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{{quote|'''Shepard''': [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|We'll fight and win without it.]] [[Shut UP, Hannibal|I won't let fear compromise who I am.]]}}
** Strangely, nobody seems to even consider the possibility that using this technology could be, not just an unethical, but an outright ''bad'' idea. The Reapers had already proven beyond any doubt that they can manipulate the minds of those in contact with them {{spoiler|even the Reaper "corpse" that had been dead for 37 million years turned the well-trained and cautious Cerberus research team into lunatics and then husks.}} And also, using {{spoiler|the one piece of Collector technology they got from the ship nearly got everyone killed despite their best precautions.}} Based on this, you'd think there were some very solid, totally ''un''idealistic arguments against the Illusive Man, but nobody seems to think of them.
*** And, Mass Effect 3 reveals that their work in attempting to reverse-engineer Reaper components did indeed only lead to Cerberus becoming indoctrinated and serving as a pawn of the Reapers. Paragon Shepard was right.
** Even though the [[Mad Scientist]] responsible for the disaster in the "Overlord" DLC tries to make a point, his treatment of {{spoiler|his autistic brother is so monstrous that the ''Paragon'' option is to smash him in the face, and very few players will have anything but hatred for the bastard.}} However, his statement that if his work spares "a million mothers from mourning a million sons" he'll be content is never actually addressed. While this is by no means a solid argument, his point is rejected out of hand rather than argued against, leaving open the possibility that he might be proven right. {{spoiler|The game actually spares us from this moral conundrum by having Legion show us that the Geth are not actually hostile, and that if you want to understand them, you only need to ask. Consequently, the experiments and torture were all for nothing, but there is no way Dr Archer could have known that.}}
* ''[[Bully (video game)|Bully]]'' features a feud between the Math and English teachers. Mr. Hattrick, the Math teacher, is a tyrannical monster who uses his wealth and connections to bully both the students and the other teachers with impunity, whereas Mr. Galloway, the English teacher, is kind and mild mannered, and has been bullied by Hattrick for so long that he's turned to alcoholism. The problem here is that Galloway actually shows up to class hung over and even drinks during school hours. Hattrick catches him at it and tries to get him fired. The game itself presents it as [[Black and White Morality|Hattrick Wrong Galloway Right]] because it fits in with its themes (In particular, that people in positions of authority are oblivious to what is and isn't actually [[Harmful to Minors]]; the students are aware that Galloway drinks, but it doesn't offend them or encourage them to drink themselves, while Hattrick is a classist bully who maintains a clear-cut appearance to keep anyone from suspecting him). But, regardless of the reason he's drinking, firing a teacher who shows up to teach drunk makes more sense than just brushing it off as "a chap can have a drink when he bloody well wants". In [[Real Life]], any teacher who did that would be in serious trouble.
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* Used deliberately in ''[[Pokémon Black and White]]'', since the plot is a [[Decon Recon Switch]] of the "cute monster pitfighting" premise. The enemy Team is a [[Animal Wrongs Group|Pokemon rights group]] trying to have said pitfighting activity banned as abuse. By, you know, [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|mugging Trainers]]. Some members are portrayed as ''extremely'' sympathetic, along with their {{spoiler|figurehead}} leader, who is recognized as a hero by the [[Powers That Be]] for his efforts in Pokemon liberation. The others [[Kick the Dog|kick wild Munna]].
** Team Plasma's perspective on things is even more understandable if you play by a [[Self-Imposed Challenge]] whose rules dictate your Pokemon are ''[[Killed Off for Real]]'' if they get KO'd, such as the Nuzlocke Challenge.
 
 
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