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When this happens in the fandom rather than in-universe, it's a [[Memetic Badass]].
 
Contrast [[King in the Mountain]], [[Malicious Slander]]. Anything from [[The Time of Myths]] is invariably '''Shrouded in Myth'''. Compare [[Legend Fades to Myth]].
 
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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* The Irregulars are completely foreign entities that surpass the strength of almost anybody in the ''[[Tower of God]]''. Where the came from apart from outside the tower and what they want is a mystery to anybody.
* This would be pretty much the entire point of ''[[Irresponsible Captain Tylor]]''.{{context}}
* The wildly conflicting rumors about Vash from ''[[Trigun]]'' become an issue in the very first episode. Even at the end of the series, the fact that a [[Obfuscating Stupidity|dorky]], [[Technical Pacifist]] is the world's most notorious outlaw is still stunning everyone who learns the truth. He finds it useful on occasion to play into the stories surrounding him. Many of the rumors about Vash in the first episode could just as easily describe the 12-foot tall criminal Descartes.
** This culminates in a showdown between Descartes, the bounty hunter Loose Ruth, and (sort of) Vash, with Ruth and Descartes believing each other to be the real deal pretty much solely because they both wear red and have blond hair.
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* Keima from ''[[The World God Only Knows]]'' ''is'' a weird guy deserving of the title [[Otaku|ota]][[Megane]], but his reputation as seen [http://www.mangareader.net/120-6010-5/the-world-god-only-knows/chapter-51.html here], while partially true, is a little off.
* Guts' existence is completely obscure in ''[[Berserk]]'', especially when he takes up his Black Swordsman persona after the Eclipse. Before the Eclipse, it was well known that there was a mighty man among the [[Famed in Story|Band of the Hawk]] who slayed 100 soldiers by himself, thus earning the title "[[Earn Your Title|the Hundred Man Slayer.]]" His actual name was more well known then, but after the demise of the first band, he became nothing more than myth, but his legendary feats continued to disperse and became so overblown that now a lot of people believe that he killed a whooping ''1000 soldiers'' by himself.
* The woman known only by the pseudonym "Raimu (Lime) Kawasaki" in ''[[Bakuon!!]]'' Believed to be an upperclassman by the members of the Okanoue Girls' School Motorcycle Club, she is in fact a woman in her thirties (at least), who appears to be near-legendary in Japan's motorcycle racing circles (two racers in their forties refer to her as "sempai"). Despite this almost nothing is known about her. This is only exacerbated by the fact that [[The Faceless|she never takes off her helmet]] -- at least not on screen.
 
== [[Comic Books]] ==
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== [[Fan Works]] ==
* In ''[[Aeon Natum Engel]]'' this is a reason behind the biggest [[It Got Worse]] in the Operation <s>It got worse</s> CATO: The whole reason behind the invasion of Iceland was to capture Moloch, the dormant Herald. The intelligence presumed that it will only be slightly larger than the {EVA}s, but when it finally surfaced, it was at least as big as the city.
* In the fourth chapter of ''[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7436420/1/Pocky_in_Ramen Pocky in Ramen]'', a ''[[Death Note]]'' fanfic, Mello becomes renowned among the Wammy's residents as "the kid who pulled a gun on [[Badass Grandpa|Mr. Wammy]]... at age three!" In reality, he was only doing it out of fear, and never actually fires the gun.
* ''[[The Elements of Harmony and the Savior of Worlds]]'': Over the course of the 1500 years that have passed since she helped to found Equestria, this has happened to Megan.
* "Mr. Black" (in reality a disguised [[Harry Potter]]), in ''[[Make a Wish (fanfic)|Make a Wish]]''. Over the course of a world tour he takes before what he believes is his inevitable death at the hands of Voldemort, "Mr. Black" acquires -- thanks to a series of coincidences, some subtle guidance by a clan of prescient shopkeepers, and far too many people drawing reasonable but wrong conclusions from faulty data -- acquires an entire legend that makes him out to be an unstoppable immortal former Dark Wizard, possibly even an incarnation of [[The Grim Reaper|Death itself]], responsible for the fall of [[Atlantis]], who is seeking to redeem himself by hunting down Dark Wizards in the modern era.
* "Ms. Aoyama" from ''[[Desperately Seeking Ranma]]'', who appears to be the representative of an extraterrestrial intelligence agency that knows just about ''everything'' about ''everybody'', and who has demonstrated that she can make any electronic device anywhere in the world dance to her tune. What little the governments of the world actually know about her is supplemented with terrified speculation about her origins, employers, and limitations (if any). (In reality, she's [[Ranma ½|Nabiki Tendo]]. The persona began as a one-off gag to intimidate her sister Akane and Ryouga, but it kept being useful afterwards. And using a combination of [[Sufficiently Advanced Magic]] ''and'' [[Sufficiently Advanced Technology]] she has slowly started to [[Becoming the Mask|Become the Mask]] and by the end of the existing story material has pretty much become what she's pretended to be except for origins and employers.)
