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** The very way the royal kids are raised is detrimental to their sanity.
** The very way the royal kids are raised is detrimental to their sanity.
* Environmental - Some X-factor specific to the royal family's home location, diet, or environment.
* Environmental - Some X-factor specific to the royal family's home location, diet, or environment.
** Heavy metal poisoning, especially lead. Seriously; it's a fashion at the moment for [[Adventurer Archaeologist|forensic archaeologists]] to imply this as the cause of most of the [[Truth in Television|real world cases]] of mad monarchs 1500-1815.
** Heavy metal poisoning, especially lead. Seriously; it's a fashion at the moment for [[Adventurer Archaeologist|forensic archaeologists]] to imply this as the cause of most of the [[Truth in Television|real world cases]] of mad monarchs 1500-1815.
** Disease. Specifically, syphilis; it's an STD, so it would get passed around the court, it causes madness if untreated, and the treatment wasn't discovered until the 20th century: [[wikipedia:Arsphenamine|Salvarsan]].
** Disease. Specifically, syphilis; it's an STD, so it would get passed around the court, it causes madness if untreated, and the treatment wasn't discovered until the 20th century: [[wikipedia:Arsphenamine|Salvarsan]].
** A mysterious food, drink or drug reserved for royal use, with side effects.
** A mysterious food, drink or drug reserved for royal use, with side effects.
* They're Just Nuts: anything not covered by the above.
* They're Just Nuts: anything not covered by the above.


Whatever the reason, your rulers are bonkers, at least as far as objective outside observers are concerned.
Whatever the reason, your rulers are bonkers, at least as far as objective outside observers are concerned.


Note that royal/imperial insanity is [[Truth in Television]] often enough that it can be a bit frightening.
Note that royal/imperial insanity is [[Truth in Television]] often enough that it can be a bit frightening.
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** Serg's son Gregor inherited the throne at age five when Ezar died, and, remarkably, grew up sane and stable thanks mostly to his adoptive parents, [[Cincinnatus|Aral Vorkosigan]] and [[Warrior Therapist|Cordelia Naismith Vorkosigan]]. But Gregor became so paranoid about the genetic insanity in his family line that he refused to consider marrying anyone even ''distantly'' related to him. Since that equated to all the nobility on the planet, there was no clear line of succession, and Gregor's death would have caused a massive and probably final civil war...this posed a bit of a problem.
** Serg's son Gregor inherited the throne at age five when Ezar died, and, remarkably, grew up sane and stable thanks mostly to his adoptive parents, [[Cincinnatus|Aral Vorkosigan]] and [[Warrior Therapist|Cordelia Naismith Vorkosigan]]. But Gregor became so paranoid about the genetic insanity in his family line that he refused to consider marrying anyone even ''distantly'' related to him. Since that equated to all the nobility on the planet, there was no clear line of succession, and Gregor's death would have caused a massive and probably final civil war...this posed a bit of a problem.
*** Fortunately Barrayar has recently gotten a handle on genetic engineering, eased up on the social stratification, and annexed another planet with its own unrelated set of merchant nobility (one of whom Gregor eventually married), so that nasty strain of ''[[Canis Latinicus|nutjobbus maximus]]'' is likely to be cleansed from the line in the future. Much to the relief of Gregor, Aral, Cordelia, and every planet anywhere near Barrayar.
*** Fortunately Barrayar has recently gotten a handle on genetic engineering, eased up on the social stratification, and annexed another planet with its own unrelated set of merchant nobility (one of whom Gregor eventually married), so that nasty strain of ''[[Canis Latinicus|nutjobbus maximus]]'' is likely to be cleansed from the line in the future. Much to the relief of Gregor, Aral, Cordelia, and every planet anywhere near Barrayar.
** Cursed royalty also appears in Bujold's ''[[Chalion]]'' books (she seems to like the trope.) The main curse of madness/unluck/sterility/whatever-is-least-convinient in ''The Curse of Chalion'' is particularly nasty, in that it automatically spreads to anyone who marries into the family, making it completely impossible to eradicate without, as it turns out, direct intervention from the local gods. And then there's that strange familial wolf-madness thing in ''The Hallowed Hunt'', too.
** Cursed royalty also appears in Bujold's ''[[Chalion]]'' books (she seems to like the trope.) The main curse of madness/unluck/sterility/whatever-is-least-convinient in ''The Curse of Chalion'' is particularly nasty, in that it automatically spreads to anyone who marries into the family, making it completely impossible to eradicate without, as it turns out, direct intervention from the local gods. And then there's that strange familial wolf-madness thing in ''The Hallowed Hunt'', too.
*** The unlucky king Orico tried to short-circuit this by {{spoiler|trying to get his wife pregnant by his chancellor, as any child of theirs would not be descended of the royal line. It didn't work, partly because Sara was entirely barren,}} but it probably wouldn't have worked anyway as the gods seemed pretty certain that you could not get out of this curse by clever trickery. It took a miracle.
*** The unlucky king Orico tried to short-circuit this by {{spoiler|trying to get his wife pregnant by his chancellor, as any child of theirs would not be descended of the royal line. It didn't work, partly because Sara was entirely barren,}} but it probably wouldn't have worked anyway as the gods seemed pretty certain that you could not get out of this curse by clever trickery. It took a miracle.
* Present in [[David Eddings]]' ''[[Belgariad]]'', in the form of the royal line of Cthol Murgos, the Urgas family, with its hereditary insanity. In sequel series ''[[The Mallorean]]'', the eventual successor to the throne is more or less sane, which makes sense, given that he's {{spoiler|not actually the son of the crazy late king, but instead the product of a brief affair between one of the king's wives and a foreign diplomat.}} That's one effective way to get the crazy genes out of the royal line.
