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== Real Life ==
* [[Humans Are the Real Monsters|UnfortunatelyAll too common in theany real worldsociety]] which places family first and all other considerations a distant second. Even in societies that don't, it is all too easy to carry on a societal grudge for things that happened generations ago, as generations of Hatfields and McCoys and other families around the world who carried down feuds through generations can attest.
* The Slave Trade. Far too often, an apology is made which goes something along the lines of "I'm sorry that my great-grandfather enslaved your great-grandfather.". This is somewhat more justified than most, considering the amount of influence the institution had (and still has) on American society among several others.
** All too common in a any society which places family first and all other considerations a distant second. Even in societies that don't, it is all too easy to carry on a societal grudge for things that happened generations ago.
* The punishment for high treason in Imperial China is referred to as the "nine exterminations"., Ii.e. execution of the criminal along with all of his relatives down to the ninth degree (by Chinese reckoning).
* The Slave Trade. Far too often, an apology is made which goes something along the lines of "I'm sorry that my great-grandfather enslaved your great-grandfather."
* Inverted by the city councils of Manchester and Salford in connection to the 2011 England riots., [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-14478498 Sincewhere parents who'swhose children took part in the riots were threatened with eviction from council housing.] Although thisThis is a bit of a grey area, since good behaviour is a requirement for staying in council housing in the first place.
* The punishment for high treason in Imperial China is referred to as the "nine exterminations". I.e. execution of the criminal along with all of his relatives down to the ninth degree (by Chinese reckoning).
* Inverted by the city councils of Manchester and Salford in connection to the 2011 England riots. [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-14478498 Since parents who's children took part in the riots were threatened with eviction from council housing.] Although this is a bit of a grey area, since good behaviour is a requirement for staying in council housing in the first place.
* If [[Gaia's Vengeance]] becomes [[Truth in Television]], you can bet that those most at fault will have long since passed on.
* Even over seventy70 years after [[World War II]] ended, current German citizens still have to deal with their nation being mocked (and in some cases, hated) by other countries due to the actions of the Nazis. Hence the seemingly-draconian-yet-understandable laws enacted by German authorities to ban anything about Nazism unless they are mentioned or depicted in a historical or artistic light.
* [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] faced the above Nazism accusations when details of his father, Gustav Schwarzenegger, were revealed. Gustav served the Nazi Party and the SS, but fortunately for Arnie, there was no concrete evidence that the elder Schwarzenegger had been involved in any atrocities, and even if he did Arnold had no control over it either.
* Children and relatives of crime family members would bear the brunt of retribution once their fathers turn pentito, as mentioned in the ''Mafia'' example above, as it is sadly routine for the Cosa Nostra and other Mafia-typelike organisations to kill immediate and extended family members both as a form of mob terrorism and to send a message to those who might try to turn against them. One such example was when Tommaso Buscetta's sons, a son-in-law, his brother, and a nephew were all murdered as a result for Buscetta's betrayal.
* Relatives of sex offenders also get ostracised for the perp's crimes as well, even if they had nothing to do (or wanted nothing to do) with their relatives' atrocities. In a study<ref>[https://www.hrw.org/reports/2007/us0907/1.htm No Easy Answers: Sex Offender Laws in the US: Acknowledgements]</ref> critiquing the effectiveness of sex offender registries, it has been noted that those associated or related to sex offenders get ostracised and [[Convicted by Public Opinion|shamed]] to oblivion. Children of sex offenders have been bullied by their peers at school for their fathers' crimes, and families are faced with eviction or in extreme cases [[Vigilante Man|vigilante action]] such as arson, harassment and stoning aimed to drive affected families out of the vicinity. Sex crimes are indeed abhorrent and are seen with disgust by everyone, but the shame faced by families who have no control over their relatives' sexual deviancy is just as sad as the pervs' victims.