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* [[Anticlimax Boss]]: One of the more noted weakness of this set of games is that both the rival (who doesn't fully evolve his/her starter and is the only one who can't be battled infinitely) and the Aqua/Magma |
* [[Anticlimax Boss]]: One of the more noted weakness of this set of games is that both the rival (who doesn't fully evolve his/her starter and is the only one who can't be battled infinitely) and the Aqua/Magma Bosses (who only use a mere three Pokémon, all of them ones that ''every one'' of their grunts use) are really pathetic compared to the rivals and evil team leaders in the rest of the series. Them getting Mega Sharpedo and Mega Camerupt respectively may rectify this, but only time will tell. |
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* [[Bragging Rights Reward]]: This generation started the trend of marking what ball you caught a pokemon in. So yes, if you catch a Legendary in a Poke Ball, everyone will know. |
* [[Bragging Rights Reward]]: This generation started the trend of marking what ball you caught a pokemon in. So yes, if you catch a Legendary in a Poke Ball, everyone will know. |
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* [[Breather Boss]]: Tate and Liza are fairly easy in ''Ruby and Sapphire'', only having 2 Pokemon between them, both of which are easily taken down by Surf which is required to get to their Gym in the first place. In ''Emerald'' they |
* [[Breather Boss]]: Tate and Liza are fairly easy in ''Ruby and Sapphire'', only having 2 Pokemon between them, both of which are easily taken down by Surf which is required to get to their Gym in the first place. In ''Emerald'' though, they really stepped up their game. |
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** Flannery is fairly easy to take down provided you have a water type. |
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* [[Crowning Moment of Funny]]: |
* [[Crowning Moment of Funny]]: |
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** The Dewford trendy sayings. You can make them whatever you want, and the hilarious combinations are endless. |
** The Dewford trendy sayings. You can make them whatever you want, and the hilarious combinations are endless. |
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* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: Archie's and Maxie's battle theme. |
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: Archie's and Maxie's battle theme. |
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** ''Every battle theme in the whole game''. And even the title screen and overworld music could qualify. |
** ''Every battle theme in the whole game''. And even the title screen and overworld music could qualify. |
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* [[Demonic Spiders]]: Whismur. WHISMUR used UPROAR! Half of your team's health meters are yellow (or possibly red) thanks to it doing a lot of damage. And if you're not careful, it can result in a couple Pokémon |
* [[Demonic Spiders]]: Whismur. WHISMUR used UPROAR! Half of your team's health meters are yellow (or possibly red) thanks to it doing a lot of damage. And if you're not careful, it can result in a couple Pokémon fainting. |
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* [[Disappointing Last Level]]: The last quarter of the game requires an immense amount of surfing. Hope you like [[Goddamned Bats|Tentacool and Wingull]]. |
* [[Disappointing Last Level]]: The last quarter of the game requires an immense amount of surfing. Hope you like [[Goddamned Bats|Tentacool and Wingull]] (Though lots of repels will certainly help). |
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* [[Discredited Meme]]: After the "Do you liek Mudkips?" meme came out in full force, a lot of people became sick of it pretty correctly. |
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* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Sure, Archie and Maxie were some of the least openly-evil villain bosses to begin with, but some fans go even further and remove any traces of responsibility for their crimes from them. And then there's their underlings, who get this treatment as well despite being [[Psycho Supporter|Psycho Supporters]] or [[Jerkass|Jerkasses]]. |
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Sure, Archie and Maxie were some of the least openly-evil villain bosses to begin with, but some fans go even further and remove any traces of responsibility for their crimes from them. And then there's their underlings, who get this treatment as well despite being [[Psycho Supporter|Psycho Supporters]] or [[Jerkass|Jerkasses]]. |
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* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Mudkip, thanks to [[Memetic Mutation]]. [[Not Allowed to Grow Up|There are plenty of people that never evolve their Mudkip at all because of this.]] |
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Mudkip, thanks to [[Memetic Mutation]]. [[Not Allowed to Grow Up|There are plenty of people that never evolve their Mudkip at all because of this.]] |
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** [[Cute Monster Girl|Gardevoir.]] [[Rule 34|Just... Gardevoir.]] |
** [[Cute Monster Girl|Gardevoir.]] [[Rule 34|Just... Gardevoir.]] |
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** Aggron is pretty popular, thanks to a certain poster. (See [[Memetic Badass]] below) |
** Aggron is pretty popular, thanks to a certain poster. (See [[Memetic Badass]] below) |
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** Among the humans, Flannery gets a lot of love. [[Fiery Redhead|Can't]] [[Ms. Fanservice|imagine]] [[Bare Your Midriff|why,]] though. |
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* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Archie, Maxie, ''and'' their [[The Dragon|Dragons]]. |
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Archie, Maxie, ''and'' their [[The Dragon|Dragons]]. |
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* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: [[Hot Skitty-On-Wailord Action|Skitty and Wailord.]] |
* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: [[Hot Skitty-On-Wailord Action|Skitty and Wailord.]] |
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* [[Guide Dang It]]: So you want to catch the Regis do you? Good luck with that one unless you have a guide. That snazzy Milotic you saw Wallace using? Don't even think about trying to get it unless you have a guide. It's just not worth it. |
* [[Guide Dang It]]: So you want to catch the Regis do you? Good luck with that one unless you have a guide. That snazzy Milotic you saw Wallace using? Don't even think about trying to get it unless you have a guide. It's just not worth it. |
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* [[Hell Is That Noise]]: The drought and flood songs are pretty creepy. |
* [[Hell Is That Noise]]: The drought and flood songs are pretty creepy. |
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* [[Junk Rare]]: Chimecho, found only in one area with a measly 2% encounter rate. |
* [[Junk Rare]]: Chimecho, found only in one area with a measly 2% encounter rate. Not ''terrible'' per se, but still nothing special compared to other easier caught Psychic types. |
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** Skitty as well, thanks to it also having a 2% encounter rate. |
** Skitty as well, thanks to it also having a 2% encounter rate. |
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* [[Memetic Badass]]: Aggron, due to [http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/yy347/HyperAthena/aggron.jpg this poster]. (Warning: Contains [[Cluster F-Bomb|Cluster F Bombs]]) |
* [[Memetic Badass]]: Aggron, due to [http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/yy347/HyperAthena/aggron.jpg this poster]. (Warning: Contains [[Cluster F-Bomb|Cluster F Bombs]]) |
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** The incredibly exhausting way of catching a Feebas, and then evolving it to a Milotic. |
** The incredibly exhausting way of catching a Feebas, and then evolving it to a Milotic. |
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** The fishing mechanic as a whole was much more needlessly complicated than in the other generations. Previously and after, you would cast your line and wait a few seconds and either get a bite or don't. In this generation, there's a needlessly long series of button pushes that literally amounts to "Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite!" |
** The fishing mechanic as a whole was much more needlessly complicated than in the other generations. Previously and after, you would cast your line and wait a few seconds and either get a bite or don't. In this generation, there's a needlessly long series of button pushes that literally amounts to "Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite! Oh a bite!" |
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** Berry farming could be aggravating, since it lacked any means of finding where you planted your berries. |
** Berry farming could be aggravating, since it lacked any means of finding where you planted your berries and a dead battery (For the game cartridge, not the system) makes berries completely impossible to grow. |
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* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: When originally released, there was no hint of a [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Generation I]] [[Video Game Remake|remake]], meaning that around 184 Pokémon were completely absent from the games. The only hint that they would return was their isolated data, which usually indicates event Pokémon (a very [[Sarcasm Mode|beloved]] game mechanic). That, combined with a number of [[Expy|expies]] for the missing 'mons, replacements for Team Rocket, no way to return to Kanto or Johto, minimal time-based events, and an overall similar structure to [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Generation I]] led many a fan to think RS was a franchise reboot, and said fans were not happy. |
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: When originally released, there was no hint of a [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Generation I]] [[Video Game Remake|remake]], meaning that around 184 Pokémon were completely absent from the games. The only hint that they would return was their isolated data, which usually indicates event Pokémon (a very [[Sarcasm Mode|beloved]] game mechanic). That, combined with a number of [[Expy|expies]] for the missing 'mons, replacements for Team Rocket, no way to return to Kanto or Johto, minimal time-based events, and an overall similar structure to [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Generation I]] led many a fan to think RS was a franchise reboot, and said fans were not happy. |
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** Though in hindsight, so many missing 'mons should have [[Fridge Brilliance|tipped people off that there would be Gen.1 remakes]]. How likely is it that they'd do ''that many'' [[Scrappy Mechanic|event Pokémon]]? |
** Though in hindsight, so many missing 'mons should have [[Fridge Brilliance|tipped people off that there would be Gen.1 remakes]]. How likely is it that they'd do ''that many'' [[Scrappy Mechanic|event Pokémon]]? |
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* [[That One Boss]]: Tate and Liza in ''Emerald'' really step up their game thanks to not being stuck exclusively with Lunatone and Solrock. In fact, their new strategy makes Surfing them to death a lot less effective thanks to Sunny Day, Light Screen, and Solarbeam on Solrock to handle your water types. Add in Calm Mind which boosts both Special stats, and you realize that they earned their nickname of the "Murder Twins" handily. |
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* [[That One Boss]]: Tate and Liza in ''Emerald'', Drake and Norman in general. |
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** Norman is ''slightly'' less of a [[That One Boss]] in Emerald, though, since he only has one Slaking, possibly to make up for Tate and Liza. He's still got that other Slaking, though... |
