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*** Now you've got me wondering what story he was going to tell Batman. - Ronfar

**** I've always thought it'd go something like this:

***** Batman, of course, being [[Crazy Prepared|who he is]], would know [[The Princess Bride (film)|exactly where it came from]].

*** Considering Batman's obsession with law and order, he'd probably say that they were inflicted by a sadistic cop or something. Or better yet - a ''vigilante!'' - [[User:Unknown Troper]]

* One moment that appealed to me was during the Batman/Joker discussion in the cell. At one point, the Joker says/quotes the Jerry Maguire line "You... ''complete'' me!" At first it just sounds like a throwaway line for a cheap laugh until you consider the source: in the movie, Jerry Maguire, until the scene that line comes from, almost always gets around with a rictus ''grin'' on his face - [[Does This Remind You of Anything?]]? Also, Jerry Maguire's meant to be seen as an antihero - again, probably how the Joker sees himself. -- Saintheart

* Two pieces of Alfred's dialogue within ''Batman Begins'' and ''The Dark Knight'' are very similar. The first happens just after Bruce's parents die in ''Begins'', and the second after {{spoiler|Rachel}} dies in ''Dark Knight.''

Alfred: "I thought I'd prepare a little breakfast... Very well, then." }}

** This troper recognized that when Alfred gave the line in the second film, which only made the dialogue that followed so much more brilliant and wrenching. In the first movie, Bruce Wayne is just a little boy, who was in no way responsible for his parents' death -- and as with the second movie, he asks Alfred, in effect, whether he was responsible for the deaths that have just occurred. Alfred's response is clear in the first movie: it was not Bruce's fault. But in the second movie, rather than ''comfort'' Bruce Wayne, he addresses him as an adult: "You spat in the faces of Gotham's criminals. Did you not think there would be some casualties?" It's both an acknowledgment by Alfred that Bruce is an adult fully capable of making his own decisions, and also a restatement of the sorrow, if not slight disapproval, that Alfred has for Batman. Bruce had the excuse of being a child and being innocent when Alfred first comforts him this way; in the second movie, he's neither a child nor an innocent, so Alfred serves it to him straight. Even so, that scene from the first movie is one of my [[Tear Jerker]] favorites; I still cry like a baby when that one comes up, and to have that scene restated and then raked over was like pulling a scab off a healed wound. Brilliant. --Saintheart