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* The very first thing the show did on returning - having Peter list off every canceled Fox show since ''Family Guy'' went off the air. The sheer arrogance of the moment is staggering. It's Seth waving his dick around and yelling, "Suck it, FOX! I'm the only chance you have!" And it's also illogical - what, they all got canceled because they're not Family Guy? The scene might have worked if they listed every show that was in Family Guy's time slot, but listing every canceled Fox show takes it to the point of masturbation.
* In ''Don't Make Me Over'', [[Throw the Dog a Bone|the writers]] [[Yank the Dog's Chain|finally]] [[Hope Spot|seemed to give]] [[Chew Toy|Meg]] the love she deserved. So much for that. They could have give her a little more respect since that episode, but no, She had to go back to [[The Unfavorite|her]][[The Woobie|se]][[Broken Bird|lf]] by the end. Because [[Status Quo Is God]]. And before you say "but that episode had [[An Aesop]] with [[Be Yourself]]!" remember that it becomes a [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop]] if this is just a lame excuse to [[Butt Monkey|put the character through shit]].
* "Patriot Games" -- the—the home of the infamous "Where's my money?" and "Shipoopi" scenes. The former scene was just unnecessary violence and is uncomfortable to watch. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the latter scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to play "Shipoopi" again.
** Don't have a problem with something being uncomfortable to watch, but musical numbers are usually the DEW line for a show having [[Jump the Shark|jumped the shark]]. Mostly averted in ''Family Guy'''s case, as they're there due to MacFarlane's fanhood, but "Shipoopi" was some of the most [[Overly Long Gag|overlong, unfunny, obnoxious filler]] I've seen, and it was compounded by [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|giving the London Sillynannies a musical number of their own]]. Its only funny moment was showing John Madden dancing along in the broadcast booth. IIRC, that episode was tied in with FOX's Super Bowl broadcast that particular season. Talk about putting your worst foot forward.
** In the episode with the infamous Shipoopi scene (while being pretty horrendous, is not the DMOS), Lois tells Peter that, if he got handicapped, she would just drop him. [[Sarcasm Mode|Y'know, because that's what love is all about!]]
* "You May Now Kiss the... Uh... Guy Who Receives". This episode was basically the start of the whole "Brian is the [[Author Avatar]] thing." Basically, Brian's cousin comes to visit and brings a Filipino boyfriend. They say that they are getting married and Lois is the only one not impressed by it. Mayor West then bans Gay Marriage in order to get around him building a solid gold statue of the Kellogg's cereal mascot Dig 'Em. Brian, in a complete wreckage of anything canon before it, automatically goes to try to help his cousin, trying to get signatures to repeal it. He gets the signatures and West disregards the signatures. In yet another wreckage of character, Brian holds West at gunpoint and takes him hostage. It is only then that Lois decides to go along with it and accept gay marriage. Brian immediately, after hearing Lois tell him to stop, ends up stopping... to which West tears up the gay marriage ban. So, a person (well, dog) holds you up at gunpoint unless you sign some idiotic paper repealing a gay marriage ban, so you... help him? Instead of arresting him? The episode ends on the gay marriage itself. The subplot wasn't much better at bashing Republicans, as Chris joins a Young Republicans group and burns Brian's original petition, and then [[What Happened to the Mouse?|it's never resolved.]]
** Oh, you're missing half of the problems! For one, how is the mayor "banning" gay marriage? At the time this episode aired, gay marriage wasn't legal in Rhode Island yet--anyet—an inaccuracy that exists just to subtly make his side more "villainous." Secondly, Jasper and his boyfriends are the biggest stereotypes ever, and the most "romantic" thing about their relationship is Jasper making a sex joke. They don't even talk to each other (because the Fillipino can't speak English and Jasper makes no sign of speaking Spanish)--their relationship is as shallow as a puddle, so cares whether or not they can get a tax break for their zoophilia? And third, Lois is convinced to support gay marriage because Brian holds somebody at gunpoint. ...[[Big "What?"|WHAT?!]] What sense does that make?! Her [[Insane Troll Logic|logic]] is that "he feels really strongly about this" so he must be right--thatright—that's idiotic! Brian is committing an act of terrorism right now! If gay marriage is right, it's right; if it's wrong, it's wrong. The fact that somebody (particularly somebody who's not even gay) "feels really strongly" about it does not prove their side is right! (Put another way--ifway—if the mayor was trying to legalize gay marriage and Brian put a gun to his head to stop it, would he be right then?) And then there was a "joke" about Elizabeth Smart, the [[Ripped from the Headlines|real-life]] girl who was kidnapped by a crazy cultist for more than a year. The punchline is that she's horribly traumatized from repeatedly being raped. [[Dude, Not Funny|...Fuck you in hell, writers]]. Seriously. (N.B.: the real Elizabeth Smart seems to have, thankfully, recovered from her ordeal quite well.)