* Present in [[David Eddings]]' ''[[Belgariad]]'', in the form of the royal line of Cthol Murgos, the Urgas family, with its hereditary insanity. In sequel series ''[[The Mallorean]]'', the eventual successor to the throne is more or less sane, which makes sense, given that he's {{spoiler|not actually the son of the crazy late king, but instead the product of a brief affair between one of the king's wives and a foreign diplomat.}} That's one effective way to get the crazy genes out of the royal line.
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* The first two of Mervyn Peake's ''[[Gormenghast]]'' books are, among other things, a long examination of this trope - the Groan lineage and their staff are a bunch of depressed lunatics, their spirits both crushed and perversely sustained by the castle and its ancient, messed-up rituals. They are a sympathetic bunch though - the melancholy and bookish Lord [[Meaningful Name|Sepulchrave]] and his unloved, [[Cloudcuckoolander]] daughter [[The Ophelia|Fuchsia]] must surely be among the most tragic literary [[Woobie|woobies]] of the last century.
* The first two of Mervyn Peake's ''[[Gormenghast]]'' books are, among other things, a long examination of this trope - the Groan lineage and their staff are a bunch of depressed lunatics, their spirits both crushed and perversely sustained by the castle and its ancient, messed-up rituals. They are a sympathetic bunch though - the melancholy and bookish Lord [[Meaningful Name|Sepulchrave]] and his unloved, [[Cloudcuckoolander]] daughter [[The Ophelia|Fuchsia]] must surely be among the most tragic literary [[Woobie|woobies]] of the last century.
* Averted in some ''[[Discworld]]'' novels. Arguably, rulers of the city of Ankh-Morpork in the Discworld have had a tendency to be raving psychopaths. This applied when the city was ruled by kings, and was still true afterward when the kings were killed and replaced by the Patricians. By some stroke of astounding good fortune, the city is currently possessed of a Patrician, Vetinari, who is remarkably sane; as insurance, the rightful heir to the line of kings is also hanging around the city, and he too is remarkably sane, for certain values of sanity. How that happened is anyone's guess, as Ankh-Morpork is a thoroughly crazy city and tends to produce various types of craziness in anyone who lives there too long. Most of the citizens get used to it, though.
* Averted in some ''[[Discworld]]'' novels. Arguably, rulers of the city of Ankh-Morpork in the Discworld have had a tendency to be raving psychopaths. This applied when the city was ruled by kings, and was still true afterward when the kings were killed and replaced by the Patricians. By some stroke of astounding good fortune, the city is currently possessed of a Patrician, Vetinari, who is remarkably sane; as insurance, the rightful heir to the line of kings is also hanging around the city, and he too is remarkably sane, for certain values of sanity. How that happened is anyone's guess, as Ankh-Morpork is a thoroughly crazy city and tends to produce various types of craziness in anyone who lives there too long. Most of the citizens get used to it, though.
** ''[[Discworld/Interesting Times|Interesting Times]]'' plays this fairly straight with the Emperor and Lord Hong. While the former's insanity is suggested to have a dash of genetic inbreeding behind it, the book hints that breeding the most paranoid, heartless, and evil bastards intentionally, and then not telling them cruelty is bad, may have been more of a problem.
** ''[[Discworld/Interesting Times|Interesting Times]]'' plays this fairly straight with the Emperor and Lord Hong. While the former's insanity is suggested to have a dash of genetic inbreeding behind it, the book hints that breeding the most paranoid, heartless, and evil bastards intentionally, and then not telling them cruelty is bad, may have been more of a problem.
** Vetinari might seem to be more accurately described as ''effective.'' rather than ''sane,'' but ''The Discworld Companion'' describes Vetinati as "very, very sane". It is worth considering, however, that Jeremy Clockson and Sane Alex are ''also'' sane. Sanity and "normality" are not synonymous, and may be mutually exclusive.
** Vetinari might seem to be more accurately described as ''effective.'' rather than ''sane,'' but ''The Discworld Companion'' describes Vetinati as "very, very sane". It is worth considering, however, that Jeremy Clockson and Sane Alex are ''also'' sane. Sanity and "normality" are not synonymous, and may be mutually exclusive.
*** In ''[[Discworld/Thief of Time|Thief of Time]]'', someone mentioned sanity was 'defined by the majority'. Given how the majority of ''Ankh-Morpork'' act...
*** In ''[[Discworld/Thief of Time|Thief of Time]]'', someone mentioned sanity was 'defined by the majority'. Given how the majority of ''Ankh-Morpork'' act...
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* In the ''[[Tortall Universe|Tortall]]'' books by [[Tamora Pierce]], the Copper Isles royalty tend to have madness crop up now and then, including one Princess Josiane. A character phrases it thus: "There's bad blood in the Copper Isles kings. They birth a mad one every generation. Josiane's uncle is locked in a tower somewhere. It comes from being an island kingdom- too much inbreeding." It turns out in further novels that it may not be just one per generation...
* In the ''[[Tortall Universe|Tortall]]'' books by [[Tamora Pierce]], the Copper Isles royalty tend to have madness crop up now and then, including one Princess Josiane. A character phrases it thus: "There's bad blood in the Copper Isles kings. They birth a mad one every generation. Josiane's uncle is locked in a tower somewhere. It comes from being an island kingdom- too much inbreeding." It turns out in further novels that it may not be just one per generation...
