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{{quote|'''Dracula:''' Well, I was remembering that when I was a child my father decided to teach me how to swim by grabbing me and throwing me into the river.}}
* [[Discworld]]'s Granny Weatherwax is often the benevolent version, especially with Tiffany Aching. According to Granny "witching school" (ie the world) gives you the exam ''first'', and then you spend the rest of the time finding out whether you passed. And everything is a test.
** Early in ''[[
** Also note Assassins' Guild tutor Alice Band, who punishes overconfidence in her students by sending them on missions to observe Sam Vimes. In ''[[
* From [[E. E. "Doc" Smith]]'s ''[[Lensman]]'' series, the appropriately named Mentor of Arisia is an example of this trope. Though Mentor does relent and give the protagonist some training in psychic combat, he generally avoids directly aiding his students and criticizes them for asking him for help or advice when they don't really need it. And since he's effectively omniscient, he ''always'' knows whether or not they really need it.
** Mentor's psychic combat training is a perfect example of this trope. He "trains" Kinnison how to defend himself psychically by ''continuously psychically attacking him''. The justification is that every mind is unique, so each person must develop his own method of defense. And the best way to develop callouses is to hit the tender part over and over. Though he does scale his attacks to Kinnison's ability to survive them.
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* Jones of ''[[Gunnerkrigg Court]]'' plainly [http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=394 told her student] she's going to instruct, but not spoon-feed ready solutions. Maybe this only means she doesn't feel it's her right to, but the detached precision is so much in her style that Annie suspected Jones is a robot and some [[Wild Mass Guessing|fans suspect]] she's a ''[[Physical God|goddess]]''.
* In ''[[Panthera]]'', you could argue that this is the relationship between [[Action Girl|Tigris]] and [[Naive Newcomer|Onca]]. There's distinctly more "Sink Or Swim" than "mentor", though.
* ''[[Schlock Mercenary]]'' had moments. When they made Liz (Nick's girlfriend) a specialist lieutenant, she got two of these in a row: "you are an officer now!" lesson from [https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2018-12-13 Tagon Senior]
== Western Animation ==
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