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== Seasons 1-3 (Pre-Revival) ==

* fluffything: To prove not everything pre-revival was a classic, we have the Season 1 episode ''Brian: Portrait of A Dog'', which shows the dog's [[Black Hole Sue]] tendencies went as far back as the first season. Why? Well, at first, the episode starts out great with Brian feeling Peter doesn't respect him and Peter also feeling Brian doesn't appreciate him causing the former to run away. But, then it goes completely downhill after Brian runs away and we are subjected to many many parallels to the 1960s "Civil Rights" movements. No, just, no. It's a bad comparison for many reasons. First, equating a dog's (albeit a human-level intelligent one) problems with "leash laws" to the "Jim Crow" laws is just insulting on so many levels I don't know where to begin. Second, the indignities that minorities had to endure were far worse than Brian not being allowed to drink at a fountain or having to wear a leash for his own protection. And, finally, the parallel just doesn't work because most dogs in the series are realistic animal-minded dogs (About the only dogs in [[Family Guy]] that are of human level intelligence are Brian, New Brian (Deceased), Jasper, and the Griffin's old dog before they got Brian (I can't remember his name)). This isn't Brian asking for equal rights for his species. This is Brian complaining about not being treated "special" because he's a talking dog.

* [[User:The Irish Insomniac]]: I don't know if I'll be courting controversy by saying this, but I really and truly did not care for Season Two's(Or whatever season it was, due to network shuffling)"Let's Go To The Hop". The reason why, is well, rather simple, I thought it was an extremely boring episode, that somehow managed to irritate me at the same time. That cringe-inducing song in the middle, the unfunny cutaways(Keep in mind the first three seasons had the highest standard of humor and writing, in my opinion)and how whiny Meg was throughout. Peter's neglect didn't help much either, nor that damn Connie character. I can see why the writing staff don't like writing for Meg, because that episode was inoffensive to the point of well, being offensive, and when you're writing for "Family Guy", that should be your number one priority:make us laugh and make us give a damn. Seth once said "Fore Father" was the weakest episode of the first three seasons, but I'm inclined to disagree.

 

== Season 4 ==

* [[Tropers/Man Called True|Man Called True]]: The very first thing the show did on returning - having Peter list off every canceled Fox show since ''Family Guy'' went off the air. The sheer arrogance of the moment is staggering. It's Seth waving his dick around and yelling, "Suck it, FOX! I'm the only chance you have!" And it's also illogical - what, they all got canceled because they're not Family Guy? The scene might have worked if they listed every show that was in Family Guy's time slot, but listing every canceled Fox show takes it to the point of masturbation.

* [[Tropers/Sceptre|Sceptre]]: "Patriot Games" -- the home of the infamous "Where's my money?" and "Shipoopi" scenes. The former scene was just unnecessary violence and is uncomfortable to watch. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the latter scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to play "Shipoopi" again.

** [[Tropers/dementia 13|dementia 13]]: Don't have a problem with something being uncomfortable to watch, but musical numbers are usually the DEW line for a show having [[Jump the Shark|jumped the shark]]. Mostly averted in ''Family Guy'''s case, as they're there due to MacFarlane's fanhood, but "Shipoopi" was some of the most [[Overly Long Gag|overlong, unfunny, obnoxious filler]] I've seen, and it was compounded by [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|giving the London Sillynannies a musical number of their own]]. Its only funny moment was showing John Madden dancing along in the broadcast booth. IIRC, that episode was tied in with FOX's Super Bowl broadcast that particular season. Talk about putting your worst foot forward.

** [[Tropers/Video Game Crack|Video Game Crack]]: In the episode with the infamous Shipoopi scene (while being pretty horrendous, is not the DMOS), Lois tells Peter that, if he got handicapped, she would just drop him. [[Sarcasm Mode|Y'know, because that's what love is all about!]]

*** Astfgl: And no-one's mentioned the (thankfully) deleted scene that shows that Jasper's 'boyfriend' [[Unfortunate Implications|'''has no idea that he's getting married''']]?

