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[[caption-width-right:280: [[It Got Worse|There've been two more since this image was made]].<ref>And a [[Recycled: The Series|TV Series]]. And a plentiful amount of [[Licensed Game|Licensed Games]]. All of which are ''painfully'' [[Lighter and Softer]].</ref>
[[caption-width-right:280: [[It Got Worse|There've been two more since this image was made]].<ref>And a [[Recycled: the Series|TV Series]]. And a plentiful amount of [[Licensed Game|Licensed Games]]. All of which are ''painfully'' [[Lighter and Softer]].</ref>


{{quote|''"[[Creator Backlash|You can't top pigs with pigs]]."''|'''[[Walt Disney]]''''s [[Older Than Television|response to the failures]] of the three follow up shorts of the ''[[Three Little Pigs (Disney)|Three Little Pigs]]''}}
{{quote|''"[[Creator Backlash|You can't top pigs with pigs]]."''|'''[[Walt Disney]]''''s [[Older Than Television|response to the failures]] of the three follow up shorts of the ''[[Three Little Pigs (Disney film)|Three Little Pigs]]''}}


As the number of films in a series swells, the probability of an entry that is unmitigated crap [[Sturgeon's Law|jumps to a number greater than 50% with the second installment, and approaches 100% thereafter]]. For example, a successful film has a sequel that is decent but nothing compared to the original film. Suddenly a third movie appears and is may not even be produced or directed by the same people as the other two. If there are any more sequels, it just goes downhill from there if none of them are entertaining.
As the number of films in a series swells, the probability of an entry that is unmitigated crap [[Sturgeon's Law|jumps to a number greater than 50% with the second installment, and approaches 100% thereafter]]. For example, a successful film has a sequel that is decent but nothing compared to the original film. Suddenly a third movie appears and is may not even be produced or directed by the same people as the other two. If there are any more sequels, it just goes downhill from there if none of them are entertaining.
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Common symptoms of [[Sequelitis]] (that is, things which contribute to a sequel not being as well received as the original) include, but are not limited to:
Common symptoms of [[Sequelitis]] (that is, things which contribute to a sequel not being as well received as the original) include, but are not limited to:


* TYPE I: The casual (and sometimes [[Dropped a Bridge On Him|callous]]) bumping off of beloved characters whose actors either refused to or couldn't return for the sequel.
* TYPE I: The casual (and sometimes [[Dropped a Bridge on Him|callous]]) bumping off of beloved characters whose actors either refused to or couldn't return for the sequel.
** Low-budget cash-in sequels may take the alternate route of simply [[The Other Darrin|recasting]] almost every recurring character with a fresh batch of B-list actors, not just those formerly played by child actors now grown too old and big name stars now busy elsewhere.
** Low-budget cash-in sequels may take the alternate route of simply [[The Other Darrin|recasting]] almost every recurring character with a fresh batch of B-list actors, not just those formerly played by child actors now grown too old and big name stars now busy elsewhere.
** Occasionally the reverse situation happens -- the filmmakers bumped off a beloved character in the ''first'' film, but find a [[Ass Pull|contrived way]] to bring them back.
** Occasionally the reverse situation happens -- the filmmakers bumped off a beloved character in the ''first'' film, but find a [[Ass Pull|contrived way]] to bring them back.
** It's not uncommon for a main or supporting character from the original movie to [[Chuck Cunningham Syndrome|disappear with no explanation]] for the sequel, usually because the actor(s) didn't want to return and the filmmakers [[They Just Didn't Care|didn't want to bother]] with recasting the part.
** It's not uncommon for a main or supporting character from the original movie to [[Chuck Cunningham Syndrome|disappear with no explanation]] for the sequel, usually because the actor(s) didn't want to return and the filmmakers [[They Just Didn't Care|didn't want to bother]] with recasting the part.
** Another possibility filmmakers take when they can't get most/all of the original cast back is to center a story around the [[Remember the New Guy|previously unmentioned]] relative/friend of a beloved character, assuming that a connection to the original character will help make the new character just as good and beloved as the original. This can often lead to [[In Name Only]].
** Another possibility filmmakers take when they can't get most/all of the original cast back is to center a story around the [[Remember the New Guy?|previously unmentioned]] relative/friend of a beloved character, assuming that a connection to the original character will help make the new character just as good and beloved as the original. This can often lead to [[In Name Only]].
* TYPE II: The [[Chuck Cunningham Syndrome|mysterious unexplained departure]] of a hero's love interest (either because the actor or actress refused to return for the sequel or because the producers thought the [[Shipping|Shippers]] would lose interest in the hero if he or she was married.) At most, there may be a [[Hand Wave|throwaway]] [[Sequel Non Entity|line]] that poorly explains why he or she isn't there.
* TYPE II: The [[Chuck Cunningham Syndrome|mysterious unexplained departure]] of a hero's love interest (either because the actor or actress refused to return for the sequel or because the producers thought the [[Shipping|Shippers]] would lose interest in the hero if he or she was married.) At most, there may be a [[Hand Wave|throwaway]] [[Sequel Non Entity|line]] that poorly explains why he or she isn't there.
* TYPE III: [[Wacky Wayside Tribe|Wacky Wayside Tribes]] begin choking the plot to conceal the fact that the writers have basically run out of story.
* TYPE III: [[Wacky Wayside Tribe|Wacky Wayside Tribes]] begin choking the plot to conceal the fact that the writers have basically run out of story.
* TYPE IV: It's natural for producers to try and recapture the magic and atmosphere which made the first movie so successful. However, oftentimes they'll think to themselves: "Hmm. X worked really well in the first movie. If we [[Up to Eleven|ramp X up]] and show [[The Same but More|ten times as much of it]] in the second movie, people will ''love'' it!", "X" usually being [[Refuge in Vulgarity|toilet humor]], sadistic slapstick violence, or something else along those lines.
* TYPE IV: It's natural for producers to try and recapture the magic and atmosphere which made the first movie so successful. However, oftentimes they'll think to themselves: "Hmm. X worked really well in the first movie. If we [[Up to Eleven|ramp X up]] and show [[The Same but More|ten times as much of it]] in the second movie, people will ''love'' it!", "X" usually being [[Refuge in Vulgarity|toilet humor]], sadistic slapstick violence, or something else along those lines.
* TYPE V: A tendency for the property to [[Denser and Wackier|escalate into more science fiction, fantasy, or all around ''cartoonish'' elements]], when the original at least made some attempt at being [[Sliding Scale of Realistic Versus Fantastic|realistic]] (or at least [[Low Fantasy|low-key]] and [[Magic A Is Magic A|consistent]] in its unrealism).
* TYPE V: A tendency for the property to [[Denser and Wackier|escalate into more science fiction, fantasy, or all around ''cartoonish'' elements]], when the original at least made some attempt at being [[Sliding Scale of Realistic Versus Fantastic|realistic]] (or at least [[Low Fantasy|low-key]] and [[Magic a Is Magic A|consistent]] in its unrealism).
** Or to become [[Actionized Sequel|louder, brasher and more violent]] at the expense of other aspects of the original.
** Or to become [[Actionized Sequel|louder, brasher and more violent]] at the expense of other aspects of the original.
** Inversely, it is also possible for a property that was initially wacky and intentionally unrealistic in the name of [[Rule of Cool]], [[Rule of Funny]], etc to try and ground itself and be more realistic, losing its original charm in the process. However, this seems to be far less common an occurrence than its inverse.
** Inversely, it is also possible for a property that was initially wacky and intentionally unrealistic in the name of [[Rule of Cool]], [[Rule of Funny]], etc to try and ground itself and be more realistic, losing its original charm in the process. However, this seems to be far less common an occurrence than its inverse.
* TYPE VI: Many sequels begin to suffer from [[Pandering to The Base]]. Although it may ''seem'' like a good idea at the time -- who better to try and get onside than the fans of the franchise? -- this rarely ends well; usually, trying to please the fans ends up both (a) [[Continuity Lock Out|isolating a potential new audience]] and (b) annoying the fans, who are often made to realize that what they ''think'' they want isn't necessarily what they ''actually'' want, and are [[Serious Business|very quick and loud to say so]]. Many filmmakers often have little actual understanding of what fans ''do'' want, having merely perused a handful of message boards and assuming they speak for all fandom, if they even do ''that'' much research; in essence they end up catering to a [[Straw Fan]]. This is particularly the case when bringing back a much beloved character who [[Ensemble Darkhorse|unexpectedly won the audience over]] in the first movie, only to do nothing interesting with them or, worse, [[Flanderization|Flanderize]] them so much that they end up being a one-dimensional caricature of the charming and multi-faceted character they fell in love with in the first place.
* TYPE VI: Many sequels begin to suffer from [[Pandering to the Base]]. Although it may ''seem'' like a good idea at the time -- who better to try and get onside than the fans of the franchise? -- this rarely ends well; usually, trying to please the fans ends up both (a) [[Continuity Lock Out|isolating a potential new audience]] and (b) annoying the fans, who are often made to realize that what they ''think'' they want isn't necessarily what they ''actually'' want, and are [[Serious Business|very quick and loud to say so]]. Many filmmakers often have little actual understanding of what fans ''do'' want, having merely perused a handful of message boards and assuming they speak for all fandom, if they even do ''that'' much research; in essence they end up catering to a [[Straw Fan]]. This is particularly the case when bringing back a much beloved character who [[Ensemble Darkhorse|unexpectedly won the audience over]] in the first movie, only to do nothing interesting with them or, worse, [[Flanderization|Flanderize]] them so much that they end up being a one-dimensional caricature of the charming and multi-faceted character they fell in love with in the first place.
* TYPE VII: The increasing insistence these days of any successful blockbuster movie to be [[Two-Part Trilogy|stretched out to make a trilogy]], whether the plot or characters particularly call for one or not; as such, a high-quality and self-contained first movie will often be artificially extended (with or without a [[Sequel Hook]]) into two bloated, incoherent sequels with the plot extended beyond its limits and stretched too thin between them.
* TYPE VII: The increasing insistence these days of any successful blockbuster movie to be [[Two-Part Trilogy|stretched out to make a trilogy]], whether the plot or characters particularly call for one or not; as such, a high-quality and self-contained first movie will often be artificially extended (with or without a [[Sequel Hook]]) into two bloated, incoherent sequels with the plot extended beyond its limits and stretched too thin between them.


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The dreadful compulsion on the part of writers and filmmakers to add new chapters to perfectly good works has been likened to an addiction, sometimes termed sequelholism. The writers sometimes seem aware of this, and as a run of sequels are produced they may drop numbering the movies entirely and start [[Oddly-Named Sequel 2: Electric Boogaloo|adding cliché subtitles]]. This only makes it harder to guess the order to watch for new fans. If they ''aren't'' aware of this, then, in the end, odds are [[First Installment Wins]].
The dreadful compulsion on the part of writers and filmmakers to add new chapters to perfectly good works has been likened to an addiction, sometimes termed sequelholism. The writers sometimes seem aware of this, and as a run of sequels are produced they may drop numbering the movies entirely and start [[Oddly-Named Sequel 2: Electric Boogaloo|adding cliché subtitles]]. This only makes it harder to guess the order to watch for new fans. If they ''aren't'' aware of this, then, in the end, odds are [[First Installment Wins]].


The inverse is a [[Surprisingly Improved Sequel]] or [[Even Better Sequel]] (depending on the quality of the original). [[Contested Sequel]] is when there is considerable division about the sequel's quality. Distantly related to [[Adaptation Decay]]. For a strangely divergent sequel, see [[In Name Only]]. For a sequel that retains the monster or villain but features none of the original heroes, see [[Villain Based Franchise]]. Can be caused by a poor choice in [[Sequel Escalation]], and lead up to [[Franchise Zombie]]. Backlash against sequels has made many reviewers [[Sequelphobic]]. Some fans treat such sequels with [[Fanon Discontinuity]]. See also [[Sophomore Slump]], [[The Problem With Licensed Games]].
The inverse is a [[Surprisingly Improved Sequel]] or [[Even Better Sequel]] (depending on the quality of the original). [[Contested Sequel]] is when there is considerable division about the sequel's quality. Distantly related to [[Adaptation Decay]]. For a strangely divergent sequel, see [[In Name Only]]. For a sequel that retains the monster or villain but features none of the original heroes, see [[Villain Based Franchise]]. Can be caused by a poor choice in [[Sequel Escalation]], and lead up to [[Franchise Zombie]]. Backlash against sequels has made many reviewers [[Sequelphobic]]. Some fans treat such sequels with [[Fanon Discontinuity]]. See also [[Sophomore Slump]], [[The Problem with Licensed Games]].


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* [[Disney Animated Canon]] + [[Direct to Video]] Sequels = [[What Were You Thinking?]]? The only exception being ''[[The Rescuers]] Down Under'', which is a part of the Animated Canon anyway and the first movie to use CAPS.
* [[Disney Animated Canon]] + [[Direct to Video]] Sequels = [[What Were You Thinking?]]? The only exception being ''[[The Rescuers]] Down Under'', which is a part of the Animated Canon anyway and the first movie to use CAPS.
** [[Money, Dear Boy]]. Also copyright renewal, while they keep lobbying Congress to extend copyright indefinitely.
** [[Money, Dear Boy]]. Also copyright renewal, while they keep lobbying Congress to extend copyright indefinitely.
** This includes a sequel midquel to the classic 1942 film ''[[Bambi (Disney)|Bambi]]''. That's right, '''a direct-to-video sequel to Bambi''' that came out '''''more than six decades''''' after the original was released. The Bambi midquel is [[Your Mileage May Vary|arguably]] one of the better direct-to-video sequels in terms of both writing and animation (and even earned a theatrical release in some areas).
** This includes a sequel midquel to the classic 1942 film ''[[Bambi]]''. That's right, '''a direct-to-video sequel to Bambi''' that came out '''''more than six decades''''' after the original was released. The Bambi midquel is [[Your Mileage May Vary|arguably]] one of the better direct-to-video sequels in terms of both writing and animation (and even earned a theatrical release in some areas).
** One of the conditions [[Pixar]] put when they joined with Disney was that they wouldn't be [[Executive Meddling|required]] to make sequels. In fact, because one of the parts of the merger was putting Pixar's people in charge of Disney's animation studio, one of the first things they did was halted production of Disney's own ''[[Toy Story]] 3'' and began working on the title in-house. Consequently, both the third movie and the entire ''[[Toy Story]]'' trilogy have been lauded as cinema classics. They did, however, make a sequel to ''[[Cars]]'', widely considered [[Redheaded Stepchild|one of their worst movies]], resulting in what is widely considered their ''worst'' movie, ''Cars 2''.
** One of the conditions [[Pixar]] put when they joined with Disney was that they wouldn't be [[Executive Meddling|required]] to make sequels. In fact, because one of the parts of the merger was putting Pixar's people in charge of Disney's animation studio, one of the first things they did was halted production of Disney's own ''[[Toy Story]] 3'' and began working on the title in-house. Consequently, both the third movie and the entire ''[[Toy Story]]'' trilogy have been lauded as cinema classics. They did, however, make a sequel to ''[[Cars]]'', widely considered [[Redheaded Stepchild|one of their worst movies]], resulting in what is widely considered their ''worst'' movie, ''Cars 2''.
** ''[[Pocahontas (Disney)|Pocahontas]] 2: Journey to the New World'' brings the title character slightly closer to her historical, real-life counterpart (her romance with John Rolfe, visiting England), and also shows her making more mature decisions. However, the quality of the movie itself was met with more varied opinions.
** ''[[Pocahontas]] 2: Journey to the New World'' brings the title character slightly closer to her historical, real-life counterpart (her romance with John Rolfe, visiting England), and also shows her making more mature decisions. However, the quality of the movie itself was met with more varied opinions.
*** Also, there has probably never been a more hated product by the Disney company - all because Pocahontas [[Ruined FOREVER|ended up with a different guy in the sequel, completely destroying the Pocahontas/John Smith romance]].
*** Also, there has probably never been a more hated product by the Disney company - all because Pocahontas [[Ruined FOREVER|ended up with a different guy in the sequel, completely destroying the Pocahontas/John Smith romance]].
** ''[[The Emperor's New Groove (Disney)|The Emperors New Groove]]'' managed to really break the mold in terms of Disney animated movies, but its sequel was rather generic, playing out more like three episodes of a TV show strung together than an actual movie. Fittingly enough, there actually was later a TV series called ''The Emperor's New School'', complete with a [[The Other Darrin|new voice actor for Kuzco]] and apparently having all of the soul of the first movie surgically removed and replaced with [[The Same but More|more slapstick]].
** ''[[The Emperor's New Groove|The Emperors New Groove]]'' managed to really break the mold in terms of Disney animated movies, but its sequel was rather generic, playing out more like three episodes of a TV show strung together than an actual movie. Fittingly enough, there actually was later a TV series called ''The Emperor's New School'', complete with a [[The Other Darrin|new voice actor for Kuzco]] and apparently having all of the soul of the first movie surgically removed and replaced with [[The Same but More|more slapstick]].
** Downplayed by the two DTV sequels to ''[[Aladdin (Disney)|Aladdin]]'', ''The Return of Jafar'' and ''The Prince of Thieves''. While clearly inferior to the original, they were nowwhere ''near'' horrible.
** Downplayed by the two DTV sequels to ''[[Aladdin (Disney film)|Aladdin]]'', ''The Return of Jafar'' and ''The Prince of Thieves''. While clearly inferior to the original, they were nowwhere ''near'' horrible.
** The good news is that, after Walt Disney Feature Animation got a new [[John Lasseter|man-in-charge]], he explicitly said that there were to be ''no more straight-to-DVD sequels.''
** The good news is that, after Walt Disney Feature Animation got a new [[John Lasseter|man-in-charge]], he explicitly said that there were to be ''no more straight-to-DVD sequels.''
