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** Not any more than [[Akira Toriyama]], that's for sure.
** I wonder if he'll ever use something like Lantana.
* The Slakoth/Vigoroth/Slaking evolution line. Over its lifetime the Pokémon's personality does a complete
** Teen rebelliousness and acting out that dies down with maturity.
*** Vigoroth don't gradually mature and re-evaluate their worldview like a human teen might. Presumably, they're wild and energetic one moment, reach level 36, and then suddenly evolve to lose all interest in anything but eating and sleeping.
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** Gift From Mom, sometimes. In at least one set of games (The second generation?) it was from the/a local Professor.
*** They're delicious. Same reason why lemonade is the best curing item ever.
**** But Lemonade only does 50
** The Ken Sugimori illustrated card "Mom's Kindness" shows Dawn's mother slipping a Potion into her bag.
* The addition of new Pokemon always bugs me. Are the lands so isolated that we don't know any Pokemon from other lands? I know there are out of universe explanations, but in universe?
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*** emerald fixes this by having groudon under there. the eruption would have presumably woken it up
*** Not to mention the fact that an erupting volcano would be far more likely to destroy every nearby town and ruin the land, making it impossible for humans or Pokemon to live there. Then again, Team Magma's plan was to cause a volcano to erupt by using a meteorite.
** [[The Dragon|Charon]], of Team Galactic, seems pretty savvy before he gets
* Why is the main character constantly asked to deliver packages and letters in the games? Do those regions not have a postal service or something?
** With ten-year-olds running around for free labour, as well as pokemon such as Zigzagoon or Wingull that can deliver messages...Who ''NEEDS'' a postal service?
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**** This is a recent problem, though. In the first game with breeding, Ditto could breed with another Ditto just fine, producing more Dittos until the cows came home. Nintendo took that out when they made the breeding more sophisticated, when Ditto started to have more effects on the offspring.
***** Really? ''Why''?...
****** At the risk of turning this into an FAQ, Nintendo started having the parents of bred Pokemon have greater and greater influence on the abilities of the children. If Ditto could still breed with Ditto, the [[Elite Tweak
******* And now most breeders just get a hacked ditto. There are also limits to what can be done to improve stats (+ 8 point on every stat, if I remember it right), so it's far from absurdly overpowered.
* Size is fundamentally messed up in the Pokemon universe. But still, they could have avoided putting a freaking ''whale'' in the game (Wailord) who should be able to win fights just by being launched from a Pokeball and crushing his opponent to a pulp. As it is, you can defeat the thing with a suitably leveled Pikachu.
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** Not to mention how one of the largest Pokemon is such a sissy. Onyx is apparently made of ancient styrofoam or something.
** You mean [http://razorcat.deviantart.com/art/Wailord-used-BODY-SLAM-106280391 like this]?
*** That wouldn't actually hurt that much, since Wailord appears to be roughly twice as dense as air (1.7
* How the heck can Pokemon fit inside Pokeballs? Not only that, how is it that just by catching them they are instantly brainwashed into obeying the trainer?
** In the original games and manga, they're shrunk. In the anime and later games, they're turned into pure energy and stored away. As for the second question, according to the anime, at least, wild Pokemon that attack trainers actually ''want'' to be caught, but only by strong trainers, and they battle to see if they're worthy of training them.
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***** Wait, I thought they turned into data, and that's how they're stored on PC? Which also explains why Porygon can manifest in the real world - it's just the same process backwards.
** In the manga, at least, badges ''literally'' brainwash pokemon (love and affection just make it [[More Than Mind Control]]).
*** However, in the games, it's noted that badges 'work' because they serve as proof of a trainer's skills, which in turns helps to convince their pokemon that said trainer is worthy of respect. The anime takes this in
* The 'Two-type' limit aside, why aren't Charizard and Gyarados Dragon-types? They're Dragon enough for Clair and Lance, both Dragon trainers...
** Probably because of competitive balance. (Seriously a starter with the over powered dragon type?)
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*** I liked the "inner black hole" theory someone proposed here before [[The Great Crash]]...
*** And, oh: think about this: one cubic decimeter of water weights 1 kilogram, roughly 2 pounds. It is "solid enough" to weigh all that, but still punching water will not cause it any damage. Just because something weights a lot, it doesn't mean it is ''solid''.
** Ok, maybe I'm not good at judging how much people weigh by looking at them, but how does Gardevoir, with its thin body and thinner legs weigh 106
*** For the record, Gardevoir is 5'3", which is pretty much the height of this underweight, short Asian troper, exactly. My weight? About 106 pounds.