* [[Tropers/The Dog Sage|The Dog Sage]]: From [[Stewie Griffin The Untold Story]], which would become a three-parter in season 4: The cut-away gag in which we have Elmer Fudd repeatedly shoot [[Bugs Bunny]] and then snap his neck before dragging the bleeding carcass away. Seriously, that's the entire 'joke', Elmer Fudd violently and bloodily killing Bugs Bunny. Graphically murdering a beloved childhood icon isn't [[Black Comedy]], it's just sick.

* [[Tropers/darkrage 6|darkrage 6]]: Since someone already mentioned the infamous Brian And Stewie episode, I'll go with "Stewie Loves Lois" which I hated because it was just extremely unfunny and lazily written, the episode is essentially an [[Overly Long Gag|Overly Long Unfunny Gag]] stretched out to 22 minutes (with the exception of the lame subplot where Stewie actually begins to like Lois, how is that supposed to be funny or entertaining?) the gag being Peter mistaking a prostate exam for an attempted rape and complaining about how he was "raped" for almost the whole episode, it's not funny the first time and it gets even more annoying every other time, how anyone can possibly find that funny is beyond me.

** [[Tropers/Jurgan|Jurgan]]: What's more is that, when Peter first tells Lois "I was raped," her reaction is to laugh. If it was after he said that the prostate exam he had was the "rape", it'd be understandable, but this was before! Remember, men can never be raped!

* [[Tropers/The Pocket|The Pocket]]: The one where they go to Texas. Like that one guy above said, you can't mix preachiness with over-the-top parody, and this episode shows why perfectly: The people they meet there are deliberately exaggerated for comedic effect, yet then you have Brian taking it totally seriously, which makes it seem like the writers did too (even though, unless you're incredibly cynical, it's obvious that they aren't and cannot possibly be that stupid). It's also an example of why a character like Brian does not work on this show: He's essentially a real person ([[Author Avatar|namely the writer]]) living on [[Planet Eris]], and for the most part they're stuck making him ignore the sort of behavior someone like him shouldn't be tolerating. It's only when that behavior offends his political sensibilities, apparently, that he can't stand silently by. Of course, "Not All Dogs Go to Heaven" would end up taking this problem even further; I just lost patience sooner than most people apparently.

** The Nth Troper: That episode lost me for a while (I was briefly won back until "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven") but another reason I hate it was for wasting Gilbert Gottfried in a nothing cameo. Still not as bad a waste as the TNG cast, and as it's Gilbert YMMV.

** [[Tropers/Stevie Will Show You|Stevie Will Show You]]: The big problem I had with this episode was the entire setup to get them to Texas just so the show could make all the "Texans are backwards-ass jerkwad rednecks" jokes. Stewie throws up in church after ingesting too many crackers and too much wine -- which is a completely understandable reaction -- and just because the crackers and wine are part of Communion, he's immediately assumed to be possessed and sought after by the entire town of Quahog, as well as the authorities, for an exorcism. First: it makes religious people look like complete [[Jerkass|Jerkasses]] for wanting to deliver an exorcism to a child who threw up in church (I know, big shock, ''Family Guy'' hating on religion). Second: actual church-sanctioned exorcisms are few and far between, and even then, they're done by highly-trained members of the clergy (and only after the church has deemed an exorcism to be truly necessary), not some random priest and a bunch of pissed-off civilians. Third: the whole "the police are looking for a possessed child" bit makes no sense because, last I checked, the police aren't called on to arrest people just because they're accused of being possessed by the devil. Fourth: Even if the Griffins had to run from the entire population of Quahog, that's no reason to make everyone else on the Griffins' trip to Texas (including non-Quahog police officers) as dumb as the rest of Quahog. If the rest of the episode had been worth the intelligence-insulting setup, then maybe I could forgive the attack on religion and the general absurdity of the setup; too bad that, as the others have pointed out above me, the episode was nowhere near worth the setup.