*** And no-one's mentioned the (thankfully) deleted scene that shows that Jasper's 'boyfriend' [[Unfortunate Implications|'''has no idea that he's getting married''']]?
** While I agree with the above posts, there is one part in that episode that left a bad taste in my mouth and that is the scene where Stewie, Brian, and Jasper were watching the film ''[[The Sound of Music]]''. In this movie parodied, after the nuns sabotaged the Nazis' pursuit of the Von Trapp family, one of the nuns confessed to the Reverend Mother Superior that she committed a sin and revealed that she decapitated Rolfe, much to the other nuns' horror. That said nun then shouted, "Hey, I didn't start this war, but it's on!" Yes, ''Family Guy'' writers, we get it! Rolfe was turned into a Nazi, [[Sarcasm Mode|and anybody who were Nazis shall burn in hell!]] But what the FG writers did to Rolfe was just uncalled for and pointlessly dark. I'm pretty sure Liesl's not going to be happy that her lover, who suffered a [[Face Heel Turn]], had been killed off by one of the nuns. And I'm pretty sure the older ''Sound of Music'' movie fans who viewed this dreadful parody weren't happy with the FG writers interpreting how Rolfe's fate probably ended after he was brainwashed by [[Adolf Hitler|the notorious dictator]].
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** That episode lost me for a while (I was briefly won back until "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven") but another reason I hate it was for wasting Gilbert Gottfried in a nothing cameo. Still not as bad a waste as the TNG cast, and as it's Gilbert YMMV.
** I hated this episode simply because I am tired of the stereotype that those from my state are ignorant, racist, sexist, dogmatic assholes who would attempt en masse to lynch people because they are gay or atheist. I recognize parody when I see it, but as the first troper noted, when you mix preachiness with over-the-top parody and include extremely mean-spirited stereotyping, the result is you sounding like an asshole.
** The big problem I had with this episode was the entire setup to get them to Texas just so the show could make all the "Texans are backwards-ass jerkwad rednecks" jokes. Stewie throws up in church after ingesting too many crackers and too much wine -- whichwine—which is a completely understandable reaction -- andreaction—and just because the crackers and wine are part of Communion, he's immediately assumed to be possessed and sought after by the entire town of Quahog, as well as the authorities, for an exorcism. First: it makes religious people look like complete [[Jerkass|Jerkasses]]es for wanting to deliver an exorcism to a child who threw up in church (I know, big shock, ''Family Guy'' hating on religion). Second: actual church-sanctioned exorcisms are few and far between, and even then, they're done by highly-trained members of the clergy (and only after the church has deemed an exorcism to be truly necessary), not some random priest and a bunch of pissed-off civilians. Third: the whole "the police are looking for a possessed child" bit makes no sense because, last I checked, the police aren't called on to arrest people just because they're accused of being possessed by the devil. Fourth: Even if the Griffins had to run from the entire population of Quahog, that's no reason to make everyone else on the Griffins' trip to Texas (including non-Quahog police officers) as dumb as the rest of Quahog. If the rest of the episode had been worth the intelligence-insulting setup, then maybe I could forgive the attack on religion and the general absurdity of the setup; too bad that, as the others have pointed out above me, the episode was nowhere near worth the setup.
** I believe this was the episode in which Stewie competed (in drag) in a beauty pagaent. Stewie makes a snarky joke about ending up like Jonbenet Ramsey. For those not privy, Jonbenet was a 6 year old beauty pageant contestant who was brutally murdered in her home on Christmas Day nearly sixteen years ago, whose murder still remains unsolved. That was utterly tasteless and disrespect to the victim and her family. What the hell are they thinking? I know it has been a while seen it happened that is no excuse. And it losing sane viewers because the writers making light of seriously tragic events worth making a few possible weirdos laugh at poorly thought out jokes.