** Two per generation, as of the Trickster books. The old king who dies and prompts the [[Succession Crisis]] and his brother who was mentioned as locked in a tower somewhere, and Josiane and Imajane among the old king's kids.
** Two per generation, as of the Trickster books. The old king who dies and prompts the [[Succession Crisis]] and his brother who was mentioned as locked in a tower somewhere, and Josiane and Imajane among the old king's kids.
** The Jimajen line might also have bits of this, though we only see two members: Rubinyan, whose only major flaws are an overdeveloped sense of honor and an inability to control his insane wife; and Bronau, who is extremely egotistical and ambitious without much common sense to go with it. Big brother is also ambitious as hell, but much more sensible...
** The Jimajen line might also have bits of this, though we only see two members: Rubinyan, whose only major flaws are an overdeveloped sense of honor and an inability to control his insane wife; and Bronau, who is extremely egotistical and ambitious without much common sense to go with it. Big brother is also ambitious as hell, but much more sensible...
** Emperor Ozorne of Carthak and that cousin of the Tusaine line who starts the Tusaine-Tortall war in the second Song of the Lioness book both count.
** Emperor Ozorne of Carthak and that cousin of the Tusaine line who starts the Tusaine-Tortall war in the second Song of the Lioness book both count.
** Duke Roger, nephew to King Roald in the Song of the Lioness quartet, wasn't insane to begin with, but coming back from the dead (or not, precisely, if you believe him) certainly screwed with his head.
** Duke Roger, nephew to King Roald in the Song of the Lioness quartet, wasn't insane to begin with, but coming back from the dead (or not, precisely, if you believe him) certainly screwed with his head.
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* The Civil Government of the planet Bellevue in [[The General]] Series is [[Royally Screwed-Up]] in that both the current governor and his acknowledged heir are borderline clinical paranoids, and becoming less borderline all the time...
* The Civil Government of the planet Bellevue in [[The General]] Series is [[Royally Screwed-Up]] in that both the current governor and his acknowledged heir are borderline clinical paranoids, and becoming less borderline all the time...
* The Ancient and Most Noble House of Black from ''[[Harry Potter]]''. It has a long reputation for its members being insane, lots of inbreeding and are pureblood (what many consider royalty in the Potterverse). This also applies to most pureblood wizarding families in general (with a few exceptions)... who have, incidentally, all probably intermarried with the Blacks.
* The Ancient and Most Noble House of Black from ''[[Harry Potter]]''. It has a long reputation for its members being insane, lots of inbreeding and are pureblood (what many consider royalty in the Potterverse). This also applies to most pureblood wizarding families in general (with a few exceptions)... who have, incidentally, all probably intermarried with the Blacks.
** The Gaunts are even ''more'' messed up, and possibly more inbred, since Dumbledore mentions that they're the only descendants of Salazar Slytherin left. Ironically, their worst member comes when they finally manage to get some new blood: [[Big Bad|Lord Voldemort]], the son of Merope Gaunt [[Boomerang Bigot|and a Muggle]].
** The Gaunts are even ''more'' messed up, and possibly more inbred, since Dumbledore mentions that they're the only descendants of Salazar Slytherin left. Ironically, their worst member comes when they finally manage to get some new blood: [[Big Bad|Lord Voldemort]], the son of Merope Gaunt [[Boomerang Bigot|and a Muggle]].
* The Raiths in ''[[The Dresden Files]]'', the royal family of the [[Emotion Eater|White Court]] of vampires. The White King is a [[Complete Monster]] who [[Moral Event Horizon|rapes his female children into supernatural slavery]] and [[Offing the Offspring|kills off his sons]]. His daughter Lara is a [[Magnificent Bastard]] who lives on the line between [[Heroic Sociopath]] and [[Friendly Enemy]] [[Anti-Villain]]. The only reason his son Thomas lived to adulthood is by playing the [[Rich Idiot With No Day Job]] card for everything it's worth. The only one who doesn't appear to be incredibly messed-up is {{spoiler|Inari Raith, who never became a full-on succubus because she [[The Power of Love|fell in love]] and Lara helped her get away}}.
* The Raiths in ''[[The Dresden Files]]'', the royal family of the [[Emotion Eater|White Court]] of vampires. The White King is a [[Complete Monster]] who [[Moral Event Horizon|rapes his female children into supernatural slavery]] and [[Offing the Offspring|kills off his sons]]. His daughter Lara is a [[Magnificent Bastard]] who lives on the line between [[Heroic Sociopath]] and [[Friendly Enemy]] [[Anti-Villain]]. The only reason his son Thomas lived to adulthood is by playing the [[Rich Idiot With No Day Job]] card for everything it's worth. The only one who doesn't appear to be incredibly messed-up is {{spoiler|Inari Raith, who never became a full-on succubus because she [[The Power of Love|fell in love]] and Lara helped her get away}}.
* In ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', the first king of the Noldor, Finwe, is a good man, but after his death, the crown goes to his eldest son Feanor, who was very paranoid before, and became completely crazy (if still very charismatic) when his father was murdered. Once Feanor is also dead, his son Maedhros should become king...but he averts this trope: knowing how dangerous the Oath he and his brothers have sworn is, he abdicates and lets his uncle rule. It's a wise move: the sons of Feanor do commit some horrendous acts, and the two eldest eventually become insane, but at least they only rule a fraction of the Noldor.