** If you put gas in a container, it can get onto a scale and you can get some readings on it. Really, the difference between gas and solid is that gas molecules are not attached to each other and solid's do. As to how they don't get damage from Normal or Fighting, maybe they just phase out or something.
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*** Maybe it's only ''wild'' Beldum, Magnemite, etc. that evolve via bonding. Like a weird social practice. In captivity these pokemon can evolve on their own, but within their own cultures there is a stigma attached to solo evolution. Completely baseless? Probably, but the games seem to be offering no explanation anytime soon.
* Another breeding issue would be egg groups and who is or isn't in them. The most glaring example would probably be the Ralts family. They all look like they belong in the Humanshape breeding group, due to being very human-like, but instead, they're in the ''Indetermine'' egg group. Meaning that they breed with blobs and ghost Pokémon.
** ...maybe they're all [[Nightmare Fetishist
*** They may ''look'' humanlike, but they don't necessary ''reproduce'' like the Humanshapes. For all we know, they have acres of [[Naughty Tentacles|icky ghost tentacles]] under those skirts.
** The Humanshape group itself is very odd by including things that are Human''shaped'', but not necessarily humanlike at all. [[Squick|Hot Cacturne]] [[High Octane Nightmare Fuel|On Illumise Action]], [[Brain Bleach|anyone]]?
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*** Dude, you're including turtles, butterflies, palm trees, cows, goldfish, robots, jellyfish, pidgeons, beavers, cacti, stones, bagworms and whatnot in the same species... I know the concept of "species" and "variety" is subjective, but what kind of biologist in sane conscience would classify, say, a Chikorita and a Cyndaquil in the same species? Then again, the answer may be: "there are no biologists on Poké-Verse". Yeah, that'd answer pretty much...
**** The manga based on the anime says explicitly that all Pokemon are indeed one species, and that all of the different varieties (no matter how different they look) are sub-species. However, how canonical this is with anything else is unknown.
***** Yeah, if Pokemon are all one species, they are something ''way'' far away from normal biology. After all, the '''''creator of the fucking UNIVERSE''''' is a Pokemon!! And there's a whole subspecies (looking at you, Unown) comprised of [[Eldritch Abomination
**** I think it's more along the lines of "this Pokemon looks like a turtle" than "this Pokemon is a turtle." I don't think Pokemon are even members of the animal
***** Now that you mention it, they ''do'' mate anyway. Still, cows laying eggs is just... weird.
**** Pokemon breed with each other to produce fertile offspring. They are a single species by definition.
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** The PokéDex records data, shows stats as approximately as possible within the Pokeverse, sends the actual attacks through brainwaves or some other form of randomness ([[A Wizard Did It|Bill made it, mmkay?]]), cancels evolution through the same way as commanding the [[Mons]], records your collected <s>trophies</s> beasts, and finally, it acts as a license for the status of "Official Pokemon Trainer", since the term is interchange with "PokéDex Holder." Does that answer the question?
*** If the pokedex is as powerful as some of the media make it out to be (e.g. be able to analyze pokemon and record data such as their height, weight, habitat, act as a router to the PC system, exercise control over your [[Mons]], etc.), then why on earth can't it run rudimentary apps such as a 10-digit calculator and coin flip program (seriously, you're losing in versatility to a freaking watch?), considering all of the programs people can run on considerably less impressive graphing calculators in real life?
* While I do agree dragons, dinosaurs and stuff are bound to be rare Pokémon, I can't understand why some
** They seem to be immensely rare pokemon, like Lapras. For some reason, stronger pokemon tend to be a lot rarer. Professor Oak says that they were just caught in the wild. By the next game, more people have found them, but evidently, they are incredibly uncommon. Presumably, they don't breed that well, and as such, if you killed all the ones you met in the wild they would quickly become extinct.
** Are they rare? I just thought the fact that they didn't appear in the wild was a game mechanic.
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*** You're looking for [[Insurmountable Waist High Fence]].
** Keep in mind that you can also ride a bicycle full speed into a wall or another person without anyone getting harmed, also. Hell, your bike is so magical it will just ride in place if you try to ride straight into the water.
* This has always bugged me about the Pokemon universe: Pokemon evolve. Some can evolve just from experience, but others need rare items, conditions, or actions to initiate the
** Hm, this one's gotta be divided in topics. But before that, PMD is another world entirely, where humans don't exist. In the "normal" games, they simply evolve anywhere.
