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** The fact that {{spoiler|Euphie is turned out [[Not Quite Dead]]}} in the ZEXIS Route, but {{spoiler|Kamina and Neil!Lockon stay dead}} ''does'' annoy some people. Though to be fair, {{spoiler|Euphie comes back alive}} has less (YMMV) negative impact to the overall plot (for both ''Saisei-hen'' and [[Code Geass]]) than {{spoiler|Kamina and Neil}}.
* [[Complete Monster]]: [[Expy|Totally-Not-Masaki]] Asakim Dowin, who displays his true depravity in Setsuko Ohara's route. The thing is that he comes off as a [[Draco in Leather Pants]] in Rand Travis' route, leading to a large [[Misaimed Fandom]] who follow him.
** And now that it has been confirmed that both Rand and Setsuko's routes are canon...he could be seen as both this trope and an [[Anti
** The [[Big Bad]] of ''Z'' fits perfectly here, if only for the sheer destruction and havoc he brought about [[For the Evulz]].
** Also [[Grendizer|King Vega]], [[Zambot 3|Gaizock]] and [[The Dragon|his dragon]] [[Zambot 3|Killer the Butcher]], [[Space Warrior Baldios|Zeo Gattler]], [[God Sigma|Gargan of the Elda]], [[Getter Robo|Emperor Burai]], [[Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam (Anime)|the Titans]], [[Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny (Anime)|Lord Djibril]], [[The Big O (Anime)|Alan Gabriel]] and [[Eureka Seven|Dewey Novak]].
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* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: When a rumor that Back Alley Space Boy wouldn't be Dai-Guard's theme was disproved, [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|the internet went nuts]]. And yes, it's probably one of the best instrumentals they have in ''Hakai-hen''.
** The arrangement of "[[Getter Robo|HEATS]]" and "[[Shin Mazinger|Kanjite Knight]]" deserve special mention as well.
** While Crowe's theme in Hakai-hen, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQzaLOZwnMI Close Game Life], is a little underwhelming, his [[Mid
** On the Villains' side, in Z1, we have Asakim Dowin's ''incredibly'' catchy [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O_1WNsvGZM Black Stranger].
** Likewise in Z2, there's [[Complete Monster|Aim Liard's strangely heroic sounding]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAl-MxsHFpk Unture Crystal]. As well as the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y2dL3LAstk various] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM0y7KpuauQ Ark]-[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNusv4Wu-cY&feature=related Saber] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcwW_hYlULY&feature=related themes], [[And Zoidberg|plus]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpNYYJfHhV0&feature=relmfu Marilyn's]. And then there's [[Big Bad|Uther's]], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCUeVmboXtk&feature=relmfu which may be one of the most awesome boss themes in SRW history.]
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** ''Hakai-hen'' is already being bashed for being too easy due to a skill that lets a unit move again if it gets a kill once. Take a minute to imagine that combined with MAP weapons or the Solar Aquarion. [[Obvious Rule Patch|Apparently this will only work once per turn]], and with good reason.
*** ''Saisei-hen'' brings back SP Recovery, and a new skill SP Get, which allow the pilot to recover 10SP each time it shoots down an enemy. And both of them stack. Do the math.
** As far as ''Hakai-hen'' units go, [[Armored Trooper VOTOMS|Chirico Cuvie and his Scopedog]], when given such things as the "Ignore Size Modifier" pilot skill, will dodge almost everything and rarely fail to hit a critical. Chirico's starting skills include a max level Prevail and "????" (presumably "{{spoiler|Abnormal Survivor}}", providing [[Up to Eleven|an even larger Prevail bonus]]) which makes him the god of [[One
{{quote| "His special skill coupled with his Potential 9 basically means that if Chirico is in the red, everything is dead. He simply goes apeshit viking berserker super saiyan crazy at that point and even [[Demonic Spiders|DAMON bosses]] will find it impossible to land a hit."}}
** While Chirico is a little overrated, the true [[Game Breaker|Game Breakers]] of ''Hakai-hen'' are Dai-Guard and Gurren Lagann, the latter for its high defense and damage output, the former for Akagi's "Salaryman" pilot skill that grants him ludicrous amounts of Pilot Points. If you use Dai-Guard and get enough kills with it, Akagi can easily outclass every other pilot in the game. Dai-Guard's secondary pilots have healing Spirit Commands too, which help cancel out it's [[Glass Cannon]] status; not to mention it can resupply by itself AND if Akagi becomes Ace he'll have the cheapest Soul in your team (while still being a super). In Gurren Lagann's case, even {{spoiler|after you lose [[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann|Kamina]]}}, you've likely stored up enough Pilot Points to give [[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann|Simon]] continuous movement and "E Save" (cost to perform EN-based attacks are reduced). And this is before his Ace Bonus grants him 150 Will at the beginning of each sortie. Then there's the [[Getter Robo|Shin Getter Robo]] in the late-game scenarios, where achieving [[Getter Robo|Ryouma Nagare's]] Ace Bonus grants him additional damage at 150 Will and makes him capable of dealing the highest raw damage numbers in the game.
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** The DAMON's increasingly become this.
* [[Player Punch]]: {{spoiler|1=[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFiiuEPnG1Y Esther becomes a Dimensional Beast] in ''Saisei-hen''. She gets better, though.}}
* [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]], alongside [[
** Same with Godmars, which was a scrappy unit in Destiny due to the same bug and if it was destroyed, it was an instant game over. Although the same "game over" situation is in ''Hakai-hen'', Godmars is rendered as an ass-kicking tool of destruction that's nearly unstoppable. One fan on the Gamefaqs board described it as "two trucks duct-taped together with an atomic bomb"...[[Earthshattering Kaboom|which is an oddly accurate description of Godmars itself]]. It also helps that after the Godmars finale, the bomb is disposed of safely and there's now no game-ruining risk involved with using it.
** [[Getter Robo|Getter-3]] in ''Hakai-hen'' is no longer a situational unit(at best): it's actually a pretty good unit.
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** Just about any stage in Z 2 Hakai-Hen with [[Demonic Spiders|Dimensional Monsters]] is a pain in the ass. Especially Stage 50. Artificial DAMON's presences anywhere in ''Saisei-hen'' isn't any better either.
** Stage 35 of ''Saisei-hen'' starts off with all your characters getting [[Mind Rape|their heads messed with]], starting them off at 70 Will (and CANNOT use any Seishins) while hordes of Artificial DAMON close in, dealing massive damage to your units while taking paltry amounts in return.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: ''Hakai-hen'' and ''Saisei-hen'' being on a handheld has attracted a large number of complaints, as well as the removal of the Tri-Battle System. A combination of these two things has also limited the returning series to their key cast members and units only.
** In addition to the above, the fact that [[What Could Have Been|Z2 was planned to be a Playstation 2 game]] had some fans upset, as the PSP is seen as a downgrade in terms of graphic capabilities.
** They also replaced [[Eureka Seven]]'s TV series with the not-so-well received movie in ''Hakai-hen'', which has fans crying [[Ruined FOREVER]] now that the Nirvash is no longer broken, and the film version was considered by many as garbage.
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