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Except that he doesn't have the answer. In fact, he doesn't even understand the question.
 
Often, the most brilliant [[Mistaken for Special Guest|visiting expert]], or most beloved substitute teacher, or most canny enemy agent is really [[The Fool]]. He's usually either a harmless imbecile or mental patient, who, simply because he has the right appearance and is at the right place at the right time, is assumed to be someone other than he actually is. Because everyone assumes that he's a genius, [[Word Salad Philosophy|their odd meanderings and banalities]] [[Ice Cream Koan|are taken for profundities.]] Oddly enough, his advice is almost always spot on, because the real problems are actually very simple -- [[Too Dumb to Fool|so simple that everyone has been overlooking the answers all along]].
 
The '''Seemingly-Profound Fool''' is a human Rorschach test: Other people project what they most want to find onto him, and will insist on their interpretation of his words and deeds with a desperate will no matter how outrageous they are from an objective point of view.
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A [[Sub-Trope]] of [[Mistaken for Profound]].
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{{noreallife|calling somebody a fool is [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment|rarely complimentary]].}}
== Anime ==
 
 
* An episode of ''[[Irresponsible Captain Tylor|The Irresponsible Captain Tylor]]'' features this. Several of the ship's female crew members come in to ask for advice while Tylor is preoccupied and takes his comments regarding his task as the desired advice. In truth, all Tylor was doing was desperately trying to stop his VCR from recording over the porno tape the ship's marines had given him with explicit instructions to return intact.
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== Anime and Manga ==
* An episode of ''[[Irresponsible Captain Tylor|The Irresponsible Captain Tylor]]'' features this. Several of the ship's female crew members come in to ask for advice while Tylor is preoccupied and takes his comments regarding his task as the desired advice. In truth, all Tylor was doing was desperately trying to stop his VCR from recording over the porno tape the ship's marines had given him with explicit instructions to return intact.
* In the ''[[Gintama]]'' episode "Dango Over Flowers", local homeless man Musashi is presented as a "famous gourmet" and the judge for a sweets-eating competition. The Andromeda team raises three objections, and Musashi's response each time - "You better eat while you can!" - is interpreted differently in each context.
 
== Film ==
* One of the deleted scenes of ''[[Galaxy Quest]]'' fully exemplifies this, but it's pretty much the whole point of the movie.
 
* The [[Trope Namer|trope used to be named]] for the character of Chance the Gardener in [[Peter Sellers]]' social satire ''[[Being There]]'' based on a novel by Jerzy Kosiński. Raised and kept isolated from the outside world that he only knows through his incessant TV viewing, Chance is abandoned after his old employer dies and he wanders through [[Washington DC|Washington, D.C.]] in a daze. He ends up a major political figure—underfigure — under the name of Chauncey Gardiner—withoutGardiner — without ever understanding what is happening to him (or so it seems: the [[Twist Ending]] leaves room for the possibility that he was really [[Messianic Archetype|more than he seemed]]).
 