* Alex "Terawatt" Mack in ''[[The Secret Return of Alex Mack]]''. Outside of the SRI, her team and her family, almost no one really knows the limits of her powers.
 
== [[Film]] ==
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** Becoming Shrouded in Myth is the first step to becoming a Hero of the Horn.
* In Steven Erikson's ''[[Malazan Book of the Fallen]]'', Anomander Rake is widely seen as one of the most über-[[Badass]] characters in that entire [[The Verse|universe]], despite the fact that we haven't seen him do all that much in the books.
* ''[[Discworld]]'':
** In [[Terry Pratchett]]'s ''[[Discworld/Interesting Times|Interesting Times]]'', Rincewind is surprised to hear the weird and wonderful theories people develop about the Great Wizzard (sic), including being nine feet tall, multiheaded, and breathing fire. Rincewind tends to resent his reputation for always escaping danger not because it is untrue ''per se'', but because people assume he then must be a great hero who defeats his enemies, rather than his deliberate, actual attempts to be a well-planned (but breathing) coward.
** Similar rumors swirl around Vimes in several books. In ''[[Discworld/The Fifth Elephant|The Fifth Elephant]]'', his traveling party's killing seven bandits leads to [[Gossip Evolution]] claiming that ''he'' did it alone, and it was thirty men—and a dog. In ''[[Discworld/Monstrous Regiment|Monstrous Regiment]]'', a foreign country dubs Vimes "[[The Butcher]]" for propaganda reasons. Vetinari himself also banks on the unspoken but generalized fear of Vimes both criminals and nobles have, knowing that some insinuations would be true for those not aware of the steps Vimes takes to control them.
*** Of course, the truth is pretty impressive: "Sam Vimes [[Discworld/Jingo|once arrested Vetinari for treason]]. Sam Vimes [[Discworld/Guards! Guards!|once arrested a dragon]]. Sam Vimes [[Discworld/Jingo|stopped a war between nations by arresting two high commands]]. (He's an arresting fellow, Sam Vimes.) Sam Vimes [[Discworld/The Fifth Elephant|killed a werewolf with his bare hands]], and carries law with him like a lamp. Watchmen across half the continent will say that [[Incorruptible Pure Pureness|Sam Vimes is as straight as an arrow, can't be corrupted, won't be turned, never took a bribe]]. The Assassins' Guild ''refuses'' contracts on Sam Vimes."
**** Strictly, it was Carrot who arrested the dragon and Vimes didn't actually kill a werewolf with his bare hands, but the rest is all true. Also, the Assassin's Guild refuses contracts both because he's so unkillable, and because his death would leave Ankh-Morpork in a shambles, but still, they dassn't try to kill him.
**** [[Discworld/Thud!|And that's not to mention that he arrested an]] [[Eldritch Abomination]] within himself [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|by sheer force of autodiscipline]]. And he doesn't even know it. Seriously, the man is more of a subversion...
*** It's mentioned in passing at least once that city police forces that pattern themselves like the Ankh-Morpork City Watch are often called "Sammies" (even in areas where most people haven't heard of him), in part thanks to the Ankh-Morpork trained watchmen who leave the city to take up officer positions elsewhere.
**** Presumably a reference to the fact that British police officers are nicknamed "Bobbies" in reference to Robert Peel, the man who wrote the <s> book</s> precepts on How To Be A Good Copper.
** Also on the Discworld is Lu Tze. His deeds as an agent of the History Monks are so legendary among the few who know of the secret society that no apprentice who hears the tales suspects that Lu Tze is actually one of the temple's janitors. Even when learning the truth, it can be tempting to discount the stories or underestimate him... until you find out why Rule One on Discworld is [[Old Master|"Never act incautiously when confronted by a small, old, wrinkly, bald smiling man!"]]
** Powerful witches on the Discworld, such as Black Aliss, the ultimate wicked witch, and Granny Weatherwax, the ultimate ''good'' witch, tend to get shrouded in myth. Miss Treason from ''[[Discworld/Wintersmith|Wintersmith]]'' shrouds ''herself'' in myth (as part of what she calls "Boffo", the power of becoming what people expect) in order to gain respect as a witch.
