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* [[Anvilicious]]/SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: ''Mother 3'' is many things, but one thing it is ''not'' is subtle. A lot of its fans will assert that the messages aren't bad or that the game would lose a lot of its charm without the overt morals, however.

* [[Complete Monster]]: {{spoiler|Porky's actions in the previous game made him a real [[Jerkass]], but here... What he does to Lucas' family (and what he plans to do to the world, ''just for kicks'') is pure [[Player Punch]].}}

** {{spoiler|Porky has no sympathetic qualities beyond acting like a twisted child, which he gleefully abuses. Somehow people insist he's a woobie anyway, right on this page. Maybe in the beginning, before all this, he was [[The Woobie]], but definitely not anymore.}}

** It's easy to beat the game before Kumatora reaches level 60. It breaks the game, but it's still difficult to acquire. Even intentionally trying to get it, the player is unlikely to have much use for it in the final few dungeons, which are more lengthy than challenging.

** There's a reason Salsa never returns to the party after {{spoiler|his brief reappearance in Chapter 7}}: his Monkey Mimic ability becomes a little ''too'' effective the closer you get to the end.

** During Chapter 3 Fassad is trying to get the people of the Tazmily Village to buy into the happiness boxes stating they are the best way to happiness. If you talk to Paul (one of the people who doesn't buy into the boxes), he'll remark he doesn't need happiness because it (meaning his wife Linda) is standing next to him. It's just a quick throwaway NPC line but seriously, aww.

** Chapter 6. Just... [[Tear Jerker|Chapter 6.]]

* [[Ho Yay]]: While underwater, you must fill up on oxygen by kissing robot O2 tanks who look like middle aged [[Our Mermaids Are Different|mermen]] wearing bright red lipstick. It makes Lucas, Kumatora, and Boney blush. Duster blushes too, but it's difficult to see due to his sprite's cheek marks being only a single pixel big. In the last level there's a similar looking centaur that offers oxygen above water for no reason.

** One of the Pigmasks comments that he kind of likes them, disturbing his comrade.

** There's also a Pigmask who nervously offers you an item when {{spoiler|you're dressed as "the Commander"}} and insists it's just a friendly gift.

** Flinty-poo ~<3 ...What? That was my Magypsy impression. Do you like it? ...Don't act so embarrassed!

* [[Memetic Molester]]: There are often questions regarding what Ionia did to Lucas in that hot spring...

* [[Memetic Mutation]]: [[Blessed Are the Cheesemakers|FLINT LOVES CHEESE]]

** :|

** a Ultimate Chimera appears!

** The Ultimate Chimera itself is considered one. Heck, it even has it's own [[Garry's Mod|GMod]] game mode. With pigmasks!

** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhPi42bOULI How would you make a ladder?]

* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: Unused battle backgrounds found within the game's data revealed something.. well.. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubVnmeTRqhg stuff like this.] The [[Epileptic Trees]] went ''flying'' after this was uncovered. No matter what it is, though, it's disturbing as hell.

** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn0UauHriII Lucas' Nightmare music.]

* [[Player Punch]]: If you thought {{spoiler|Porky was bad before}}...

* [[Sacred Cow]]

** Though the two most difficult bosses in the game become trivial once you reach 45 and 50 respectively.

* [[That One Attack]] : Some of the battle songs are a pain in the ass to combo.

** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdEF9FlXNno So I heard you like songs in 29/16.]

* [[That One Boss]]:

** The Jealous Bass, a [[Flunky Boss]] that gets a massive attack buff when you take out its flunkies.

** {{spoiler|New/Miracle Fassad}}, for being fond of status effects, having high-level PSI, and being able to heal 500+ HP seemingly at random.

** The Natural Killer Cyborg, who is ''huge'' and extremely tough.

** {{spoiler|Porky}}, who hits hard (surprised?) and has [[That One Attack|an attack]] that hits your entire party for massive attack and defense debuffs.

** Boney and Duster are virtually superfluous and most players will end up using them simply for bashing the enemy. Duster's status moves are useful on occasion but not overly so.

* [[Tear Jerker]]: And HOW. The subtitle is "Strange, Funny, and Heartrending" for a reason.

** The entire last hour of the game. Everything about it will pretty much leave you in tears up to and including the final shot.

* [[The Woobie]]: Lucas. At the start of the game, he's pretty shy and quiet, already making him a bit of a woobie. But then, {{spoiler|his mother is killed by a half-mechanical Drago that was ''acting against its own will'', and then his brother Claus goes missing trying to avenge her. His father goes nearly insane with grief, trying to find Claus every single day for ''three years''. [[It Got Worse|But that's not it]]. After three years, the hometown he loved has now been developed into a modern city, and eventually is completely abandoned. Then, after learning that everything he knew about his beloved hometown is a lie, he learns that the mysterious Pigmask commander is Claus, who is now a [[Brainwashed and Crazy]] cyborg. Cue an [[Tear Jerker|incredibly tragic]] [["I Know You're in There Somewhere" Fight]], which ends with Claus [[Died in Your Arms Tonight|dying in Lucas' arms]], [[Dying as Yourself|after returning to his senses]].}}

** Averted in the case of Hinawa's name. Tomato almost gave her the name "Amber," which would have fit very well considering she's married to Flint (in Japanese, their names reference "Hinawa-juu" and "Furinto-juu," meaning matchlock and flint guns) but decided to leave that one alone.

*** Similarly, other names like Kumatora are kept, avoiding this trope as well.

 

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