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Of course, this trope has one primary exception, if the hero comes from a place where scimitars and sabers are used as a "default", though in these case it's more like because everyone use them. See also [[Weapon of Choice]] and [[Good Weapon, Evil Weapon]]. Expect to see it often in [[Qurac]]-like settings.
Of course, this trope has one primary exception, if the hero comes from a place where scimitars and sabers are used as a "default", though in these case it's more like because everyone use them. See also [[Weapon of Choice]] and [[Good Weapon, Evil Weapon]]. Expect to see it often in [[Qurac]]-like settings.
Compare and Contrast [[Katanas Are Just Better]], which is the Eastern equivalent to this trope.
Compare and Contrast [[Katanas Are Just Better]], which is the Eastern equivalent to this trope.



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== Played Straight ==

== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
=== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ===
* [[Vampire Hunter D|D]]'s crescent sword.
* [[Vampire Hunter D|D]]'s crescent sword.
* Many high-level enemies in ''[[Yaiba]]'' are armed with large scimitars, namely the [[Elite Mook|Mushroom Soldier]], [[Attack of the 50-Foot Whatever|Gold]] and [[Noble Demon|Gozuma]].
* Many high-level enemies in ''[[Yaiba]]'' are armed with large scimitars, namely the [[Elite Mook|Mushroom Soldier]], [[Attack of the 50-Foot Whatever|Gold]] and [[Noble Demon|Gozuma]].
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* An [[Elite Mook]] from ''[[Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple]]'' wields one.
* An [[Elite Mook]] from ''[[Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple]]'' wields one.


==[[Film]]==
===[[Film]]===

*Arabs used curved swords in [[Lawrence of Arabia]]. They are a coalition of tribes from a technological cul-de-sac fielding a horde of irregular cavalry outfitted to the needs of generations of rustling and feuding on horse-and-camelback. Perhaps you expect them to use rapiers?
*Arabs used curved swords in [[Lawrence of Arabia]]. They are a coalition of tribes from a technological cul-de-sac fielding a horde of irregular cavalry outfitted to the needs of generations of rustling and feuding on horse-and-camelback. Perhaps you expect them to use rapiers?


== [[Literature]] ==
=== [[Literature]] ===


* The Orcs in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''
* The Orcs in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''
** Played with in the [[The Lord of the Rings (film)|movies]] where elves too use curved Japanese-like weapons, but also Haradrim and Easterlings are shown wielding scimitars along with countless orcs.
** Played with in the [[The Lord of the Rings (film)|movies]] where elves too use curved Japanese-like weapons, but also Haradrim and Easterlings are shown wielding scimitars along with countless orcs.
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* In the fantasy novel ''[[Shadow Keep|Shadowkeep]]'' [[The Dragon]] pulls a large scimitar from his throne in order to take on the main characters.
* In the fantasy novel ''[[Shadow Keep|Shadowkeep]]'' [[The Dragon]] pulls a large scimitar from his throne in order to take on the main characters.


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=== [[Film]] ===

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== [[Film]] ==

* The huge swordsman in ''[[Raiders of the Lost Ark]]'' has a [[BFS|Big Fucking Scimitar]] and the Thugs in the sequel brandish curved swords too.
* The huge swordsman in ''[[Raiders of the Lost Ark]]'' has a [[BFS|Big Fucking Scimitar]] and the Thugs in the sequel brandish curved swords too.