** It's worth noting that Sellers wanted to play the role upon reading the novel because he saw himself in it. The film's ending wasn't in the book or script, but was conceived by director Hal Ashby as a response to how the film was developing, especially Sellers' performance. ( {{spoiler|It was believable that Chance would walk on water}}).
* One of the deleted scenes of [[Galaxy Quest]] fully exemplifies this, but it's pretty much the whole point of the movie.
* The [[Trope Namer|trope used to be named]] for the character of Chance the Gardener in [[Peter Sellers]]' social satire ''[[Being There]]'' based on a novel by Jerzy Kosiński. Raised and kept isolated from the outside world that he only knows through his incessant TV viewing, Chance is abandoned after his old employer dies and he wanders through Washington, D.C.in a daze. He ends up a major political figure—under the name of Chauncey Gardiner—without ever understanding what is happening to him (or so it seems: the [[Twist Ending]] leaves room for the possibility that he was really [[Messianic Archetype|more than he seemed]]).
** It's worth noting that Sellers wanted to play the role upon reading the novel because he saw himself in it. The film's ending wasn't in the book or script, but was conceived by director Hal Ashby as a response to how the film was developing, especially Sellers' performance. ( {{spoiler|It was believable that Chance would walk on water}}).
* Mr. Gower in the film ''Teachers'', a harmless schizophrenic whose bizarre antics make him the best teacher in the school. His presence is a scathing dramatization of the old adage, "You don't have to be crazy to work here, but it helps."
* Elwood P. Dowd in ''[[Harvey]]'' describes this as essentially his job. He goes to a bar, people sit down and tell him their worries, and he introduces them to [[Not-So-Imaginary Friend|Harvey]]. By the time they're done talking, the people walk away feeling better and never talk to him again.
{{quote|''"My mother once said, 'Elwood, to get along in this world you must be oh so smart, or oh so pleasant.' For years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me on that."''}}
* "Hi, my name is Forrest, [[Forrest Gump]]."{{context}}
* ''[[Mr. Bean|Bean]]'' toys with this trope when he has to give an impromptu speech on the Portrait of Whistler's Mother. Observations like how it's good that the painting is large because "if it were very small... microscopic... then hardly anyone would be able to see it," are taken by the attending crowd as the brilliant statements of a prominent professor of the arts. Subverted, however, in that several other characters quickly recognize that Bean is anything but a genius.
* German movie ''Didi -- Der Experte'' by/with comedian Didi Hallervorden. Car mechanic Willy Schulze (an apolitical guy) is mistaken for the political expert Willy Schneider. They both have lost their memory in a car accident and starts successfully helping the mayor of Berlin with slogans like "We have to pull on the screws" or "Why change the engine?". Until he regains his memory and decides to take revenge. This ends in a massive landslide loss for BOTH''both'' major parties.
* ''[[Zelig]]'' played by [[Woody Allen]] evolves into this, because his only real skill is the ability to [[Blank Slate|blend in]] and [[Feigning Intelligence|feign expertise]]. This leads him to [[The Zelig|meet famous people]] and [[Kavorka Man|bed numerous women]].
* [[John Candy]] played exactly this character in ''[[Who's Harry Crumb?]]''. Harry (Candy) is almost in [[The Simpsons (animation)|Ralph Wiggum's]] league. He was sent in by the [[Corrupt Corporate Executive]] because the executive wanted to send the worst possible detective in the world. Eventually, some characters do catch on to Crumb's stupidity, but by the end are wondering if it was [[Obfuscating Stupidity]]. It {{spoiler|probably was not.}}
* The driving concept of the comedy ''[[The Man With One Red Shoe]]'', in which a clueless musician (played by Pierre Richard in the original frenchFrench film and [[Tom Hanks]] in the americanAmerican remake) gets mistaken for a powerful and highly competent spy. Everything he says and does for the rest of the movie is spied, filmed, analyzed and dissected by real government counterintelligence agents who become more and more convinced of his [[Informed Attribute|so-called cunning]] when he is in fact none of those things.
 
== Literature ==
* Subverted twice in the ''[[Discworld]]'' novel "''[[Interesting Times"]]'', when Rincewind is claimed as the Great Wizzard, who will lead the Red Army to victory. Firstly, because Rincewind ''does'' understand the question and knows he doesn't have the answer, but can't convince anyone of this; and second, because the leader of the Red Army knows this as well, but thinks they need a symbol. And, of course, [[Double Subversion|double-subverted]] when he does, though a combination of chance and cowardly cunning.
 
* In ''[[That Hideous Strength]]'' by [[C. S. Lewis]], the villains find a man they believe to be the reawakened Merlin. Since they want Merlin on their side as an ally, they treat him with great respect, addressing him stammeringly in Latin, which they believe to be his native tongue. They are unsurprised when he does not deign to answer them. Little do they know that he's actually a hobo who just happened to be wandering around the area where they thought Merlin was, and who knows better than to disabuse them of their illusions about his identity.
 