## Level up: trivial, here just for the sake it;
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** They haven't really gotten stronger and stronger. Mewtwo has been sitting pretty on his 'strongest pokemon in the game' throne for about a decade; the only pokemon that came close to threatening him was Deoxys. Oddly enough, Arceus has the power to trump him, but then Arceus can trump anyone with the right item. So Game Freak doesn't mind making legendaries that aren't QUITE as strong as the current king of the hill.
** Something to consider is whether or not the legendary pokemon actually ARE as strong as the legends imply. In Platinum, after beating the Elite Four, you can go back to the cave in Celestic City and talk to Cynthia again. There, she mentions the possibility that the ancient people who wrote those myths only believed Dialga and Palkia to be rulers of time and space because they saw them using their signature attacks. In other words, the legends quite possibly blow the apparent power levels of the pokemon out of proportion.
** Keep in mind a freshly-evolved Kingler is capable of destroying any of these "gods" in one hit if he lands it, or a properly-bred and item'd [[Lethal Joke Character|Rattata]] can annihilate nearly anything at level ''five''. In the anime, sure, they seem to actually possess these obscene powers; note people don't tend to actually catch or defeat them there either {{spoiler|[[Crowning Moment of Awesome|often]]}}. In the games though, one assumes whoever wrote the Pokedex listened to a few too many urban legends
*** In the games, the Pokedex guy is {{spoiler|you}}.
* Why is nobody bothered by the casinos? I mean, ignoring that the first one was run by a criminal syndicate, they all allow 10-year olds to gamble. Now, I'm willing to accept that 10-year-olds can go on long journeys, they travel in groups and have monsters to protect them. We never see the kids drinking, even in the anime, so there's clearly laws regarding sale of alcohol to minors, or else Brock would be a lush and would be hanging out in bars. So why are there no laws regarding forbidding minors to gamble? As young persons whose brains are not yet fully developed, they cannot make completely rational decisions, which, while helpful in dramatic battles where thinking outside the box with regards to magic monsters is a plus, this lack of rationality is much less helpful with regards to gambling away life savings, which I'm sure all of us players have done at some point in the poke-casino.
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** In FireRed and LeafGreen, at least, he doesn't call him a disgrace to Pokemon or whatever. He just says that the player won because the player cared for his/her Pokemon more.
* OK, what was Gary's starter? I don't remember that ever being directly answered in the anime. Was it that Eevee? If so, what the heck happened to Oak's Bulbasaur, Squirtle, and Charmander, and why do we never see their trainers?
** As far as I recall, both Ash's Bulbasaur and Charmander were abandoned by their trainers, that being the reason Ash ended up with
** Wasn't he shown to have a Blastoise at one point? If so, there's a good chance he went with Squirtle (it's not Charmander, since we saw its original trainer in the episode we met it).
** Squirtle is definitely Gary's starter, it was confirmed. Eevee, he picked up elsewhere. Meanwhile, the Charmander and Bulbasaur Ash acquired are ''never'' hinted to be the same ones given to the other two Pallet town trainers. Remember that we meet Charmander's original trainer Damien? If he was from Pallet, Ash would likely have recognised him, it's a small town after all. The two Pallet trainers were stated to have given up training, it was never said that they abandoned Bulbasaur and Charmander.
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* A [[Fridge Logic]], Mammalian-based Pokemon can somehow lay Egg. WTF?
** Pokemon aren't identical to real-life animals. And Pokemon ''consistently'' lay eggs if they have the capability. I'm not seeing the problem.
** That, and mammals can lay eggs. Not many of our [[Real Life]] mammals
* The whole fainting thing always bothered me. I mean, there's flame throwers, some hot enough to melt rock, burning their flesh. Hyperbeams, solar beams, poisons, and some of them even blow themselves up. And they never die, only faint. Huh?
** It's the result of Satoshi Tajiri attempting to avert [[Death Is Cheap]] in a game about battling monsters. An admirable, if nonsensical attempt, if I do say so myself.
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** Concerning the issue of why you only get a level five Pokémon, well you're a rookie. The professor can't just hand out level seventy Dragonites and expect new trainers to use them properly. As for why they can't fill the Pokédex themselves? It's a job that requires lots of travelling. The professors are genrally too old and/or too busy with other research to be hiking all over Kanto/Johto etc. As for why they live in quiet areas, well some people prefer quiet areas. We don't ''exactly'' what they're researching, but presumably it's stuff they can do on their own or, worst case, via e-mail with other professors.