** ''[[Cinderella (Disney)|Cinderella]] III: A Twist in Time'' was considered one of the best direct-to-video sequels Disney had ever produced by several reviewers and even several of those who weren't usually pleased by the sequels, even being stated to be "when the sequels started getting good." However, it was the last of the direct-to-video sequels to be made, so it's unknown if further sequels would've improved in quality.
** ''[[Cinderella (Disney film)|Cinderella]] III: A Twist in Time'' was considered one of the best direct-to-video sequels Disney had ever produced by several reviewers and even several of those who weren't usually pleased by the sequels, even being stated to be "when the sequels started getting good." However, it was the last of the direct-to-video sequels to be made, so it's unknown if further sequels would've improved in quality.
** [[The Lion King]]'s sequels were more favored than most other Disney sequels for their plot (''Simba's Pride'') and their theatrical-like animation (''1 1/2''/''Hakuna Matata'').
** [[The Lion King]]'s sequels were more favored than most other Disney sequels for their plot (''Simba's Pride'') and their theatrical-like animation (''1 1/2''/''Hakuna Matata'').
* ''[[The Land Before Time]]'' was a great movie. However, although the quality of the series is up and down from movie to movie (rather than a permanent nosedive, as some may have been led to believe) and may range from good to utter crap [[Your Mileage May Vary|depending on who you ask]], one constant is that none of the twelve(!!!) sequels (or [[Recycled: The Series|the TV show]], for that matter) can hold a candle to Bluth's original film. Not even close. Most people will be glad to hear that any word of a fourteenth movie is strictly a rumor thus far, and that it'll probably never happen. General consensus is that the series starts off weak with ''Great Valley Adventure'' being [[So Okay It's Average|not bad but not great]], gets a bit better with ''Time of Great Giving'', nosedives with ''Journey Through the Mists'' gets slowly better through ''Mysterious Island'', ''Secret of Saurus Rock'' and ''Stone of Cold Fire'', vastly improves with ''Big Freeze'', ''Journey to Big Water'', and ''Great Longneck Migration'', becomes even less serious with ''Invasion of the Tinysauruses'', improves a bit with ''Great Day of the Fliers'', and completely loses any respect with the last sequel ''Wisdom of Friends''. The fans seemed to give backlash to the very last sequels more so then even the earlier ones due to it getting [[Lighter and Softer]] each sequel. In the end, you know sequelitis has set in when they [[Stopped Numbering Sequels|stop mentioning]] the number it is. They even went as far as to retroactively remove the numbering from the older movies, too.
* ''[[The Land Before Time]]'' was a great movie. However, although the quality of the series is up and down from movie to movie (rather than a permanent nosedive, as some may have been led to believe) and may range from good to utter crap [[Your Mileage May Vary|depending on who you ask]], one constant is that none of the twelve(!!!) sequels (or [[Recycled: the Series|the TV show]], for that matter) can hold a candle to Bluth's original film. Not even close. Most people will be glad to hear that any word of a fourteenth movie is strictly a rumor thus far, and that it'll probably never happen. General consensus is that the series starts off weak with ''Great Valley Adventure'' being [[So Okay It's Average|not bad but not great]], gets a bit better with ''Time of Great Giving'', nosedives with ''Journey Through the Mists'' gets slowly better through ''Mysterious Island'', ''Secret of Saurus Rock'' and ''Stone of Cold Fire'', vastly improves with ''Big Freeze'', ''Journey to Big Water'', and ''Great Longneck Migration'', becomes even less serious with ''Invasion of the Tinysauruses'', improves a bit with ''Great Day of the Fliers'', and completely loses any respect with the last sequel ''Wisdom of Friends''. The fans seemed to give backlash to the very last sequels more so then even the earlier ones due to it getting [[Lighter and Softer]] each sequel. In the end, you know sequelitis has set in when they [[Stopped Numbering Sequels|stop mentioning]] the number it is. They even went as far as to retroactively remove the numbering from the older movies, too.
* All of [[Don Bluth]]'s classic films got hit with Sequelitis: in addition to the above-mentioned ''Land Before Time'', there were also sequels for ''[[An American Tail]]'', ''[[All Dogs Go to Heaven]]'' (which also got a TV series), and ''[[The Secret of NIMH]]''. ''An American Tail 2: Fievel Goes West'' though [[Lighter and Softer]] than the original is actually considered a quality follow up due to a higher budget theatrical release, ''The Secret Of NIMH 2: Timmy To The Rescue'' however is considered terrible by the majority of fans of the original. In all of those cases, Bluth was not involved with any of the sequels; the only sequels he was ever actually involved with making were the video game ''[[Dragon's Lair (Video Game)|Dragon's Lair II: Time Warp]]'' and the ''[[Anastasia]]'' direct-to-DVD sequel ''[[Bartok the Magnificent]]'', which became a classic that we've all heard of. [[What Could Have Been|Incidentally Bluth was originally to have involvement in the other aforementioned sequels, but had to turn it down to due heavy development on his own projects at the time]].
* All of [[Don Bluth]]'s classic films got hit with Sequelitis: in addition to the above-mentioned ''Land Before Time'', there were also sequels for ''[[An American Tail]]'', ''[[All Dogs Go to Heaven]]'' (which also got a TV series), and ''[[The Secret of NIMH]]''. ''An American Tail 2: Fievel Goes West'' though [[Lighter and Softer]] than the original is actually considered a quality follow up due to a higher budget theatrical release, ''The Secret Of NIMH 2: Timmy To The Rescue'' however is considered terrible by the majority of fans of the original. In all of those cases, Bluth was not involved with any of the sequels; the only sequels he was ever actually involved with making were the video game ''[[Dragon's Lair|Dragon's Lair II: Time Warp]]'' and the ''[[Anastasia]]'' direct-to-DVD sequel ''[[Bartok the Magnificent]]'', which became a classic that we've all heard of. [[What Could Have Been|Incidentally Bluth was originally to have involvement in the other aforementioned sequels, but had to turn it down to due heavy development on his own projects at the time]].
* Like in [[Don Bluth]]'s franchises mentioned above, ''[[Balto (Animation)|Balto]]'' had a case of Sequelitis. The sequels caused so many plot holes that many fans asked for the release of one that fixes everything so that the franchise can rest in peace, but given [[Universal]] Pictures' irrational hatred of the movie, they opted for making more ''[[The Land Before Time]]'' sequels until their traditional animation studios were closed for good. And then they changed to computer-tradtional mix, resulting in a more vivid colour scheme, but considerably better quality animation.
* Like in [[Don Bluth]]'s franchises mentioned above, ''[[Balto]]'' had a case of Sequelitis. The sequels caused so many plot holes that many fans asked for the release of one that fixes everything so that the franchise can rest in peace, but given [[Universal]] Pictures' irrational hatred of the movie, they opted for making more ''[[The Land Before Time]]'' sequels until their traditional animation studios were closed for good. And then they changed to computer-tradtional mix, resulting in a more vivid colour scheme, but considerably better quality animation.
* The first ''[[Shrek]]'' movie is a much beloved hit. The second movie was a worthy follow-up, or even better than the original, YMMV (it certainly grossed almost twice as much). The third movie is...[[Internet Backdraft|kinda]] [[Broken Base|polarizing]]. Consensus on the fourth is that it's... okay, but far better than the third. And so far, word on the ''Puss in Boots'' prequel is that it's actually pretty good.
* The first ''[[Shrek]]'' movie is a much beloved hit. The second movie was a worthy follow-up, or even better than the original, YMMV (it certainly grossed almost twice as much). The third movie is...[[Internet Backdraft|kinda]] [[Broken Base|polarizing]]. Consensus on the fourth is that it's... okay, but far better than the third. And so far, word on the ''Puss in Boots'' prequel is that it's actually pretty good.
* ''[[The Nine Lives of Fritz the Cat (Animation)|The Nine Lives of Fritz the Cat]]'' was not written or directed by [[Ralph Bakshi]], the maker of ''[[Fritz the Cat (Animation)|Fritz the Cat]]'', or Robert Crumb, who created [[Fritz the Cat (Comic Book)|the original comic]]. The only people involved with the first film who returned for the sequel are producer Steve Krantz and voice actor Skip Hinnant. Even Duke, one of the characters from the first film, is [[The Other Darrin|voiced by a different actor]].
* ''[[The Nine Lives of Fritz the Cat]]'' was not written or directed by [[Ralph Bakshi]], the maker of ''[[Fritz the Cat (animation)|Fritz the Cat]]'', or Robert Crumb, who created [[Fritz the Cat (comics)|the original comic]]. The only people involved with the first film who returned for the sequel are producer Steve Krantz and voice actor Skip Hinnant. Even Duke, one of the characters from the first film, is [[The Other Darrin|voiced by a different actor]].
* Averted with ''[[The Nightmare Before Christmas]]''. There was plans for a sequel, but [[Tim Burton]] talked to Disney and convinced them to leave the film alone and not ruin the integrity of the movie for fans. Instead we get [[Nightmare Before Christmas Oogies Revenge|a video game]] which averts [[The Problem With Licensed Games]]. Especially relieving considering the plans for the sequel would have it [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|made in CGI instead of stop-motion]].
* Averted with ''[[The Nightmare Before Christmas]]''. There was plans for a sequel, but [[Tim Burton]] talked to Disney and convinced them to leave the film alone and not ruin the integrity of the movie for fans. Instead we get [[Nightmare Before Christmas Oogies Revenge|a video game]] which averts [[The Problem with Licensed Games]]. Especially relieving considering the plans for the sequel would have it [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|made in CGI instead of stop-motion]].




== Films -- Live-Action ==
== Films -- Live-Action ==
* Most [[Slasher Movie|Slasher Movies]] tend to suffer this fate. At the time of writing (2012) there are eight ''[[A Nightmare On Elm Street (Film)|A Nightmare On Elm Street]]'' movies and a remake, eight ''[[Halloween (Film)|Halloween]]'' movies and a remake and a sequel to that remake, and ten ''[[Friday the 13th (Film)|Friday the 13 th]]'' movies and a remake. And that's just the names most horror fans would be familiar with. One particularly painful example: The original ''[[Sleepaway Camp]]'' was surprisingly deep for its genre, and possessed a genuinely unexpected (yet not nonsensical) [[Twist Ending]] that ''hasn't'' succumbed to [[It Was His Sled]]. The sequels, by comparison, are almost parodies of their predecessor. According to writer/director Robert Hiltzik, only the most recent sequel, ''Return To Sleepaway Camp'', is canon (he had little to nothing to do with 2 and 3).
* Most [[Slasher Movie|Slasher Movies]] tend to suffer this fate. At the time of writing (2012) there are eight ''[[A Nightmare on Elm Street]]'' movies and a remake, eight ''[[Halloween (film)|Halloween]]'' movies and a remake and a sequel to that remake, and ten ''[[Friday the 13th (film)|Friday the 13 th]]'' movies and a remake. And that's just the names most horror fans would be familiar with. One particularly painful example: The original ''[[Sleepaway Camp]]'' was surprisingly deep for its genre, and possessed a genuinely unexpected (yet not nonsensical) [[Twist Ending]] that ''hasn't'' succumbed to [[It Was His Sled]]. The sequels, by comparison, are almost parodies of their predecessor. According to writer/director Robert Hiltzik, only the most recent sequel, ''Return To Sleepaway Camp'', is canon (he had little to nothing to do with 2 and 3).
* ''[[Scream (Film)|Scream]]'' is considered a great movie. The second one is pretty awesome too. Then comes the third one... and it gives plenty of reasons to be treated as [[The Scrappy]] be the critics and the fans. The fourth one is, thankfully, pretty good again.
* ''[[Scream (film)|Scream]]'' is considered a great movie. The second one is pretty awesome too. Then comes the third one... and it gives plenty of reasons to be treated as [[The Scrappy]] be the critics and the fans. The fourth one is, thankfully, pretty good again.
* ''[[S Darko|S. Darko]]''. Despite having one actress from ''[[Donnie Darko]]'', Daveigh Chase, returning for this sequel, most ''Donnie Darko'' fans [[Fanon Discontinuity|won't even acknowledge its existence]].
* ''[[S. Darko]]''. Despite having one actress from ''[[Donnie Darko]]'', Daveigh Chase, returning for this sequel, most ''Donnie Darko'' fans [[Fanon Discontinuity|won't even acknowledge its existence]].
* The ''[[Police Academy]]'' series. The first movie was a critical and commercial success, and jumpstarted the careers of several actors who would go on to bigger projects (Steve Guttenberg, Kim Cattrall, Bobcat Goldthwait), but as the sequels progressed, the humor became increasingly lowbrow and cast members started leaving throughout the franchise. By the time the seventh and final film, ''Mission To Moscow'', was released in 1994, only a handful of original characters remained, and it failed to surpass the $200,000 mark.
* The ''[[Police Academy]]'' series. The first movie was a critical and commercial success, and jumpstarted the careers of several actors who would go on to bigger projects (Steve Guttenberg, Kim Cattrall, Bobcat Goldthwait), but as the sequels progressed, the humor became increasingly lowbrow and cast members started leaving throughout the franchise. By the time the seventh and final film, ''Mission To Moscow'', was released in 1994, only a handful of original characters remained, and it failed to surpass the $200,000 mark.
* Most [[Superhero]] film franchises follow the same formula: The first film introduces the characters and usually goes through the [[Super-Hero Origin|origin story]]. It meets with general approval. The second film, not being burdened by the need to rehash all that old stuff, is very good and is considered by many to be better than the original. The third film makes you wonder why they didn't stop at two. If a fourth film is even made, it makes the third film look like ''[[Citizen Kane (Film)|Citizen Kane]]''. Then the series is dead for several years until another sequel is made with massive [[Retcon]] (sometimes to the point of [[Re Boot]]).
* Most [[Superhero]] film franchises follow the same formula: The first film introduces the characters and usually goes through the [[Super-Hero Origin|origin story]]. It meets with general approval. The second film, not being burdened by the need to rehash all that old stuff, is very good and is considered by many to be better than the original. The third film makes you wonder why they didn't stop at two. If a fourth film is even made, it makes the third film look like ''[[Citizen Kane]]''. Then the series is dead for several years until another sequel is made with massive [[Retcon]] (sometimes to the point of [[Re Boot]]).
** [[Batman]] and [[Superman]] have taken separate paths after their fifth installments, with ''[[Batman Begins]]'' a massive success and ''[[Superman Returns]]'' a [[Contested Sequel|contested sequel]]; while the Batman series later went on to produce the [[The Dark Knight|one of the most popular movies ever]], the Superman series is now enacting what is essentially ''[[Man of Steel (Film)|another]]'' reboot.
** [[Batman]] and [[Superman]] have taken separate paths after their fifth installments, with ''[[Batman Begins]]'' a massive success and ''[[Superman Returns]]'' a [[Contested Sequel]]; while the Batman series later went on to produce the [[The Dark Knight|one of the most popular movies ever]], the Superman series is now enacting what is essentially ''[[Man of Steel|another]]'' reboot.
** ''Superman Returns'' arguably suffers from some Sequelitis, as one of the frequently-raised criticisms was that the producers didn't seem to be able to make up their minds as to whether they were actually making a continuation of the earlier film sequence, or whether they were making a completely fresh start.
** ''Superman Returns'' arguably suffers from some Sequelitis, as one of the frequently-raised criticisms was that the producers didn't seem to be able to make up their minds as to whether they were actually making a continuation of the earlier film sequence, or whether they were making a completely fresh start.
** ''[[X-Men (Film)|X-Men]]'' is a different case: two beloved movies, followed by a [[Contested Sequel]]. Since continuing after ''The Last Stand'' would be hard, they decided to make prequels instead. First was ''X-Men Origins: Wolverine'', which also divided everyone; then came ''X-Men: First Class'', but it completely [[Averted Trope|averted]] sequelitis and is now considered the best in the series since ''X2: X-Men United''; a sequel/stand-alone story to ''Wolverine'', simply titled ''The Wolverine'', is in the works, but it remains to be seen whether or not it will avert this trope.
** ''[[X-Men (film)|X-Men]]'' is a different case: two beloved movies, followed by a [[Contested Sequel]]. Since continuing after ''The Last Stand'' would be hard, they decided to make prequels instead. First was ''X-Men Origins: Wolverine'', which also divided everyone; then came ''X-Men: First Class'', but it completely [[Averted Trope|averted]] sequelitis and is now considered the best in the series since ''X2: X-Men United''; a sequel/stand-alone story to ''Wolverine'', simply titled ''The Wolverine'', is in the works, but it remains to be seen whether or not it will avert this trope.
** ''[[Iron Man (Film)|Iron Man]] 2'' is often considered good, but not as spectacular as its predecessor. Reasons for this consensus usually include feeling far too much like an advertisement for the upcoming ''[[The Avengers (Film)|Avengers]]'' movie than an Iron Man story capable of standing on its own, and loosely adapting Tony Stark's "Demon in a Bottle" arc and [[Played for Laughs|playing it for laughs]].
** ''[[Iron Man (film)|Iron Man]] 2'' is often considered good, but not as spectacular as its predecessor. Reasons for this consensus usually include feeling far too much like an advertisement for the upcoming ''[[The Avengers (film)|Avengers]]'' movie than an Iron Man story capable of standing on its own, and loosely adapting Tony Stark's "Demon in a Bottle" arc and [[Played for Laughs|playing it for laughs]].
* ''[[Scary Movie]]'' expressed the tagline, ''No mercy. No shame. No sequel'', but as we all well know, did have one anyway (with the tagline "[[I Lied|We lied]]"), which could qualify as borderline pornography. It got closer back to its roots of satirizing horror movies in the third, but then stepped back again and had that [[Tom Cruise]] couch jump parody in the fourth. Rumor has it that a fifth is on the way.
* ''[[Scary Movie]]'' expressed the tagline, ''No mercy. No shame. No sequel'', but as we all well know, did have one anyway (with the tagline "[[I Lied|We lied]]"), which could qualify as borderline pornography. It got closer back to its roots of satirizing horror movies in the third, but then stepped back again and had that [[Tom Cruise]] couch jump parody in the fourth. Rumor has it that a fifth is on the way.