* The short story "[https://web.archive.org/web/20121215143414/http://www.analitica.com/BITBLIObitblio/coll/diente.asp El Diente Roto]" by Pedro Emilio Coll is about a troublesome boy who, after he broke a tooth in a fight becomes devoted to touching his tooth with the tip of his tongue shutting off any other thought and becoming eerily quiet. The people around him interpret his sudden change and his apparently reflective attitude as great genius. Thus, the guy eventually climbs socially up while being all unaware of it, somehow not registering that he has become president of the country shortly before dying because he spent all the time touching his broken teeth.
* Subverted twice in the ''[[Discworld]]'' novel "Interesting Times", when Rincewind is claimed as the Great Wizzard, who will lead the Red Army to victory. Firstly, because Rincewind ''does'' understand the question and knows he doesn't have the answer, but can't convince anyone of this; and second, because the leader of the Red Army knows this as well, but thinks they need a symbol. And, of course, [[Double Subversion|double-subverted]] when he does, though a combination of chance and cowardly cunning.
* In ''[[That Hideous Strength]]'' by C.S. Lewis, the villains find a man they believe to be the reawakened Merlin. Since they want Merlin on their side as an ally, they treat him with great respect, addressing him stammeringly in Latin, which they believe to be his native tongue. They are unsurprised when he does not deign to answer them. Little do they know that he's actually a hobo who just happened to be wandering around the area where they thought Merlin was, and who knows better than to disabuse them of their illusions about his identity.
* The short story "[http://www.analitica.com/BITBLIO/coll/diente.asp El Diente Roto]" by Pedro Emilio Coll is about a troublesome boy who, after he broke a tooth in a fight becomes devoted to touching his tooth with the tip of his tongue shutting off any other thought and becoming eerily quiet. The people around him interpret his sudden change and his apparently reflective attitude as great genius.
* Mr. Dick serves in this capacity to some extent to Betsey Trotwood in ''[[David Copperfield (novel)|David Copperfield]]''.
* In a book of Jewish Jokes there is this joke. An antisemiticanti-Semitic priest was in charge of a town, and challenged the Jews of the town to a sign language debate with him, with a catch: if the person they pick to debate loses, all the Jews must leave. No one volunteers for the debate except a poor fool. At the debate, the priest draws a big circle in the air. The fool stamps on the ground. The priest holds up three fingers. The fool shakes his head and holds up one. The priest takes out bread and wine. The fool begins to eat an apple. The priest then declares that the fool had won the debate. The priest's explanation: "The circle meant that God was everywhere in the world. The stamp on the ground meant God was not in Hell. The three fingers represented the Trinity. Holding up one finger meant that God was one and indivisible. The bread and wine represented the blood and flesh of Jesus, but when he reminded me of the original sin, I knew he had won." The ''fool's'' explanation, on the other hand: "The priest pointed far away, meaning that all the Jews must leave. I stamped on the ground, to say that we're staying right here. The three fingers meant that we had three days to get out. The one finger meant that not one of us was leaving. Then, I guess he gave up, since he took out his lunch, so I took out mine."
** Here is another version. The king holds out his hand with the fingers spread, and the fool puts up a fist. The king puts out two fingers and the fool holds up one. Then the king takes out a piece of moldy cheese, and the fool takes out an egg. The king meant for the outstretched hand to mean that the Jews were scattered over the world, and the fist meant that they were united in God. The two fingers meant that there were two kings, on in Heaven and one on Earth, but the fool signified that there was only one king, God. The cheese meant that the religion was old and falling apart, but the egg meant that it was fresh and whole. Or... the king tried to grab the fool and he held up a fist to ward him off, the two fingers were to poke out his eyes and the finger was to stop him, and they both brought out their lunches.
** There's a Zen koan variant of this, where the foolish one is a one-eyed man who assumes the other guy is making fun of his deformity.
* A short story by Richard Fuchs tells about a timid man who is henpecked by his wife, exploited by his boss and bullied by his co-workers. After having surgery to the mouth his speech becomes near unintelligible... and the people who try to understand what he says, haunted by their bad consciences, interpret it as him finally having grown a spine. They nervously start to try accomodating him, giving him a happy ending of sorts.
* ''[[Flashman]]'' builds his reputation on this - he misses an opponent in a duel in such a way that he looks to have pulled off a trick shot, then he passes out while trying to surrender the British flag so that when he's found it's assumed he was protecting it. As a result, he becomes a military hero. Being a ''[[Magnificent Bastard]]'', of course, he plays up to this.
* In a short story by ''[[Patrick McManus]]'', He smokes a pipe and looks "Bemused" in order to hide is ignorance. This causes people to think he is doing some serious intellectual pondering.
* [[James Thurber]]'s ''Fables for our Time'' has "The Owl Who Was God", where a bunch of forest animals make an owl their leader when this trope makes them think he's [[The Owl-Knowing One]], with the result that most of them (including the owl) get killed by being run over by a truck.
* Happens to [[Jeeves and Wooster (novel)|Bertie Wooster]] quite a few times. In ''The Inimitable Jeeves'', Bertie's friend Bingo Little claims that Bertie is the true author of his uncle's favorite series of romance novels. The uncle spends the rest of the book thinking Bertie is a literary genius with unparalleled insight into the human condition, {{spoiler|until the real author shows up and Jeeves [[Esoteric Happy Ending|saves the day by telling everyone Bertie is insane]]}}.
 