*** On that note, why the hell should a professor be expected to raise a pokémon up to a high level so you can have it? The research is a favour to the professors and all it involves is not throwing away a little red electronic note book that is quite handy, I say that's fair trade for a beast that can create fire/water/nature.
** It's pretty clear that the Pokemon professors and researchers in the setting seem to be taking the Pavlov school of
** Keep in mind the fact that the only professor who asked you specifically to go out on a journey to fill the Pokedex is Oak, who figures that you, his neighbor kid, will do just fine with it, and gives you a rare Mon to help you out. Elm just wanted you to run a favor for him, and gave you the starter as payment. You save Professor Birch with your starter, so he lets you keep it. Rowan either a/ wanted the Pokemon you chose to bond with you after spending some time with you, or B/ decided to give tthese two whacky kids Pokemon for giggles, before saddling them with a Pokedex.
* Grimer is created by sludge exposed to X-rays emitted by the moon...wait, what?
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*** The regions we've seen in the core Pokemon games are just portions of Japan. As far as I know, we have yet to see an actual continent in the games. Also, real life continents have been referenced in the game, such as Mew being found in South America.
**** Don't forget Lt. Surge, the Lightning American.
** Groudon learns
* Grimer was created by lunar rays hitting toxic sludge. Porygon was created by a computer program. Voltorb is implied to be a sort of mutant Pokeball. If it's so easy to create Pokemon, why don't more people do it?
** Mewtwo was created. Not only did other manmade specimens pale in comparison, but he also served as an excellent example of why people ''shouldn't'' go around making new ones. (The Porygon types didn't get the memo; then again, their [[AI Is a Crapshoot|AI isn't too crapshooty]].)
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** ''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure]]'' follows likewise, but with the Gym Leaders (Volkner is absent for undefined reasons). Cynthia's there, however, but she doesn't do much but stop Jupiter with one hit...which come to think of it is her role in the anime's Spear Pillar plot too.
* What is the point of Detect being a move? It's exactly like Protect, a move that can be learned through an infinitely available TM by any mon that can learn any TM, except it only has ''half the PP''. There isn't even any benefit to using both at once, since using either means the other it less likely to work that turn.
** Actually, there's a good reason to use Detect in Double Battles. Given that Protect/Detect make you practically invulnerable for one turn, they're very useful for dodging moves that the other pokemon uses that hits every pokemon on the field (such as Explosion, Surf, Earthquake and so forth) if the pokemon isn't immune to or absorbs that attack. Given this, some people will put pokemon on their teams that know the move Imprision, which prevents any pokemon from using any moves known by the Imprision user, and Protect to nullify the move and prevent the enemy from dodging
* Is the water used by Water-types consumable? The ninth anime movie shows Max almost drinking water that came from a Poliwhirl, but the plot stopped him from doing so; is it healthy? Is it unlimited? Why do some people (anime and game) seem to be thirsty if they can drink this kind of water?
** It's probably as drinkable as any other water available in nature. In other words, boil it first. They aren't firing tap water.
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* so where do trainers get money to buy potions and food anyway?
** ...Seriously? You don't know? It's not as if trainers are piss poor or that they don't have means to get money, or savings, or parents, or whatever, what kind of question is that?
** Given that most trainers are kids...tell me, have you ever heard of "pocket money"? It's probably a ritual in Hoenn etc. to save up small amounts of money from
* Are Gastly, Haunter, and Gengar forms of dead pokemon or are they their own entity?
** Well, we see a ghost Marowak, so we can assume actual ghosts take the form of whatever they were while alive. Since you can breed Gastlys, it's probable that they're simply their own species of gas things that happen to usually live in creepy locations, and people just thought they were ghosts.
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* What is the point of Phione? Is there some myth/legend that ties it up to Manaphy? It's pretty much just a clone only worse...
** It is an ''unevolved'' manaphy.
*** No, the species is normally Phiones, it's just that [[One in A Million Chance|occasionally]] a Manaphy is born of them
* A Magneton is composed of three Magnemite, but weighs more than ten Magnemite. [[Memetic Mutation|Fucking magnets, how do they work?]]
** A Magneton is only said to be comprised of three Magnemite in the Pokédex, which most people agree is inaccurate. In truth, a Magneton is just one Magnemite that has evolved. And like any other evolved Pokémon, it's bigger and heavier than it's previous form.
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** It's probably just that it can hover above the ground, but it can't go any higher than that hover.
* Platinum's Battle Factory, Level 100 mode. Rhydon and Porygon2 can be used, but Pokemon such as the Hitmons, Ninjask, and Wobbuffet cannot. Also, they are the only two not-fully evolved Pokemon that can be used in this mode (Magneton, Dusclops, and others cannot be used, for example). Why is this?