** It's worth noting this is also a massive case of [[Contested Sequel]]: [[Your Mileage May Vary|depending on your sense of humor, you could easily find any one to be funnier than any other (or none of them obviously).]]
** It's worth noting this is also a massive case of [[Contested Sequel]]: [[Your Mileage May Vary|depending on your sense of humor, you could easily find any one to be funnier than any other (or none of them obviously).]]
** The spinoffs of the franchise have been even worse, starting with ''Date Movie'', billed as "from [[Seltzer and Friedberg|two]] of the six writers of ''[[Scary Movie]]''", and somehow running on to three more (so far...)
** The spinoffs of the franchise have been even worse, starting with ''Date Movie'', billed as "from [[Seltzer and Friedberg|two]] of the six writers of ''[[Scary Movie]]''", and somehow running on to three more (so far...)
* ''[[Tremors]]'': An interesting case. The first movie was basically a semi-[[Black Comedy]] with [[Kevin Bacon]]. Not having to pay Bacon's salary meant the second could afford lots more [[Stuff Blowing Up]]. The third is notable for reassembling the entire (surviving) supporting cast of the first, with no characters [[Put On a Bus]].
* ''[[Tremors]]'': An interesting case. The first movie was basically a semi-[[Black Comedy]] with [[Kevin Bacon]]. Not having to pay Bacon's salary meant the second could afford lots more [[Stuff Blowing Up]]. The third is notable for reassembling the entire (surviving) supporting cast of the first, with no characters [[Put on a Bus]].
** Each movie also has its own style. The first two are (relatively) serious monster movies with a healthy dose of comedy, the third puts more focus on comedy than seriousness, and the fourth is more serious than the first two with very little comedy.
** Each movie also has its own style. The first two are (relatively) serious monster movies with a healthy dose of comedy, the third puts more focus on comedy than seriousness, and the fourth is more serious than the first two with very little comedy.
* The ''[[American Pie]]'' series may be descending into this, as they seem to be releasing one movie a year. Now up to six films total, the latest few (''American Pie Presents'') have been direct to DVD releases... with predictable results.
* The ''[[American Pie]]'' series may be descending into this, as they seem to be releasing one movie a year. Now up to six films total, the latest few (''American Pie Presents'') have been direct to DVD releases... with predictable results.
** It's worth noting that the sole main cast member reprising a role from ''any'' of the first three movies is Eugene Levy, which is depressing in a "ordering fast food from your dad" kind of way.
** It's worth noting that the sole main cast member reprising a role from ''any'' of the first three movies is Eugene Levy, which is depressing in a "ordering fast food from your dad" kind of way.
* ''[[The Crow]]'' was a powerful, emotionally-gripping comic book, that had an equally powerful [[The Movie|film adaptation]]--with a kickass soundtrack, to boot. It had several sequels in both media, and none of them were anything close to the original, or even enjoyable. Thus, ''The Crow'' uniquely has severe Sequelitis in two media.
* ''[[The Crow]]'' was a powerful, emotionally-gripping comic book, that had an equally powerful [[The Movie|film adaptation]]--with a kickass soundtrack, to boot. It had several sequels in both media, and none of them were anything close to the original, or even enjoyable. Thus, ''The Crow'' uniquely has severe Sequelitis in two media.
** The second movie, ''City of Angels'', in particular, suffered - tortuously - from the writers attempting to take the "framework" of the original story and try to swap out the plot details, replacing the original compelling story with a particularly unsubtle morass of "IKEA Pathos." That, and apparently no one on the film team even ''noticed'' the visual aesthetic of the original, since not even the barest effort was made to retain it. Add to this wooden acting, a notable dearth of memorable lines or dialogue, an obvious, over-the-top [[Ass Pull|ass-pull]] ending, the utter absence of verisimilitude between the visual (and linguistic) environment depicted in the film and the real-life Los Angeles it was allegedly based on, and a particularly blatant [[Dropped a Bridge On Him|bridge drop]] at the end, and you have a shameful attempt at remaking - even cloning - The Crow, with essentially ''none'' of the things that made the original great. You might say the series [[Came Back Wrong|came back wrong]].
** The second movie, ''City of Angels'', in particular, suffered - tortuously - from the writers attempting to take the "framework" of the original story and try to swap out the plot details, replacing the original compelling story with a particularly unsubtle morass of "IKEA Pathos." That, and apparently no one on the film team even ''noticed'' the visual aesthetic of the original, since not even the barest effort was made to retain it. Add to this wooden acting, a notable dearth of memorable lines or dialogue, an obvious, over-the-top [[Ass Pull|ass-pull]] ending, the utter absence of verisimilitude between the visual (and linguistic) environment depicted in the film and the real-life Los Angeles it was allegedly based on, and a particularly blatant [[Dropped a Bridge on Him|bridge drop]] at the end, and you have a shameful attempt at remaking - even cloning - The Crow, with essentially ''none'' of the things that made the original great. You might say the series [[Came Back Wrong]].
* ''[[Jaws 2]]'', ''3'', ''4'', ad nauseam. Ken Begg's series of reviews chronicles the slide in quality from ''[http://www.jabootu.com/jaws.htm Jaws]'' to ''[http://www.jabootu.com/jaws2.htm Jaws 2]'' to ''[http://www.jabootu.com/jaws3-D.htm Jaws 3-D]'' to the completely awful ''[http://www.jabootu.com/jaws4.htm Jaws: The Revenge]''.
* ''[[Jaws 2]]'', ''3'', ''4'', ad nauseam. Ken Begg's series of reviews chronicles the slide in quality from ''[http://www.jabootu.com/jaws.htm Jaws]'' to ''[http://www.jabootu.com/jaws2.htm Jaws 2]'' to ''[http://www.jabootu.com/jaws3-D.htm Jaws 3-D]'' to the completely awful ''[http://www.jabootu.com/jaws4.htm Jaws: The Revenge]''.
** So much that it was mocked in ''[[Back to The Future (Film)|Back to The Future]] 2'': a ''Jaws 19'' poster can be seen during the 2015 sequence.
** So much that it was mocked in ''[[Back to the Future (film)|Back to The Future]] 2'': a ''Jaws 19'' poster can be seen during the 2015 sequence.
* With a title like ''[[The Neverending Story (Film)|The Neverending Story]]'', one would expect the movie to have at least a few sequels or follow-ups. The first movie is a very nice fantasy film; the second movie is not ''as'' good as the first one (with a dramatic drop in production values), but still watchable, at least compared to the third movie, which [[Overtook the Series|had to invent a plot out of whole cloth]] and ended up with a lot of cringe-worthy sitcom-style humor.
* With a title like ''[[The Neverending Story (film)|The Neverending Story]]'', one would expect the movie to have at least a few sequels or follow-ups. The first movie is a very nice fantasy film; the second movie is not ''as'' good as the first one (with a dramatic drop in production values), but still watchable, at least compared to the third movie, which [[Overtook the Series|had to invent a plot out of whole cloth]] and ended up with a lot of cringe-worthy sitcom-style humor.
* The first ''[[Weekend At Bernies (Film)|Weekend At Bernies]]'' is a amusing little comedy, with Terry Kiser [[Ensemble Darkhorse|stealing the show]] as the titular dead guy. Then they went and made a sequel. The female character one of the heroes spent the entire first movie obsessing over/wooing vanishes without even the most cursory attempt at [[Hand Wave|Handwaving]], and it was all downhill from there.
* The first ''[[Weekend at Bernies]]'' is a amusing little comedy, with Terry Kiser [[Ensemble Darkhorse|stealing the show]] as the titular dead guy. Then they went and made a sequel. The female character one of the heroes spent the entire first movie obsessing over/wooing vanishes without even the most cursory attempt at [[Hand Wave|Handwaving]], and it was all downhill from there.
** Of course, [[Your Mileage May Vary]]. Some viewers felt that ''[[Film/Weekend At Bernie|Weekend At Bernie]]'s 2'' pulled off the rare feat of being so unbelievably stupid that it came back around the other side and was [[Actually Pretty Funny]].
** Of course, [[Your Mileage May Vary]]. Some viewers felt that ''[[Film/Weekend At Bernie|Weekend At Bernie]]'s 2'' pulled off the rare feat of being so unbelievably stupid that it came back around the other side and was [[Actually Pretty Funny]].
* Opinions are divided over whether ''The Lost World: [[Jurassic Park]]'' or ''Jurassic Park 3'' is worse, although the latter usually wins out in such arguments. Neither of them holds a candle to the original, despite several actors [[Money, Dear Boy|inexplicably]] agreeing to reprise their roles.
* Opinions are divided over whether ''The Lost World: [[Jurassic Park]]'' or ''Jurassic Park 3'' is worse, although the latter usually wins out in such arguments. Neither of them holds a candle to the original, despite several actors [[Money, Dear Boy|inexplicably]] agreeing to reprise their roles.
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* ''[[Ghostbusters|Ghostbusters 2]]'' fell victim to this, as the plot reads like [[Recycled Script|a Mad Lib rewrite of the first movie]]: An ancient (god/warlock) is resurrected in modern New York, possesses Dana Barret's nebbish (neighbor/boss), and needs (her/her baby) as part of its plot to destroy New York. She gradually falls for Peter's quirky charm, while the rest of the Ghostbusters try to convince the skeptical mayor and a sleazy (EPA agent/mayoral aide) that the world's in danger, until the big finale has the heroes facing off with the (god/warlock) in a gothic (skyscraper/library) now overrun by evil, while a giant walking mascot (terrorizes/saves) the city by stepping on things. It's all made even more implausible given how easily all the world-changing events of the first movie seem to have been [[Weirdness Censor|swept under the rug]], and the end result was so lackluster, both critically and financially, that the director and other three stars were completely turned off from [[Dan Aykroyd]]'s plans for a third movie.
* ''[[Ghostbusters|Ghostbusters 2]]'' fell victim to this, as the plot reads like [[Recycled Script|a Mad Lib rewrite of the first movie]]: An ancient (god/warlock) is resurrected in modern New York, possesses Dana Barret's nebbish (neighbor/boss), and needs (her/her baby) as part of its plot to destroy New York. She gradually falls for Peter's quirky charm, while the rest of the Ghostbusters try to convince the skeptical mayor and a sleazy (EPA agent/mayoral aide) that the world's in danger, until the big finale has the heroes facing off with the (god/warlock) in a gothic (skyscraper/library) now overrun by evil, while a giant walking mascot (terrorizes/saves) the city by stepping on things. It's all made even more implausible given how easily all the world-changing events of the first movie seem to have been [[Weirdness Censor|swept under the rug]], and the end result was so lackluster, both critically and financially, that the director and other three stars were completely turned off from [[Dan Aykroyd]]'s plans for a third movie.
** Atari released a ''Ghostbusters'' video game that reunited the cast and acts as the third story. So far it's been well received. It expands on things from the first movie, provides closure on the Librarian ghost and explains where the mood slime from GB2 came from. The experience was so good that an actual ''Ghostbusters 3'' is in the works.
** Atari released a ''Ghostbusters'' video game that reunited the cast and acts as the third story. So far it's been well received. It expands on things from the first movie, provides closure on the Librarian ghost and explains where the mood slime from GB2 came from. The experience was so good that an actual ''Ghostbusters 3'' is in the works.
* The ''[[Rocky (Film)|Rocky]]'' series had one of the longest cases of Sequelitis ever. The series started out gritty and realistic, but gradually became more over-the-top to the point where the first movie won an Oscar for best picture and the fifth, after a drawn-out decline, is generally regarded as terrible. After a 16-year [[Sequel Gap]], a sixth entry was made, and successfully took the series back to its roots, as well as providing closure to Rocky's career.
* The ''[[Rocky (film)|Rocky]]'' series had one of the longest cases of Sequelitis ever. The series started out gritty and realistic, but gradually became more over-the-top to the point where the first movie won an Oscar for best picture and the fifth, after a drawn-out decline, is generally regarded as terrible. After a 16-year [[Sequel Gap]], a sixth entry was made, and successfully took the series back to its roots, as well as providing closure to Rocky's career.
* The ''[[Austin Powers]]'' series, once it became insanely popular (i.e. by the first sequel), started becoming a caricature of the first movie, with its taking [[Refuge in Vulgarity]] and especially their tendency to take gags that were most memorable from the previous movie and [[The Same but More|exaggerating them]] in the next. The first was intended to be an [[Affectionate Parody]] of the movies Mike Myers used to watch with his father. After the first became a cultural phenomenon on home video, more writers were brought in to create something [[Denser and Wackier]]. By the time the third movie came around, the series was repeatedly breaking the [[Fourth Wall]] and just generally making a mockery of itself. Still, some fans regret that the token [[Character Development]] Austin went through in the first movie [[Aesop Amnesia|had to be systematically scrapped]] for the sequels to work.
* The ''[[Austin Powers]]'' series, once it became insanely popular (i.e. by the first sequel), started becoming a caricature of the first movie, with its taking [[Refuge in Vulgarity]] and especially their tendency to take gags that were most memorable from the previous movie and [[The Same but More|exaggerating them]] in the next. The first was intended to be an [[Affectionate Parody]] of the movies Mike Myers used to watch with his father. After the first became a cultural phenomenon on home video, more writers were brought in to create something [[Denser and Wackier]]. By the time the third movie came around, the series was repeatedly breaking the [[Fourth Wall]] and just generally making a mockery of itself. Still, some fans regret that the token [[Character Development]] Austin went through in the first movie [[Aesop Amnesia|had to be systematically scrapped]] for the sequels to work.
* Lampshaded twice in ''[[Die Hard 2]]: Die Harder'': ''"Another basement, another elevator--how can the same shit happen to the same guy twice?"''
* Lampshaded twice in ''[[Die Hard 2]]: Die Harder'': ''"Another basement, another elevator--how can the same shit happen to the same guy twice?"''
** Of course, by this point, the ''Die Hard'' franchise has succumbed anyway. Each film is slightly less believable than the one which preceded it. This has resulted in John McClane being [[Made of Iron]] by ''Die Hard 4'', and nobody ever bleeding, despite the original's highly praised realism. (though the [[Bowdlerize|decision to lower to PG-13]] is to blame for the [[Bloodless Carnage]]) And of course the plot is as convoluted as in the campier Bond films, as well as the marriage he was trying to save in the first film getting only a cursory mention (as being long over).
** Of course, by this point, the ''Die Hard'' franchise has succumbed anyway. Each film is slightly less believable than the one which preceded it. This has resulted in John McClane being [[Made of Iron]] by ''Die Hard 4'', and nobody ever bleeding, despite the original's highly praised realism. (though the [[Bowdlerize|decision to lower to PG-13]] is to blame for the [[Bloodless Carnage]]) And of course the plot is as convoluted as in the campier Bond films, as well as the marriage he was trying to save in the first film getting only a cursory mention (as being long over).
*** Though no ''Die Hard'' movie is truly hated by the fans - only the fourth movie enters [[Contested Sequel]] status for being the apex of [[Serial Escalation]].
*** Though no ''Die Hard'' movie is truly hated by the fans - only the fourth movie enters [[Contested Sequel]] status for being the apex of [[Serial Escalation]].
* ''[[Friday (Film)|Friday]]'' was a great comedy with good performances from Ice Cube as Craig and Chris Tucker as Smokey, the latter of whom is widely thought to be the funniest part of the film. A sequel, ''Next Friday'', was released in 2000 and is generally considered inferior - mainly due to the lack of Smokey (Tucker had chosen to do ''[[Rush Hour]]'' instead and had become a born-again Christian after making ''Money Talks''), who was replaced by Mike Epps as Day-Day - but the movie still has its defenders. 2002's ''Friday After Next'', however, has been almost universally panned.
* ''[[Friday (film)|Friday]]'' was a great comedy with good performances from Ice Cube as Craig and Chris Tucker as Smokey, the latter of whom is widely thought to be the funniest part of the film. A sequel, ''Next Friday'', was released in 2000 and is generally considered inferior - mainly due to the lack of Smokey (Tucker had chosen to do ''[[Rush Hour]]'' instead and had become a born-again Christian after making ''Money Talks''), who was replaced by Mike Epps as Day-Day - but the movie still has its defenders. 2002's ''Friday After Next'', however, has been almost universally panned.
* The first ''[[Return of the Living Dead]]'' is an almost perfect mix of black comedy and horror and is also a [[Deconstruction]] and/or [[Affectionate Parody]] of the Romero's "Dead" series. It's a [[Cult Classic]].
* The first ''[[Return of the Living Dead]]'' is an almost perfect mix of black comedy and horror and is also a [[Deconstruction]] and/or [[Affectionate Parody]] of the Romero's "Dead" series. It's a [[Cult Classic]].
** The second uses a lot more comedy than the first making which makes it less scary.
** The second uses a lot more comedy than the first making which makes it less scary.
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* The ''[[Godzilla]]'' films often fall under this considering there are [[Long Runner|27 sequels]] to the original Japanese film and one remake. The first film is regarded as a classic and a few sequels are beloved by the fans. However, many films (Especially the ones made in the 1960s-1970s) are considered to be [[So Bad It's Good]].
* The ''[[Godzilla]]'' films often fall under this considering there are [[Long Runner|27 sequels]] to the original Japanese film and one remake. The first film is regarded as a classic and a few sequels are beloved by the fans. However, many films (Especially the ones made in the 1960s-1970s) are considered to be [[So Bad It's Good]].
* Two trivia questions. '''1.''' How many sequels to [[Jim Carrey]] movies has Jim Carrey appeared in? (Answer: 1 - ''[[Ace Ventura]]: When Nature Calls''.) '''2.''' How many sequels to Jim Carrey movies has he ''not'' appeared in? (Answer: 4 - ''[[Son of the Mask]]'', ''[[Dumb and Dumber|Dumb And Dumberer]]'', ''[[Evan Almighty]]'' and ''Ace Ventura Jr.''.)
