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* [[Accidental Innuendo]]: "Omens Part One" sees Lion-O and Tygra act out a longstanding [[Sibling Rivalry]] by competing in a racing [[Chase Fight]] game, the object of which is to climb a tree and ring a bell while fighting off one's competitor. Lion-O announces that he'll ring the bell, whereupon Tygra replies "And I'm gonna ring ''yours''," smiling and tipping a wink. The series' fans, unaware of the phrase's usage in sport (Tygra has threatened to beat Lion-O into a concussion), and remembering that Tygra has previously smiled and winked to [[The Charmer|explicitly flirt]], [[Shipping Goggles|seized on]] the exchange's oddly sexual undertone to launch a [[Not Blood Siblings]] [[Ho Yay]] ship.
* [[Alternate Aesop Interpretation]]:
** "Song of the Petalars": "Retreat is cowardice"
** "The Duelist and the Drifter": "Don't depend on the awesomeness of your sword, depend on your [[Power Copying|spontaneously generated]] superpowers."
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* [[Anvilicious]]: "Ramlak Rising"'s "revenge is bad" Aesop.
* [[Ass Pull]]: For some people, the season-end hook-up between {{spoiler|Tygra and Cheetara}} came from ''way out'' of left field.
* [[Awesome Music (Sugar Wiki)|Awesome Music]]:
** No one expected the music to be that ''epic''.
** Though things looked grim when "Omens" first premiered and [[No Theme Tune]] was evident, "Ramlak Rising" gave viewers a hypercompressed spin on a classic. There's the [[Iconic Logo]], the [[Fanfare]], the [[Epic Riff]], even the ''words'' are "audible." Verdict: [[Three Chords and the Truth|Stripped down]], but still epic.
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** Or {{spoiler|Emrick the Petalar}}'s funeral.
** Lion-O's theme, which gets broken out any time he does something particularly awesome, is heroic beyond description.
* [[Base Breaker]]:
** Like their 80's counterparts, the Berbils.
** To say nothing of Tygra. His [[Green-Eyed Monster|constant jealously]] of Lion-O has earned him a fair share of dislikers.
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* [[Better on DVD]]: This is rapidly becoming apparent. One complaint against the series is that [[Continuity Lock Out|it's very hard to leap in halfway and know what's going on.]] The creators have stated that they tried to plot the show into tightly focused, 13 episode arcs [[Genre Savvy|because they know how hard it is to get a second season these days]] and wanted to make sure the audience got a complete story just in case things don't go their way. Some episodes don't really ''end'' as much as they just stop only to pick up right where they left off the next week.
** By [[Word of God]] the show is broken up into mini-arcs (of roughly seven episodes apiece, give or take) within the overarching season arc. Of particular note, the episodes "The Pit," "Curse of Ratilla," and "Birth of the Blades" were conceived and written as one single narrative.
* [[Cargo Ship]]: Panthro's only love interest is the Thundertank.
* [[Cliché Storm]]: The most common complaint leveled against the premiere, other than ones related to [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]].
* [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]/[[Nostalgia Filter]]/[[They Changed It, Now It Sucks/Western Animation|They Changed It Now It Sucks]]:
** Before the first episode aired, people who grew up with the [[Thundercats|original 80's show]] denounced the 2011 "[[Animesque|too anime]]" character designs, though the [http://slices-of-life.com/2011/03/02/thundercats-characters-hoooo-old-and-new/ original designs are both dated], and themselves [[Animesque]] in their time.
** However the show has received near-unanimous praise on [http://www.thundercats.ws/ Thundercats.ws], one of the largest Thundercats fan-boards out there.
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* [[Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy]]: Seems to be CR's main complaint when reviewing the premiere on ''[[Familiar Faces]].'' (Some commenters thought he was missing the point.)
* [[Designated Villain]]: The Duelist. A [[Hustling the Mark|hustler]], yes, and happy to challenge others to a [[Duel to the Death]]. But he did ''win'' those swords.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Ensemble Darkhorses]]:
** The Thunderkittens are well liked by initial reviewers, and are already popular with fans just from the previews and leaks. One review even called them the [[Breakout Character|Breakout Characters]] of the show.
** Holding Panthro back for a few episodes only served to make an already popular character a clear fan-favorite.
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** Certain characters who haven't even been confirmed to ''exist'' yet in this version are inexplicably popular, like Bengali.
** The hype surrounding the appearance of Pumyra was ''insane'', and within ''hours'' of her design being revealed (in preview clips and concept art released by the production team) fanart and fanfiction started coming in. Not bad for someone who was all but dropped from the original's cast. She's even starting to edge out Cheetara as the fans favorite female.