** [[Tropers/danjorw 1|danjorw 1]] I believe this was the episode in which Stewie competed (in drag) in a beauty pagaent. Stewie makes a snarky joke about ending up like Jonbenet Ramsey. For those not privy, Jonbenet was a 6 year old beauty pageant contestant who was brutally murdered in her home on Christmas Day nearly sixteen years ago, whose murder still remains unsolved. That was utterly tasteless and disrespect to the victim and her family. What the hell are they thinking? I know it has been a while seen it happened that is no excuse. And it losing sane viewers because the writers making light of seriously tragic events worth making a few possible weirdos laugh at poorly thought out jokes.

* [[Tropers/N Troper|N Troper]]: The one scene that cemented Carter's status as a [[Jerkass]]: The scene on "No Chris Left Behind" where he [[Kick the Dog|went to a local orphanage, picked out a kid, filled out all the paperwork, and then didn't took him home. While taunting the orphan kid from inside the car packed with toys and a puppy. Just for fun]]. And to add insult to injury, he stated just before that scene that he does it every month. That's just cruel. Nothing else, just cruel. [[Lamarck Was Right|Any wonders on why Lois became such a]] [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing]] [[Lamarck Was Right|recently (Besides all the crap she has to put up with regarding Peter)?]]

* [[Tropers/Westing 1992|Westing 1992]]: I have only seen one episode of Family Guy in my life, and it was bad enough that I'm unlikely to watch any in the future. The episode in question was "Whistle While Your Wife Works". For starters, it opens with Peter blowing his fingers off with a firework, scattering them around the neighborhood in a sequence that was uncomfortable and unfunny. Due to his injuries, Peter has Lois become his secretary and wants to have sex with her in his office. Meanwhile, Brian is dating a hot, but incredibly dumb, girl, and wants to break up with her. Neither storyline is very funny, and neither has an adequate ending: Peter and Lois have sex, but she's still working as his secretary; Brian tries to break up with the girl, but winds up having sex with her instead. Sex is not a valid substitute for resolutions. But what stands out for me the worst is a manatee gag where Peter mentions having lots of hiding places for his porn. The resulting gag is about a minute showing Peter going into an elaborate underground vault, and, at the end, takes out a porn magazine; it's an overly-long setup to a joke to which we already know the punchline.

 

** [[Purr Elise]]: Agreed. Even Matt Groening (a friend of Seth and a fan of the show) was so disgusted by this it almost ended the friendship between the two of them.

** [[Acesoldier Zero]]: The worst part is that it honestly could have been a pretty funny visual gag if the writers had the sense to end it before Quagmire murders the entire Simpson family.

** [[Tropers/Inuyasha FE|Inuyasha FE]]: In "Padre de Familia", the scene where Peter gets a job as a nanny, crashes through the window, on top of two children, killing them. He gets up, vomits, shoves them under the bed, vomits again, cries, then jumps out the window to escape the scene of the crime. Who the hell thought something like this would be funny?!

* Kitschensyngk: How many of their writers were influenced by Monty Python? Influenced enough to include a scene where Brian's long-lost son subjects Meg to "the 178 hours of Monty Python that are neither funny nor memorable"? In the episode "The Former Life of Brian", which ironically references a Python film that is both funny AND memorable? As a Python fan, this so-called joke rubbed me so hard the wrong way that it took some skin off. I haven't watched the show since. Sorry, Seth. Come back when you've got a bunch of feature films and a cult following longer than your arm.

 

* theLibrarian: "Horton Hears Domestic Abuse In The Next Apartment, But Doesn't Call The Police". That's the [[Manatee Gag]] that cost the show what little respect it had from me. It was probably the most uncalled for, idiotic joke in the history of the show, because not only is it in really poor taste because it has a basis in reality, but the woman's screaming and there was a baby watching. No. Just... no.

* [[Tropers/Dragon Quest Z|Dragon Quest Z]]: The "Nazis would support McCain and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap people like Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.