** And in the book ''[[Discworld/Making Money|Making Money]]'' this gets parodied. Multiple times there are myths surrounding [[Magnificent Bastard]] Vetinari or personal possessions of his, like that he has a sword made from the iron taken out of the blood of a thousand men, but every time it shows exactly how cheap and tacky these gimmicks would be compared to the pure awesome of Vetinari just being Vetinari.
* [[David Gemmell]]'s character Druss the Legend from ''Legend'' and various prequels. He's fully aware that he's mortal and fallible and that the bards have exaggerated his prowess, but he also knows the value of his legend to morale.
** Although the legend isn't all '''that''' exaggerated: drugged and ambushed by five assassins, who got in the first blow with a club to his head, sixty-year-old Druss kills three of them, then captures and starts to interrogate the fourth. The fifth assassin, who'd held back, picks that moment to attack, and the captive dies as a human shield. Assassin Five wisely runs away.
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* The Comte de Saint-Germain and, to a lesser extent, any Godwalker in ''[[Unknown Armies]]''.
* The nature of the [[Big Bad|Sea Hags]] in ''[[Fifty Fathoms]]''. A problem for any party who wants to save the world.
*While ''[[Mage: The Ascension]]'' canon has introduced players to some Traditions Archmages like Senex, it has always been vague about the true nature and motivations of Control and the other top leadership of the Technocracy.
 
== [[Video Games]] ==
* Master Chief, the main protagonist of the ''[[Halo]]'' trilogy, became something of a "demon" in the eyes of the highly religious aliens of the Covenant after he destroyed Installation 04 (Halo).
** Spartans have always been feared by the Covenant as demons, because what else besides a supernatural evil could possibly stand up to the might of the [[Proud Warrior Race GuysGuy|Sangheili]]? ''Glasslands'' reveals that some of the more superstitious of Sangheili believe that they were dead humans brought back to life. The sangheili focus-character dismissed this until he actually met (read: was beaten to a pulp by) one.
* In ''[[Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World]]'', [[Tales of Symphonia|Lloyd]] [[Idiot Hero|Irving]] of all people seems like a character Shrouded in Myth to new protagonist Emil, especially since he's described as [[The Messiah]] by all his former allies, but has seemingly turned into a [[Rogue Protagonist]] at the start of the game, and had murdered Emil's parents before his very eyes. {{spoiler|The truth? [[A Wizard Did It|A Decus did it]].}}
* In ''[[Baldur's Gate]] 2'', Renal the "Bloodscalp", head of the Shadow Thieves in Athkatla {{spoiler|(but not really; he's a front man)}} is disappointed when he first meet you, having expected something more impressive. One of the possible dialogue options is to tell him that you expected more from such a high-ranking [[The Syndicate|Shadow Thief]].
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== [[Web Comics]] ==
* In ''[[Get Medieval]]'', Asher gains a reputation as a invincible, miracle-working warrior, much to his consternation. And even moreso when Sir Gerard reminds him that people (namely, Gerard's superiors) will expect him to repeat his [[Ass Pull]] victories on a regular, reliable basis.
* Keen Kotoru from ''[httphttps://wwwweb.archive.org/web/20201130225857/http://magickitsune.com/ Fox Tails]'' [http://www.magickitsune.com/strips/20060111.html suffers]{{Dead link}} [http://www.magickitsune.com/strips/20060329.html from this]{{Dead link}} [http://www.magickitsune.com/strips/20070511.html regularly]{{Dead link}}, eventually undergoing a kidnapping attempt for his status... at which point [http://www.magickitsune.com/strips/20080130.html the rumors work in his favor]{{Dead link}}.
* ''[[Bob the Angry Flower]]'' brings us [http://www.angryflower.com/108.html The Man on the Hill.] But it turns out he's pretty lame.
* In ''[[DDG]]'' either Zip is made of sterner stuff than we've been led to believe, or [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|Netta]]'s [https://web.archive.org/web/20140504043349/http://www.sincomics.com/phpAlbum/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=DDG%2FDDG12.jpg&var2=2 exploits] have been exaggerated somewhat.
* In ''[[Drowtales]]'', Quain'tana is shrouded in myth to her daughter {{spoiler|(actually granddaughter)}} Ariel, who daydreams of the day she'll meet her famous mother. Unfortunately, when her wish is finally granted, Quain isn't exactly the warmest parent.
* Subverted in the ''[[Ciem Webcomic Series]]''. No matter how many battles Ciem fights, including many of them alone, she is never regarded by the criminal underworld (with exception of the Hebbleskin Gang) as anything more than Emeraldon's ''sidekick''. To the media, she manages to go over six years without registering as anything other than "a curiosity." On the mayor of Dirbine's birthday, she is ''merely allowed'' to show up and say hello to the crowd. No key-to-the-city-type thing. The crowd neither loves nor hates her particularly; but most of the time, [[No Hero to His Valet|they simply ''ignore'' her]]. When reporters actually do try to get together a list of public perceptions; it's like the townsfolk [[Laser-Guided Amnesia|merely blocked it out of their own minds]].