* In ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', the first king of the Noldor, Finwe, is a good man, but after his death, the crown goes to his eldest son Feanor, who was very paranoid before, and became completely crazy (if still very charismatic) when his father was murdered. Once Feanor is also dead, his son Maedhros should become king...but he averts this trope: knowing how dangerous the Oath he and his brothers have sworn is, he abdicates and lets his uncle rule. It's a wise move: the sons of Feanor do commit some horrendous acts, and the two eldest eventually become insane, but at least they only rule a fraction of the Noldor.
* [[The Bible]] is chock full of lousy or downright ax crazy evil kings of Israel who choose to snub the God who saved their ancestors from Egypt, so much so that the good kings are the exception.
* [[The Bible]] is chock full of lousy or downright ax crazy evil kings of Israel who choose to snub the God who saved their ancestors from Egypt, so much so that the good kings are the exception.
** And even the good kings still tend to be royally screwed up. Witness David, whose punishment for committing adultery with Bathsheba and [[The Uriah Gambit|having her husband killed]] was that his first son by her fell ill and died a week later, and the rest of the sons started killing each other for various reasons. David ultimately appoints Solomon as his successor, and even then the succession crisis doesn't end. Solomon was also messed up in his own right on account of his [[Love Ruins the Realm|harem of foreign wives.]]
** And even the good kings still tend to be royally screwed up. Witness David, whose punishment for committing adultery with Bathsheba and [[The Uriah Gambit|having her husband killed]] was that his first son by her fell ill and died a week later, and the rest of the sons started killing each other for various reasons. David ultimately appoints Solomon as his successor, and even then the succession crisis doesn't end. Solomon was also messed up in his own right on account of his [[Love Ruins the Realm|harem of foreign wives.]]
* Averted in the ''[[Heralds of Valdemar]]'' series, in part because Valdemaran law forbids a monarch (or, presumably, heir) from marrying anyone within two degrees of kinship. And the newly-crowned Selenay plays it to the hilt to keep her councilors from forcing her into marriage, too. The requirement that all monarchs must be [[Incorruptible Pure Pureness|Heralds]] is probably more important -- there's nothing saying a Herald can't be a bit nuts (Hi, Lavan and Vanyel!), but at least it's the type of nuts that doesn't result in the abuses seen on the rest of this page.
* Averted in the ''[[Heralds of Valdemar]]'' series, in part because Valdemaran law forbids a monarch (or, presumably, heir) from marrying anyone within two degrees of kinship. And the newly-crowned Selenay plays it to the hilt to keep her councilors from forcing her into marriage, too. The requirement that all monarchs must be [[Incorruptible Pure Pureness|Heralds]] is probably more important -- there's nothing saying a Herald can't be a bit nuts (Hi, Lavan and Vanyel!), but at least it's the type of nuts that doesn't result in the abuses seen on the rest of this page.
* King Rodric IV in ''[[The Riftwar Cycle]]''. Hated and abused by his father for being a sickly runt, he proved to be as sick in mind as he was in body. Apart from using openly about how his power would allow him to randomly pick out random people and have them executed for no reason other than he wished to see them die, he squandred much of the tax revenues of The Kingdom Of The Isles on a series of aesthetic public works programs designed merely to make the city of Rillanon look prettier. Worse still, he denied vital military aid to the Western half of his Kingdom, fearing that the soldiers would be used to build an army against him, which helped to drag the first Riftwar out for the better part of a decade.
* King Rodric IV in ''[[The Riftwar Cycle]]''. Hated and abused by his father for being a sickly runt, he proved to be as sick in mind as he was in body. Apart from using openly about how his power would allow him to randomly pick out random people and have them executed for no reason other than he wished to see them die, he squandred much of the tax revenues of The Kingdom Of The Isles on a series of aesthetic public works programs designed merely to make the city of Rillanon look prettier. Worse still, he denied vital military aid to the Western half of his Kingdom, fearing that the soldiers would be used to build an army against him, which helped to drag the first Riftwar out for the better part of a decade.
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** But merely because Queen Victoria had been scratched by the werewolf at Torchwood manor and infected by an alien blood parasite that used human bodies as hosts.
** But merely because Queen Victoria had been scratched by the werewolf at Torchwood manor and infected by an alien blood parasite that used human bodies as hosts.
* Referenced in the ''[[Red Dwarf]]'' episode ''Rimmerworld''. Kryten explains the problem of having an entire society descended from Rimmer {{spoiler|and his clones}} by drawing comparisons with European monarchies of the 19th and 20th centuries. The actual leader of the planet seems to be an example himself.
* Referenced in the ''[[Red Dwarf]]'' episode ''Rimmerworld''. Kryten explains the problem of having an entire society descended from Rimmer {{spoiler|and his clones}} by drawing comparisons with European monarchies of the 19th and 20th centuries. The actual leader of the planet seems to be an example himself.
* A lot of tension surrounding the [[Succession Crisis]] in ''[[Merlin (TV series)|Merlin]]'' is based on this trope. It's revealed in series three that the Pendragon men have a history of mental illness, one which King Uther ultimately succumbs to after his {{spoiler|arguably [[Axe Crazy]] illigitimate daughter}} betrays him and takes the throne.
* A lot of tension surrounding the [[Succession Crisis]] in ''[[Merlin (TV series)|Merlin]]'' is based on this trope. It's revealed in series three that the Pendragon men have a history of mental illness, one which King Uther ultimately succumbs to after his {{spoiler|arguably [[Axe Crazy]] illigitimate daughter}} betrays him and takes the throne.




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** Also, the Steiner dynasty of the Lyran Commonwealth has a genetic predisposition to a few psychological conditions. They never get to the truly batshit level of insanity, but they have been known to do substantial damage to their nation.
