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* Waaaaaait a moment, Ms. Champion. Wait just a moment. I distinctly recall fighting tooth and nail for hours on end without healing to get to this insane [[Eldritch Location]], then having to solve insane [[Gravity Screw]] puzzles in there so I can finally get to fight an insanely difficult [[Omnicidal Maniac]] while hanging onto the last shreds of sanity. Now I hope I don't come across as tactless and all, but ''where was your lv. 62 Garchomp then?''
** Addressed on the page: [[Helping Would Be Killstealing]].
** "Player! You're our only hope of beating Cyrus and saving the world, even though my pokemon are probably double your level and could easily destroy his team! Good luck!"
** There's some indication, right before you fight her in her capacity as League Champion, that she's been grooming you to challenge her and the Elite four all along. So its possible she had you fight Cyrus so your pokemon could get the experience for beating him. If you lost, she could have just stepped in and ground him to dust in your stead, but by winning, you take another step on the path to the League. And she left you Giratina because she's nice like that (did *anyone* not catch the mascot legendary? In any of the games?).
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* What's with the pseudo-rival's family here? They seem far more interested in you than their child. And why do they just stand outside the lab after beating the game? Don't they have their own house to go to? Or even going inside the lab?
** [["Well Done, Son" Guy]]. They don't see their son worthy enough. Or maybe...Palmer is your father! DUN DUN DUN. (Just realized how you and your rival's relationship totally changes when you see them as family. Changes Silver somewhat, huh?)
** We're taking about [[
*** Oh, I always assumed she was making fun of you two about the couple thing. I'm not sure what the exact quote was, but it was more like, "What are you, some lovey-dovey couple to the rescue?". She didn't really go on about it that much.
** You are a [[Child Prodigy]]. Someone who has saved your region from destruction, destroyed a cult, captured a bunch of Pokemon, and became a champion at only eleven. Your psuedo-rival is a [[Flat Character]] who researches Pokemon.
*** So? It's still their ''kid'', whether or not I'm awesome doesn't mean they should go ignored.
*** Eh, Prof. Oak did the same thing with his grandson; maybe having little respect for family members just comes naturally to Pokémon researchers.
** A lot of families tend to react like that, for a period of time at least.
* Fire Fang hits through Wonder Guard, even when hacked. Discuss.
** My best guess would be a way to stop cheating courtesy of Game Freak. Look at it this way, Wonder Guard prevents all attacks except for super effective moves. Best thing to solo the game with <ref> This strategy is commonly used in the Battle Tower/Frontier to get lots of BP to earn prizes with</ref>. Problem is, only one Pokēmon (Shedinja) has this and it isn't exactly the best Pokēmon to use. Solution? Hack it on to something with no weaknesses<ref> Spiritomb is a popular choice because of it's unique type combination</ref> like Spiritomb. However, Game Freak caught to this and made Fire Fang able to hit through Wonder Guard to catch cheaters and hackers off guard. Why is it a guess? As far as I know, Game Freak hasn't said anything about this which would make this somewhat of a [[Guide Dang It]].
** Fire Fang no longer has this property in BW, so this may have just been a glitch. Note that it would normally hit Shedinja anyway because it's super-effective, so GF may not have realized this in time.
*** The point was to stop hackers, not people using the ability legitimately...
**** Shedinja, the only Pokemon who can legitimately have this ability, is already weak to fire. The Fire Fang thing works effectively to deter cheaters and doesn't change anything when used properly.
*** Actually, Porygon, Porygon2, Ralts, Kirlia, and Gardevoir are all able to Trace Wonder Guard. As Porygon and Porygon2 are able to learn Conversion and Conversion 2, it is actually possible to have a pokemon only able to be hit by Fighting type moves, or by Ground type moves. If Fire Fang can hit through Wonder Guard on any of these pokemon, then it is a glitch, and not an intentional method of deterring cheaters.
** Actually, Spiritomb doesn't have an unique type combination, as it shares the Ghost/Dark typing with Sableye.
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* So, how come in ''Platinum,'' the cutscene at the Spear Pillar adds Dialga and Palkia to the Pokédex as seen without you having to battle or catch them until later, but the events in the Distortion World don't do the same for the lake trio?
** Most likely because it's not all that difficult to just go to the lake trio's caves and just encounter them there. Annoying, yes, but having to get to Spear Pillar all over again just for Dialga and Palkia's 'dex data would be even worse.
* How one is expected to capture the level 1 Regigigas in Platinum. You can't battle it until you have all three legendary golems in your party. How do you unlock the way to them? Having an event only level 100 Regigigas in your party, therefore making the level 1 Regigigas obsolete.
** The level 1 Regigigas isn't actually useless. The level 100 Regigigas can't be EV-trained (kinda like customizing its stats through use) because EV's take effect when the Pokemon levels up. A level 100 CAN'T level up. Which makes the level 1 you get far better than the level 100 when they're both at level 100.
*** Just for information, the level 100 Regigigas can be trained somewhat using vitamins (and the so-called "box trick" to claim the results), and can also be EV Trained in Black and White, where the mechanism for updating stats was altered. Same, of course, for any other level 100 pokemon.
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