== Live -Action TV ==
 
* Every other [[Fawlty Towers Plot|plot]] in ''[[Fawlty Towers]]''.
* Summer Roberts in ''[[The OC]]'' impressed fellow students at a college fair by her seemingly profound, but actually clueless question "What is a jihad?". A reviewer at [[Television Without Pity]] snarkily, but not implausibly, wondered if she got her unexpectedly high test scores a few episodes earlier by writing "What is 'multiple choice'?" on her answer booklet.
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** In the same episode of [[Father Ted]], in preparation for the visit of three bishops, Ted teaches Father Jack two new phrases to supplement his usual vocabulary of "Drink", "Feck" and "Arse": "Yes" and "That would be an ecumenical matter". The visiting bishops end up believing Father Jack is a theological genius.
* ''[[Arrested Development (TV series)|Arrested Development]]'' invokes this trope, ending with an homage to ''Being There''. Michael, stunned, asks GOB if that was just one of his tricks, to which GOB responds it was not. {{spoiler|It was his [[Insistent Terminology|ILLUSION!]] (A trick is something a whore does for money.)}}
** {{spoiler|Or cocaine.}}
** {{spoiler|Or candy, if you're watching the censored version.}}
* In [[The Tenth Kingdom]], the dog impersonating Prince Wendell is asked a number of tricky questions to test whether he was worthy of being king. First, his bravery is challenged, and he describes tearing the troll king's throat out with his teeth. Next, he is asked for wisdom, and he describes finding a hundred bones and burying most of them, which the audience takes as a metaphor for conserving precious resources. Finally, Cinderella asks if he's really Wendell White. He breaks down, admits he's unworthy of the name, describes himself as not a leader but rather a "retriever," and says he will never be as great as Snow White and should not be named king. Cinderella thus pronounces that he has passed the test by showing humility.
** One gets the impression that the tests were a formality and everyone was looking for an excuse to pass him.
* In one episode of [[Leverage]], the entire crew (save Nate, of course) is convinced that a museum's head of security is a obsessive, nearly militant force to be reckoned with. Instead, it turns out he's a bumbling [[The Woobie|Woobie]] with a crush on Sophie.
 