* Two trivia questions. '''1.''' How many sequels to [[Jim Carrey]] movies has Jim Carrey appeared in? (Answer: 1 - ''[[Ace Ventura]]: When Nature Calls''.) '''2.''' How many sequels to Jim Carrey movies has he ''not'' appeared in? (Answer: 4 - ''[[Son of the Mask]]'', ''[[Dumb and Dumber|Dumb And Dumberer]]'', ''[[Evan Almighty]]'' and ''Ace Ventura Jr.''.)
** Jim Carrey so thoroughly detested working on ''When Nature Calls'' that he declared that he would never do a sequel ever again. (As for ''[[Batman Forever (Film)|Batman Forever]]'', that predated the ''Ace Ventura'' sequel and didn't follow on from one of his films.)
** Jim Carrey so thoroughly detested working on ''When Nature Calls'' that he declared that he would never do a sequel ever again. (As for ''[[Batman Forever]]'', that predated the ''Ace Ventura'' sequel and didn't follow on from one of his films.)
** Well, he entered [[A Series of Unfortunate Events|one movie]] because it would be a series he'd enjoy doing... but [[Development Hell|it'll be hard to have a sequel]].
** Well, he entered [[A Series of Unfortunate Events|one movie]] because it would be a series he'd enjoy doing... but [[Development Hell|it'll be hard to have a sequel]].
** [http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/showbiz/movies/dumb-dumber-2-farrelly-carrey-ew/index.html Carrey's breaking his no-sequels rule to make an actual Dumb and Dumber 2].
** [http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/showbiz/movies/dumb-dumber-2-farrelly-carrey-ew/index.html Carrey's breaking his no-sequels rule to make an actual Dumb and Dumber 2].
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** To be fair, [[The Fly]] was a remake of an older movie called [[The Fly]], which had a sequel about the son of the titular Fly, so they apparently decided to remake the movie and its sequel. Though, in the original sequel the son was normal till he rebuilt the teleporter and went in with a fly again (sometime before the man who ended up part hamster) rather than being born quite strange. Nevertheless, the remake had a rather similar revenge story to it.
** To be fair, [[The Fly]] was a remake of an older movie called [[The Fly]], which had a sequel about the son of the titular Fly, so they apparently decided to remake the movie and its sequel. Though, in the original sequel the son was normal till he rebuilt the teleporter and went in with a fly again (sometime before the man who ended up part hamster) rather than being born quite strange. Nevertheless, the remake had a rather similar revenge story to it.
* The ''[[Scanners]]'' franchise. The original film was a landmark in sci-fi horror, and had David Cronenberg and [[Michael Ironside]] doing some of their best work...but then came a pair of [[Direct to Video]] sequels that stopped going for shock value and settled on B-movie cheese focusing on various scanners' unsuccessful attempts to start a revolution, backed by shoddy effects and weak performances by the main cast. This later produced a spinoff series, ''Scanner Cop'', which also went DTV and just had more of the same.
* The ''[[Scanners]]'' franchise. The original film was a landmark in sci-fi horror, and had David Cronenberg and [[Michael Ironside]] doing some of their best work...but then came a pair of [[Direct to Video]] sequels that stopped going for shock value and settled on B-movie cheese focusing on various scanners' unsuccessful attempts to start a revolution, backed by shoddy effects and weak performances by the main cast. This later produced a spinoff series, ''Scanner Cop'', which also went DTV and just had more of the same.
* Just ask ''[[Highlander (Franchise)|Highlander]]'' fans about the sequels, and you'll be told, "There '''should have been''' only one!"
* Just ask ''[[Highlander]]'' fans about the sequels, and you'll be told, "There '''should have been''' only one!"
* The ''[[Pink Panther]]'' movies escalated the slapstick comedy, wacky disguises, and whatnot quite a bit in the 1970s entries, even bringing in science fiction elements in ''The Pink Panther Strikes Again''. There were also new female leads in each entry, whether they became Inspector Clouseau's love interest or not. The series also hit [[Franchise Zombie]] status with ''Revenge of...'', which United Artists commissioned for summer 1978. Still, they were all hits -- the franchise jumped the rails in [[The Eighties]] when director-writer-producer Blake Edwards attempted to continue the series in spite of the death of [[Peter Sellers]], who played Clouseau. It turned out that without [[Just Here for Godzilla|Sellers]], people weren't interested in more of the same hijinks.
* The ''[[Pink Panther]]'' movies escalated the slapstick comedy, wacky disguises, and whatnot quite a bit in the 1970s entries, even bringing in science fiction elements in ''The Pink Panther Strikes Again''. There were also new female leads in each entry, whether they became Inspector Clouseau's love interest or not. The series also hit [[Franchise Zombie]] status with ''Revenge of...'', which United Artists commissioned for summer 1978. Still, they were all hits -- the franchise jumped the rails in [[The Eighties]] when director-writer-producer Blake Edwards attempted to continue the series in spite of the death of [[Peter Sellers]], who played Clouseau. It turned out that without [[Just Here for Godzilla|Sellers]], people weren't interested in more of the same hijinks.
* ''[[Robo Cop]]'' (and its sequel, ''Robocop 2'') were violent, edgy and full of satire on mid-[[The Eighties|80's]] corporate culture. While the second film was derided for focusing too much on shock value and having less of the satirical humor, the franchise was still doing pretty well for itself (an animated series was created during this time, and the films performed very well at the box office). Unfortunately, studio executives (likely smelling [[Merchandise-Driven|several marketing opportunities]]) toned down the violence in the third film, ''Robocop 3'', to appeal to younger viewers. While there were some elements that remained from the previous films (Basil Poledouris' score, a return to the silver armor from the first film, most of the [[Anyone Can Die|surviving cast members]] returning and some of the satire), the end result was too juvenile for most audiences, and the film bombed both financially and critically. Although there were attempts to resurrect the franchise over the years (a mid-90's Canadian-made TV series bombed after one season, a late-90's [[Animated Adaptation|cartoon]] was...critically panned and a miniseries ([[California Doubling|also filmed in Canada]]) was made-for-TV), it never really flew with audiences. Various attempts to get a franchise reboot have been unsuccessful - part of this stems from the fact that the main character is indelibly linked with 80's culture.
* ''[[RoboCop]]'' (and its sequel, ''Robocop 2'') were violent, edgy and full of satire on mid-[[The Eighties|80's]] corporate culture. While the second film was derided for focusing too much on shock value and having less of the satirical humor, the franchise was still doing pretty well for itself (an animated series was created during this time, and the films performed very well at the box office). Unfortunately, studio executives (likely smelling [[Merchandise-Driven|several marketing opportunities]]) toned down the violence in the third film, ''Robocop 3'', to appeal to younger viewers. While there were some elements that remained from the previous films (Basil Poledouris' score, a return to the silver armor from the first film, most of the [[Anyone Can Die|surviving cast members]] returning and some of the satire), the end result was too juvenile for most audiences, and the film bombed both financially and critically. Although there were attempts to resurrect the franchise over the years (a mid-90's Canadian-made TV series bombed after one season, a late-90's [[Animated Adaptation|cartoon]] was...critically panned and a miniseries ([[California Doubling|also filmed in Canada]]) was made-for-TV), it never really flew with audiences. Various attempts to get a franchise reboot have been unsuccessful - part of this stems from the fact that the main character is indelibly linked with 80's culture.
* ''[[Interview With the Vampire]]'' vs. ''[[Queen of the Damned]]''. Case closed.
* ''[[Interview with the Vampire]]'' vs. ''[[Queen of the Damned]]''. Case closed.
** A somewhat interesting case, actually. The two movies were made over ten years apart, with completely different studios, directors, and actors. The themes and tones of the movies were vastly different, and no references were made to characters or plots from the first film, but it was explicitly set afterwards. Both movies being relatively self-contained, [[Qot D]] was less of a sequel and more like the closest thing to a [[Continuity Reboot]] without actually doing so.
** A somewhat interesting case, actually. The two movies were made over ten years apart, with completely different studios, directors, and actors. The themes and tones of the movies were vastly different, and no references were made to characters or plots from the first film, but it was explicitly set afterwards. Both movies being relatively self-contained, [[Qot D]] was less of a sequel and more like the closest thing to a [[Continuity Reboot]] without actually doing so.
* ''[[Grease]]'' is a hugely popular [[The Fifties|50s nostalgia]] musical funfest. ''[[Grease 2]]'' has only a few characters returning from the original (Frenchie, Eugene, the principal and her assistant, and the coach. All brief roles.) and introduces Sandy's cousin Michael in some weak attempt to connect the two movies. The plot is basically a [[Gender Flip]] of the first movie's plot and the results are... well, let's just say [[Fanon Discontinuity|most Grease fans like to pretend it doesn't exist]].
* ''[[Grease]]'' is a hugely popular [[The Fifties|50s nostalgia]] musical funfest. ''[[Grease 2]]'' has only a few characters returning from the original (Frenchie, Eugene, the principal and her assistant, and the coach. All brief roles.) and introduces Sandy's cousin Michael in some weak attempt to connect the two movies. The plot is basically a [[Gender Flip]] of the first movie's plot and the results are... well, let's just say [[Fanon Discontinuity|most Grease fans like to pretend it doesn't exist]].
** Incidentally, ''[[Grease 2]]'' unwittingly stopped the franchise from experiencing what would likely be more sequelitis. There were plans for two more movies and a TV series, but they were scrapped after ''[[Grease 2]]'' was a flop.
** Incidentally, ''[[Grease 2]]'' unwittingly stopped the franchise from experiencing what would likely be more sequelitis. There were plans for two more movies and a TV series, but they were scrapped after ''[[Grease 2]]'' was a flop.
* ''[[Saw]]'' fans debate whether the series has suffered from [[Sequelitis]], and if so, at what point. This argument is closely tied to the one over Jigsaw's successors.<br /><br />Some fans believe that the series should've stopped at the third movie, which acted as a solid conclusion to what had been until then a trilogy. Others feel that the fourth movie was still good, but that the fifth was the series' [[Jumping the Shark|jump-the-shark]] moment. Oddly enough, even they usually agree that the sixth film was a surprising improvement over the fifth. Opinion on the seventh (and final) film is too wildly varied to pin down any fan consensus. A few believe that there shouldn't have been any sequels, or that only the second film counts as a proper continuation.
* ''[[Saw]]'' fans debate whether the series has suffered from [[Sequelitis]], and if so, at what point. This argument is closely tied to the one over Jigsaw's successors.<br /><br />Some fans believe that the series should've stopped at the third movie, which acted as a solid conclusion to what had been until then a trilogy. Others feel that the fourth movie was still good, but that the fifth was the series' [[Jumping the Shark|jump-the-shark]] moment. Oddly enough, even they usually agree that the sixth film was a surprising improvement over the fifth. Opinion on the seventh (and final) film is too wildly varied to pin down any fan consensus. A few believe that there shouldn't have been any sequels, or that only the second film counts as a proper continuation.
* The ''[[Ju On]]''/''[[The Grudge]]'' film series, which began life as a Takashi Shimizu's V-Cinema TV special but is now up to a second special (which recycled most of the first,) two theatrical Japanese films, two Japanese shorts, an American remake, and two American sequels. Special honors to the first American film because it reenacted, almost scene-for-scene in some cases, the exact same plot as the first Japanese theatrical movie, though somehow keeps the main star/character ([[Sarah Michelle Geller]]) alive through the end.
* The ''[[Juon]]''/''[[The Grudge]]'' film series, which began life as a Takashi Shimizu's V-Cinema TV special but is now up to a second special (which recycled most of the first,) two theatrical Japanese films, two Japanese shorts, an American remake, and two American sequels. Special honors to the first American film because it reenacted, almost scene-for-scene in some cases, the exact same plot as the first Japanese theatrical movie, though somehow keeps the main star/character ([[Sarah Michelle Geller]]) alive through the end.
* Similarly, the ''[[The Ring]]'' franchise has suffered from this. While each of the three "original" films has been well-received (Japanese, American, and Korean, respectively,) their sequels have met with various degrees of scorn and failure to the point that the very first sequel, a film adaptation of the novel's follow-up ''Spiral'', is [[Adaptation Decay|so bad]] it's considered [[Canon Dis Continuity]] by the Japanese producers, who went on to make ''The Ring 2'' instead.
* Similarly, the ''[[The Ring]]'' franchise has suffered from this. While each of the three "original" films has been well-received (Japanese, American, and Korean, respectively,) their sequels have met with various degrees of scorn and failure to the point that the very first sequel, a film adaptation of the novel's follow-up ''Spiral'', is [[Adaptation Decay|so bad]] it's considered [[Canon Dis Continuity]] by the Japanese producers, who went on to make ''The Ring 2'' instead.
* The original ''[[Species]]'' was a decent (if not spectacular) sci-fi horror film that had Natasha Henstridge running around (mostly naked, to boot) while a team of scientists tried to stop her. A sequel was inexplicably made five years later that combined a nonsensical plot (the scientists clone the original alien, then act shocked when she escapes to mate with another member of her species), cheesy effects and a cast that appeared to be going through the motions, and the following TV movie, ''[[Species]] III'', was made by filmmakers who thought the entire franchise was composed of gratuitous violence and sex. The fourth film, ''The Awakening'', seems to be an odd inversion, however - most viewers seem to regard it as a decent B-movie.
* The original ''[[Species]]'' was a decent (if not spectacular) sci-fi horror film that had Natasha Henstridge running around (mostly naked, to boot) while a team of scientists tried to stop her. A sequel was inexplicably made five years later that combined a nonsensical plot (the scientists clone the original alien, then act shocked when she escapes to mate with another member of her species), cheesy effects and a cast that appeared to be going through the motions, and the following TV movie, ''[[Species]] III'', was made by filmmakers who thought the entire franchise was composed of gratuitous violence and sex. The fourth film, ''The Awakening'', seems to be an odd inversion, however - most viewers seem to regard it as a decent B-movie.
* ''[[Terminator]]'': The first was iconic. The second, one of the [[Even Better Sequel|single greatest sequels of all time]]. The third was a [[Base Breaker]], and resulted in an entire [[The Sarah Connor Chronicles|TV series]] being made on the principle that T3 [[Alternate Continuity|never happened]]. The fourth, while visually impressive, lacked substance and ended up being an underperformer at the box office, which then led to the death of its production company and the rights being sold off. Although [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] has signed on for a fifth film (which is delayed while he sorts out his marital issues), the future of the franchise is anyone's guess.
* ''[[Terminator]]'': The first was iconic. The second, one of the [[Even Better Sequel|single greatest sequels of all time]]. The third was a [[Base Breaker]], and resulted in an entire [[The Sarah Connor Chronicles|TV series]] being made on the principle that T3 [[Alternate Continuity|never happened]]. The fourth, while visually impressive, lacked substance and ended up being an underperformer at the box office, which then led to the death of its production company and the rights being sold off. Although [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] has signed on for a fifth film (which is delayed while he sorts out his marital issues), the future of the franchise is anyone's guess.
* A few [[James Bond (Film)|James Bond]] films suffered from this, specially ''[[You Only Live Twice (Film)|You Only Live Twice]]'' (the [[Strictly Formula|formula]] is starting to age), ''[[Diamonds Are Forever (Film)|Diamonds Are Forever]]'', ''[[The Man With the Golden Gun (Film)|The Man With the Golden Gun]]'', ''[[Moonraker (Film)|Moonraker]]'' (all three for being overtly stupid), ''[[A View to A Kill (Film)|A View to A Kill]]'' (Bond is too old, girl is annoying, plot is a rehash), and ''[[Die Another Day (Film)|Die Another Day]]'' (silliness, dodgy special effects).
* A few [[James Bond (film)|James Bond]] films suffered from this, specially ''[[You Only Live Twice]]'' (the [[Strictly Formula|formula]] is starting to age), ''[[Diamonds Are Forever]]'', ''[[The Man with the Golden Gun]]'', ''[[Moonraker]]'' (all three for being overtly stupid), ''[[A View to a Kill]]'' (Bond is too old, girl is annoying, plot is a rehash), and ''[[Die Another Day]]'' (silliness, dodgy special effects).
* ''[[Star Trek (Franchise)|Star Trek]]'' has the "odd-number curse" - [[Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Film)|the first]] (which can be considered a sequel to [[Star Trek the Original Series (TV)|the series]]), [[Star Trek III the Search For Spock (Film)|third]] (This one in actually alright, but still not as good as 2), [[Star Trek V the Final Frontier (Film)|fifth]], [[Star Trek Generations (Film)|seventh]] and [[Star Trek Insurrection (Film)|ninth]] films are considered letdowns. It was broken when the [[Star Trek Nemesis (Film)|tenth]] was a disappointment, leading to a [[Star Trek (Film)|wildly successful reboot]] (though [http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/mwop/moviefile/2009/05/galaxy-quest-best-star-trek-mo.php some try] to make the curse still work by considering the [[Affectionate Parody]] ''[[Galaxy Quest (Film)|Galaxy Quest]]'' the tenth movie)
* ''[[Star Trek]]'' has the "odd-number curse" - [[Star Trek: The Motion Picture|the first]] (which can be considered a sequel to [[Star Trek: The Original Series|the series]]), [[Star Trek III: The Search For Spock|third]] (This one in actually alright, but still not as good as 2), [[Star Trek V: The Final Frontier|fifth]], [[Star Trek Generations|seventh]] and [[Star Trek: Insurrection|ninth]] films are considered letdowns. It was broken when the [[Star Trek Nemesis|tenth]] was a disappointment, leading to a [[Star Trek (film)|wildly successful reboot]] (though [http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/mwop/moviefile/2009/05/galaxy-quest-best-star-trek-mo.php some try] to make the curse still work by considering the [[Affectionate Parody]] ''[[Galaxy Quest]]'' the tenth movie)
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** See Television below.
* ''[[Get Shorty|Be Cool]]''. The sequel to ''[[Get Shorty]]'' was loosely based on the novel that was the sequel to the novel ''[[Get Shorty]]'', but was so crammed full of [[Actor Allusion|actor allusions]], [[The Cameo|cameos]] and industry in-jokes (for both film and music) that it had none of the spark of the first movie.