** This was the episode that made me lose all hope in the series. Up to this point, I was able to tolerate the [[Dead Baby Comedy]] and the [[Dude, Not Funny]] nature of the post-cancellation seasons. Hell even this episode I liked... up until Stewie vomits the communion wine. And that's when when it all came crumbling down as religious propaganda and racism that makes even ''[[American Dad]]'' seem tame. Texans are not all stupid, self-minded people. And really? Why the fuck did they have to include two [[Chuck Norris]] jokes that weren't even remotely entertaining ([[Would Hurt a Child|punching another child? Really?]]) Having Dubya in the episode was promising as they did make him into a nice guy, but severely wasted largely in part of the [[Author Tract]] going on. This episode is the reason why I only watch the first three seasons on an occasional basis (If I bother watching the series).
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== Season 6 ==
* The moments in "Blue Harvest" where they just ripped gags off wholesale from ''Airplane''. They don't make sense if you haven't seen Airplane, and if you have, it's nothing more than "Yep, that sure is a reference to Airplane". That's [[Seltzer and Friedberg]]-style humor right there. I hated the episode as a whole, but that just cemented it as the worst episode I've seen.
* The cutaway where Quagmire rapes [[The Simpsons (animation)|Marge Simpson]] and murders her family. Many ''[[Family Guy]]'' fans (including myself) are also fans of [[The Simpsons]], so naturally we do not find this the least bit amusing.
** Agreed. Even Matt Groening (a friend of Seth and a fan of the show) was so disgusted by this it almost ended the friendship between the two of them.
** The worst part is that it honestly could have been a pretty funny visual gag if the writers had the sense to end it before Quagmire murders the entire Simpson family.
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* "Horton Hears Domestic Abuse In The Next Apartment, But Doesn't Call The Police". That's the [[Manatee Gag]] that cost the show what little respect it had from me. It was probably the most uncalled for, idiotic joke in the history of the show, because not only is it in really poor taste because it has a basis in reality, but the woman's screaming and there was a baby watching. No. Just... no.
* The "Nazis would support McCain and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap people like Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.
* If you want a dose of [[Jerk Sue|Jerk Sueness]]ness and [[Character Derailment]], look no further then "Baby Not On Board". Main plot: Stewie is left at home. In the early seasons, this would have led to world domination. But, now, he can't do the basics without having to get a job, and fails at a job badly. No evil schemes (except maybe kidnapping Quagmire and Joe) that once made this character appealing. Now, for the subplot, which I really hate. Peter wins gas money, so he takes the family out on a trip. He manages to not know what 9/11 is, jump out of a car to watch a movie, and gamble away all of their money. Lois rightfully [["The Reason You Suck" Speech|tells him off]] by saying that his mind is completely fucked up, and what does Peter do? He quotes, verbatim, the famous rebuttal from [[Planes, Trains and Automobiles]] (ruining that scene forever AND proving that Peter's an egotistical douchebag).... and Lois instantly feels remorse. Use that one scene to refer to a Mary Sue: you can act as huge a jerk as you want, but if you rip off a famous scene from a John Hughes movie (which did not even fit the context of Lois's rant), you fix everything! It also proves [[They Just Didn't Care|the laziness of the FG crew, as they can't even write their own material]]. Add to that the overabundance of Cutaway gags (which ranged from "fell flat" to "downright offensive") and more Meg bashing then usual, and you have possibly the worst episode of the series.
* "Family Gay". How the "being gay is not a choice, and we should accept them the way they are" intended aesop was warped into "gays are amoral assholes that find partners easily replaceable and care for nothing but sex, and we should accept them the way they are". Because that's exactly what Peter says with his actions after becoming gay: he ditches his wife and family for a random guy named Scott, leaving them ravaged. Let's not forget that, apparently, being gay makes you want to bang ten guys at once. This shows how bad it is to preach in a comedy show, you simply can't be serious and funny at the same time. Oh, and the frosting of the cake was Lois saying, "I can't change your orientation, and I'd be wrong for me to try", when Peter's orientation was changed by the doctors through artificial means.
** Also, the "not a choice" bit gets combined with Peter having willingly chosen (with full knowledge it is what would happen) to have drugs that make him gay used on him.