== Theater Theatre ==
 
* In Peter Shaffer's ''Black Comedy'' the main characters are awaiting a ridiculously wealthy, deaf German art lover who is coming to appraise the male lead's sculptures. As they are preparing, a fuse blows and they are plunged into darkness (hence the title). The electrician who is called to repair the fuse is German and after being shouted very loudly at he corrects them that he is not deaf, which they interpret as meaning the newspaper articles were wrong. They then get him to offer his opinion on the lead's art; the mistake is undiscovered until he reveals that he can't afford to buy the piece.
** Actually a subversion—for a mere electrician, he has an [[Encyclopedic Knowledge]] of and appreciation for art, but everyone dismisses him once they discover his identity.
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== Video Games ==
 
* Raz in ''[[Psychonauts]]'' believes that the absent-minded but constantly-babbling Crueller is actually undergoing some kind of secret assignment. However, he really is just that impaired. {{spoiler|Or rather, his split personalities are. Crueller himself is still a sensible and powerful psychic.}}
 
== Web Comics ==
 
* The manner in which Largo of ''[[Megatokyo]]'' gets his teaching job in Japan despite not even speaking Japanese. He ''does'' get found out when the new English teacher he was mistaken for shows up, but is brought back by popular demand. Apparently, speaking l33t in the classroom, teaching students how to customize their home computers, and dragging them on a "field trip" to the arcade to [[I Know Mortal Kombat|learn to battle]] the impending [[Zombie Apocalypse|zombie invasion]] makes "Great Teacher Largo" the most beloved instructor in the school.
* ''[[Mountain Time]]'': [http://mountaincomics.com/comic/grimace-and-leutze/ Grimace And Leutze] has a character trying to achieve this effect by exploiting [[Death of the Author]].
 
== Web Original ==
* From ''[[The Onion]]'': [https://web.archive.org/web/20100219064603/http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/machiavellian_white_house Machiavellian White House Groundskeeper Gaining Influence Among West Wing Staff]
 
* From ''[[The Onion]]'': [http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/machiavellian_white_house Machiavellian White House Groundskeeper Gaining Influence Among West Wing Staff]
* In the ''Time Squad'' miniseries of [[Blockhead]], the eponymous character is strung along on a time-traveling sci-fi adventure to stop a [[Mad Scientist]] from destroying time and space itself. As the series goes on, he inadvertently becomes [[The Heart]] in the [[Five-Man Band]] that is eventually formed as well as the [[Worthy Opponent]] and [[Arch Enemy]] of the [[Big Bad]], despite being nothing but a [[Cloudcuckoolander]] [[Talkative Loon]] throughout the entire series. He ultimately does save the universe, but even then it seems more like one of his random fits of insanity than anything.
 
== Western Animation ==
 
* The title characters play this role in several episodes of ''[[Beavis and Butthead]]''; in typical plots they are mistaken for job-site replacements or new hires, given control of vehicles or put in front of microphones when other characters, ostensibly smarter, take the giggling idiots entirely at their word.
** ''[[Robot Chicken]]'' noticed this: they were able to join the [[Teen Titans (animation)|Teen Titans]] because of this.
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* ''[[The Simpsons]]'': In "E Pluribus Wiggum", the Republicans and Democrats battle to secure Ralph—a rather dumb eight-year-old, -- as a ''presidential candidate.''
* One episode of ''[[Goof Troop]]'' featured Goofy applying for a job at the local NASA inspired science lab. He thought he was applying for the Janitor position; the scientists thought he was a brilliant eccentric scientist on the level of Einstein, and kept mistaking all his random comments and actions as profound advice for their floundering space program.
* In the ''[[Phineas and Ferb]]'' episode "She's the Mayor", Candace wins a competition with with an essay titled "Why My Little Brothers Should Be Busted". Roger, the mayor, praises her use of metaphor for financial matters. In reality, Candace is just obsessed with busting her brothers. Other characters continue to take everything she says as a metaphor throughout the episode.
{{quote|'''Man: ''' Hooray for busting little brothers being a perfect metaphor for our times!
'''Candance:''' NOT EVERYTHING IS A METAPHOR! }}
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