** Also, the Steiner dynasty of the Lyran Commonwealth has a genetic predisposition to a few psychological conditions. They never get to the truly batshit level of insanity, but they have been known to do substantial damage to their nation.
** It's applied to each of the five major factions at some point. Perhaps the most notorious version in-universe is Jinjiro Kurita, who ordered his troops to kill 52 million people on a world where his father was killed by a sniper.
** It's applied to each of the five major factions at some point. Perhaps the most notorious version in-universe is Jinjiro Kurita, who ordered his troops to kill 52 million people on a world where his father was killed by a sniper.
* The House of Naelax, rulers of the Great Kingdom of Aerdy in the ''[[Greyhawk]]'' setting, were commonly viewed as being possessed by demons. [http://www.canonfire.com/cfhtml/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=528 This article], although written by a fan for his own campaign, is nonetheless a good summary of what the Ivid Overkings were like.
* The House of Naelax, rulers of the Great Kingdom of Aerdy in the ''[[Greyhawk]]'' setting, were commonly viewed as being possessed by demons. [http://www.canonfire.com/cfhtml/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=528 This article], although written by a fan for his own campaign, is nonetheless a good summary of what the Ivid Overkings were like.




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** The House of Heterodyne, of which Agatha is the only known living member, deserves special mention. For generations, they were the most insane and dangerous maniacs that the world had ever known, and also some of the strongest Sparks. The previous generation, Agatha's father and uncle, are an exception, having used their brilliant insanity for good; but according to one observer, the [[The Igor|people of her hometown]] would accept a crazy Heterodyne as legitimate:
** The House of Heterodyne, of which Agatha is the only known living member, deserves special mention. For generations, they were the most insane and dangerous maniacs that the world had ever known, and also some of the strongest Sparks. The previous generation, Agatha's father and uncle, are an exception, having used their brilliant insanity for good; but according to one observer, the [[The Igor|people of her hometown]] would accept a crazy Heterodyne as legitimate:
{{quote|'''Vole''': De pipple of Mechanicsburg would '''not''' ekcept dot [killing Castle Heterodyne] as proof dot she iz a Heterodyne...not unless she danced nekked though de ruins vile trying to shoot down de moon--turned all de tourists into monsters--and den built a very dangerous fountain out of sausages.}}
{{quote|'''Vole''': De pipple of Mechanicsburg would '''not''' ekcept dot [killing Castle Heterodyne] as proof dot she iz a Heterodyne...not unless she danced nekked though de ruins vile trying to shoot down de moon--turned all de tourists into monsters--and den built a very dangerous fountain out of sausages.}}
** Add in the fact that the Hetrodynes were the ones who created the Jagers (think [[WW 1]] Germans fused with Orkz and muppets) and they were plenty messed up too. Basicly, the Hetrodynes bred right past crazy and back around to normal.
** Add in the fact that the Hetrodynes were the ones who created the Jagers (think [[WW 1]] Germans fused with Orkz and muppets) and they were plenty messed up too. Basicly, the Hetrodynes bred right past crazy and back around to normal.
** Add to this the House Sturmvoraus, apparently affected with an inborn [[Chronic Backstabbing Disorder]], and a Prince in love with [[Big Bad|The Other]].
** Add to this the House Sturmvoraus, apparently affected with an inborn [[Chronic Backstabbing Disorder]], and a Prince in love with [[Big Bad|The Other]].
* Princess Sara in ''[[8-Bit Theater (Webcomic)|8-Bit Theater]]'' is smart, sexy, and sane enough to fully realize her father is a [[Cloudcuckoolander]] with genocidal tendencies. Naturally, she doesn't hold much stock in hereditary rule. She's still a rude, shrewish sociopath, though, and engineered her own kidnapping.
* Princess Sara in ''[[8-Bit Theater (Webcomic)|8-Bit Theater]]'' is smart, sexy, and sane enough to fully realize her father is a [[Cloudcuckoolander]] with genocidal tendencies. Naturally, she doesn't hold much stock in hereditary rule. She's still a rude, shrewish sociopath, though, and engineered her own kidnapping.
** How bad it is: No matter what horrible evils she unleashes on the populace when she comes into power, it will look like a golden age compared to the completely ruinous and unhinged chain of decisions King Steve makes every day, simply because she's not enough of an idiot to be capable of the same levels of casual destruction.
** How bad it is: No matter what horrible evils she unleashes on the populace when she comes into power, it will look like a golden age compared to the completely ruinous and unhinged chain of decisions King Steve makes every day, simply because she's not enough of an idiot to be capable of the same levels of casual destruction.
* The Masters Royal Family of [http://chesspiece.smackjeeves.com Chess Piece] are said to be cursed. Luckily, it skipped a generation. Unluckily, the current Prince has seriously planned on ''taking over the world'' since he was ''four''.
* The Masters Royal Family of [http://chesspiece.smackjeeves.com Chess Piece] are said to be cursed. Luckily, it skipped a generation. Unluckily, the current Prince has seriously planned on ''taking over the world'' since he was ''four''.
* In ''[[Homestuck]]'', the Highbloods [[Fantastic Racism|(high-ranking members of the troll caste system)]] seem to be innately prone to psychotic behavior. [[Crapsack World|(Well, more so than the rest of the species.)]] The highest bloodtype; the Imperial, or Tyrian line, boasts [[God Save Us From the Queen|Her Imperious Condescension]], a millenia-old tyrant known for her cruelty and fickleness. (Interestingly, her [[Generation Xerox|descendant]] Feferi seems to be much more benevolent, making this part a possible subversion.) There's also the Grand Highblood, a warlord who often killed and mangled people [[For the Evulz|for the hell of it]], and {{spoiler|his descendant Gamzee, who eventually snaps and [[Axe Crazy|brutally murders two of his friends]] over the course of the story.}} Equius, a noble-ranking blueblood, has some [[Berserk Button|peculiar anger management issues]] and pretty much states up front that highbloods are just genetically predisposed to violence and psychosis.