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== Season 9 ==
* for me it's "Brian writes a Bestseller"; for one, the week before it aired, it was billed as an episode full of Bill Maher (witch if you have ever seen how funny Seth can be with Bill Maher, you'd be pissed too), but insted the guest star got less then 30 seconds. Bonus: We're supposed to be enraged at Brian because he wrote a pro-religion book that he doesn't believe in, even though he has behaved far worse than that on a regular basis.
* The Halloween episode became proof that [[Character Derailment|the writers have completely forgotten about the characters]]. If [[Enfant Terrible|Stewie from season 1]] got his bag of candy stolen, he would have probably just whipped out his ray gun and incinerated those kids. This Stewie, a.k.a [[Camp Gay|Gay Stewie]], acts completely helpless and goes to Brian for help -- andhelp—and actually considers killing those boys to be too much. The same character who once kidnapped and tortured a seven year old for stealing his bike acts like that over this? [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Come the fuck on!]]
** Mo: At first, I was pretty neutral with the Halloween episode due to liking a few parts of the plot of Quagmire being pranked, but that is pretty much ruined by how Meg's subplot ended. To elaborate, She was playing "spin the bottle" at a party and she got into the closet with a guy in an Optimus Prime suit. Normally, I would expect either the guy being ugly or running out screaming, but nope! It was Chris, in the closet with her! That resulted into the most painful scene I had to sit through because it was a blatantly disgusting joke even by the show's own standards.
* The "Guy in a coma" gag from ''Brian Writes a Bestseller''. It wasn't funny, it was overly long, and it was just uncomfortable to watch. I don't even know what the hell they thought they were going for, but neither the premise nor the material was funny and two wrongs do not make a joke. I mean seriously.
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** I agree as well, especially the ending of it. Why is it that anytime Brian tries to "help" Meg, her life seems to get worse because of it. Plus it ruined the one chance that Meg had to finally get some respect from her family and actually have her life improve beyond the sad, lonely existence of the resident punching bag but no, we can't have her too happy or else we lose a large percentage of our jokes. Of course the family going back to hating Meg and blaming her for their problems just by existing was of course just there to add insult to injury.
** Agreed. So, the family needs to abuse Meg to stay together? Then it shouldn't stay together! It's basically saying that a bunch of horrible, selfish bastards need to abuse a nice person, because otherwise, they abuse each other. So what? Screw them!
** It's difficult to choose just one DMOS in this show, since it's been mostly meanspiritedness and political/bigoted diatribes since the revival, but every so often it draws me back in--onlyin—only to push me away again, which is why I chose "Seahorse Seashell Party." Family Guy is at its best when it deconstructs itself, which Meg does gloriously when she calls out her abusive family. Yes, in a sane world, these people would be branded lunatics, and Meg articulately enunciates every one of those arguements against the Griffins (along with a great performance by [[Mila Kunis]] while doing so). This episode could have been a neat way to write Meg out of the show (the writers have repeatedly stated that Meg became the designated [[Butt Monkey]] because they don't know how to write a teenage girl), but instead it shifted back to [[Status Quo Is God]]<ref>in one of the worst uses of that trope ever</ref> as a way to try and justify nonstop character abuse. It was bad writing, frankly. ([[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|Also, I'll add a nitpick]] by saying that the "fingerbang" joke was already done on [[South Park]], and it was better there.)
** Wait, wasn't it Meg who came up with the idea, and not Brian? Anyways, the [[Silent Scapegoat]] approach reminded me of the Zero Requiem ending of ''[[Code Geass]]'', in that it was utterly preposterous. Not for the reasons aforementioned. No. Lois was actually [[My God, What Have I Done?|brought down to tears in a moment of realization]], leading her too subsequently [[What the Hell, Hero?|call Peter out on his abuse of Meg]] in response to being berated by him for crying. It was Peter's subsequent [[Jerkass]] [[Man Child]] tendencies alone that made things spiral downward, yet that wasn't addressed for a single moment. Yep, once again Peter is a [[Jerkass]] [[Karma Houdini]].
** This was initially my favorite episode, right up until the [[Downer Ending|end]]. It's also my only complaint, seeing how I forgive the show because I too have the same kind of humor it does. As for Brian, he was actually proud of Meg. Seeing how he's probably the second [[Butt Monkey]] in the family, it fit that he understood where she was coming from. I wanted her to basically just leave and find her own way without her family. Instead, they took a sea-change moment and nullified her epic [[Reason You Suck Speech]].