* [[Tropers/Happy Man|Happy Man]]: "Family Gay". How the "being gay is not a choice, and we should accept them the way they are" intended aesop was warped into "gays are amoral assholes that find partners easily replaceable and care for nothing but sex, and we should accept them the way they are". Because that's exactly what Peter says with his actions after becoming gay: he ditches his wife and family for a random guy named Scott, leaving them ravaged. Let's not forget that, apparently, being gay makes you want to bang ten guys at once. This shows how bad it is to preach in a comedy show, you simply can't be serious and funny at the same time. Oh, and the frosting of the cake was Lois saying, "I can't change your orientation, and I'd be wrong for me to try", when Peter's orientation was changed by the doctors through artificial means.

** [[Tropers/Deuxhero|Deuxhero]]: Also, the "not a choice" bit gets combined with Peter having willingly chosen (with full knowledge it is what would happen) to have drugs that make him gay used on him.

*** [[Tropers/King Cr Inu Yasha|King Cr Inu Yasha]]: If that isn't enough to get your blood-boiling, here's the kicker: Apparently the sub-story, ''not'' the atheism/Christianity "debate", was the one to be advertised on commercials, meaning FOX and/or the writers of the show, intentionally or otherwise, lured viewers with a somewhat interesting story and switched it with a [[Straw Man]] argument on religion. As [[Confused Matthew]] once said, "Surprise! You're being preached at!"

** [[Tropers/Baroxio|Baroxio]]: The really worst part about it though, is that they could have given Brian an actual reason to be an atheist. But no, we get the Hubble Telescope and man in the clouds debunk. Seriously? That's the only reason to be an Atheist? This atheist troper thinks the episode is more insulting to Atheists than it is to Theists. The worst part though, was that even though they already threw canon out the window just to put this episode in, they all the sudden want to retain the fact that Brian is an atheist (and of "Jerome Is The New Black", itself a DMoS, the fact that Quagmire hates Brian irrationally).

** [[Tropers/iheartmountains|iheartmountains]]: Brian being shunned for his atheism was a bit funny as a [[Take That]] at religious intolerance (although the intent was probably to establish Brian as a [[Sympathetic Sue]]); as was Meg being portrayed as a typical zealous but misguided Christian teen (too bad the [[The Fundamentalist]] stereotype is clearly how ''[[Family Guy]]'''s writers view all Christians). Initially, the episode's overall premise seemed decent, but I lost hope right around the "Worse than Hitler!" bit. Gah, lame. The peak of the episode's awfulness, though, was when Brian tried to explain why Meg's stab at religion was misguided and atheism is more logical. Sweet baby Jebus, worst argument for atheism I've ever heard. A loving God would've created Meg beautiful, and that disproves His existence? Not only did Brian objectify Meg by not for a moment entertaining the thought that her character could be more important than and compensate for her ugliness, but how is it God's fault that Meg is fat? And blaming God for her genetics, too? Fuck, this Christian troper could've come up with a way better argument for atheism. Also, as Grimace noted, the subplot with Stewie meeting the cast from ''[[Star Trek the Next Generation (TV)|Star Trek the Next Generation]]'' was easily funnier than anything else in the episode. I especially liked Picard's lines. If only they'd scrapped the shitty main plot and stuck with that.

*** [[Tropers/Matt Fisher NL|Matt Fisher NL]]: I concur. I especially hate the "Worse than Hitler!" chyron. This has to be the worst "Family Guy" episode I have ever seen. I'm a liberal who doesn't go to church and I am literally offended by this. It is offensive to Christians, Atheists, all other religions, and Trekkies combined. At least South Park did better with the "Trapped in the Closet" Scientology episode. This episode sucks! I have actually credited Rowdy C's [http://blip.tv/RowdyReviewer/tv-trash-not-all-dogs-go-to-heaven-5506179 "TV Trash" review] for why I hate this. It really is what this would be like if Jack Chick was an atheist. I could rant about the other argued [[D Mo S]] instances, but this one is the absolute worse I've seen personally.

== Season 8 ==

 

*** [[The Captain]]: What made it worse for this troper was that the size of her breasts was the only physical difference other than her [[Long Hair Is Feminine|haircut]]. Her overall body type and facial structure were exactly the same. So even if a woman is otherwise pretty hot, if she has [[A Cup Angst|small breasts]] she can only be seen as physically repulsive and no one will ever want her. But a boob job will make her acceptable. Yeah. Thanks for that.

