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* [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff|Americans Love Mana Khemia]]: In Japan, the two Mana Khemia games received a fairly lukewarm reception from the established fanbase, and ''Mana Khemia 2'' received a lot of flak from reviewers. In the West, on the other hand... well, just take a gander at which of the dedicated game pages is longest and which one received so much attention as to warrant its own character page (and reportedly sold ''better'' in the West than it did in Japan). ''MK 2'' also got a ''much'' warmer reception from the Western press than it did in Japan, scoring slightly ''higher'' on average than ''MK 1'' did. (This may have something to do with those [[Game Breaking Bug|Game Breaking Bugs]] getting fixed for us, though.)
* [[Broken Base]]: In some ways, the Arland games are causing this. Certain fandom sections, like those found at [[Sankaku Complex]], basically describe the Arland games (and thus the wider franchise) as "[[H-game|eroge without the actual ero bits]]" and are mostly in it for [[Fan Service|the girls]] and, uh, [[A Date with Rosie Palms|what they can do]] [[Squick|with them]]. This makes many older Atelier fans '''bristle with rage''', as the games have ''never'' been intended to be erotic; [[Ms. Fanservice|Marie's odd chest... thing]] aside, the hottest any pre-Iris game got was having Lilie in a nightgown for one scene. <ref>And really, the hottest any ''post''-Iris game got was a chest-and-up [[Barbie Doll Anatomy]] scene of Lita in a tank in ''Iris 1''.</ref> The actual Arland games don't help ''at all'', either; on the one hand, there's the occasional scene with, uh, [[media:atelier_tentacle_ohdear_5207.jpg|what can only be called "overtones"]] (possibly nsfw), but on the other hand many scenes seem dedicated to making ''fun'' of this kind of nonsense in the same way [[Ar
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: Gust Sound Team is only ''slightly'' less well-known than [[Ys|Falcom's JDK Band]] in this regard in Japan. For organizational purposes, their work [[Crowning Music/Nippon Ichi|gets lumped in with NIS stuff]] on TVT, but good lord, this series has had a ''lot'' of good music, especially from the second game on. The Iris games in particular produced some amazing vocal and boss themes, and ''Atelier Violet'' is basically one huge crowner for the entire team.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: In a franchise as big as this one, you'd expect this to happen a few times, and it certainly has.
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** Another was ''Judie'' to ''Violet'': ''Judie'' was a fairly disappointing game that took away some of the elements of previous games in an apparent attempt to broaden franchise appeal (and failed badly); ''Violet'' took the few good things from Judie, wedded them to the systems of the older games, and is generally seen as the best [[Play Station 2]] Atelier game.
** ''Liese'' to ''Annie''. ''Liese'' was [[Game Breaking Bug|infamously buggy]], had a somewhat annoying combat system and didn't really have enough story content, leading to it getting ripped to shreds in Japan. ''Annie'', on the other hand, not only launched bug-free but addressed every single gameplay issue in ''Liese and'' features a lot more story content, to the point where it's even receiving positive press [http://www.rpgamer.com/games/atelier/aa/aa-imp.html in the West].
** Finally, some are claiming that ''Atelier Rorona'' is this to ''most of the franchise''. As a [[
* [[Surprise Difficulty]]: If you look at the art of Atelier Annie, it's a little bit cute compared to the Iris games. There's more than a few bishounen characters in the cast. And the cover has an E10+ rating. But this is also a game where if the player rushes into battle without bringing healing items or changing the heroine's equipment, then a single Puni can kill her.
** Most of the early Ateliers were like this; if you were too lax in recruiting some party members, didn't upgrade equipment or went too far from town too quickly, you could quickly find yourself overwhelmed. This is part of what made ''Atelier Lilie'' [[Nintendo Hard]], since your starting party options consist of your twentysomething alchemist heroine and her ''two ten-year-old hangers-on''. They can easily go out into the woods and get mauled to death by wolves at the start of the game.
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