** Norman in general is this, thanks to having TWO Slakings, both of which have ungodly stats and are only stopped from completely flattening your team thanks to their hindering Truant ability. He's ''slightly'' less of a [[That One Boss]] in Emerald, though, since he only has one Slaking, possibly to make up for Tate and Liza. He's still got that other Slaking, though... |
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** Despite being only the second Gym Leader, Brawly can be nasty if you're unprepared. His Makuhita is at level nineteen, four levels higher than Roxanne's ace, and is fought almost directly after her too, making quite the level jump. It's all around nice and bulky, getting even buffer and bulkier thanks to Bulk Up. Get ready to be manhandled by this little fat bastard over and over again, even with a decent flying type on your hands. |
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** Wattson is even worse, ''especially'' in Emerald thanks to having access to not one, but two Pokémon that are fully evolved earlier than they should be. His Voltorb has access to Self-Destruct (Which is an almost guaranteed one-hit KO this early in the game), his Magneton resists almost everything you throw at it, and his Manectric is powerful in general. And to make things worse, his Pokémon's signature move is Shockwave, meaning all of them are capable of nailing you with a decently powerful STAB move that ''never misses'' early in the game. And to make things worse, if you didn't start with Mudkip (gains a ground type upon evolving, making the nightmarish Wattson a pathetic joke)? Better hope you picked up a Geodude at Dewford, because that's the ''only'' other Ground type you'll have at this point! |
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** Flannery is also pretty bad, but downright ''nasty'' in Emerald. Her Torkoal is ridiculously bulky at this point in the game, hits frighteningly hard with Overheat (a ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY BASE POWER FIRE ATTACK, and that's not even factoring in STAB!), Attract to make to where your male Pokémon will have a hard time (Or more accurately, never) attacking, Body Slam to likely (or always) paralyze them, and Sunny Day to weaken water types. To make things, worse, a lot of Flannery's other Pokémon know support moves like Reflect and Light Screen, meaning that if you don't floor them with one hit, by the time Torkoal comes out, you are ''SCREWED.'' |
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** The last leg of Victory Road, merely inches from the exit, has a surprise (they're [[Behind the Black|hiding under a bridge]]) encounter with a couple of Ace Trainers. They both have Slaking, and the female also has Gardevoir, which has ''Skill Swap'' (one of the skills that can remove Slaking's "moves only every other turn" limiter, Truant, by exchanging abilities; and worse, can pass it to ''you''). Fortunately, you can bypass them, but if it's your first time through, you wouldn't know they were even there until they see you. Good luck. |
** The last leg of Victory Road, merely inches from the exit, has a surprise (they're [[Behind the Black|hiding under a bridge]]) encounter with a couple of Ace Trainers. They both have Slaking, and the female also has Gardevoir, which has ''Skill Swap'' (one of the skills that can remove Slaking's "moves only every other turn" limiter, Truant, by exchanging abilities; and worse, can pass it to ''you''). Fortunately, you can bypass them, but if it's your first time through, you wouldn't know they were even there until they see you. Good luck. |
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*** You can just barely see the tops of their heads if you're paying close attention, so you can talk to them individually to avoid the Skill Swap... But since they both have Slaking, even separately they could still count for this. |
*** You can just barely see the tops of their heads if you're paying close attention, so you can talk to them individually to avoid the Skill Swap... But since they both have Slaking, even separately they could still count for this. |
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* [[That One Level]]: |
* [[That One Level]]: |
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** The Sky Pillar. Anyone who doesn't have good finger-reflexes and control over the Mach Bike is going to pull their hair out ''trying to get to'' Rayquaza, let alone catching the bastard. The good news is if you do catch him, the trip down is trivial since falling down is probably what you've been doing in the pillar. |
** The Sky Pillar. Anyone who doesn't have good finger-reflexes and control over the Mach Bike is going to pull their hair out ''trying to get to'' Rayquaza, let alone catching the bastard. The good news is if you do catch him, the trip down is trivial since falling down is probably what you've been doing in the pillar. Thankfully, it's ''so'' much less of a hassle in Emerald... though the Mirage Tower takes it's place as infuriatingly annoying to navigate. |
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*** Or just Fly away, since you are [[Fridge Brilliance|at the roof of the SKY Pillar]]. |
*** Or just Fly away, since you are [[Fridge Brilliance|at the roof of the SKY Pillar]]. |
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** Traversing the ocean is also considered one of the worst parts in all of the main games. On the other hand, the [[Under the Sea]] segments are considered some of the most memorable parts, very likely because one can only encounter wild Pokémon if one travels in seaweed. As a result, some people use Dive [[Mundane Utility|in order to avoid encounters when surfing]]. |
** Traversing the ocean is also considered one of the worst parts in all of the main games. On the other hand, the [[Under the Sea]] segments are considered some of the most memorable parts, very likely because one can only encounter wild Pokémon if one travels in seaweed. As a result, some people use Dive [[Mundane Utility|in order to avoid encounters when surfing]]. |