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=== [[Tabletop Games]] ===

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== [[Tabletop Games]] ==

* Orcs and Goblins in ''[[Warhammer Fantasy]]'' indulge in scimitars. Also the [[The Undead|Tomb Kings armies]], which at least have a egyptian-like setting.
* Orcs and Goblins in ''[[Warhammer Fantasy]]'' indulge in scimitars. Also the [[The Undead|Tomb Kings armies]], which at least have a egyptian-like setting.
* [[Averted Trope|Averted]] in the [[Pathfinder]] RPG's main setting, in which the [[Saintly Church|Goddess of Healing, Redemption, and the Sun]] uses the scimitar, along with her clergy. Played straight with [[Demon Lords and Archdevils|the Mother of Monsters Lamashtu]], whose worshippers use both curve-bladed falchions and [[Kukris Are Kool|kukris]].
* [[Averted Trope|Averted]] in the [[Pathfinder]] RPG's main setting, in which the [[Saintly Church|Goddess of Healing, Redemption, and the Sun]] uses the scimitar, along with her clergy. Played straight with [[Demon Lords and Archdevils|the Mother of Monsters Lamashtu]], whose worshippers use both curve-bladed falchions and [[Kukris Are Kool|kukris]].


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=== [[Video Games]] ===

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== [[Video Games]] ==

* Orcs in ''[[Battle for Wesnoth]]'', and the Elves too ([[Your Mileage May Vary|depending on the occasion]]). Also the Naga.
* Orcs in ''[[Battle for Wesnoth]]'', and the Elves too ([[Your Mileage May Vary|depending on the occasion]]). Also the Naga.
* Marcellus in ''[[Onimusha]]''. Also Nobunaga's [[One-Winged Angel]] form from the third game.
* Marcellus in ''[[Onimusha]]''. Also Nobunaga's [[One-Winged Angel]] form from the third game.
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* In ''[[The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim]]'', the Alik'r all wield scimitars, though they aren't evil, just somewhat suspicious in the eyes of the more close-minded Nords of Skyrim. Nazir, who's a member of the [[Murder, Inc.|Dark Brotherhood]] fits this to a tee however.
* In ''[[The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim]]'', the Alik'r all wield scimitars, though they aren't evil, just somewhat suspicious in the eyes of the more close-minded Nords of Skyrim. Nazir, who's a member of the [[Murder, Inc.|Dark Brotherhood]] fits this to a tee however.


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== [[Web Comics]] ==

* In ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]]'' we have [[Overused Copycat Character|Zz'dtri]] who, being a clone of Drizzt, wields two scimitars and the Death Knight assaulting Azure City wields one and also the Beetle-men bandits. [[The Ditz|Crystal]]'s sword/dagger may count too.
* In ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]]'' we have [[Overused Copycat Character|Zz'dtri]] who, being a clone of Drizzt, wields two scimitars and the Death Knight assaulting Azure City wields one and also the Beetle-men bandits. [[The Ditz|Crystal]]'s sword/dagger may count too.
* In ''[[Looking for Group]]'' the enemy soldiers attacking Kethenecia in the past are armed with scimitars.
* In ''[[Looking for Group]]'' the enemy soldiers attacking Kethenecia in the past are armed with scimitars.


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=== [[Western Animation]] ===

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== [[Western Animation]] ==

* In ''[[Aladdin (Disney film)|Aladdin]]'' the guards chasing the titular hero wield scimitars.
* In ''[[Aladdin (Disney film)|Aladdin]]'' the guards chasing the titular hero wield scimitars.
* [[Looney Tunes|Hassan]], the huge arab guard who appears in some shorts and wields a massive scimitar.
* [[Looney Tunes|Hassan]], the huge arab guard who appears in some shorts and wields a massive scimitar.
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* The wicked Jack-In-the-Box in ''Fantasia2000'' wields a scimitar against the Tin Soldier. Ironically, because of the curved blade itself he ends up slipping and [[Disney Villain Death|falling into]] [[Kill It with Fire|a hot stove head-first]].
* The wicked Jack-In-the-Box in ''Fantasia2000'' wields a scimitar against the Tin Soldier. Ironically, because of the curved blade itself he ends up slipping and [[Disney Villain Death|falling into]] [[Kill It with Fire|a hot stove head-first]].