* ''[[Get Shorty|Be Cool]]''. The sequel to ''[[Get Shorty]]'' was loosely based on the novel that was the sequel to the novel ''[[Get Shorty]]'', but was so crammed full of [[Actor Allusion|actor allusions]], [[The Cameo|cameos]] and industry in-jokes (for both film and music) that it had none of the spark of the first movie.
* The sequel to ''[[Miss Congeniality]]'' arguably suffers from sequelitis, as many a fan (girl) was probably very disappointed that the second film did not see the return of {{spoiler|Benjamin Bratt as Eric Matthews.}}
* The sequel to ''[[Miss Congeniality]]'' arguably suffers from sequelitis, as many a fan (girl) was probably very disappointed that the second film did not see the return of {{spoiler|Benjamin Bratt as Eric Matthews.}}
* Averted in the ''[[Mad Max]]'' series. ''[[Mad Max]]'' was a very well-received, if slightly Aussie-indie revenge tale. The first sequel, ''Mad Max 2: [[The Road Warrior]]'' not only defined the post-apocalyptic genre but is universally hailed as one of the best movies from the 80s. It's even one of just a handful of movies that, as of this writing, holds a 100% Fresh rating on [[Rotten Tomatoes]]. The second sequel, ''Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome'' was nowhere near as good (and had Tina Turner's infamous hair), but still a solid movie. A third (and fourth!) sequel, ''Fury Road'' and ''Furasia'' have been greenlit after years of [[Development Hell]], with [[Inception|Tom Hardy]] playing the lead character.
* Averted in the ''[[Mad Max]]'' series. ''[[Mad Max]]'' was a very well-received, if slightly Aussie-indie revenge tale. The first sequel, ''Mad Max 2: [[The Road Warrior]]'' not only defined the post-apocalyptic genre but is universally hailed as one of the best movies from the 80s. It's even one of just a handful of movies that, as of this writing, holds a 100% Fresh rating on [[Rotten Tomatoes]]. The second sequel, ''Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome'' was nowhere near as good (and had Tina Turner's infamous hair), but still a solid movie. A third (and fourth!) sequel, ''Fury Road'' and ''Furasia'' have been greenlit after years of [[Development Hell]], with [[Inception|Tom Hardy]] playing the lead character.
* ''[[Carrie]]'' is considered one of the landmark horror films of [[The Seventies]], and its success helped to establish [[Stephen King]], the writer of the book it was based on, as one of the biggest names in horror literature. Twenty-three years later comes ''[[The Rage Carrie 2|The Rage: Carrie 2]]'', a film that, while most definitely enjoyable in a certain way, fails to hold a candle to the original, and was a box office disappointment. Part of this may stem from the fact that ''The Rage'' was [[Dolled-Up Installment|originally written as a separate film]] called ''The Curse'', and was turned into a ''Carrie'' sequel presumably after somebody saw [[Follow the Leader|the obvious similarities]] between the two films.
* ''[[Carrie]]'' is considered one of the landmark horror films of [[The Seventies]], and its success helped to establish [[Stephen King]], the writer of the book it was based on, as one of the biggest names in horror literature. Twenty-three years later comes ''[[The Rage: Carrie 2]]'', a film that, while most definitely enjoyable in a certain way, fails to hold a candle to the original, and was a box office disappointment. Part of this may stem from the fact that ''The Rage'' was [[Dolled-Up Installment|originally written as a separate film]] called ''The Curse'', and was turned into a ''Carrie'' sequel presumably after somebody saw [[Follow the Leader|the obvious similarities]] between the two films.
* Both the original ''[[King Kong]]'' and the 1976 remake were followed by forgettable sequels (''The Son of Kong'' and ''King Kong Lives'', respectively).
* Both the original ''[[King Kong]]'' and the 1976 remake were followed by forgettable sequels (''The Son of Kong'' and ''King Kong Lives'', respectively).
* The original ''[[Children of the Corn]]'' film has suffered from a attack of Sequelitis, spawning six sequels - ''The Final Sacrifice, Urban Harvest, The Gathering, Fields of Terror, 666: Isaac's Return'' and ''Revelation''. Oh, cliched titles, how we love you so.
* The original ''[[Children of the Corn]]'' film has suffered from a attack of Sequelitis, spawning six sequels - ''The Final Sacrifice, Urban Harvest, The Gathering, Fields of Terror, 666: Isaac's Return'' and ''Revelation''. Oh, cliched titles, how we love you so.
** Both ''[[The Amityville Horror]]'' and ''[[The Howling]]'', which also started out as literary works, also had an unusually high number of sequels, most of them direct-to-video. With ''Amityville'', it also extended to the book series, which eventually became pure fiction, and got progressively weirder and surreal.
** Both ''[[The Amityville Horror]]'' and ''[[The Howling]]'', which also started out as literary works, also had an unusually high number of sequels, most of them direct-to-video. With ''Amityville'', it also extended to the book series, which eventually became pure fiction, and got progressively weirder and surreal.
* The first two ''[[Hellraiser (Film)|Hellraiser]]'' films are usually seen as pretty good, while the third is often looked down upon for being more "[[It's Popular, Now It Sucks|mainstream]]" and [[Slasher Movie|slashery]]. The fourth tried returning to the series roots, but suffered severely from [[Executive Meddling]], resulting in an extreme case of [[What Could Have Been]]. [[Your Mileage May Vary|Mileage tends to vary]] on the direct-to-video films (which often seem to suffer from [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]) though ''Hellworld'' seems to be the only near-universally disliked one (consensus saying it could've been a decent standalone film, but as a ''Hellraiser'' film, it falls flat).
* The first two ''[[Hellraiser]]'' films are usually seen as pretty good, while the third is often looked down upon for being more "[[It's Popular, Now It Sucks|mainstream]]" and [[Slasher Movie|slashery]]. The fourth tried returning to the series roots, but suffered severely from [[Executive Meddling]], resulting in an extreme case of [[What Could Have Been]]. [[Your Mileage May Vary|Mileage tends to vary]] on the direct-to-video films (which often seem to suffer from [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]) though ''Hellworld'' seems to be the only near-universally disliked one (consensus saying it could've been a decent standalone film, but as a ''Hellraiser'' film, it falls flat).
* The first ''[[Lethal Weapon (Film)|Lethal Weapon]]'' is generally considered the best, despite making far less at the box office than its sequels. ''[[Lethal Weapon 2]]'' lacked some of the tension, but traded it in for a lot of gags making it funnier. The [[Lethal Weapon 3|third one]] seemed to get a little more tired and the [[Lethal Weapon 4|fourth one]] gives us fake-looking sharks, [[Anvilicious]] (and hypocritical) political sentiments and a sympathy-pouch-wearing Renne Russo who's supposed to be 9-months pregnant yet able to fight martial-arts trained mooks.
* The first ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' is generally considered the best, despite making far less at the box office than its sequels. ''[[Lethal Weapon 2]]'' lacked some of the tension, but traded it in for a lot of gags making it funnier. The [[Lethal Weapon 3|third one]] seemed to get a little more tired and the [[Lethal Weapon 4|fourth one]] gives us fake-looking sharks, [[Anvilicious]] (and hypocritical) political sentiments and a sympathy-pouch-wearing Renne Russo who's supposed to be 9-months pregnant yet able to fight martial-arts trained mooks.
* ''[[Oh God]]'' is generally remembered as a quirky little Carl Reiner comedy, while the next two movies are ignored almost to the point of being [[Fanon Discontinuity]]. The changes in creators definitely didn't help.
* ''[[Oh, God!]]'' is generally remembered as a quirky little Carl Reiner comedy, while the next two movies are ignored almost to the point of being [[Fanon Discontinuity]]. The changes in creators definitely didn't help.
* ''[[Caddyshack]] II''. Chevy Chase was the only star returning for the sequel, which lost all of what made the first movie funny.
* ''[[Caddyshack]] II''. Chevy Chase was the only star returning for the sequel, which lost all of what made the first movie funny.
* The first ''[[Speed (Film)|Speed]]'' movie was a huge commercial and critical success. The sequel was almost universally panned while barely avoided being a box-office flop.
* The first ''[[Speed]]'' movie was a huge commercial and critical success. The sequel was almost universally panned while barely avoided being a box-office flop.
* Shortly after Diane Thomas agreed to write a sequel to her first screenplay ''[[Romancing the Stone]]'', she was killed in a car crash. The studio went ahead with the sequel and created ''The Jewel of the Nile'', a film so bad that one college screenwriting professor made an exam out of pointing out all the flaws in it.
* Shortly after Diane Thomas agreed to write a sequel to her first screenplay ''[[Romancing the Stone]]'', she was killed in a car crash. The studio went ahead with the sequel and created ''The Jewel of the Nile'', a film so bad that one college screenwriting professor made an exam out of pointing out all the flaws in it.
* Let's not forget ''[[Final Destination]]'', the first of which was as "final" as ''[[Final Fantasy]]''.
* Let's not forget ''[[Final Destination]]'', the first of which was as "final" as ''[[Final Fantasy]]''.
* First played straight, then turned on its head, by the ''[[Transformers (Film)|Transformers]]'' movies. Critical consensus has the first being nothing special and the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Film)|second downright bad]], while the [[Transformers Dark of the Moon (Film)|third]] [[Contested Sequel|has no]] [[Broken Base|real consensus]].
* First played straight, then turned on its head, by the ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' movies. Critical consensus has the first being nothing special and the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen|second downright bad]], while the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon|third]] [[Contested Sequel|has no]] [[Broken Base|real consensus]].
** Let me explain, the first movie was a solid sci-fi action-thriller that gave a semi-realistic tone to the franchise along with recognizing that most fans are in their teens/college years leading to some well sprinkled moments of humor (such as the famous [[A Date With Rosie Palms|"Sam's happy fun time"]] scene). But the second movie lost that touch and became an over the top action movie with tons of [[Refuge in Audacity|unneeded adult humor]] (Such as the pot smoking mom, the [[Unfortunate Implications|racist robots]] and mechanical testicles) not to mention the generic plot. Finally the third movie tried to please everyone and lowered the screen time for the robots (even though they are the title characters), made the first half almost a sort of parody (which led to the return of Sam's parent's who by now are nothing more than [[The Artifact]]) and the second half a sci-fi war movie that dropped Bridges on many characters.
** Let me explain, the first movie was a solid sci-fi action-thriller that gave a semi-realistic tone to the franchise along with recognizing that most fans are in their teens/college years leading to some well sprinkled moments of humor (such as the famous [[A Date with Rosie Palms|"Sam's happy fun time"]] scene). But the second movie lost that touch and became an over the top action movie with tons of [[Refuge in Audacity|unneeded adult humor]] (Such as the pot smoking mom, the [[Unfortunate Implications|racist robots]] and mechanical testicles) not to mention the generic plot. Finally the third movie tried to please everyone and lowered the screen time for the robots (even though they are the title characters), made the first half almost a sort of parody (which led to the return of Sam's parent's who by now are nothing more than [[The Artifact]]) and the second half a sci-fi war movie that dropped Bridges on many characters.
* Both the ''[[Dirty Harry (Film)|Dirty Harry]]'' series and the ''[[Death Wish (Film)|Death Wish]]'' series suffer heavily from this, getting sillier and sillier with each installment.
* Both the ''[[Dirty Harry]]'' series and the ''[[Death Wish]]'' series suffer heavily from this, getting sillier and sillier with each installment.
* The second ''[[Dungeons and Dragons (Film)|Dungeons and Dragons]]'' movie is often said to have inverted this trope in spite of being released as a [[Sy Fy]] Channel Original, which is normally a step worse than [[Direct to Video]].
* The second ''[[Dungeons and Dragons (film)|Dungeons and Dragons]]'' movie is often said to have inverted this trope in spite of being released as a [[Sy Fy]] Channel Original, which is normally a step worse than [[Direct to Video]].
** It helps that the first was so campy and fargone from what D&D was (or was expected to be be) that the few fans left felt it had nowhere left to go but up.
** It helps that the first was so campy and fargone from what D&D was (or was expected to be be) that the few fans left felt it had nowhere left to go but up.
* The original ''[[Men in Black]]'' was well received by both critics and audiences, but the sequel (while still being a hit at the box office) was generally considered to be a dud. After a decade in [[Development Hell]], ''Men In Black 3'' was released, and managed to not only be another big hit at the box office, but got very good reviews from the critics as well.
* The original ''[[Men in Black]]'' was well received by both critics and audiences, but the sequel (while still being a hit at the box office) was generally considered to be a dud. After a decade in [[Development Hell]], ''Men In Black 3'' was released, and managed to not only be another big hit at the box office, but got very good reviews from the critics as well.


== Literature ==
== Literature ==
* [[Piers Anthony]]'s series of ''[[Xanth (Literature)|Xanth]]'' novels has reached over 30 novels. It [[Jumped the Shark]] a long time ago, and currently consists [[Running the Asylum|almost entirely of puns and plot developments suggested by readers]].
* [[Piers Anthony]]'s series of ''[[Xanth]]'' novels has reached over 30 novels. It [[Jumped the Shark]] a long time ago, and currently consists [[Running the Asylum|almost entirely of puns and plot developments suggested by readers]].
* Most sequels to works in the public domain are awful, or at least so inferior to the originals that fans will invariably be disappointed. One reason for this is that only the very best books survive the test of time: perhaps a sequel to Elizabeth Gaskell's ''North and South'' would be comparable to the original, but any sequel to ''[[Pride and Prejudice]]'' would pale in comparison. Another is that anyone, no matter how dreadful a writer they may be, can publish a sequel to a public domain work. That's not possible for a work under copyright, where the copyright holder can prevent the publication of any unauthorized sequel.
* Most sequels to works in the public domain are awful, or at least so inferior to the originals that fans will invariably be disappointed. One reason for this is that only the very best books survive the test of time: perhaps a sequel to Elizabeth Gaskell's ''North and South'' would be comparable to the original, but any sequel to ''[[Pride and Prejudice]]'' would pale in comparison. Another is that anyone, no matter how dreadful a writer they may be, can publish a sequel to a public domain work. That's not possible for a work under copyright, where the copyright holder can prevent the publication of any unauthorized sequel.
** Susan Kay's ''Phantom'' is generally considered to be pretty good by the phandom, and is even accepted as (admittedly dubious) canon by some. The sequel to the ''[[Phantom of the Opera]]'' musical may not be so lucky (see Theater below).
** Susan Kay's ''Phantom'' is generally considered to be pretty good by the phandom, and is even accepted as (admittedly dubious) canon by some. The sequel to the ''[[Phantom of the Opera]]'' musical may not be so lucky (see Theater below).
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** The third also adds the idea that {{spoiler|the reason people are evil is because evil time-travellers have made them that way}}. The fourth expands this to {{spoiler|the evil time-travellers were actually taken over by aliens who lived inside a computer.}}
** The third also adds the idea that {{spoiler|the reason people are evil is because evil time-travellers have made them that way}}. The fourth expands this to {{spoiler|the evil time-travellers were actually taken over by aliens who lived inside a computer.}}
** And the books retconthings established in the previous ones to an annoying degree.
** And the books retconthings established in the previous ones to an annoying degree.
* The sequel novels to [[The Bourne Series]], which contain, in the first addition, {{spoiler|[[Dropped a Bridge On Him|Dropped A Bridge On]] two of the most important characters in the first twenty pages, a character who is canonically supposed to be dead suffering from [[Parental Abandonment]], [[Comic Book Time]], and much, much, much, much [[Canon Defilement]]}}. The second addition is no less [[Egregious]], including {{spoiler|[[Dropped a Bridge On Him|Dropping A Bridge On Marie In Between Books]], having Bourne abandon all common sense, ridiculously atrocious pseudoscience, almost downright offensive portrayals of Washington, DC, and Bourne suddenly becoming an expert on everything, including knowing every language from Arabic to an obscure Ethiopian dialect, when in canon he's just supposed to be a professor of Oriental Studies. Seriously. Also, he carries around a Playstation 3 for no other reason than [[Rule of Cool|it looks cool]].}}
* The sequel novels to [[The Bourne Series]], which contain, in the first addition, {{spoiler|[[Dropped a Bridge on Him|Dropped A Bridge On]] two of the most important characters in the first twenty pages, a character who is canonically supposed to be dead suffering from [[Parental Abandonment]], [[Comic Book Time]], and much, much, much, much [[Canon Defilement]]}}. The second addition is no less [[Egregious]], including {{spoiler|[[Dropped a Bridge on Him|Dropping A Bridge On Marie In Between Books]], having Bourne abandon all common sense, ridiculously atrocious pseudoscience, almost downright offensive portrayals of Washington, DC, and Bourne suddenly becoming an expert on everything, including knowing every language from Arabic to an obscure Ethiopian dialect, when in canon he's just supposed to be a professor of Oriental Studies. Seriously. Also, he carries around a Playstation 3 for no other reason than [[Rule of Cool|it looks cool]].}}
** The Bourne Deception is plain humiliation. Bourne visits a Balinese shaman, sleeps with a woman who was formerly his friend's girlfriend, and mentions virtually nothing about his children. In The Bourne Ultimatum he is fifty, and that is when Soviet Union still existed; the book mentions the timeline had passed 2005 since Indonesian Bali Bombing. The new author pretty much transforms this tortured amnesiac soul into [[Comic Book Time|ageless James Bond-wannabe]].
** The Bourne Deception is plain humiliation. Bourne visits a Balinese shaman, sleeps with a woman who was formerly his friend's girlfriend, and mentions virtually nothing about his children. In The Bourne Ultimatum he is fifty, and that is when Soviet Union still existed; the book mentions the timeline had passed 2005 since Indonesian Bali Bombing. The new author pretty much transforms this tortured amnesiac soul into [[Comic Book Time|ageless James Bond-wannabe]].
* Laurell K. Hamilton's ''[[Anita Blake]]'' series started as a quite cool detective series, but degraded from book five onward.