** The Cats from the flashback in "Legacy," Leo, Panthera, and Tygus, have a strong following and get lots of fan art.
* [[Epic Riff]]: Still retained in the stripped down [[Truncated Theme Tune]]
* [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop]]: "Song of the Petalars": You might still have a chance of escaping your pursuers and attaining a noble goal when the fate of your people, perhaps even your ''planet'' hangs in the balance? Don't feel like it. We're [[Tired of Running]]! Thundercats [[Honor Before Reason|never retreat]]! Let's make our [[Last Stand]] for [[Glory Hound|glory]]! Never mind the cowering eight-year-old refugees!
** Fabulously [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] the very next episode by Panthro dryly noting how miraculous it is they've survived this long "without adult supervision."
** "The defeat of your enemy is worth any sacrifice". Granted, we probably aren't meant to completely agree with this, but Panthro does subscribe to this line of thinking when {{spoiler|he sacrifices both his arms to trap Grune in the spirit world.}}
* [[Fan Dumb]]: People criticized the characters for being shallow after only ''one premiere episode.'' Even ''[[Shortpacked]]'' [http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/comic/book-13/03-fishin-chicks/tldr/ negatively compared it] to ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'', though those characters were also underdeveloped in the first episode, but then fleshed out over three seasons. Jumping the gun much?
** Some of the more extreme reactions to Episode 13 qualify.
* [[Faux Symbolism]]: Tygra's backstory has distinctly biblical elements. {{spoiler|His father was ordered to sacrifice him by a higher power, but didn't go through with it (Abraham and Isaac) and he was sent away for his own safety to be found and raised by the royal family (Moses)}}.
* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]:
** Early in the second season of the [[Thundercats|original 80's show]], Lynx-O tells Lion-O that his voice sounds just like his father's. In the 2011 remake, Larry Kenny, Lion-O's original VA, will be the VA for Lion-O's father, Claudus.
** A kingdom of cats with one black maned cat leading a rebellion against the king with the oppressed minorities? [[The Lion King|Why does that sound familiar?]]
* [[Ho Yay]]:
** Yup. Already. Of the [[Sibling Incest]] variety, no less. [[Accidental Innuendo]] or [[Incest Subtext]]?
{{quote|'''Lion-O''': "I'm going to ring that bell."
'''Tygra''': "And I'm going to ring yours." *wink* }}
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** Claudus and Grune. They certainly seemed ''close''.
** Likewise Claudus rushing to Panthro's [[Roaring Rampage of Rescue|rescue]].
** The flashbacks when Panthro and Grune meet are full of this, starting with Panthro's: "Grune, we've been [[Heterosexual Life Partners|inseparable]] ever since that first day we met on the battlefield"
* [[Informed Wrongness]]: Lion-O gets hit with this a lot. Even his good decisions land him in the doghouse.
* [[It Was His Sled]]:
** {{spoiler|The cleric Jaga's}} seeming death during "Omens Part Two" comes as no surprise to anyone who's seen the original as he spent most of his time there {{spoiler|as a ghostly apparition}} after dying at the start of the series.
** And now subverted in "Ramlak Rising".
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* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Mumm-Ra.
** Rataro even more so. Elegant. Sophisticated. Tyrannical. Rataro has his own agenda for domination and couldn't care less about Mumm-Ra.
* [[Memetic Molester]]:
** Tygra will [[Accidental Innuendo|ring your bell]], whether you want him to or not.
** More like [[Memetic Sex God]]. [[Even the Guys Want Him|You know you want him to.]]
* [[Memetic Mutation]]:
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** Nothing that happens to Panthro matters because he's dead.
** "Whiskers!"
* [[Moe]]:
** The Thunderkittens.
** Also, Emrick. [[I'm Taking Her Home with Me|Awww!]]
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* [[Mood Whiplash]]: At the end of "Between Brothers", {{spoiler|Panthro loses both his hands for throwing Grune in the collapsing Astral Plane.}} Then the scene shifts to a party and Panthro yelling at Snarf for being a nursemaid. Would it hurt to be a slight bit serious?