* In ''[[Homestuck]]'', the Highbloods [[Fantastic Racism|(high-ranking members of the troll caste system)]] seem to be innately prone to psychotic behavior. [[Crapsack World|(Well, more so than the rest of the species.)]] The highest bloodtype; the Imperial, or Tyrian line, boasts [[God Save Us From the Queen|Her Imperious Condescension]], a millenia-old tyrant known for her cruelty and fickleness. (Interestingly, her [[Generation Xerox|descendant]] Feferi seems to be much more benevolent, making this part a possible subversion.) There's also the Grand Highblood, a warlord who often killed and mangled people [[For the Evulz|for the hell of it]], and {{spoiler|his descendant Gamzee, who eventually snaps and [[Axe Crazy|brutally murders two of his friends]] over the course of the story.}} Equius, a noble-ranking blueblood, has some [[Berserk Button|peculiar anger management issues]] and pretty much states up front that highbloods are just genetically predisposed to violence and psychosis.




== Web Original ==
== Web Original ==
* [[Not Blood Siblings|Zeus and Hera]] and their children in ''[[Thalias Musings]]'', ranging from good but troubled (Apollo and Artemis) to flat-out crazy (Eris).
* [[Not Blood Siblings|Zeus and Hera]] and their children in ''[[Thalias Musings]]'', ranging from good but troubled (Apollo and Artemis) to flat-out crazy (Eris).




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* Henry VI had some kind of mental illness which left him near-catatonic for long periods. It may have been inherited from the French royals; Henry's French grandfather, Charles VI, was also mentally ill, sometimes claiming to be made of glass. Charles's madness led to a civil war, and a English invasion - Agincourt and Joan of Arc; Henry's madness led to the War of the Roses - two wars which effectively purged the royal lines of madness. This shows that occasionally Real Life can be more sensible than fiction: most medieval kings had to be competent, or they got removed.
* Henry VI had some kind of mental illness which left him near-catatonic for long periods. It may have been inherited from the French royals; Henry's French grandfather, Charles VI, was also mentally ill, sometimes claiming to be made of glass. Charles's madness led to a civil war, and a English invasion - Agincourt and Joan of Arc; Henry's madness led to the War of the Roses - two wars which effectively purged the royal lines of madness. This shows that occasionally Real Life can be more sensible than fiction: most medieval kings had to be competent, or they got removed.
** Much later there was George III, of the "talking-to-a-tree-because-he-thought-it-was-the-king-of-Prussia" style of crazy, but that was an isolated incident. His son, George IV, had to rule as regent for years while they waited for him to die. (These are the Georges that turn up in the ''[[Blackadder]] season 3'' finale, incidentally.)
** Much later there was George III, of the "talking-to-a-tree-because-he-thought-it-was-the-king-of-Prussia" style of crazy, but that was an isolated incident. His son, George IV, had to rule as regent for years while they waited for him to die. (These are the Georges that turn up in the ''[[Blackadder]] season 3'' finale, incidentally.)
*** George III only developed madness in later life - earlier in life he was charming, handsome and reasonable well-adjusted. Recent theories suggest that this may have been due to a genetic condition called porphyria that is hereditary, it just tends to skip several generations without manifesting. May have entered the British Royal Family from the Scottish line James I and VI who may have inherited it from his mother [[Mary of Scotland|Mary, Queen of Scots]]. Mary, James and George are just the only reigning monarchs to suffer, all the other possible instances just cropped up in branch lines.
*** George III only developed madness in later life - earlier in life he was charming, handsome and reasonable well-adjusted. Recent theories suggest that this may have been due to a genetic condition called porphyria that is hereditary, it just tends to skip several generations without manifesting. May have entered the British Royal Family from the Scottish line James I and VI who may have inherited it from his mother [[Mary of Scotland|Mary, Queen of Scots]]. Mary, James and George are just the only reigning monarchs to suffer, all the other possible instances just cropped up in branch lines.
*** Skeptics of the theory that George III inherited porphyria from either Mary and James have pointed out that that there is as yet no evidence of porphyria in the intervening generations of Elizabeth, Queen of Bohemia; Sophia, Electress of Hanover; George I; George II; and Frederick, Prince of Wales. Certainly neither Mary nor James displayed any signs of madness. In any case, George III's doctors tried to cure his madness by giving him mercury ("It works on syphilis, maybe it'll cure this too..."), which obviously didn't help.
*** Skeptics of the theory that George III inherited porphyria from either Mary and James have pointed out that that there is as yet no evidence of porphyria in the intervening generations of Elizabeth, Queen of Bohemia; Sophia, Electress of Hanover; George I; George II; and Frederick, Prince of Wales. Certainly neither Mary nor James displayed any signs of madness. In any case, George III's doctors tried to cure his madness by giving him mercury ("It works on syphilis, maybe it'll cure this too..."), which obviously didn't help.
** Henry VIII started out as a good king, but became more and more cruel and egotistical as he got older (as many of his wives discovered). Theories differ on why, but illness, a sports career ending injury, and [[Heir Club for Men|the lack of a backup male heir]] have all been put forward as helping him along the path from arrogant and short-tempered to paranoid megalomaniac.