* Laurell K. Hamilton's ''[[Anita Blake]]'' series started as a quite cool detective series, but degraded from book five onward.
* [[Ursula K Le Guin|Ursula K. Le Guin]] completed the original [[Earthsea Trilogy]] in 1974. Sixteen years later, she wrote a fourth book ''Tehanu: The Last Book of Earthsea'', which suffers from [[Mood Whiplash]], [[Writer On Board]] and a lack of plot. And it wasn't even the last book.
* [[Ursula K. Le Guin]] completed the original [[Earthsea Trilogy]] in 1974. Sixteen years later, she wrote a fourth book ''Tehanu: The Last Book of Earthsea'', which suffers from [[Mood Whiplash]], [[Writer on Board]] and a lack of plot. And it wasn't even the last book.
* 55 years after publication of ''[[Gone With the Wind]]'', ''Scarlett'', an "authorized" sequel appeared. Critics were not impressed.
* 55 years after publication of ''[[Gone with the Wind]]'', ''Scarlett'', an "authorized" sequel appeared. Critics were not impressed.
** Another sequel, ''Rhett Butler's People'' also appeared. The critics panned that one too.
** Another sequel, ''Rhett Butler's People'' also appeared. The critics panned that one too.
* Terry Goodkind's ''[[Sword of Truth]]'' series started putting more and more focus on [[Magi Babble|magical history]], [[Author Tract|Objectivist philosophy]] and the main character's role as a leader after the second book. [[Your Mileage May Vary]] on the results, but the common opinion on this site is that it [[Jumped the Shark]], with each book getting worse and worse. Goodkind gave the last three books a rather good attempt to emulate the first two's plot and style, at least.
* Terry Goodkind's ''[[Sword of Truth]]'' series started putting more and more focus on [[Magi Babble|magical history]], [[Author Tract|Objectivist philosophy]] and the main character's role as a leader after the second book. [[Your Mileage May Vary]] on the results, but the common opinion on this site is that it [[Jumped the Shark]], with each book getting worse and worse. Goodkind gave the last three books a rather good attempt to emulate the first two's plot and style, at least.
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** And don't even dare mention the John Betancourt knockoffs, officially sanctioned or not.
** And don't even dare mention the John Betancourt knockoffs, officially sanctioned or not.
* ''[[Redwall]]'', partially because the plot that worked for the first five or six books gets a bit stale when it's [[Recycled Premise|pulled out for the twentieth time]]. It does not help that the [[Wacky Wayside Tribe|Wacky Wayside Tribes]] started to replace "plot relevance" with "annoying habits" around the time of "The Pearls of Lutra".
* ''[[Redwall]]'', partially because the plot that worked for the first five or six books gets a bit stale when it's [[Recycled Premise|pulled out for the twentieth time]]. It does not help that the [[Wacky Wayside Tribe|Wacky Wayside Tribes]] started to replace "plot relevance" with "annoying habits" around the time of "The Pearls of Lutra".
* The sequels to [[Arthur C. Clarke (Creator)]]'s ''[[Rendezvous With Rama]]'' (which are actually written primarily by Gentry Lee) suffer from this.
* The sequels to [[Arthur C. Clarke]]'s ''[[Rendezvous With Rama]]'' (which are actually written primarily by Gentry Lee) suffer from this.
* [[Gregory Benford]] once wrote a sequel to [[Arthur C. Clarke (Creator)]]'s amazing ''Against the Fall of Night'', called ''Beyond the Fall of Night''. It's awful, primarily because ''Against'' {{spoiler|sets up a massive battle between good and evil with a disembodied intelligence called Vanamonde battling the evil Mad Mind}}. ''Benford'' completely ignores that and makes Beyond be about a very strange track of evolution and {{spoiler|Vanamonde barely appears right at the end, and is almost completely superfluous, having the Mad Mind being defeated by a specific branch of humanity}}. ''Against the Fall of Night'' is loved by science fiction fans, but ''Beyond the Fall of Night'' tends to be hated.
* [[Gregory Benford]] once wrote a sequel to [[Arthur C. Clarke]]'s amazing ''Against the Fall of Night'', called ''Beyond the Fall of Night''. It's awful, primarily because ''Against'' {{spoiler|sets up a massive battle between good and evil with a disembodied intelligence called Vanamonde battling the evil Mad Mind}}. ''Benford'' completely ignores that and makes Beyond be about a very strange track of evolution and {{spoiler|Vanamonde barely appears right at the end, and is almost completely superfluous, having the Mad Mind being defeated by a specific branch of humanity}}. ''Against the Fall of Night'' is loved by science fiction fans, but ''Beyond the Fall of Night'' tends to be hated.
* The ''[[Doctor Who]] [[Past Doctor Adventures]]'' novel ''The Quantum Archangel'' could be considered a Type IV and VI. A sequel to "[[Doctor Who/Recap/S9 E5 The Time Monster|The Time Monster]]", which the author claimed was intentionally "the ultimate in [[Fan Wank]]", it's basically "The Time Monster" ONLY BIGGER! So the TOMTIT machine that affects space-time is replaced by a more advanced version called the TITAN Array that affects Calabi-Yau space (the "extra" dimensions in superstring theory). TOMTIT was secretly created by the Master to trap a Chronovore; TITAN is comandeered by the Master to wipe the Chronovores out and [[A God Am I|give himself their powers]]. The Third Doctor disrupts TOMTIT with an arangement of forks and winebottles; the Sixth Doctor builds a ''much bigger'' version to disrupt TITAN. The Third Doctor and the Delgado Master go on a jaunt to Ancient Atlantis; the Sixth Doctor and the Ainley Master visit a forgotten planet from the beginning of the universe. Stuart Hyde gets temporarily youthed instead of aged, the Doctor attempts to Time Ram the Master's TARDIS, and Kronos again [[Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machinas]] everything at the end. Even the throwaway gag that "E = MC cubed" in the Vortex gets reused and amped up; in Calabi-Yau Space, apparently, E = MC to the fourth power. [[Your Mileage May Vary]]: it's so blatant about it that some feel it goes beyond conventional sequelitis and becomes good, or at least successfully does what it wants to do.
* The ''[[Doctor Who]] [[Past Doctor Adventures]]'' novel ''The Quantum Archangel'' could be considered a Type IV and VI. A sequel to "[[Doctor Who/Recap/S9 E5 The Time Monster|The Time Monster]]", which the author claimed was intentionally "the ultimate in [[Fan Wank]]", it's basically "The Time Monster" ONLY BIGGER! So the TOMTIT machine that affects space-time is replaced by a more advanced version called the TITAN Array that affects Calabi-Yau space (the "extra" dimensions in superstring theory). TOMTIT was secretly created by the Master to trap a Chronovore; TITAN is comandeered by the Master to wipe the Chronovores out and [[A God Am I|give himself their powers]]. The Third Doctor disrupts TOMTIT with an arangement of forks and winebottles; the Sixth Doctor builds a ''much bigger'' version to disrupt TITAN. The Third Doctor and the Delgado Master go on a jaunt to Ancient Atlantis; the Sixth Doctor and the Ainley Master visit a forgotten planet from the beginning of the universe. Stuart Hyde gets temporarily youthed instead of aged, the Doctor attempts to Time Ram the Master's TARDIS, and Kronos again [[Deus Ex Machina|Deus Ex Machinas]] everything at the end. Even the throwaway gag that "E = MC cubed" in the Vortex gets reused and amped up; in Calabi-Yau Space, apparently, E = MC to the fourth power. [[Your Mileage May Vary]]: it's so blatant about it that some feel it goes beyond conventional sequelitis and becomes good, or at least successfully does what it wants to do.
* [[Robert E Howard|Robert E. Howard's]] most famous creation [[Conan the Barbarian|Conan The Cimmerian]] suffers horribly from this. Not only are there endless continuations, prequels and other adventurers of vastly varying quality by many different authors but the original stories were rewritten in places to make them sync up with the sequels. However even the original stories occasionally suffer from sequelitis. Because of the characters popularity Howard knew he could sell just about any Conan story to [[Weird Tales]] and wrote some very cliched tales (such as ''The Devil in Iron'') which were effectively knock-offs of his own earlier efforts when he needed quick cash.
* [[Robert E. Howard|Robert E. Howard's]] most famous creation [[Conan the Barbarian|Conan The Cimmerian]] suffers horribly from this. Not only are there endless continuations, prequels and other adventurers of vastly varying quality by many different authors but the original stories were rewritten in places to make them sync up with the sequels. However even the original stories occasionally suffer from sequelitis. Because of the characters popularity Howard knew he could sell just about any Conan story to [[Weird Tales]] and wrote some very cliched tales (such as ''The Devil in Iron'') which were effectively knock-offs of his own earlier efforts when he needed quick cash.
* A subversion comes with [[JRR Tolkien (Creator)|JRR Tolkien]]'s abandoned sequel to the ''[[Lord of the Rings]]''. Called ''The New Shadow'' he got as far as coming up with some characters and setting it in the fourth age of Middle-earth where a dark cult rose up in the lands of Gondor. However he abandoned it after only a few pages as he felt it would not be as epic or up to the standards of his other work, then suffered [[Author Existence Failure]]. Meaning it's highly unlikely this will be finished, however there is a fan made mod known as [[Fourth Age Total War]] which makes this concept and [[Shown Their Work|expands on it]].
* A subversion comes with [[J. R. R. Tolkien|JRR Tolkien]]'s abandoned sequel to the ''[[Lord of the Rings]]''. Called ''The New Shadow'' he got as far as coming up with some characters and setting it in the fourth age of Middle-earth where a dark cult rose up in the lands of Gondor. However he abandoned it after only a few pages as he felt it would not be as epic or up to the standards of his other work, then suffered [[Author Existence Failure]]. Meaning it's highly unlikely this will be finished, however there is a fan made mod known as [[Fourth Age Total War]] which makes this concept and [[Shown Their Work|expands on it]].
* ''[[Warrior Cats]]''. The 1st arc of novels is treasured by fans. The second arc is usually seen as good, but not as good as the original. The third arc...is very [[Love It or Hate It|polarizing]]. Since the series is so financially successful, and has a vast and dedicated fanbase, the books just keep on coming. Most complaints about the later series cite the reused plot devices, the [[Loads and Loads of Characters|ridiculous amount of mostly flat and undeveloped supporting characters]], and the smaller focus on nature and survival in favor of more anthropomorphized themes like love and family issues. It's often compared to a soap opera. And this doesn't even touch on the vast amount of mangas, field guides and other companion books, which generally entertain diehard fans but hold little literary merit. It's hard to say when the franchise will actually end, because the fans are always eager for new books and the authors, who keep in touch with their fanbase regularly via author chat, don't want to disappoint them.
* ''[[Warrior Cats]]''. The 1st arc of novels is treasured by fans. The second arc is usually seen as good, but not as good as the original. The third arc...is very [[Love It or Hate It|polarizing]]. Since the series is so financially successful, and has a vast and dedicated fanbase, the books just keep on coming. Most complaints about the later series cite the reused plot devices, the [[Loads and Loads of Characters|ridiculous amount of mostly flat and undeveloped supporting characters]], and the smaller focus on nature and survival in favor of more anthropomorphized themes like love and family issues. It's often compared to a soap opera. And this doesn't even touch on the vast amount of mangas, field guides and other companion books, which generally entertain diehard fans but hold little literary merit. It's hard to say when the franchise will actually end, because the fans are always eager for new books and the authors, who keep in touch with their fanbase regularly via author chat, don't want to disappoint them.
* Anne McCaffrey's Pern series, and how! The first book was stunning and awesome, and the second and third that followed were, while having their problems, quite good. Unfortunately, she kept writing, and things went to hell in a handbasket. She contradicted established canon from one book to the next, couldn't keep names, ages, and places straight, and the plots devolved into pathetic monstrosities.
* Anne McCaffrey's Pern series, and how! The first book was stunning and awesome, and the second and third that followed were, while having their problems, quite good. Unfortunately, she kept writing, and things went to hell in a handbasket. She contradicted established canon from one book to the next, couldn't keep names, ages, and places straight, and the plots devolved into pathetic monstrosities.


== Live-Action TV ==
== Live-Action TV ==
* Even more than the film examples, ''[[Star Trek (Franchise)|Star Trek]]'' suffered this in its series. ''[[Star Trek the Original Series (TV)|The Original Series]]'' was considered an uneven novelty, a series that was either teeth grating crap, or, the very pinnacle of science-fiction, depending on the given episode. ''[[The Next Generation]]'' has been formally recognized as being among the top 100 shows ever made and a crowning achievement of television. Paramount came down with Sequelitis, commissioning '''three''' follow-up series (one of them was a ''pre''quelitis). The critical reception deteriorated with each successive series, along with the ratings (though a few preferred ''[[Deep Space Nine]]'' in later years). The last one only made it to four seasons, the fourth season was only made so that the series could be syndicated, and not end up a total failure.
* Even more than the film examples, ''[[Star Trek]]'' suffered this in its series. ''[[Star Trek: The Original Series|The Original Series]]'' was considered an uneven novelty, a series that was either teeth grating crap, or, the very pinnacle of science-fiction, depending on the given episode. ''[[The Next Generation]]'' has been formally recognized as being among the top 100 shows ever made and a crowning achievement of television. Paramount came down with Sequelitis, commissioning '''three''' follow-up series (one of them was a ''pre''quelitis). The critical reception deteriorated with each successive series, along with the ratings (though a few preferred ''[[Deep Space Nine]]'' in later years). The last one only made it to four seasons, the fourth season was only made so that the series could be syndicated, and not end up a total failure.
* ''[[Dead Ringers (TV)|Dead Ringers]]'' had a sketch in which different versions of Arnold Schwarzenegger came back from the future to warn him not to sign up for any more lousy ''Terminator'' sequels, {{spoiler|eventually reaching [[Overly Long Gag|Terminator 23]] before Sarah Connor shot the present Arnie to save the future. To her dismay, another Arnie came back and revealed she is now his co-star in ''Kindergarten Cop 14''!}} [[Big No|Nnnnnoooooooo!]]
* ''[[Dead Ringers (TV series)|Dead Ringers]]'' had a sketch in which different versions of Arnold Schwarzenegger came back from the future to warn him not to sign up for any more lousy ''Terminator'' sequels, {{spoiler|eventually reaching [[Overly Long Gag|Terminator 23]] before Sarah Connor shot the present Arnie to save the future. To her dismay, another Arnie came back and revealed she is now his co-star in ''Kindergarten Cop 14''!}} [[Big No|Nnnnnoooooooo!]]




== Music ==
== Music ==
* Critics wanted [[ES Posthumus]]'s work in ''Makara'' to be [[Sequel Escalation|more powerful and action-filled]] songs; this causes the songs to have [[Its the Same So It Sucks|less variation]] as well as losing the flow and developed tunes in ''Unearthed'' and ''Cartographer''.
* Critics wanted [[E.S. Posthumus]]'s work in ''Makara'' to be [[Sequel Escalation|more powerful and action-filled]] songs; this causes the songs to have [[Its the Same So It Sucks|less variation]] as well as losing the flow and developed tunes in ''Unearthed'' and ''Cartographer''.
* No genre features more numbered albums than hip-hop. It usually works like this:
* No genre features more numbered albums than hip-hop. It usually works like this:
** 1. Rapper releases album that's deemed a classic or has massive success.
** 1. Rapper releases album that's deemed a classic or has massive success.
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* The musical ''[[Of Thee I Sing]]'', a cheerful satire on the American political system, opened on Broadway late in 1931 to immense popular and critical acclaim, which not only made it one of the longest-running shows of the decade but won a Pulitzer Prize for its writers; it was the first ever musical play to win the award. Almost two years later, a sequel, ''Let 'Em Eat Cake'', appeared from the same authors, with the same principal actors and even the same producer. It was not a commercial success; many of its jokes were recycled from the earlier show, and a bewildering series of plot complications (involving, among other things, a baseball-playing League of Nations) stretched [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief]] too far.
* The musical ''[[Of Thee I Sing]]'', a cheerful satire on the American political system, opened on Broadway late in 1931 to immense popular and critical acclaim, which not only made it one of the longest-running shows of the decade but won a Pulitzer Prize for its writers; it was the first ever musical play to win the award. Almost two years later, a sequel, ''Let 'Em Eat Cake'', appeared from the same authors, with the same principal actors and even the same producer. It was not a commercial success; many of its jokes were recycled from the earlier show, and a bewildering series of plot complications (involving, among other things, a baseball-playing League of Nations) stretched [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief]] too far.
* ''Bring Back Birdie'' was a sequel to ''[[Bye Bye Birdie]]'', produced and set twenty years later. It was written by the same authors as the original show, and featured the same characters, with Chita Rivera once again starring as Rose Alvarez. Most people who saw the show during the less than a week it ran on Broadway agreed that it was horrible. Somewhat infamous for a moment where the actor playing Birdie lost the beat to one of the songs then [[Screw This, I'm Outta Here|marched off stage]], saying, "You sing it! I never liked this song anyway!"
* ''Bring Back Birdie'' was a sequel to ''[[Bye Bye Birdie]]'', produced and set twenty years later. It was written by the same authors as the original show, and featured the same characters, with Chita Rivera once again starring as Rose Alvarez. Most people who saw the show during the less than a week it ran on Broadway agreed that it was horrible. Somewhat infamous for a moment where the actor playing Birdie lost the beat to one of the songs then [[Screw This, I'm Outta Here|marched off stage]], saying, "You sing it! I never liked this song anyway!"