* This is a major theme of ''[[Girl Genius]]'', with basically all of the main characters known only through wild mixtures of exaggeration and utter fabrication.
** Othar has a reputation. To the point of being a [[Villain with Good Publicity]] ''and'' a [[Hero with Bad Publicity]] at the same time. After all, even other mad people consider him a complete nutcase, so he's just too crazy for most sane folk to track what he actually did some or other time.
** The protagonist gets a taste of this after her first involvement in a publicly visible event (partly on purpose, partly due to others taking advantage of her,) which results in [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20070226 all sorts of ludicrous rumors circulating]. Of course, half of those rumors were ''not'' too far off: Agatha DID project a hundred-meters-tall version of herself over the town whose voice DID mess with the enemies, she DID bring down allies 'from heaven' (they descended from a blimp) who DID look like the Heterodynes - though a hallucinogenic gas improved this (and [[Mushroom Samba|added details]]). The only inconsistency seems to be the wings. Nonetheless, they exaggerated tone that the soldier was relaying the story (and the words he used) made the story, while technically accurate, seem utterly unbelievable. By the time rumors about this [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20070228 reach Mechanicsburg], it's a contradictory swarm of wild stories, even though a grain of truth is evident in most of them… if you already know what it is.
** A more straightforward example is the rumors once they reach [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20070228 Mechanicsburg] and theThe Storyteller relaying to the Baron about [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20110504 what people are saying about him].
* [[Word of God|Erin Ptah]] of ''[[And Shine Heaven Now]]'' reveals that by the time ''[[The Colbert Report|The Eagle of Hermes]]'' happens, [[Hellsing|Seras Victoria]] has this status in the public's eye, only being seen a couple of times since the Millennium invasion.
* ''[[Tales of the Questor]]'': [https://web.archive.org/web/20130301034743/http://www.rhjunior.com/totq/00600.html trying to learn what the dragon is like.]
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** Annie herself after one summer in the Forest (plus one {{spoiler|brief, but spectacular run-in with some of Ysengrin's [[The Starscream|less-than-subordinate]]-s}}) [http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1357 became a semi-mythological figure] out there.
* ''[[The Unspeakable Vault of Doom]]'' presents: "[http://www.goominet.com/unspeakable-vault/vault/409/ The nature of the Beast]" (the medieval legend vs. the awful truth).
* ''[[Chasing the Sunset]]'' has Magister Malvenicus ([[Dramatic Thunder|KRA-KA-TOWWWW!]]).
* ''[[Schlock Mercenary]]'', after all the madness the Toughs have been through.
** Kaff [https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2013-01-06 now] is "the great Captain Tagon, killer of the battleplates". (yesYes, in plural).
*** This has an amusing postscriptum [https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2016-07-13 here]. The actual reason for such deference is ''Manicouagan'' being mostly helpless at the moment - it was [https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2016-04-24 hacked by Petey] and didn't even 'port on its own; until proper AI control is restored, [https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2002-03-06 they are in position mostly to sweat and think what a big juicy target they are].
** The company are also rumored to have "[https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2016-05-02 stolen the entire city of Credomar]".
** Indirectly, this adds another layer, sincewhen [https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2016-05-02 those who take these stories with a grain of salt] assume it's the Toughs' own spin.
{{quote|'''Antossa''': I don't want rumors. I want an actual threat assessment.
'''Tess''': Their marketing manager would be a truly formidable opponent. }}
** Of course, if you have read the comic, it should be no surprise that with or without all the silly cover-ups their dossier apparently [https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2014-11-16 is quite formidable] and ''[https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2016-07-19 became required reading]'' in certain circles. As a Gzeaul corporate security commander [https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2017-06-08 tells Tagon], «every respectable security agency» has to know something about a wildcard this big.
* ''[https://mr-culexuswww.deviantart.com/mr-culexus/art/All-time-high-in-celery-sales-117665183 All time high in celery sales]'' by Mr-Culexus has [[Alternative Character Interpretation]] of ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' fanon character Commissar Fuklaw. You know how [[Ciaphas Cain]] above was turned into propaganda poster boy? Well, he had it easy...
* ''[[Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic]]'' shows the early stage, when "song about something that happened recently" was [https://www.yafgc.net/comic/1062-the-challenge-begins/ the first challenge of a big bard competition]. They proceed with events we have seen in the comic — presumably in somewhat embellished versions, considering the styles.
 
== [[Western Animation]] ==
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