** Henry VIII started out as a good king, but became more and more cruel and egotistical as he got older (as many of his wives discovered). Theories differ on why, but illness, a sports career ending injury, and [[Heir Club for Men|the lack of a backup male heir]] have all been put forward as helping him along the path from arrogant and short-tempered to paranoid megalomaniac.
* The Habsburgs were inbred even by the standards of European royalty, which might not have been a problem except that their matriarch (Juana de Trastamara aka "Juana La Loca", known in old-timey English sources as "Joan the Mad") became a total basket case after the death of her husband Philip the Handsome (their marriage, fortunately for them and unfortunately for Spain, was [[Perfectly Arranged Marriage|Perfectly Arranged]]); she ended up incarcerated by her own father Ferdinand and, later, her son Carlos I/Charles V, who had to be told to treat his poor mother better ''as a condition to be elected [[Holy Roman Empire|Holy Roman Emperor]]''<ref>Yes, this is ''that'' Charles V. The one who might have been ruler of all Europe (save England and France) had it not been for the emergence of Protestantism. That one.</ref>. Don Carlos, the rebellious son of Philip II, was insane to the point of being physically dangerous and would take swipes at passing servants with a knife. Ferdinand II's favourite occupation was rolling around in the bin. Even the more mentally stable scions of the dynasty tended to feature a massively disfigured lower jaw, often to the point they could not even close their mouth.
* The Habsburgs were inbred even by the standards of European royalty, which might not have been a problem except that their matriarch (Juana de Trastamara aka "Juana La Loca", known in old-timey English sources as "Joan the Mad") became a total basket case after the death of her husband Philip the Handsome (their marriage, fortunately for them and unfortunately for Spain, was [[Perfectly Arranged Marriage|Perfectly Arranged]]); she ended up incarcerated by her own father Ferdinand and, later, her son Carlos I/Charles V, who had to be told to treat his poor mother better ''as a condition to be elected [[Holy Roman Empire|Holy Roman Emperor]]''<ref>Yes, this is ''that'' Charles V. The one who might have been ruler of all Europe (save England and France) had it not been for the emergence of Protestantism. That one.</ref>. Don Carlos, the rebellious son of Philip II, was insane to the point of being physically dangerous and would take swipes at passing servants with a knife. Ferdinand II's favourite occupation was rolling around in the bin. Even the more mentally stable scions of the dynasty tended to feature a massively disfigured lower jaw, often to the point they could not even close their mouth.
** The trope's picture is a portrait of Charles II of Spain, last Habsburg King of Spain--and the art style of that time tended to gloss over any blemishes someone had (much like fashion magazine photos today) so in all likelihood, his looks were even worse. He was physically ''and'' mentally disabled as well as disfigured (he had the "Hapsburg Lip" to such an extent that he could not close his mouth; that's why his tongue poking out). His subjects nicknamed him "The Bewitched". Unsurprisingly, he closed the Habsburg chapter in Spain by not perpetuating his genetic pool, constituted among many other issues by his grandmother being also his aunt. After all, Charles descended from Juana La Loca just 14 times... twice as a great-great-great grandson, and 12 times further. When ''all'' your ancestors are descended from "Joanna the Mad", you're not off to the best genetic start in life.
** The trope's picture is a portrait of Charles II of Spain, last Habsburg King of Spain--and the art style of that time tended to gloss over any blemishes someone had (much like fashion magazine photos today) so in all likelihood, his looks were even worse. He was physically ''and'' mentally disabled as well as disfigured (he had the "Hapsburg Lip" to such an extent that he could not close his mouth; that's why his tongue poking out). His subjects nicknamed him "The Bewitched". Unsurprisingly, he closed the Habsburg chapter in Spain by not perpetuating his genetic pool, constituted among many other issues by his grandmother being also his aunt. After all, Charles descended from Juana La Loca just 14 times... twice as a great-great-great grandson, and 12 times further. When ''all'' your ancestors are descended from "Joanna the Mad", you're not off to the best genetic start in life.
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*** ... By his enemies. To his supporters he was "Peter the Lawful" and it has been pointed out that he was in fact a rather competent administrator and military leader and tolerant of religious minorities as well (he was in particular loved by the Jews). Naturally, being deposed and decapitated by your bastard half-brother will do [[Historical Villain Upgrade|that]] to your memory, even if you also had a penchant for decapitations.
*** ... By his enemies. To his supporters he was "Peter the Lawful" and it has been pointed out that he was in fact a rather competent administrator and military leader and tolerant of religious minorities as well (he was in particular loved by the Jews). Naturally, being deposed and decapitated by your bastard half-brother will do [[Historical Villain Upgrade|that]] to your memory, even if you also had a penchant for decapitations.
*** It was not "the Lawful", but "the Justicier", because he liked applying summary justice (i.e. beheading people), mainly because he was surrounded by traitors.
*** It was not "the Lawful", but "the Justicier", because he liked applying summary justice (i.e. beheading people), mainly because he was surrounded by traitors.
*** The founder of the Trastamara line was in fact Pedro's sane illegitimate half-brother. That didn't keep the unfortunate recessives from popping up in subsequent generations. Somehow the Aragonese and Castilian branches of the Trastamara each managed to produce a sane and competent son and daughter to marry each other and unite Spain, something of a historical and genetic miracle.