* The funny thing about all the pokedex entries is that I think there's an episode of the show that [[Lampshade
* In ''Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Something-or-other'' (Frontier, I think), why did Clayton (the guy who used all of the ridiculous abbreviations) repeatedly call himself a Pokemon-trainer Martial Artist instead of a Pokemart? Did they just not want to stoop thjat low for the [[Stealth Pun|obvious]] pun?
** It's Sinnoh League Victors. Also, this makes me wish that Dawn had called upon Pachirisu, simply so he could have called him [[Don Pachi|Dawnpachi]].
* Pokeballs are around five inches tall. Voltorb are about a foot tall. [[Fridge Logic|How do you mistake a Voltorb for a Pokeball?]]
** If you mean the [[Chest Monster|items that turn out to be Voltorbs]], the Gamecube games show that the "Pokeball items" are not in Pokeballs, but Pokeball-themed chests, about the size of a Voltorb. Of course, they aren't ''shaped'' like Voltorb now... Maybe Orre's item boxes are just uniquely shaped, and the others are round?
*** The Pokédex states that both [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Voltorb#Pok.C3.A9dex_entries_2 Voltorb] ''and'' [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Electrode#Pok.C3.A9dex_entries_2 Electrode] are mistaken for Poké Balls. A Poké Ball is a little bigger than a baseball. Voltorb are one-foot-eight (50
*** This could be explained by a page in the manga that had many, many Voltorbs and Electrodes of WILDLY varying sizes, with some Electrodes as small as regular Pokéballs, and a Voltorb as big as a regular Electrode. No clue how that happens, but it was in the manga. x'3
* [[Improbable Species Compatibility|Why can a thousand pound whale mate with a 2 pound cat?]]. How is said whale only a thousand pounds? How can a water dragon possibly bounce? Why are children encouraged to go out into the wilderness alone where wild monsters lurk?
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* Why are some shipping names so random? For example, VolknerxMaylene is called Firecrackershipping, which doesn't make all that much sense at all. If you're going to go out of your way and name a ship, at least make it make sense.
** Your first mistake was asking shipping to make sense... they have some logic behind it, but it's usually very strained or obscure. The best choice would be to avoid shippers altogether, after all, that's what I do...
** Coming straight from the [[Yu-Gi-Oh!]] fandom, I agree, but personally, I think that "creative" pairing names are much nicer than horrors like "[[Supernatural (TV series)|Destiel]].
* What's with the time? I called up Erika at 10 AM on Sunday, and she told me "I'm usually free Sunday mornings." Then I called Sabrina, who is free on Sunday afternoons, and sure enough, she was ready to battle. Since when was 10 o'clock considered Noon/Afternoon? Is that the way it is in Japanese culture?
** After 10 AM, it's called daytime (in G/S/C at least, don't know about HG/SS), and gym leaders call it afternoon for simplicity's sake.
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* How in the world are the Pokemon Center's paid for? The trainer never pays for the Pokemon to be healed; where do they obtain the resources to run these facilities at no charge?
** I always assumed that one of the few things the government in Pokemon actually did was to pay for health care.
** Maybe in Isshu at least they're supported by the Pokémarts because [[Fridge Logic|the health care industry in the U.S. is all profit-based insurance companies.]] But then again though; maybe it's just way cheaper to pay for machines that heal pokémon rather than humans who develop all sorts of complex diseases so people don't have a problem with paying for other trainers' pokémon to be healed. I don't know if the Anime or the manga have like, Pokémon surgeries or pokémon ailments rather than Pokérus (And even then, it's symbiotic) but if it's just a magical machine that revitalizes pokémon? Maybe it's so cheap people aren't objected to pay for it the way they are in real life.
* There's Lemonade and Nomel Berries. Does that mean there are normal fruit and berries in the universe? Or should Lemonade be called "Nomelade" or even "Edanomel"?
** I'd like to assume berries replace fruit like Pokemon replace animals. "Lemonade" may just be [[Grandfather Clause]] in action. The only other problem is apples instead of Leppa Berries in the Mystery Dungeon games. While on the subject of fruit and berries, can someone tell me what Iapapa is based on? I thought papaya at first, but then we have Payapa Berries. The only other fruit that gets repeated is Yache and Custap Berries, but those are at least different names for the same fruit. Finally, why are there Shuca and Charti Berries if their inspiration isn't fruit (Cashew and Artichoke.)?
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