** Seriously, fuck this episode. I stopped watching Family Guy a long time ago (It was the no war before religion/no religion before Christianity one that got me originally), and was in the same room as my sister -- whosister—who still watches it -- whenit—when this episode was on. For once, I thought it would actually have an engaging plot and legitimate character development, but then it got Chuck Testa'd. I wasn't pleased. I have henceforth banned the viewing of Family Guy in my house.
** This troper didn't think the epsiode was too bad but still he just wishes that the writers didn't choose ''this'' episode for Meg to stand up for herself. I don't hate Meg and I believe the family needed a wake up call but still in the same epsidoe Brian was on drugs and he was off his rocker. They could had stuck with that but they used this episode to deliver the speeches. I'll agree with Meg on this, every member of this family even Brian needs to grow up and stop acting like morons.
** I know that everybody else made the same argument, but screw it, I'll say it anyway. What the writers believed that the message was was that Meg is a hero for letting her family abuse her so that they do not take it out on each other. What the message really says is that someone might as well stay in the abusive relationship because if they aren't taking their anger out on you, then they are taking it out on someone else. That's bull**** and no one should have to put up with that crap. Every person in that family should be convicted of emotional and physical abuse and have their family dissolve. Even Brian who sees it and does nothing should suffer some sort of karma backlash.
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**For me it was the portrayal of the Amish as this backward patriarchal society that disapproved of these new-fangled outsiders, and even seemed to be on the verge of burning the family as witches. Anyone who knows anything about Amish communities knows that they're violence-averse people, who choose to live without modern conveniences, and even encourage their young people to go out into the larger world to see how other people live. Maybe the writers were counting on the fact that they don't have televisions, and won't watch the show?
*''The Blind Side'' starts of stro-er, godawful with an [[All Anime Is Naughty Tentacles]] joke. I was pissed off by the implication that everyone Japanese watches tentacle rape hentai and that it's all they do. This is why a lot of people look down on Japan and anime.
* Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the later seasons of the show, but "Be Careful What You Fish For" turned out to be the worst ''Family Guy'' ever in my opinion. The episode was very boring outside of some of the [[Ricky Gervais]] dolphin's gags and the [[Cutaway Gag|Cutaway Gags]]s (particularly the one referencing ''[[The Adventures of Milo and Otis]]''), but the worst thing about this piece of shit was the subplot with Stewie and Brian. The latter ends up hitting a new low by shoving off the former to date his bitch teacher. Granted, he does get her arrested, but only because he found out she had a boyfriend. That's right. He was willing to shun Stewie and ignore his misery (and those of the other preschoolers) just to get a date. It made Stewie, who started this show as a sociopathic [[Jerkass]], more sympathetic than Brian, who's supposed to be the [[Only Sane Man]]. It ended up being the only episode of the series that I turned off the TV midway though. I didn't even stay to see the conclusion of the main plot. It sucked that hard.
** So what that subplot all boiled down to was: Brian tries to have sex with yet another brainless hot woman, who runs a shoddy daycare center and regularly neglects the kids she's supposed to watch. Brian doesn't turn her in or alert anyone about what she's doing just because it would put a damper on any chance he has to get with her. Then he learns she has a boyfriend, so he calls the police. I am just really hoping he gets either a physical or verbal asskicking at some point. But in all honesty, you have to wonder how much leeway Seth [[Mac Farlene]] has at this point if he's willing to voice Brian in a story like this.
** When I saw SSP, I thought, Brian can't get any worse, right? Well, I was somewhat wrong on the Thanksgiving episode (when dismissing a valid reason that Kevin deserting is wrong), and it was confirmed by the dolphin episode. I am not going to tell how horrible it was, I don't know what Gervais thought of this episode, or thought it sucked. But the subplot was worse. I knew what was going to happen, the old Brian sees a hot woman being the "babysitter," ignores the other people to try to have sex with her or see her naked, but later on, she is already taken. Same old, same old. What's worse, the fact that he said there was a special place for Hell for her, or the fact that there was no retribution or punishment for leaving the toddlers to fend for themselves. Or is it both, did he thought that saying a special place for Hell will make everything okay, even though as an atheist, "Hell doesn't exist?" Maybe the family should beat up Brian, or for irony, let Lois do it.
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