*** The founder of the Trastamara line was in fact Pedro's sane illegitimate half-brother. That didn't keep the unfortunate recessives from popping up in subsequent generations. Somehow the Aragonese and Castilian branches of the Trastamara each managed to produce a sane and competent son and daughter to marry each other and unite Spain, something of a historical and genetic miracle.
* Whether or not the Imperial Roman lines count is a matter of much discussion; certainly many of them were raving mad by our standards (particularly, well, [[The Caligula|Caligula]]..) For an entertaining view on how insane things got, check out ''[[I, Claudius]]''. How much of that was due to the Emperors being corrupted by absolute power, or due to outside factors such as real organic illness (Roman plumbing was great in theory but may have resulted in lead poisoning issues in practice), or how many Emperors just seemed paranoid and vicious because that was the only way to survive as a Roman Emperor, is both debatable and debated. In any case, much later in the history of the Roman Empire, due to a lack of male heirs, necessity demanded that the Emperors begin choosing their successors and adopting them, rather than letting random genetics decide who should be in charge. The Roman Empire experienced a century-long period of stability and (relatively) peaceful growth as a result.
* Whether or not the Imperial Roman lines count is a matter of much discussion; certainly many of them were raving mad by our standards (particularly, well, [[The Caligula|Caligula]]..) For an entertaining view on how insane things got, check out ''[[I, Claudius]]''. How much of that was due to the Emperors being corrupted by absolute power, or due to outside factors such as real organic illness (Roman plumbing was great in theory but may have resulted in lead poisoning issues in practice), or how many Emperors just seemed paranoid and vicious because that was the only way to survive as a Roman Emperor, is both debatable and debated. In any case, much later in the history of the Roman Empire, due to a lack of male heirs, necessity demanded that the Emperors begin choosing their successors and adopting them, rather than letting random genetics decide who should be in charge. The Roman Empire experienced a century-long period of stability and (relatively) peaceful growth as a result.
** Then again, we have so few contemporary histories of 1st century Rome that we can't be absolutely sure that what we do have (Tacitus and Suetonius, who lived a century or so later, are our best resources) is accurate. The Romans weren't above [[You Fail History Forever|exaggerating and lying]] to [[Politically-Correct History|prove a moral point]].
** Then again, we have so few contemporary histories of 1st century Rome that we can't be absolutely sure that what we do have (Tacitus and Suetonius, who lived a century or so later, are our best resources) is accurate. The Romans weren't above [[You Fail History Forever|exaggerating and lying]] to [[Politically-Correct History|prove a moral point]].
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*** It's actually effective for the Mediterranean region in general, which is what Ibn Khaldun knew; while he mostly gave North African examples, you have to bear in mind that the ''Muqaddimah'' (which is where these theories come from) was actually the ''introduction'' to a much larger history of North Africa (''muqaddimah'' [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin|just means "introduction"]] in Arabic). With the possible exception of the Roman and Egyptian empires, pretty much all every great empire of the Mediterranean region in the pre-modern era were founded by at best half-civilized conquerors who took over the established civilizations: the Akkadians, Assyrians, Hittites, Persians, Macedonians, Germans, Arabs, and Turks (to name only the most obvious examples) all did this. Even the Romans were pretty uncouth when they started taking over Italy; between their militarism, agrarianism, lack of high culture, and piety, <ref>Rome was noted as the most pious city in Italy in that era</ref> the perception among the Etruscans and Greeks of the peninsula was essentially the same perception that American bicoastal elites have of [[Flyover Country]]. Even the Egyptians count to some degree, as their empire was only established after native rulers adopted the technology of foreign barbarians (the "Hyksos", who were probably Canaanite shepherds).
*** It's actually effective for the Mediterranean region in general, which is what Ibn Khaldun knew; while he mostly gave North African examples, you have to bear in mind that the ''Muqaddimah'' (which is where these theories come from) was actually the ''introduction'' to a much larger history of North Africa (''muqaddimah'' [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin|just means "introduction"]] in Arabic). With the possible exception of the Roman and Egyptian empires, pretty much all every great empire of the Mediterranean region in the pre-modern era were founded by at best half-civilized conquerors who took over the established civilizations: the Akkadians, Assyrians, Hittites, Persians, Macedonians, Germans, Arabs, and Turks (to name only the most obvious examples) all did this. Even the Romans were pretty uncouth when they started taking over Italy; between their militarism, agrarianism, lack of high culture, and piety, <ref>Rome was noted as the most pious city in Italy in that era</ref> the perception among the Etruscans and Greeks of the peninsula was essentially the same perception that American bicoastal elites have of [[Flyover Country]]. Even the Egyptians count to some degree, as their empire was only established after native rulers adopted the technology of foreign barbarians (the "Hyksos", who were probably Canaanite shepherds).
* Ferdinand The Good (AKA Goodinand The Finished). While it's debatable whether or not he was retarded, he ''was'' epileptic.
* Ferdinand The Good (AKA Goodinand The Finished). While it's debatable whether or not he was retarded, he ''was'' epileptic.
* [[Ludwig II of Bavaria]] was considered by many to be mad, and deposed because of it, followed by his death the next day of either murder or suicide. For the most part his 'insanity' consisted of an obsession with building elaborate castles, opera music, and beautiful men, and he's more fondly remembered now.
* [[Ludwig II of Bavaria]] was considered by many to be mad, and deposed because of it, followed by his death the next day of either murder or suicide. For the most part his 'insanity' consisted of an obsession with building elaborate castles, opera music, and beautiful men, and he's more fondly remembered now.
** After that, his successor, King Otto, spent his entire 'reign' institutionalised.
** After that, his successor, King Otto, spent his entire 'reign' institutionalised.


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