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* ''[[The Artist]]'' suddenly got this. Despite winning over 13 Best Picture awards from various critics groups, the Golden Globes, the BAFTA, and the Oscars, plus of course a 97% [[Rotten Tomatoes]] score, the film is now considered as overrated and not the best film of the year by some people.
* [[Kevin Smith]]. Some fans have accused him of being a sell out, a label he has no problem with. Most recently, people accuse Smith of being a sellout because he directed ''[[Cop Out]]'' for a studio from a script he didn't write. This, despite the fact that he [[Doing It for the Art|took a significant pay ''cut'' to ensure the film could have the R-rating he thought it deserved.]]
* ''[[The Matrix]]'' [[Limited Special Collectors' Ultimate Edition|collector's edition]] contains a meta-example. The [[Alternate DVD Commentary|alternate commentaries]] in it are explained as existing because every other DVD commentary is always [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin|the cast and crew commenting on the development of the film]], and a film like theirs deserves commentaries by college philosophers and movie critics instead.
* ''[[The Nightmare Before Christmas]]''. Some fans feel this way because of it becoming a [[Cash Cow Franchise]]. It doesn't help many buy Nightmare merch just to look Goth or Emo, not because they actually ''seen'' the movie. Then add the [[Hate Dumb]] that thinks the movie sucks because they've seen the merch but [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|not actually seeing the movie]], and you get some pissed-off fans. Luckily, this is a [[Vocal Minority]].
* [[Peter Jackson]]. Full swing after making the movie adaptations of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. You'd be amazed at how many of his "[[Fan Dumb|fans]]" despise the fact he made a film that cost more than a million or so and look down on fans that were brought into the fold via ''[[The Lord of the Rings (film)|The Lord of the Rings]]''. Claims that he "sold out", "lost his touch", and "became a hack" are common in certain circles of his older fanbase.
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* There seems to be a substantial backlash of this sort to anything by the legendary comic ''[[Monty Python]]'', (especially, however, ''[[Monty Python and the Holy Grail]]''). Some people might just be [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny|sick of the inevitable quotations]], since so many people know the quotes and love them. Others have different objections.
* For many people, the decline of ''[[The X-Files]]'' began with its move to Sundays from Fridays and its attempt to be more "accessible" to Fox viewers.
* In the ''[[Community]]'' episode "[[Community/Recap/S2
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* [[ABBA]] This complaint arises in their fan community every time there is a major surge in interest, the latest being the success of ''[[Mamma Mia!]]''. Interestingly, each wave of popularity leads to a status increase for past newcomers, to the point where "Goldies" (newcomers after the release of the "ABBA Gold" album), who were ridiculed on their arrival, are now praised as "true fans" by the older fans who criticized them. Many of these older fans ignore the fact that they first liked the band in the 1970's, at the all-time peak of their success and popularity.
** This is common in multiple music fandoms, and leads to a sort of cycle: a band becomes "popular", at which point liking them becomes lame and so they become unpopular, at which point no-one likes them so liking them becomes "cool" again. Thanks to the internet, this can often happen over the course of a single month, even with no change whatsoever from the band themselves. Factor in that this happens on several levels (with individual artists, genres, and even with awareness of this very trope), and that bands often drastically change their sounds and attitudes (usually partially due to fan reaction and, again, awareness of this trope), and you get a consensus attitude that is very confusing and difficult to get a read on.
* [[ACDC]] has managed to avoid this for the most part, but there is still a portion of the fandom that believes the band was better before Brian Johnson replaced the deceased Bon Scott on vocals, simply because of the massive success of "Back in Black" (still the second best selling album of all time to this day) which was the first album to feature Johnson.
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* [[Nicki Minaj]] has two forms of this: the set of people who believe she really became more pop-oriented in her debut album, ''Pink Friday'',(before that she had mixtapes) and people who thinks she was much better when she was completely in the underground.
** Two songs on ''Pink Friday'' address that question, with different points of view expressed on each one. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cVgB7RSwto "Dear Old Nicki"] has become an anthem of sorts for the latter set mentioned above (and "Dear old Nicki, please call back" their motto).
** On the other hand, [[Limited Special Collectors' Ultimate Edition|bonus track]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL65tMM1_y0 "Muny"] has become the same for the other side of the debate, with said motto being "Bitches want my old shit, buy my old mixtape."
* [[Nirvana]]. It's widely believed that frontman [[Kurt Cobain]] killed himself as a result of his fear of this trope and even [[Creator Backlash|came to hate]] the band's signature song, "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (which was [[Poe's Law|supposed to be a parody]] of the [[Misaimed Fandom|same fans it started attracting]]) often refusing to play it live. Additionally, the band's popularity is often used to claim that they're overrated, and even some grunge fans don't like them solely because of it.
** Kurt Cobain often wrote pop songs to subvert this. Even ''Bleach'', their most abrasive and inaccessible release has "About A Girl" on it, which he wrote after listening to [[The Beatles (band)|The Beatles]] all day. They followed up ''Nevermind'' with ''In Utero'', which is much sludgier than ''Nevermind'' but ultimately reaches a compromise: songs which were just about heavy enough for ''Bleach''/''Incesticide'' fans, but melodic enough for ''Nevermind'' fans. Of course, "In Bloom", from ''Nevermind'' points fun at the people who listened to Nirvana because they were popular and didn't understand the lyrics.
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** ''[[Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne|Nocturne]]'' is beginning to suffer from this, since it's the [[Sequel First|first main]] ''[[Shin Megami Tensei]]'' [[Sequel First|game to be released outside of Japan]] and hence more people have played this one than the original two. There is also a mix of [[Hype Backlash]], as many ''Shin Megami Tensei'' fans have proclaimed this one of the best games ever while deriding the popularity of other games. The trolling can be a headache.
* ''[[Space Channel 5]]'' has been getting this treatment ever since the announcement of the HD port of Part 2. Most of the internet has cried about Part 1 not coming out, even though [[Fan Dumb|Part 1 couldn't be released due to pre-rendered backgrounds and STILL look nice.]]
* The ''[[System Shock]]'' series was beloved but never commercially successful. In 2007, ''[[
** ''SS2'''s other Spiritual Successor, ''[[Deus Ex]]'', was lauded with universal acclaim. ''Its'' sequel had what was widely viewed as excessive consolization. Combined with the game's lessened scope, it created such a tidal wave of pure bile and hatred toward Warren Spector that he hasn't been seen since the next year's (much better received) ''Thief 3''.
* ''[[Tales of Symphonia]]'' is starting to get this treatment. Word of mouth (plus high exposure due to being a ''huge'' RPG on the RPG-starved Gamecube) led to it being a big seller and award-winner, and for the first time a lot of gamers outside of Japan started looking into the series. Fast-forward six or seven years and now the ''[[Tales (series)]]'' has a ''lot'' of embittered older fans who are mad that the newer games in the series are bigger sellers and more popular than the pre-Symphonia cult classics that were the [[Tales of Destiny|early]] [[Tales of Eternia|games]]. And it's all blamed on ''Symphonia'''s breakout popularity.<!-- Destiny and Eternia were the only ones in English prior to Symphonia, thus they're the only ones linked to due to this being an English-language site -->
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