== Aversions ==

=== Aversions ===
=== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ===

== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==

* ''[[Bleach]]'' has [[Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass|Shunsui Kyoraku]]'s Shikai, which takes the form of two large scimitars.
* ''[[Bleach]]'' has [[Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass|Shunsui Kyoraku]]'s Shikai, which takes the form of two large scimitars.
** Also in the filler episode 287, which has a [[Arabian Nights Days]] setting features scimitar-looking Zanpakuto for everyone.
** Also in the filler episode 287, which has a [[Arabian Nights Days]] setting features scimitar-looking Zanpakuto for everyone.
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* In ''[[Sailor Moon]]'', Sailor Uranus uses the Space Sword, which is a curved sword that looks a lot like a jeweled scimitar. In this case, the fact that she has it is proof of her pure heart, since it's one of the three talismans and came out of her pure heart crystal.
* In ''[[Sailor Moon]]'', Sailor Uranus uses the Space Sword, which is a curved sword that looks a lot like a jeweled scimitar. In this case, the fact that she has it is proof of her pure heart, since it's one of the three talismans and came out of her pure heart crystal.


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=== [[Literature]] ===

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* ''[[1632]]'': There is nothing about sabers that makes them any more evil then any other weapon other then that few [[Aristocrats Are Evil|noblemen]] take service with the USE giving them a poor cavalry and hence making them unlikely to get good saber wielders. However people from other nations who use swords are indeed likely to be using curved weapons whether they are good or bad.
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* [[1632]]: There is nothing about sabers that makes them any more evil then any other weapon other then that few [[Aristocrats Are Evil| noblemen]] take service with the USE giving them a poor cavalry and hence making them unlikely to get good saber wielders. However people from other nations who use swords are indeed likely to be using curved weapons whether they are good or bad.
* In [[Belisarius Series]] the title character goes into battle once with a "Persian Sword."
* In [[Belisarius Series]] the title character goes into battle once with a "Persian Sword."
* ''[[Conan the Barbarian]]'' has also used several curved swords himself, including scimitars, sabers and tulwars ([[Knife Nut|which are wrongly described as long knives]]). He however often stated that he was at his best with a western longsword.
* ''[[Conan the Barbarian]]'' has also used several curved swords himself, including scimitars, sabers and tulwars ([[Knife Nut|which are wrongly described as long knives]]). He however often stated that he was at his best with a western longsword.
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'''[[Dirty Old Woman|Mrs Cosmopolite]]''': Perhaps they start out straight and get bendy with use. A lot of things do. }}
'''[[Dirty Old Woman|Mrs Cosmopolite]]''': Perhaps they start out straight and get bendy with use. A lot of things do. }}


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* Thong in ''[[Cave Dwellers]]''.
* Thong in ''[[Cave Dwellers]]''.
* Gai Xing from ''[[Red Cliff]]'' is seen using a dadao in battle, and is one of the good guys. Most of the other characters (both good and bad) use straight swords and pole weapons instead.
* Gai Xing from ''[[Red Cliff]]'' is seen using a dadao in battle, and is one of the good guys. Most of the other characters (both good and bad) use straight swords and pole weapons instead.


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* Mielikki, the good-aligned goddess of the woods in the [[Dungeons & Dragons]]' ''[[Forgotten Realms]]'' setting, uses a pair of scimitars. It's also the favoured weapon of her followers.


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* Mielikki, the good-aligned goddess of the woods in the [[Dungeons & Dragons|Dungeons&Dragons']] [[Forgotten Realms]] setting, uses a pair of scimitars. It's also the favoured weapon of her followers.


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* Kaleh, Kalenz and Li'Sarr from ''[[Battle for Wesnoth]]'', along with the good-aligned elves and orcs.
* Kaleh, Kalenz and Li'Sarr from ''[[Battle for Wesnoth]]'', along with the good-aligned elves and orcs.
* Both Altaïr and Ezio from ''[[Assassin's Creed]]'' have used curved blades. Also justified in the first game, which is taking place in the Holy Land after all.
* Both Altaïr and Ezio from ''[[Assassin's Creed]]'' have used curved blades. Also justified in the first game, which is taking place in the Holy Land after all.
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