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* [[World War Hulk]]: Warbound vs Illuminati. The Illuminati weren't guilty of the crime that Hulk was avenging, but they ''were'' the reason he was on Sakaar in the first place.
* ''[[Scalped]]''. Dash is an [[Anti-Hero]] at best, and Red Crow has many shades of being an [[Anti-Villain]]. He definitely faces enough [[Complete Monster|complete monsters]] that it's hard to pin him as the worst thing that could happen to the Rez.
* ''[[Superman: Red Son]]'': [[Superman]] is a totalitarian dictator, [[Thou Shalt Not Kill|but values human life enough to never kill anybody]] and - to himself, at least - has humanity's best interests at heart, while [[Lex Luthor]] is totally obsessed with bringing Superman down rather than liberating humanity from Superman's yoke.
* ''[[Alien vs. Predator]]'', in both comics and video games, as the [[Alien]] is not much sentient, the [[Predator]] borders on [[Blue and Orange Morality]], and the humans are most times just doing their jobs. Whoever it's the villain depends on the viewpoint character.
== Fanfics ==
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* It should come as no surprise, but the crossover fanfic ''[[Renegade (fanfic)|Renegade]]'' by the same author does the same thing, with the same factions. In fact, both factions are presented as protagonists, with the Brotherhood of Nod intervening in the slaver raid on Elysium and with {{spoiler|Kane himself}} attempting to negotiate a compromise between GDI and the Citadel. Of course, {{spoiler|Nod apparently stole the Tacitus on Eden Prime}}, which ''caused'' said conflict between GDI and the Citadel and allowed {{spoiler|Kane}} to score points by negotiating said compromise, so it might have [[The Plan|been part of the plan....]]
* Fittingly, considering the canon series' [[Grey and Gray Morality]] and [[Black and Gray Morality]] tendencies, the [[Mass Effect]] fanfic The Council Era is entirely these two. The [[Villain Protagonist]] seeks to create a Utopia for the galaxy, and does improve it over time, but he believes that [[Utopia Justifies the Means]] and commits seriously heinous acts in order to marginally improve the galaxy. His [[Worthy Opponent]] in this [[Evil Versus Evil]] plotline merely seeks to create a firm foothold for his newly spacefaring people, the krogans. By exterminating every other species, and turning the krogan into a [[Master Race]].
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* In ''[[Samurai Warriors]]'', especially the second title, the focus is about the battle of Sekigahara. Those who side with Ishida Mitsunari will probably see him as a [[Jerkass]] who snarks a lot and is being redeemed with the values of friendship and honor; and see Tokugawa Ieyasu as a [[Fat Bastard]] who is stealing the throne of Japan while it rightfully belongs to Toyotomi Hideyori. However, those who sides with the Tokugawa know that Ieyasu is instead a 'Fat Gentleman', and he puts a lot of care to his fellow officers and people, condemning the West (especially Mitsunari's ally Kanetsugu) of using pretty words like 'honor and justice' to do underhanded things and robbing the freedom of the people. In fact, ''[[Samurai Warriors]]'' is much grayer than ''[[Dynasty Warriors]]'', the closest we can get of [[Obviously Evil]] is Fuuma Kotarou, and even he's ''still'' grayer than Dong Zhuo.
* ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater]]'' uses this as its main theme. Naked Snake is fighting in Soviet territory and nobody is really on the side they seem to be on. Betrayals, double-crossing etc. are rife. The Boss explains to Snake that there is no such thing as an absolute enemy. Wars simply happen because of circumstance as leaders and situations change: soldiers are just pawns to this. {{spoiler|Then of course Naked Snake becomes Big Boss and forms the La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo and eventually Outer Heaven. His support team, who seem kindly allies end up crooked, with the loquacious Dr. Clark performing sick experiments on Gray Fox and the tea-drinking Brit Major Zero becoming the mastermind of the La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo.}}
** [[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots|MGS4]] further drives the point home when one realizes that the [[Amazon Brigade|Beauty & Beast Corps]] are war-scarred women outfitted with advanced nanotechnology and [[Big Bad|Liquid Ocelot]] is {{spoiler|1=[[Good All Along]] (relatively), is actually ''the'' Ocelot from MGS3 pretending to have assimilated Liquid Snake's personality, and is stopping the Patriots' plans.}} On the good guys' side, Roy Campbell's marriage to Raiden's wife Rosemary {{spoiler|was a facade meant to protect her and their supposedly-miscarried son Little John from the Patriots while Raiden is out fighting}}, and Rat Patrol 01 {{spoiler|1=is the Patriots' [[Unwitting Pawn|Unwitting Pawns]] -- their acronym ("RAT PT 01") can even be rearranged to spell "PATR10T" -- who are meant to eliminate Ocelot before he foils their plans -- [[Spanner in the Works|they simply never expected Old Snake to destroy more than just Ocelot]].}} It also turns out that the black-morality Solid Snake-era Patriots are {{spoiler|nothing more but [[AI Is a Crapshoot|a faulty AI system]] developed by Zero long after he lost faith in humanity following Big Boss's departure, which deviated from the vision of Big Boss, Zero, SIGINT, Para-Medic, EVA and Ocelot -- the original Patriots -- and built an economy [[War for Fun and Profit|based on warfare]], with Zero blissfully unaware (not to mention conveniently catatonic) of what he had wrought}}.
* Ditto for the ''[[Legacy of Kain]]'' series. By the time Defiance rolls around, you're never really sure who's supposed to be the good guy and who the bad guy.
** The Hylden have a single redeeming feature? Or are we just talking about freakish abominations not imprisoned in another universe?
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