [[Game Breaker|Game Breakers]] in the franchise.

** Lucario. Depending on who you ask, it's either a badass cool looking Pokémon that's useful in battle, or a bland piece of furbait that was forced in marketing campaigns.

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* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Cyrus. The fangirls have latched onto him and won't let go, both in and out of game.

** Game Freak themselves seemed to want the players to feel sorry for him by adding his grandfather to Platinum and telling us about his sad, oppressive past. Of course, not too much, since we still want to beat him and put a stop to his plans...

* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Looker. Also Lucario, thanks to its appearance in the eighth movie and (later) ''[[Super Smash Bros]] Brawl''. The fact that it performs quite well in competitive battling also helps.

* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Looker. Also Lucario, thanks to its appearance in the eighth movie and (later) ''[[Super Smash Bros.]] Brawl''. The fact that it performs quite well in competitive battling also helps.

** Riley counts because he's a [[Bishounen|pretty boy]] with [[You Gotta Have Blue Hair|blue hair]] and a [[Badass Longcoat|trenchcoat.]] Just see how much fanart he gets compared to the other trainers you end up teaming up with.

** Gliscor became a staple in competitive teams this generation thanks to it's useful typing and solid defensive stats. It's badass design also helps a lot.

** Despite being two common Pokémon that can be obtained pretty damn early, both the Shinx and Starly lines are very popular Pokémon that you tend to see on many people's in-game teams. The Starly line becomes ''beastly'' upon evolution, as Staravia gets the Intimidate ability and Staraptor learns ludicrously powerful moves like Close Combat and Brave Bird. Shinx isn't ''quite'' as good, but still able to hold it's own in fights, and is very popular design wise for being adorable, while it's final evolution Luxray gets love for looking [[Badass.]]

* [[Evil Is Cool]]: Cyrus may have be a lost cause, but that didn't change the fact that he was badass.

* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Pretty much all the Team Galactic members (with the exception of Charon) are really hot. Cyrus is an unusual case because he isn't ''especially'' good-looking, yet he still manages to be very attractive in other ways.

* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: ''[[Lolicon|Cyrus/Dawn]]'' is almost omnipresent in the fandom and has a surprisingly large following.

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** That, and probably the fact that some people would use it to scream obscenities at their opponents.

* [[Genius Bonus]]: Empoleon is the same height as Napoleon Bonaparte (Care to guess what Empoleon's name was based off of?).

** In Japan, Empoleon is known as "Emperte", so the theme is the same, except just using Bonaparte's ''last'' name instead.

* [[Ho Yay]]: Volkner/Flint and Male!PC/Rival.

* [[Internet Backdraft]]: The subject of Stealth Rock seems to be getting a bit of this. It doesn't help now that it's really easy to get in HeartGold and SoulSilver.

* [[Just Here for Godzilla|Just Here For The Legendaries]]

* [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships]]: Dawn. Some of the characters she's been paired with include [[Distaff Counterpart|Lucas]], [[Victorious Childhood Friend|Barry]], [[Les Yay|Cynthia]], [[Dating Catwoman|Cyrus]], [[Lolicon|Riley]], and [[Mr. Fanservice|Volkner]]! And those are just some of the more common ones!

* [[Les Yay]]:

** Candice and Maylene, especially in ''Platinum''.

** According to some people, Female PC/Cynthia.

** Mars/Jupiter has a hint of Hate Ship to it.

* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Cyrus; he's a charismatic leader, a master of exploiting emotions, and always one step ahead of you.

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* [[Memetic Mutation]]: DEEDLE DEEDLE DEEDLE DEE! '''''WHOOOOOP''''' <ref>Kricketune's call</ref>

* [[Memetic Sex God]]: Cynthia. Also, surprisingly enough, Cyrus!

* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Cyrus' entire plan and the measures he takes to accomplish it. Charon's plan for Heatran probably would've also qualified had it actually gotten off the ground.

* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: In ''Platinum'' when Giratina screeches and launches itself at the screen, mainly for creating a hell of a jump scare that one wouldn't expect in a Pokémon game!

** [[Hell Is That Noise|Giratina's cry]] in general is pretty creepy.

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* [[Sidetracked By the Golden Saucer]]: As with every other game in the series, there's a casino. And whenever that happens you end up spending hours on end trying to get the grand prize.

** The elusive Feebas, a major cause of people getting sidetracked, is in the basement of Mt. Coronet, which also happens to be where Cyrus plans to unleash Palkia and/or Dialga on Sinnoh. Don't worry, Team Galactic will wait until after you're done hunting down a rare fish before they try to destroy the world.

* [[Surprise Difficulty]]: Because the original Sinnoh dex, well... sucked (see [[Character Select Forcing]]), a lot of the gym leaders don't actually use their preferred type for the majority of their team, making them harder to sweep with a single Pokémon that knows a Super Effective move.

** The most notable examples are Volkner and Flint. For each one, half of the Pokémon on their teams don't follow their preferred typing. The electric trainer Volkner has an Octillery and an Ambipom, while Flint's got a Steelix, Drifblim, and Lopunny. Some of these Pokémon are put there to combat the common killers of their favorite types (Octillery beats Ground Pokémon and Steelix beats Rock Pokémon).

** Another grueling example is Candice, an Ice-type leader who has a Psychic/Fighting-type Medicham on her team, somehow making the cut by knowing Ice Punch. A Psychic/Fighting-type is super-effective against all but one of Ice's common weaknesses (that being Fire), and can seriously trip up someone who thought that they'd sweep the Gym with a Fighting, Steel, or Rock-type.

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** [[That One Boss|That One Miniboss]]: the unavoidable double battle near Veilstone City. They don't look like anything interesting from faraway -- just a Cool Trainer duo -- and people approach them like regular trainers, with switchgrinding and everything. And are murdered. Brutally. Good luck, especially if it's a Nuzlocke.

** The Double Team on the foggy route to Celestic Town can be quite a nasty surprise for those who don't see it coming. Their Raichu and Gyarados provide outstanding type coverage, and can easily wreck the unprepared.

** Champion Cynthia is easily THE hardest champion in the series. Her team is full of Pokémon of various types with perfect IV's, and all are built to suit their role rather well. Her Garchomp in particular can sweep entire ''teams'' thanks to possessing fantastic stats, but the rest of her team don't let up either.

** Fantina, especially in Platinum where she's the third Gym Leader-- fully-evolved Mismagius included with no modifcations made to it's moveset whatsoever.

** Jupiter can be surprisingly hard despite being only the second commander. Her Skuntank is at a much lower level than it's supposed to be when it evolves, and comes rather early in the game. Thanks to it's Poison status affects, often-critical night Slashes, and surprising bulk, she can be a real bitch to take down.

** The Double Battle with her and Mars at Spear Pillar can be a real pain thanks to not only Barry's uncooperative AI, but the fact that he leads with a useless Munchlax which more or less leaves you stuck in a 6-vs-1 Double Battle with you on the losing side.

** Maylene's first two Pokémon are nothing special, but her Lucario is a ''monster'' thanks to great stats and type coverage.

* [[The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard]]: Commander Mars's impossible-at-that-level Purugly comes to mind. Also, is it just me or does Roark's Cranidos only ever use Pursuit if you're switching something out that turn?

* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: In the European Platinum versions, you can't play the slot machines in the game corner, instead you can gather some coins from them once a day. This also means the only way to get the Explosion TM without trading or cheating is to hope the attendant randomly decides to give you one.