** [[Tropers/Jonn|Jonn]]: I hadn't watched FG for a while, until that episode came on, and I figured it'd be a lighthearted Stewie-Brian musical episode. Nonetheless, I said to myself that I'd see how long it was before the writer's views on religion and politics were shoehorned in. Four minutes. I haven't watched any of the new episodes since.

** [[Tropers/Paul Douglas|Paul Douglas]]: This Troper has a pretty high tolerance for ''Family Guy'''s particular brand of gutter humour, possibly because he shares roughly the same spoken sense of humour as ~Seth MacFarlane~ displays in his standup and live action appearances. However, even I had to perform a facepalm when this episode wasted an entire segment, and special animation... Only to make the punchline of the Disney Universe the tired, untrue joke about Walt Disney being an anti-semite (For those keeping score, Walt worked happily with numerous Jewish people and there is literally no actual evidence of anti-semitism in his history.) What makes this worse is they've made this joke before (In tandem with the myth about him being cryogenically frozen) and it wasn't funny the first time.

** Animeking1108: The skit where Brian and Stewie go to the universe where Japan won WWII. They have the family as [[Unfortunate Implications|racist characters]] that would make [[Star Wars|Jar Jar]] look politically correct. First, he tells Japanese!Meg to commit seppuku for being ugly, which she does, and then beats Lois for something stupid. This is why I'm convinced the writers hate Asians.

** [[The Good Samaritan]]. I am Jewish. I am almost certainly descended from Schindlerjuden (I've never researched it, but all things considered, it wouldn't be surprising). To see this episode was the equivalent of being punched in the face. Repeatedly. It's bad enough that they are playing one of the worst genocides in history for laughs (is there anything about that statement that seems all right to you?), but to have one of the characters emulate one of the worst monsters in history, and attempt to kill his wife just because she's Jewish, as a fucking joke?? It is an affront, an abomination, an insult of the worst kind. [[Seth Macfarlane]] should be ashamed of himself for even thinking this might be funny.

** [[Tropers/Generic Handle|Generic Handle]]: My problem with this episode is how fucking stupid Peter is being. Yes, I know Peter's stupid as hell but this is a new low, he goes gung-ho into being Jewish, then he goes into full on imitating a Nazi.

* [[Tropers/Kentucky Troper 1990|Kentucky Troper 1990]]: "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag". I. Hate. This. Episode. The second half anyway. I do find the Roadhouse gag slightly amusing (Don't judge me). So Brian starts dating a woman named Rita. A smart, nice, reasonably attractive woman. When the family finds out, they all take a massive [[Took a Level In Jerkass|level in jerkass]], especially Lois, because Rita is an older chick (50. Less than a decade older than Lois if I remember correctly), and eventually drive her out of the house crying because of it. Brian goes after her, and proposes to her. A little rushed if you ask me, but its Brian, annoying liberal mouthpiece, being a genuinely nice guy. But this being [[Family Guy]], something has to derail this. When he says she isn't an old lady, and I mean the very instant he says it, she calls him, asking about dinner...at 4:30 PM. From there, Rita starts acting like a stereotypical old lady, even though she didn't do this at all before. And Brian loses all character progress by fucking a bar skank, while she is laid up with a broken hip. Seriously, I hate this episode.

** Tropers/taylorkerekes: The DMOS for this troper in this episode has to be Peter beating up Lucy Van Pelt. I know Lucy is always a bitch for always pulling the football away from Charlie Brown, but, aside from the fact that Lucy is my favorite Peanuts character, she doesn't deserve such a harsh punishment from a grown-up who has to resolve certain situations with unnecessary violence, even when they have to sink to child abuse.