* The musical ''[[Annie (Theatre)|Annie]]'' similarly had a sequel written by the same authors (including composer Charles Strouse, who had also done ''Bye Bye Birdie'' and ''Bring Back Birdie'', though lyricist Martin Charnin seems to have been the ringleader in this scheme), with several of the older members of the original cast reprising their roles. In the implausible plot of ''Annie 2: Miss Hannigan's Revenge'', Daddy Warbucks was ordered to find a mother for Annie, which provided the opportunity for Miss Hannigan's scheme (conceived with a good deal of [[Motive Decay]]) to first become Warbucks's wife and then a widow without any dependents. When the eagerly awaited show had its pre-Broadway opening in Washington, D.C. in January 1990, audiences were stunned at how unfunny the show was. Massive rewrites ensued, and continued in earnest even after the show's Broadway booking was canceled and several star actors dropped out, including Dorothy Loudon as Miss Hannigan. Miss Hannigan was ultimately written out in favor of a [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute]] (though the plot remained mostly the same), and the authors' desperate efforts to get their show into New York finally resulted in its opening off-Broadway in 1993, as ''Annie Warbucks''. Critics recognized the show as an unnecessary sequel, and it failed to catch on with audiences.
* The musical ''[[Annie]]'' similarly had a sequel written by the same authors (including composer Charles Strouse, who had also done ''Bye Bye Birdie'' and ''Bring Back Birdie'', though lyricist Martin Charnin seems to have been the ringleader in this scheme), with several of the older members of the original cast reprising their roles. In the implausible plot of ''Annie 2: Miss Hannigan's Revenge'', Daddy Warbucks was ordered to find a mother for Annie, which provided the opportunity for Miss Hannigan's scheme (conceived with a good deal of [[Motive Decay]]) to first become Warbucks's wife and then a widow without any dependents. When the eagerly awaited show had its pre-Broadway opening in Washington, D.C. in January 1990, audiences were stunned at how unfunny the show was. Massive rewrites ensued, and continued in earnest even after the show's Broadway booking was canceled and several star actors dropped out, including Dorothy Loudon as Miss Hannigan. Miss Hannigan was ultimately written out in favor of a [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute]] (though the plot remained mostly the same), and the authors' desperate efforts to get their show into New York finally resulted in its opening off-Broadway in 1993, as ''Annie Warbucks''. Critics recognized the show as an unnecessary sequel, and it failed to catch on with audiences.
* The musical ''[[wikipedia:The Boy Friend|The Boy Friend]]'' also suffers from this despite being not as well known as some others out there. Its sequel is so ridiculous that it has to be seen (or read) to believe. The name? [[wikipedia:Divorce Me, Darling!|''Divorce Me, Darling!'']]
* The musical ''[[wikipedia:The Boy Friend|The Boy Friend]]'' also suffers from this despite being not as well known as some others out there. Its sequel is so ridiculous that it has to be seen (or read) to believe. The name? [[wikipedia:Divorce Me, Darling!|''Divorce Me, Darling!'']]
* ''Love Never Dies'', the sequel to ''[[The Phantom of the Opera]]'', is being slammed by many fans of the original.
* ''Love Never Dies'', the sequel to ''[[The Phantom of the Opera]]'', is being slammed by many fans of the original.
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== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==
* Opinion differs on whether ''Master of Orion'' or ''Master of Orion II'' is the better game, but almost no-one thinks ''Master of Orion III'' is anything but unmitigated crap.
* Opinion differs on whether ''Master of Orion'' or ''Master of Orion II'' is the better game, but almost no-one thinks ''Master of Orion III'' is anything but unmitigated crap.
* ''[[X-COM]]: UFO Defense'' (or ''UFO: Enemy Unknown'', depending on where you live) was a surprise hit, with its great atmosphere, fine management section, and superb tactical section. Microprose decided to ride the wave and, after less than a year, released ''X-COM: Terror From The Deep'': under a shiny package of new graphics and sound, the game was exactly the same, only taking place underwater, with difficulty re-balanced for the worse, and bugs that could block the tech tree, making the game unwinnable. ''X-COM: Apocalypse'' was from the original developers but, sadly, it completely lacked atmosphere and, while trying to be more complex, it became cumbersome. ''X-COM: Interceptor'' (a mediocre [[Wing Commander (Video Game)|Wing Commander]] clone) and ''X-COM: Enforcer'' (a shallow [[Third-Person Shooter]]) followed and were quickly and deservedly forgotten, while more interesting projects were cancelled thanks to [[Executive Meddling|the mismanagements of Microprose and Hasbro Interactive]].
* ''[[X-COM]]: UFO Defense'' (or ''UFO: Enemy Unknown'', depending on where you live) was a surprise hit, with its great atmosphere, fine management section, and superb tactical section. Microprose decided to ride the wave and, after less than a year, released ''X-COM: Terror From The Deep'': under a shiny package of new graphics and sound, the game was exactly the same, only taking place underwater, with difficulty re-balanced for the worse, and bugs that could block the tech tree, making the game unwinnable. ''X-COM: Apocalypse'' was from the original developers but, sadly, it completely lacked atmosphere and, while trying to be more complex, it became cumbersome. ''X-COM: Interceptor'' (a mediocre [[Wing Commander (video game)|Wing Commander]] clone) and ''X-COM: Enforcer'' (a shallow [[Third-Person Shooter]]) followed and were quickly and deservedly forgotten, while more interesting projects were cancelled thanks to [[Executive Meddling|the mismanagements of Microprose and Hasbro Interactive]].
* Nearly any ''[[Lemmings]]'' game after ''Lemmings 2: The Tribes''.
* Nearly any ''[[Lemmings]]'' game after ''Lemmings 2: The Tribes''.
* ''[[Tomb Raider]] 2'' was generally considered almost equal or an [[Even Better Sequel]] on release, 3 and 4 both involve heavy amounts of [[Your Mileage May Vary]] as to where you place them. By 5 the series had firmly fell into this trope and Angel of Darkness was the last straw before the series began recovering by being moved to another developer.
* ''[[Tomb Raider]] 2'' was generally considered almost equal or an [[Even Better Sequel]] on release, 3 and 4 both involve heavy amounts of [[Your Mileage May Vary]] as to where you place them. By 5 the series had firmly fell into this trope and Angel of Darkness was the last straw before the series began recovering by being moved to another developer.
* ''[[Earthworm Jim (Video Game)|Earthworm Jim]]'' was a weird and well-received game. The second game was even better in nearly every aspect. Then the series met the [[Polygon Ceiling]] courtesy of a different developer, and anything resembling quality went out the window. Then Shiny Entertainment themselves [[Creator Killer|threw their own quality off their windows]] some time after dumping Jim.
* ''[[Earthworm Jim (video game)|Earthworm Jim]]'' was a weird and well-received game. The second game was even better in nearly every aspect. Then the series met the [[Polygon Ceiling]] courtesy of a different developer, and anything resembling quality went out the window. Then Shiny Entertainment themselves [[Creator Killer|threw their own quality off their windows]] some time after dumping Jim.
* ''[[Mega Man (Video Game)|Mega Man]]'' has been all over the place with this. At some point a given series starts sucking hard and a spinoff is made. It starts off great, then slowly slides into crap until a spinoff is made and the [[Capcom Sequel Stagnation|cycle begins anew]]. From the sound of it, this could be blamed on [[Executive Meddling]]; Kenji Inafune, the creator of Mega Man, wanted to end the classic series at 6 and the X series on 5, but Capcom wanted to make more money.
* ''[[Mega Man (video game)|Mega Man]]'' has been all over the place with this. At some point a given series starts sucking hard and a spinoff is made. It starts off great, then slowly slides into crap until a spinoff is made and the [[Capcom Sequel Stagnation|cycle begins anew]]. From the sound of it, this could be blamed on [[Executive Meddling]]; Kenji Inafune, the creator of Mega Man, wanted to end the classic series at 6 and the X series on 5, but Capcom wanted to make more money.
** ''7'' was released after the series' [[Mega Man X (Video Game)|first]] [[Sequel Series]], and it and its following installments are considered massive improvements. [[Broken Base|Some]] fans still consider ''2'' and ''3'' to be the pinnacle of the series, however. Also, [[Your Mileage May Vary]] when it comes to ''Mega Man & Bass''.
** ''7'' was released after the series' [[Mega Man X|first]] [[Sequel Series]], and it and its following installments are considered massive improvements. [[Broken Base|Some]] fans still consider ''2'' and ''3'' to be the pinnacle of the series, however. Also, [[Your Mileage May Vary]] when it comes to ''Mega Man & Bass''.
** ''[[Mega Man X (Video Game)|Mega Man X]] 8'' was also surprisingly good despite the enormous amounts of [[Fake Difficulty]]. Apparently Capcom sequels go in cycles. ''9'' supports this theory.
** ''[[Mega Man X]] 8'' was also surprisingly good despite the enormous amounts of [[Fake Difficulty]]. Apparently Capcom sequels go in cycles. ''9'' supports this theory.
** ''[[Mega Man Battle Network (Video Game)|Mega Man Battle Network]]'' actually really improved for the last installment, although the two proceeding ones were pretty mediocre.
** ''[[Mega Man Battle Network]]'' actually really improved for the last installment, although the two proceeding ones were pretty mediocre.
** ''[[Mega Man Star Force]]'' had the same situation. The first was alright, the second was bad, but the third is largely agreed to have been fantastic.
** ''[[Mega Man Star Force]]'' had the same situation. The first was alright, the second was bad, but the third is largely agreed to have been fantastic.
* The [[Tony Hawk Pro Skater]] series has succumbed to this, somewhere around the ''Underground'' era.
* The [[Tony Hawk Pro Skater]] series has succumbed to this, somewhere around the ''Underground'' era.
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* There's a lot of flame wars out there about whether this applies to ''[[Final Fantasy]]''. Seeing as the ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' title is pretty much just a way of adverting that it's a JRPG that [[Square Enix]] put a lot of money into, this is somewhat nonsensical.
* There's a lot of flame wars out there about whether this applies to ''[[Final Fantasy]]''. Seeing as the ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' title is pretty much just a way of adverting that it's a JRPG that [[Square Enix]] put a lot of money into, this is somewhat nonsensical.
** Whether and at what point the mainline series has [[Jumping the Shark|jumped the shark]] is a matter of [[Broken Base|great]] [[Internet Backdraft|contention]].
** Whether and at what point the mainline series has [[Jumping the Shark|jumped the shark]] is a matter of [[Broken Base|great]] [[Internet Backdraft|contention]].
** The few direct sequels / prequels have had mixed results. Some of them, like ''[[Crisis Core]]'', have been considered worthy follow-ups. Some of them, like ''[[Advent Children]]'', ''Dirge of Cerberus'', and ''[[Final Fantasy X 2 (Video Game)|Final Fantasy X 2]]'', start flame wars.
** The few direct sequels / prequels have had mixed results. Some of them, like ''[[Crisis Core]]'', have been considered worthy follow-ups. Some of them, like ''[[Advent Children]]'', ''Dirge of Cerberus'', and ''[[Final Fantasy X 2]]'', start flame wars.
* Arika's ''[[Tetris the Grand Master]]'' series got better with each new release for its first three installments. Then came the very un-TGM-like title ''Tetris: The Grand Master ACE'', the tragic byproduct of The Tetris Company's and [[Microsoft]]'s [[Executive Meddling]]. Most of the trademark TGM gameplay mechanics have been stripped (including Master mode, and by extension the unique TGM-style leveling up and grade system), you get a variation of [[Game Breaker|infinite spin]] (limit of 128 rotations and 128 movements) as opposed to TGM's "step reset" lock delay, and you need an Xbox Live Gold membership to unlock proper TGM rotation. Good ''Tetris'', but bad TGM.
* Arika's ''[[Tetris the Grand Master]]'' series got better with each new release for its first three installments. Then came the very un-TGM-like title ''Tetris: The Grand Master ACE'', the tragic byproduct of The Tetris Company's and [[Microsoft]]'s [[Executive Meddling]]. Most of the trademark TGM gameplay mechanics have been stripped (including Master mode, and by extension the unique TGM-style leveling up and grade system), you get a variation of [[Game Breaker|infinite spin]] (limit of 128 rotations and 128 movements) as opposed to TGM's "step reset" lock delay, and you need an Xbox Live Gold membership to unlock proper TGM rotation. Good ''Tetris'', but bad TGM.
* The ''[[Army Men (Video Game)|Army Men]]'' franchise was initially insanely popular. Then somewhere the lack-luster spin-offs and [[In Name Only]] sequels slowly choked off sales until the company finally went bankrupt in 2003. Even with the parent company dead, other companies are ''still'' trying to make cash off of the brand, the latest entries getting some of the worst reviews in shooting games.
* The ''[[Army Men]]'' franchise was initially insanely popular. Then somewhere the lack-luster spin-offs and [[In Name Only]] sequels slowly choked off sales until the company finally went bankrupt in 2003. Even with the parent company dead, other companies are ''still'' trying to make cash off of the brand, the latest entries getting some of the worst reviews in shooting games.
* ''[[Manhunt]]'' was a well-received game for its creepy tension, innovative use of sound, complex enemy AI, and [[Gorn|wide variety of kill moves]]. ''Manhunt 2'' was a step back from that, with less intelligent enemies, less menace and tension, and a [[Mind Screw|confusing story]]. At least the [[Gorn]] is still good.
* ''[[Manhunt]]'' was a well-received game for its creepy tension, innovative use of sound, complex enemy AI, and [[Gorn|wide variety of kill moves]]. ''Manhunt 2'' was a step back from that, with less intelligent enemies, less menace and tension, and a [[Mind Screw|confusing story]]. At least the [[Gorn]] is still good.
* The original ''[[Double Dragon]]'' was a fairly innovative beat-em-up that introduced some of the conventions used in later games of the genre like two-player co-op and obtainable weapons, while the arcade version of ''Double Dragon II'' was mostly a [[Mission Pack Sequel]] with a fairly improved NES version. ''Double Dragon 3'' on the other hand, featured crappier "realistic" graphics, replaced half of the original game's moves and weapons with ineffectual new ones, and added a gimmicky shopping system where you can purchase power-ups for your character (including a replacement character) [[Bribing Your Way to Victory|by inserting more tokens to the machine]]. There were a few more ''Double Dragon'' games after the third one, but the series never achieved the same level of popularity it once had with the first two games.
* The original ''[[Double Dragon]]'' was a fairly innovative beat-em-up that introduced some of the conventions used in later games of the genre like two-player co-op and obtainable weapons, while the arcade version of ''Double Dragon II'' was mostly a [[Mission Pack Sequel]] with a fairly improved NES version. ''Double Dragon 3'' on the other hand, featured crappier "realistic" graphics, replaced half of the original game's moves and weapons with ineffectual new ones, and added a gimmicky shopping system where you can purchase power-ups for your character (including a replacement character) [[Bribing Your Way to Victory|by inserting more tokens to the machine]]. There were a few more ''Double Dragon'' games after the third one, but the series never achieved the same level of popularity it once had with the first two games.
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** Of course, some people do think that the second game was [[Surprisingly Improved Sequel|a vast improvement]], but the third and fourth installments were pretty average at best.
** Of course, some people do think that the second game was [[Surprisingly Improved Sequel|a vast improvement]], but the third and fourth installments were pretty average at best.
* ''[[Backyard Sports]]''. It started off as a decently enjoyable game series with clever characters and a good sense of humor. After [[Atari]]'s buy-out from [[Humongous Entertainment]], the series began a noticeable drop in quality. Then when the 2007 titles came in, it was pretty much agreed the series had lost all respect.
* ''[[Backyard Sports]]''. It started off as a decently enjoyable game series with clever characters and a good sense of humor. After [[Atari]]'s buy-out from [[Humongous Entertainment]], the series began a noticeable drop in quality. Then when the 2007 titles came in, it was pretty much agreed the series had lost all respect.
* [[Homeworld (Video Game)|Homeworld]] averted this, barely, with 'standalone expansion' ''Cataclysm'', despite it being a literal [[Mission Pack Sequel]]. It caught some flak for the dramatic shift in narrative tone and the new tech and ship designs were a bit hit-or-miss, but it did some pretty cool stuff with the existing graphics engine and generally came across like the development team at sub-contractee Barking Dog had at least ''played'' the original. ''Homeworld 2'' was a bit less fortunate, however; a lot of the original creative team had moved on in the interim, and Relic massively over-extended themselves trying to create game environments with 'megastructures' straight out of the best kind of [[Space Opera]] and generally go [[Serial Escalation]], and much of the more [[Crazy Awesome]] stuff failed to make the final cut. The end result was by no means ''bad'' -the graphics stand up quite well six years later and it's a ''lot'' more [[Game Mod|mod-friendly]] than the previous two- but the finished product had several minor but annoying bugs and balance issues and generally felt rushed. The gulf between Relic's original vision and what we actually got didn't help.
* [[Homeworld]] averted this, barely, with 'standalone expansion' ''Cataclysm'', despite it being a literal [[Mission Pack Sequel]]. It caught some flak for the dramatic shift in narrative tone and the new tech and ship designs were a bit hit-or-miss, but it did some pretty cool stuff with the existing graphics engine and generally came across like the development team at sub-contractee Barking Dog had at least ''played'' the original. ''Homeworld 2'' was a bit less fortunate, however; a lot of the original creative team had moved on in the interim, and Relic massively over-extended themselves trying to create game environments with 'megastructures' straight out of the best kind of [[Space Opera]] and generally go [[Serial Escalation]], and much of the more [[Crazy Awesome]] stuff failed to make the final cut. The end result was by no means ''bad'' -the graphics stand up quite well six years later and it's a ''lot'' more [[Game Mod|mod-friendly]] than the previous two- but the finished product had several minor but annoying bugs and balance issues and generally felt rushed. The gulf between Relic's original vision and what we actually got didn't help.
* ''[[Thunder Force]] VI''. Released over 10 years after ''Thunder Force V'', it came to be a massive disappointment amongst fans. Very short game length (even by shmup standards), the lack of the "direct" control scheme from ''V'', bosses that are made [[Breather Boss|pathetically easy]] thanks to a certain ship's [[Limit Break]], excessive [[Internal Homage|Internal Homages]], and stages that pale in comparison to the rest of the series; the last stage, for instance, looks like a cheap version of ''Thunder Force V'''s Stage 4. The developers of this game stated that they might do more games if this game does well. Well, bad news: judging by this game's lackluster sales, you won't be making new games.
