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** Nanami's Egg episode... the whole thing.
** Nanami's Egg episode... the whole thing.
* [[Older Than They Think]]: ''Utena'' makes heavy use of tropes and visual elements from classic shoujo series such as ''[[Rose of Versailles]]'', most of which were not familiar to American audiences before the popularity of this series.
* [[Older Than They Think]]: ''Utena'' makes heavy use of tropes and visual elements from classic shoujo series such as ''[[Rose of Versailles]]'', most of which were not familiar to American audiences before the popularity of this series.
* [[Real Women Never Wear Dresses]]: Both in the fandom and Deconstructed in the series. Some people hate Anthy because she's a weak, outwardly emotionless doll who claims to have no opinions outside of the Victor's whims. Others hate Anthy because they think she's ''too'' powerful and manipulative and evil. And some just hate her because she gets to sleep with Akio, and they don't. Interestingly, all the kinds of Anthy-haters in the fandom are present in the story: Saionji hates her because he thinks she's not obedient enough. (Well, he loves her too, but beats her often enough to make ya wonder.) Juri and Kanae feels threatened both by her [[Extreme Doormat]] persona ''and'' the fear that she might be more sinister, and several of the Black Rose Duelists envy her for "being loved" and "stealing their love interests". Then there's Akio, who needs to keep "his woman" under his control in order to keep playing the [[Big Bad]] of the show...Ikuhara really knows how society views feminine archetypes, and those views are reflected even in the Utena fandom.
** It's not just the haters; it's her fans too. Some fans, like the characters Miki or at first, Utena, see her as a classic [[Damsel in Distress]] archetype for them to rescue/defend on the forums in order to boost their own egos. However, it should be noted that people who view Anthy as such are much rarer than the Anthy-Is-Satan-Fan, because the series does eventually make clear that Anthy is most definitely not an emotionless doll.
* [[The Scrappy]]: Shiori is easily one of the most hated characters in the fandom, to the point where even ''members of staff'' disliked her. Nanami is also rather unpopular in her own right. Ironically, they're two of Ikuhara's personal favourites.
* [[The Scrappy]]: Shiori is easily one of the most hated characters in the fandom, to the point where even ''members of staff'' disliked her. Nanami is also rather unpopular in her own right. Ironically, they're two of Ikuhara's personal favourites.
** [[Rescued from the Scrappy Heap]]: Many end up [[Jerkass Woobie|pitying Nanami too much]] to hate her anymore by episodes 31 and 32.
** [[Rescued from the Scrappy Heap]]: Many end up [[Jerkass Woobie|pitying Nanami too much]] to hate her anymore by episodes 31 and 32.