Saw/Headscratchers: Difference between revisions

* Why oh why did the executives have to push for ''Saw IV'', ''V'', and the inevitable ''VI''? ''Saw V'' was just awful and uninventive. Not to mention that Jigsaw winning as a twist has already gotten way too old.

** Duh! Because there are people who will pay to see these movies anyway! It doesn't have to be good. It just has to make money.

*** And ''Saw VI'' turned out pretty well all around. Whether this continues, well...it's Hollywood.

* I don't mean to sound dismissive of the entire series, but...doesn't Jigsaw realize just how hypocritical he is? Now, I know he's dying from inoperable brain cancer (which somehow was created through ''colon'' cancer...huh? What, did he ''literally'' have his head up his ass to contract it?), and his psychosis may not allow him to see it, and there ''is'' that deleted scene in the third movie where he realizes on his death bed that maybe he isn't the savior of humanity he thought he was, but...for someone who's trying to make people "live their life to their potential" and force them to realize how they're wasting it through their perceived vices (including ''social and personal stagnation''), he's surprisingly blind by those same vices developing in him via his own obsession with his "games". Considering he was already a skilled craftsman, and he learned several other skills during his run as a killer, he surely could've done ''something'' better with his life. Has there been a canonical point in his past story where he looked at his work, stepped back, and went "Wow, I have issues. Maybe this isn't such a good idea, after all..."?

** Minor point, but if a cancer has major access to a patient's bloodstream, it can spread practically anywhere with a little luck. Getting brain cancer as a secondary from an internal organ cancer isn't unheard of.

*** To go with this; Colon cancer is one of the cancers that sends secondaries to brains quite (relatively) commonly. Cancer doesn't have to spread by direct contact with the primary.

** ''You'' try analyzing a situation calmly when you're facing imminent death. (Sure, we would like to think that we wouldn't have the [[Idiot Ball]] glued to our hands when push comes to shove, but [[Reality Is Unrealistic]], after all.)

** A better question is why they think that cheesy performance by Adam would convince anyone.

** Fiction has led you astray. There is no "safe" part of the body to shoot someone in, and [[Improbable Aiming Skills|another problem, too]].

*** I know it's not all as easy as it sounds, but... still. At certain points they're at pretty close range. If they shot very low, one would think, they would have a large chance of missing him entirely, a decent-ish chance of hitting his foot, and a pretty small chance of killing him. Which would arguably be better than a 100% chance of him getting away. But of course, this could be completely wrong.

*** ''Saw V'' and ''VI'' have no relevant examples that I can think of.

 

** Actually, the movies do state he is rather wealthy. He even owns several abandoned buildings (which are presumably where the "games" take place). It's also not unlikely that Amanda and Hoffman help him financially.

*** Of course, him being wealthy undercuts his backstory, which was that he was denied insurance coverage for an experimental treatment. He certainly had enough wealth to have paid for the treatment in cash, all the more so since the treatment did not involve surgery, which is generally more expensive than pure drug treatments. (It was stated that his cancer could ''not'' be treated by surgery. )

*** That doesn't quite explain why {{spoiler|a man with a newfound appreciation for his family's well-being would associate with a serial killer. Likely ending up with a life sentence and risking the wrath of a pair of [[Ax Crazy]] associates doesn't exactly help his family.}}

* As for the other plotline of ''3D''... {{spoiler|Why did everyone believe Dagen when he had no evidence of being in a trap? And who designed the traps in this movie, Jigsaw or Hoffman? The last film suggested that William and friends were the last advance victims Jigsaw had prepared, but that's definitely his voice on the tapes, and the grudge against Dagen is his.}}

** Or, you know, John ''had'' written a letter for Amanda, but Hoffman switched it with his own.

*** Yeah, according to the ''Saw VI'' commentary, that is the official explanation. It would have been nice to see some indication of that in the movie itself though. It would have only taken up 10 seconds or less of screen time to show Hoffman pull a letter out of the desk and replace it with his own instead of just showing him putting his letter in the desk.