* ''[[Thunder Force]] VI''. Released over 10 years after ''Thunder Force V'', it came to be a massive disappointment amongst fans. Very short game length (even by shmup standards), the lack of the "direct" control scheme from ''V'', bosses that are made [[Breather Boss|pathetically easy]] thanks to a certain ship's [[Limit Break]], excessive [[Internal Homage|Internal Homages]], and stages that pale in comparison to the rest of the series; the last stage, for instance, looks like a cheap version of ''Thunder Force V'''s Stage 4. The developers of this game stated that they might do more games if this game does well. Well, bad news: judging by this game's lackluster sales, you won't be making new games.
* The fourth game in the ''[[Avernum]]'' series switched from the antiquated engine and sketch-like, endearing graphics of the first three to something more powerful and ([[Uncanny Valley|theoretically]]) more realistic, and hence got hit with [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]. Since the new engine was taken from ''[[Geneforge]]'', it also got hit with [[They Copied It, So It Sucks]]. And since the plot was quite similar to that of the third game, it was also subject to [[Its the Same So It Sucks]]. Then there were the complaints when the game was taken on its own merits...
* The fourth game in the ''[[Avernum]]'' series switched from the antiquated engine and sketch-like, endearing graphics of the first three to something more powerful and ([[Uncanny Valley|theoretically]]) more realistic, and hence got hit with [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]. Since the new engine was taken from ''[[Geneforge]]'', it also got hit with [[They Copied It, So It Sucks]]. And since the plot was quite similar to that of the third game, it was also subject to [[Its the Same So It Sucks]]. Then there were the complaints when the game was taken on its own merits...
* The ''[[Spider-Man]]'' movie spinoff games demonstrated much the same path as the movies: the first one is good, the second is ''awesome'', then things go a bit downhill. Fortunately, ''Web of Shadows'' was there to fix matters after ''Friend or Foe'', which we [[Fanon Discontinuity|do not talk about]]
* The ''[[Spider-Man]]'' movie spinoff games demonstrated much the same path as the movies: the first one is good, the second is ''awesome'', then things go a bit downhill. Fortunately, ''Web of Shadows'' was there to fix matters after ''Friend or Foe'', which we [[Fanon Discontinuity|do not talk about]]
* The ''[[Shining Force]]'' series really was ''the'' SRPG series in the Sega Genesis era topping off with an amazing if little-known three part finale on the [[Sega Saturn]]. Attempts to branch off into the action-adventure genre have varied between mediocre-but-passable (''SF Neo'', ''SF EXA'', ''Shining Soul II'') to forgettable (''Shining Tears'', the original ''Shining Soul''). Atlus and Sega did a competent job with the [[Game Boy Advance]] [[Enhanced Remake]] of the first ''Shining Force''. Fans have been waiting for years to see if a remake of ''Shining Force II'' will surface, but it's looking increasingly unlikely every day.
* The ''[[Shining Force]]'' series really was ''the'' SRPG series in the Sega Genesis era topping off with an amazing if little-known three part finale on the [[Sega Saturn]]. Attempts to branch off into the action-adventure genre have varied between mediocre-but-passable (''SF Neo'', ''SF EXA'', ''Shining Soul II'') to forgettable (''Shining Tears'', the original ''Shining Soul''). Atlus and Sega did a competent job with the [[Game Boy Advance]] [[Enhanced Remake]] of the first ''Shining Force''. Fans have been waiting for years to see if a remake of ''Shining Force II'' will surface, but it's looking increasingly unlikely every day.
* Many famous pre-''[[Halo (Video Game)|Halo]]'' shooters did NOT age well with time. The reboots of ''[[Turok (Video Game)|Turok]]'' and ''[[Wolfenstein (Video Game)|Wolfenstein]]'' were pretty much run-off-the-mill regenerating health shooters (to speak nothing of Oblivion), ''[[Deus Ex Invisible War (Video Game)|Deus Ex Invisible War]]'' was panned by fans who hated how the game was simplified. Only ''[[Marathon (Video Game)|Marathon]]'' and ''[[Doom (Video Game)|Doom]]'' made it out unscathed.
* Many famous pre-''[[Halo (series)|Halo]]'' shooters did NOT age well with time. The reboots of ''[[Turok (series)|Turok]]'' and ''[[Wolfenstein (2009 video game)|Wolfenstein]]'' were pretty much run-off-the-mill regenerating health shooters (to speak nothing of Oblivion), ''[[Deus Ex: Invisible War|Deus Ex Invisible War]]'' was panned by fans who hated how the game was simplified. Only ''[[Marathon Trilogy|Marathon]]'' and ''[[Doom (series)|Doom]]'' made it out unscathed.
** On the other hand, all of ''[[Wolfenstein 3D (Video Game)|Wolfenstein 3D]]'s'' ''sequels'' were critical and commercial successes, while ''Doom 3'' now seems to be experiencing a spot of retroactive [[Hype Backlash]].
** On the other hand, all of ''[[Wolfenstein 3D]]'s'' ''sequels'' were critical and commercial successes, while ''Doom 3'' now seems to be experiencing a spot of retroactive [[Hype Backlash]].
* [[Madden NFL (Video Game)|Madden NFL]] and similiar sport game series are notorious for being continued every year, usually with next to no changes in gameplay or even graphics. The main difference is updated statistics and players.
* [[Madden NFL]] and similiar sport game series are notorious for being continued every year, usually with next to no changes in gameplay or even graphics. The main difference is updated statistics and players.
* The arcade version of ''[[Beatmania IIDX]] [[Numbered Sequels|9th Style]]'' didn't go so well with fans. The judgment timing windows are inconsistent from song to song; one song may be ridiculously easy to score on, another may feel very tight, another may be off, etc. In addition, ''9th Style'' took out the Effector, a staple of the series, and a [[Game Breaking Bug]] sometimes causes the game to crash upon selecting "Quasar".
* The arcade version of ''[[Beatmania IIDX]] [[Numbered Sequels|9th Style]]'' didn't go so well with fans. The judgment timing windows are inconsistent from song to song; one song may be ridiculously easy to score on, another may feel very tight, another may be off, etc. In addition, ''9th Style'' took out the Effector, a staple of the series, and a [[Game Breaking Bug]] sometimes causes the game to crash upon selecting "Quasar".
** Ditto ''[[Dance Dance Revolution]] X'' and ''X2'', especially the console versions.
** Ditto ''[[Dance Dance Revolution]] X'' and ''X2'', especially the console versions.
* [[Spyro the Dragon]] was a great platforming-game with nicely designed, varied levels and really good music. Spyro 2 and 3 were arguably even better. Then came Enter the Dragonfly, which suffered from uninspired level-design, [[Loads and Loads of Loading]], (they even had loading-screens ''for the loading-screens!'') terrible graphics, terrible voice-acting, and being so glitchy that achieving [[One Hundred Percent Completion]] was basically impossible.
* [[Spyro the Dragon]] was a great platforming-game with nicely designed, varied levels and really good music. Spyro 2 and 3 were arguably even better. Then came Enter the Dragonfly, which suffered from uninspired level-design, [[Loads and Loads of Loading]], (they even had loading-screens ''for the loading-screens!'') terrible graphics, terrible voice-acting, and being so glitchy that achieving [[One Hundred Percent Completion]] was basically impossible.
* [[Bloody Roar]]. First game: New and unbalanced concept, but some fun novelty. Second game: Takes everything good about the first game, polishes it up, adds a decent story and you have a surprisngly simple yet tactical fighter. Third game: Needlessly dumbed down and possibly worth playing if you can't find Soul Calbiur. Fourth game: extremely dumbed down and unbalanced, with the old staff long since having left, and featuring new (terrible) character designs, and making it much, much easier to spam (this also defining the reputation the series has). Fifth game: As sequels go, its on par with Batman and Robin. But with worse acting.
* [[Bloody Roar]]. First game: New and unbalanced concept, but some fun novelty. Second game: Takes everything good about the first game, polishes it up, adds a decent story and you have a surprisngly simple yet tactical fighter. Third game: Needlessly dumbed down and possibly worth playing if you can't find Soul Calbiur. Fourth game: extremely dumbed down and unbalanced, with the old staff long since having left, and featuring new (terrible) character designs, and making it much, much easier to spam (this also defining the reputation the series has). Fifth game: As sequels go, its on par with Batman and Robin. But with worse acting.
* ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]]'' fell into this once the series [[Polygon Ceiling|went 3D]]. The ''[[Sonic Adventure (Video Game)|Sonic Adventure]]'' series was considered excellent despite minor flaws. ''[[Sonic Heroes (Video Game)|Sonic Heroes]]'' was considered good, but not as good as ''Sonic Adventure'' and made some of the problems worse. It reached a low point in ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (Video Game)|Sonic 2006]]'', a rushed, glitch-ridden mess that is near-universally despised by gamers and critics alike. The trend finally began reversing with ''[[Sonic Unleashed (Video Game)|Sonic Unleashed]]'', with the subsequent [[Wii]] version of ''[[Sonic Colors (Video Game)|Sonic Colors]]'' being lauded by fans as the best 3D title in the franchise.
* ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]]'' fell into this once the series [[Polygon Ceiling|went 3D]]. The ''[[Sonic Adventure]]'' series was considered excellent despite minor flaws. ''[[Sonic Heroes]]'' was considered good, but not as good as ''Sonic Adventure'' and made some of the problems worse. It reached a low point in ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (video game)|Sonic 2006]]'', a rushed, glitch-ridden mess that is near-universally despised by gamers and critics alike. The trend finally began reversing with ''[[Sonic Unleashed]]'', with the subsequent [[Wii]] version of ''[[Sonic Colors]]'' being lauded by fans as the best 3D title in the franchise.
* ''[[Call of Duty]]'' is starting to get this with a new game getting released yearly with 8 games so far and people starting to realize they are paying for the exact same game with a makeover.
* ''[[Call of Duty]]'' is starting to get this with a new game getting released yearly with 8 games so far and people starting to realize they are paying for the exact same game with a makeover.
* ''[[LEGO Island]] 2: The Brickster's Revenge'' is somewhere between this and [[Contested Sequel]]. It was beyond rushed to the shelves, and the final product a very extreme case of [[Loads and Loads of Loading]], dull and lifeless voice acting, painfully linear gameplay, no replay factor, [[Chuck Cunningham Syndrome|a removal of a lot of characters]], [[Guide Dang It|little explanation to anything]], and mediocre animation.
* ''[[Lego Island]] 2: The Brickster's Revenge'' is somewhere between this and [[Contested Sequel]]. It was beyond rushed to the shelves, and the final product a very extreme case of [[Loads and Loads of Loading]], dull and lifeless voice acting, painfully linear gameplay, no replay factor, [[Chuck Cunningham Syndrome|a removal of a lot of characters]], [[Guide Dang It|little explanation to anything]], and mediocre animation.
* The first two episodes of ''[[Eye of the Beholder (Video Game)|Eye of the Beholder]]'', while not revolutionary, were excellent dungeon crawlers and the second is recognized as an [[Even Better Sequel]]. Then Westwood went on to work on [[Lands of Lore]] but SSI decided to make another sequel anyway. The result was a game that brought back many of the flaws of the original and even amplified them, with absurd mazes and frustrating difficulty, and suffered from a mediocrely programmed engine too.
* The first two episodes of ''[[Eye of the Beholder]]'', while not revolutionary, were excellent dungeon crawlers and the second is recognized as an [[Even Better Sequel]]. Then Westwood went on to work on [[Lands of Lore]] but SSI decided to make another sequel anyway. The result was a game that brought back many of the flaws of the original and even amplified them, with absurd mazes and frustrating difficulty, and suffered from a mediocrely programmed engine too.
* The general consensus of the ''[[Star Fox]]'' series after ''[[Star Fox 64]]''. There's so much [[Fan Myopia]] that it has lead to one of the most [[Broken Base|broken]] series of all time. [[Nintendo]] themselves have caught on to the decrease in sales, and even though Miyamoto joked about it, if sales for ''Star Fox 64 3D'' weren't decent, then the series probably would've been down the tubes.
* The general consensus of the ''[[Star Fox]]'' series after ''[[Star Fox 64]]''. There's so much [[Fan Myopia]] that it has lead to one of the most [[Broken Base|broken]] series of all time. [[Nintendo]] themselves have caught on to the decrease in sales, and even though Miyamoto joked about it, if sales for ''Star Fox 64 3D'' weren't decent, then the series probably would've been down the tubes.
* The first two ''[[Flat Out (Video Game)|Flat Out]]'' games were well-known for their destructible environments and ragdoll driver physics - the most amusing parts being the mini-games that involved the player launching their driver out of his car into various targets and watching him flop around in pain. Five years separated the second and third games, and development was taken up by Team 6 Games (of ''European Street Racer'' infamy) while Bugbear Interactive worked on ''[[Ridge Racer]]: Unbounded''. Unfortunately, Team 6's ''FlatOut'' game looks ugly, is riddled with bugs, and none of the tracks are fun to navigate.
* The first two ''[[Flat Out]]'' games were well-known for their destructible environments and ragdoll driver physics - the most amusing parts being the mini-games that involved the player launching their driver out of his car into various targets and watching him flop around in pain. Five years separated the second and third games, and development was taken up by Team 6 Games (of ''European Street Racer'' infamy) while Bugbear Interactive worked on ''[[Ridge Racer]]: Unbounded''. Unfortunately, Team 6's ''FlatOut'' game looks ugly, is riddled with bugs, and none of the tracks are fun to navigate.
* ''[[Earnest Evans (Video Game)|Earnest Evans]]'' isn't so well regarded as ''[[El Viento (Video Game)|El Viento]]'', in part due to poor gameplay and design and most infamously, poorly done graphics, especially on the titular hero, who is made up of multiple sprites put together to create the illusion of more fluid movement, but only succeeded in making Earnest look like a deranged marionette. The cutscenes in ''Earnest Evans'' are commonly poorly done, though they were removed completely from the American version, which tried to make it a sequel rather than a prequel to ''El Viento''. The Earnest Evans trilogy ended with the Japan-only title ''Annet Futatabi'', a ''[[Golden Axe]]'' ripoff whose most outstanding points were cutscenes and copious [[Fake Difficulty]].
* ''[[Earnest Evans]]'' isn't so well regarded as ''[[El Viento]]'', in part due to poor gameplay and design and most infamously, poorly done graphics, especially on the titular hero, who is made up of multiple sprites put together to create the illusion of more fluid movement, but only succeeded in making Earnest look like a deranged marionette. The cutscenes in ''Earnest Evans'' are commonly poorly done, though they were removed completely from the American version, which tried to make it a sequel rather than a prequel to ''El Viento''. The Earnest Evans trilogy ended with the Japan-only title ''Annet Futatabi'', a ''[[Golden Axe]]'' ripoff whose most outstanding points were cutscenes and copious [[Fake Difficulty]].
* A ''[[Super Mario World (Video Game)|Super Mario World]]'' hack series, [http://u9.getuploader.com/SIG Super Sig World] is arguably the ultimate example of poorly done sequels in large numbers, with TWENTY FIVE installments in about two or three years. It's debatable how terrible each individual game is (although the best ones are merely average, and the amount of reused content is kind of staggering), but still making a 70 level game every three months seems like overkill.
* A ''[[Super Mario World (video game)|Super Mario World]]'' hack series, [http://u9.getuploader.com/SIG Super Sig World] is arguably the ultimate example of poorly done sequels in large numbers, with TWENTY FIVE installments in about two or three years. It's debatable how terrible each individual game is (although the best ones are merely average, and the amount of reused content is kind of staggering), but still making a 70 level game every three months seems like overkill.




== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
* ''[[Static Shock]]'' and ''[[The Zeta Project]]'' are part of the DCAU, which also contains such well loved classics as ''[[Batman the Animated Series]]'', ''[[Superman the Animated Series]]'', ''[[Justice League]]'', and ''[[Batman Beyond]]'', all acclaimed for their mature story lines, great characters and voice actors, and excellent animation. However, those two are considered far less intruging, as they are taken to much lighter tone, as they lack many aspects that made the DCAU so memorable. While the two were far from terrible, and they still had their fair share of likeable characters, and a few good episodes, they are far below the other series. Part of this reason is because of the lack of [[Bruce Timm]] and [[Paul Dini]]. (Though Dini wrote a few ''Static Shock episodes.)
* ''[[Static Shock]]'' and ''[[The Zeta Project]]'' are part of the DCAU, which also contains such well loved classics as ''[[Batman: The Animated Series]]'', ''[[Superman: The Animated Series]]'', ''[[Justice League]]'', and ''[[Batman Beyond]]'', all acclaimed for their mature story lines, great characters and voice actors, and excellent animation. However, those two are considered far less intruging, as they are taken to much lighter tone, as they lack many aspects that made the DCAU so memorable. While the two were far from terrible, and they still had their fair share of likeable characters, and a few good episodes, they are far below the other series. Part of this reason is because of the lack of [[Bruce Timm]] and [[Paul Dini]]. (Though Dini wrote a few ''Static Shock episodes.)
** There is also ''[[Gotham Girls]]'', a web-series. It is considered more of a parody series, and its official place in the DCAU is disputed. There is also a web-series based off of Lobo, and as with ''Gotham Girls'', its continuity status is not known. Lobo is not considered too good, however.
** There is also ''[[Gotham Girls]]'', a web-series. It is considered more of a parody series, and its official place in the DCAU is disputed. There is also a web-series based off of Lobo, and as with ''Gotham Girls'', its continuity status is not known. Lobo is not considered too good, however.
* Even though it's still running, this is the general consensus of ''[[Planet Sheen]]'', the spinoff-sequel to ''[[Jimmy Neutron]].''
* Even though it's still running, this is the general consensus of ''[[Planet Sheen]]'', the spinoff-sequel to ''[[Jimmy Neutron]].''
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[[Category:Category:Broken image markup]]