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* While [[The Joker]] was (save for a stretch during [[The Fifties]] and [[The Sixties]]) always portrayed as a total psychopath, it is generally considered that he crossed the [[Moral Event Horizon]] in 1988 when, within a few months, he crippled Batgirl for life and beat the second, still-teenaged Robin (Jason Todd) to death with a crowbar, changing his portrayal permanently into a [[Complete Monster]].
* The title character of the ''[[Lucifer (comics)|Lucifer]]'' comics [[Kick the Dog|punted dogs]] as a hobby (naturally), establishing him quite firmly as an epic [[Deadpan Snarker]] and [[Sociopathic Hero]] that was as amusing and [[Badass]] as those tropes suggest. This continued all the way until the Basanos arc, where in a rather impressive twist the Basanos actually mortally injured him... only for Lucifer to reveal that he had manipulated [[Token Mini-Moe]] Elaine from the start and trick her into dying in his place. He might have redeemed himself later on (bringing Elaine [[Back
** An argument somewhat undermined by the facts that 1) said writer made The Mansions of The Silence look pretty hellish, making the destruction of all those souls almost a [[Mercy Kill]]; and 2) Lucifer's "impatience" allowed him to arrive just in time to rescue his...friends?...from a murderous undead god.
** And 3) It's mentioned you cannot destroy souls. All of the Mansions of the Silence's prisoners will eventually reform. This hardly makes it pleasant, though.
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*** And he [[Who Shot JFK?|shot JFK]].
** For the Red Skull in the main universe it's hard to pin down when he crossed it. It actually seems like he was born in the [[Moral Event Horizon]]. He is consistently portrayed as [[Even Evil Has Standards|the one supervillain that all other supervillains loathe.]]
*** The Red Skull needed less than two years membership in the Nazi party to reach the point where '''Hitler''' was squicked out by him.
* In JL: A Cry for Justice, Prometheus {{spoiler|ripped off Red Arrow's arm, and then killed his 5 year old daughter Liane along with 90,000 others in Star City}} (the latter part was released the same week as Ultimate Red Skull throwing a baby out of a window).
* In ''[[Kick-Ass]]'', {{spoiler|Red Mist and his father, mob boss Johnny G, manage to cross this at the same time. After going undercover as [[The Mole]] to help arrange an ambush for Kick-Ass, Hit Girl and Big Daddy, Red Mist has already proven himself to be a very despicable character. Johnny G hasn't done much except play the stereotypical mob boss so far, but we know he's supposed to be evil. Hit Girl tries to fight back and Johnny G orders his men to shoot her, an order which they gleefully oblige, sending her flying out a window. Red Mist then begins to rave about how awesome that was, both of them stop being mere villains and cross the line into [[Complete Monster]] territory.}}
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*** Let's [[Rule of Three|hat trick]] the Archie Sonicverse: Geoffery St. John. Grief-stricken by the death of his father, he learns of the trapped Ixis Naugus and starts conspiring in order to get revenge on those who lead to his father's death. When the rescued King Acorn asked St. John to recruit people for his Secret Service, he purposely recruited people with less-than-friendly reputations for the sole purpose of pinning the blame on them should his [[Batman Gambit]] fall apart and he be revealed. In short order, he double-crosses Sonic, gives Naugus one of the Chaos Emeralds, and helps initiate a coup that would indirectly lead to the destruction of the Freedom Fighters.
* Eric in ''A God Somewhere'' crosses the [[Moral Event Horizon]] for most when he rapes his sister-in-law and cripples his brother. But the narrator, his former best friend Sam, notes that throughout the series of ensuing mass murders, he was still ambivalent about Eric. He finally crosses the [[Moral Event Horizon]] in Sam's eyes when the military unit with whom Sam had been embedded as a reporter sneak up on the cave where the two of them are talking, and Eric slaughters them right in front of him.
* In ''Uncanny [[X-Force]]'', Archangel, corrupted by the "Death Seed" Apocalypse placed in him ''way'' back in the original run of ''[[X-Factor (comics)|X-Factor]]'', crosses when he {{spoiler|kills Autumn Rolfson, a frail, likely sexually-abused anorexic woman, and one of his own followers, for objecting to him raising her son, a [[I Love Nuclear Power|radiation-powered mutant]], to be a mass-murderer}}. This ''somehow'' ends up having more ''gravitas'' than when he depopulated an entire town two issues earlier.
* In ''[[Gotham City Sirens]]'' #20, {{spoiler|Harley Quinn}} crosses the line. During {{spoiler|her bid to kill the Joker in Arkham Asylum}} she murders an innocent guard via explosive in the face. Even worse, {{spoiler|she}} acknowledges that the guard is an innocent man, but {{spoiler|she is too full of rage to care, and the guard is too intelligent to be distracted by other means.}}
* Zsasz has always been a [[Complete Monster]], but what really made him do this was using kidnapped runaways and orphans for gladiator matches and dumping their bodies in the river. You know it's serious when the current [[Tyke Bomb|Robin]] is vomiting over what happened.
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