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: For Mumm-Ra. Stabbing King Claudius in the back? Subjecting wise old Jaga to a [[Fate Worse Than Death]]? Hiring psychos like [[Ax Crazy|Kaynar]] and [[I'm a Humanitarian|Addicus]]? Bringing about the downfall of Thundera and enslaving its people? Trying to [[Take Over the World]]? {{spoiler|Oh, no... it's when, in the past, he destroyed a ''populated solar system'' to forge the Sword of Plun-Darr that he established himself as a monstrous being.}}
* [[Narm]]/[[Narm Charm]]:
** The [[Really Dead Montage]] for {{spoiler|Emrick the Petalar}} varies in effectiveness depending on the viewer's contextual tolerance for [[Viewers Are Goldfish]].
** Most of the dialogue in "Into the Astral Plane" and "Between Brothers" comes off as [[Dull Surprise|detatched]], stock dialogue
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]:
** The amount and speed that Thundera is destroyed by the Lizards' military power. Lion-O lampshades this, saying his dream has become his nightmare.
** Mumm-Ra's, well, everything.
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** In "Soul Sever", {{spoiler|Tygra gets his soul torn out}} and the result is a soul devouring robotic horror. Foreshadowed by Tygra who comments that the scenario was "...The stuff of nightmares."
* [[One-Scene Wonder]]: Lynx-O has a small cameo in "Omens Part Two". Fans are already placing bets on when he returns (possibly with Bengali and Pumyra in tow)
* [[Rescued
** Snarf. Being a less-sentient non-speaking creature mean's he's not a nagging whiner this time around. Fan response has been much more positive. Also WilyKit and WilyKat, for those who found them annoying in the original.
** Although there are the few fans who ''enjoyed'' Snarf's voice in the original, and are actually ''upset'' he doesn't talk.
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** Wait, is that [[Boy Meets World|Eric Matthews]] fighting [[Team Fortress 2|The Medic]]?!
* [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]]: Like with all fandoms, but in this case it was a three way battle: [[Bodyguard Crush|Lion-O/Cheetara]] vs. [[Childhood Friend Romance|Tygra/Cheetara]] vs. [[Ho Yay|Lion-O/Tygra.]] {{spoiler|Tygra/Cheetara wins.}}
* [[Shipping Goggles]]: The peculiar [[Incest Subtext]]-laden [[Accidental Innuendo]] of "Omens Part One" gave rise to Lion-O/Tygra [[Not Blood Siblings]] [[Ho Yay Shipping]].
* [[So Cool It's Awesome (Sugar Wiki)|So Cool Its Awesome]]: The premiere has been getting phenomenally good reception from both fans and those new to ''[[Thundercats]]''. [[Studio 4°C]]'s reputation from projects like ''[[Batman Gotham Knight]]'' and ''[[The Animatrix]]'', high quantities of [[Badass]] and [[Moe]], and a lot of [[Hey, It's That Guy!]] are probably all factors bringing the new fans in.
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]:
** Think of that Berbil arm seen briefly in "Omens Part One"...
* [[Villain Decay]]: The Lizards have certainly taken a big hit from "overwhelmingly terrifying badasses" to "typical [[Red Shirt]] fodder". Unusually, losing their motivating racial pathos (whatever happened to the [[Merciful Minion]]?) is a contributing factor.
** Lampshaded in the season 2 opener, where Slithe tells Mumm-Ra that his minions are under strict (and correct) impressions that he thinks of them as expendable drones.
* [[Wangst]]: Tygra and Lion-O's angst over their competition for Cheetara's attention revolves around their need for her to confirm that she's "chosen" one of them without directly telling her ''their'' feelings, (and risking her explicit rejection), their [[Sibling Rivalry]] and mutual jealousy of one another, and Cheetara herself not being clear on where her affections lie. Passive-aggressive teenagers!
* [[What an Idiot!]]: the guy who had just bumped into somebody carelessly thinks he should scream "robbers" when two kids in rags reveal themselves trying to give back his bag of money.
* [[The Woobie]]:
** Lion-O, let's recap. So far Lion-O has lost his father, his mentor, his surrogate father {{spoiler|Captain Tunar}}. Also, his surrogate little brother {{spoiler|Emrick the Petalar.}} The latest being that he {{spoiler|[[Did Not Get the Girl]],}} and to top it all off {{spoiler|now he's ''dead!''}} MAN! the poor guy might as well be wearing "Kick Me" on his back or something!
** Tygra too - his birth mother presumably dies, his birth father {{spoiler|sends him away from home to protect him}}, his adopted mother {{spoiler|dies in childbirth}}, and then his adopted father dies. He grows up knowing he will lose his kingdom to his little brother and feeling like he doesn't belong, and when he finally finds his real home, {{spoiler|everyone in it dies, including his birth father, leaving him the last tiger.}} In his own words: "Tell me, Lion-O, is it my destiny to lose everything I care most about?"
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