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The problem with Scorpio's arrest is that while the confession would be invalid, the search /is/ valid -- you don't need a search warrant for the groundskeeper's shack because Scorpio is not a legal tenant, he's squatting.
(That's the original film. In the remake, they were indeed hostile from the getgo.)
(The problem with Scorpio's arrest is that while the confession would be invalid, the search /is/ valid -- you don't need a search warrant for the groundskeeper's shack because Scorpio is not a legal tenant, he's squatting.)
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** When Ejiofor wants to open up the Ark to save one more family, Platt chews him out for [[The Needs of the Many|wanting to risk everyone's lives just for a slim chance of saving five or six more people]].
* ''[[Plan 9 from Outer Space]]''. Eros. Would ''you'' allow an alien species to get their hands on a device that could blow up not only the world but the ''universe''? Compare and contrast with Robert E Wise's ''[[The Day the Earth Stood Still]]''.
* A frequent problem in [[Cowboy Cop]] type movies, particularly ''[[Dirty Harry]]'', where the wishy-washy liberal superiors chastise Harry for his flagrant abuse of the rights of the suspect and ignorance of police procedure. But the thing is, they're right, and Harry would be a terrifyingly dangerous person in real life. This whole issue was deliberately acknowledged in the earlier film, ''[[Bullitt]]'', where the superior turns out to be completely right: it's not good to be a loose cannon. ''[[Dirty Harry]]'' itself acknowledged this with the second movie, with the primary antagonists being a group of Cowboy Cops. It is instructive to note that despite all the other rules he breaks, Harry has never actually killed anyone outside standard law enforcement rules of engagement.
** Even in the ''first'' movie, [[Unbuilt Trope|Harry isn't portrayed as completely in the right]]. Everyone seems to forget (probably because the sequels [[Retcon|retconned]] it) that at the end of the movie, he ''quits the force'' because things just don't work. Not to mention that the killer goes free because of Harry's misconduct: it's certainly not the case that Harry's methods get things done in spite of being unconventional and illegal.
* In the remake of ''[[The Day the Earth Stood Still]]'', various characters from the government and military are depicted as being callous, paranoid, and inhumane when they immediately imprison the injured alien visitor and attempt to interrogate him about what he's doing on Earth. Even though the viewers are supposed to be disgusted with their behavior, there's one minor problem; Klaatu is indeed planning to destroy the entire human race, taking all of a day and a couple interviews to verify it as the right course. [[Properly Paranoid|The "inhumane" government officials were completely correct to treat him as an enemy.]]
* In ''[[28 Weeks Later]]'', the American military eventually order the total execution of all non-military personnel in London, infected or not, rather than risk letting the newly-resurgent virus spread. American soldiers gun down hordes of frightened civilians who are obviously not yet infected, which is pretty horrifying. However, we also know that the virus completely wiped out Britain in a matter of weeks, so this extreme position does not seem so unreasonable. By the end, {{spoiler|we learn that the heroes' successful escape from the mass execution has, in fact, allowed the virus to spread to the rest of the world and possibly doomed the human race. It's likely that the film always intended the heroes' position to seem somewhat dubious, albeit with good intentions}}.
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