** Boredman: Not to mention that it's once again another "Disney hates Jews" joke. Not. Funny.

* [[Tropers/This Is Madness 91|This Is Madness 91]]: For a while I was struggling to decide whether to keep going with ''Family Guy'' or drop it. I decided to drop it when I saw the episode "Extra Large Medium". Why? The end of the episode was incredibly grim and not at all funny. A missing man has an armed bomb strapped to him, and Joe wants Peter to use his (non-existent) psychic abilities to locate him. Peter stalls for time, and even tries to get Joe to let him feel the missing man's daughters breasts. When the bomb goes off, Peter bluntly admits to not really being a medium. They expect us to laugh at Peter's arrogance and idiocy costing an innocent man his life, and nearly getting his daughter molested mere moments before that. Sorry, Seth, but I don't find that funny.

* [[Tropers/Pagannerd|Pagannerd]]: From the episode where Meg dates "A completely normal boy!", when Lois, who in the past has always tried to be a good mother who looks out for her children, undergoes the final step of her [[Jerkass]] [[Character Derailment]] by seducing her daughters' boyfriend, and then, when caught, claiming that he was raping her.

* [[Tropers/Guy In White|Guy In White]]: Forgot the name, but there was an episode where Peter gets sexually harassed by his boss, and Lois responds by saying women can't sexually harass men. This may just be a case of the writers making her ignorant on purpose, but it still gives the wrong message.

** [[User:Ultra Sonic 007]]: 'Terri Schiavo: The Musical'. Here's one of the lyrics: "Terri Schaivo is kind of alive-oh. What a lively little bugger ... Terri Schiavo is kind of alive-oh, the most expensive plant you'll ever see." Yes, because mocking a person who died slowly by dehydration is just hilarious.

* [[Tropers/Ipdf 3|Ipdf 3]]: The Brian and Stewie episode. You know the one. Brian gets locked in a vault with Stewie and what follows are the most unwatchable "humor scenes" in history. The only humor in that episode appears to be quite a few minutes of Stewie telling Brian to eat his poop and then Brian actual doing it. There were no laughs to be found in the entire first half of the episode. However, the serious scenes should have saved it, right? It should have, but it felt too much like [[Character Derailment]]. Brian has been occasionally unhappy but never showed signs of depression or suicidal thinking. And the last part, where Brian and Stewie admit they love each other after having spent the entire first half of the episode abusing each other, just felt forced. Bottom line: no humor and a very hollow emotional theme. Please ''[[Family Guy]]'', stick to what you do best: raunchy offensive humor, not mediocre poop jokes and soap opera dramatics.

** [[Tropers/Largo Quagmire|Largo Quagmire]]: As someone who knows the very real discrimination that most transsexuals still face by even the most enlightened societies, this episode was made all the more horrific to me when I realized the people who put their names on it. These are people who created the ridiculously-Aesoped "Family Gay", which created the most bizarre reasoning for supporting gay couples and the gay gene theory I've ever heard, yet their opinions on transsexuals amounts to what? "Don't ever have sex with one or [[Badass|Glenn Quagmire]] will beat your head in"? "Transsexuals are only worth mentioning to create fodder for jokes"? And, perhaps the worst assertion that the episode never gives any clear answer for, [[Unfortunate Implications|"gay people are all transgendered on the inside"?]] This episode's complete idiocy transcends political bounds - it's downright cruel, thoroughly wrong about transsexuals and their motives, and a hypocritical slide away from the liberal ideals that other FG episodes were content with shoving down our throats.

** 45xxx: "Quagmire's Dad". I cannot, for the life of me, pinpoint one moment in this episode that was the worst of that piece of shit. The unfunny way it talked about sex change, the fact that Peter and Lois find it funny that Brain slept with Quagmire's "mom", even the end where Quagmire beats up Brian within an inch of his life. All of it was horrid, tasteless, and made me entirely give up on the series, especially Quagmire.

** Vir: This Troper has a deep loathing of Brian in this episode, namely from him nonchalantly raiding that family's house for food and promptly killing the father and leaving his wife and child to rot. And the ending, where he convinces everyone they only need one gift. Assuming they literally get only ONE from any person it eliminates the "giving" part of the holiday and leaves behind the ugly "receiving" part. This Troper now wants a real life [[Dartboard of Hate]] of Brian.

** [[Tropers/The Real CJ|The Real CJ]]: Okay, we can all agree that Quagmire chewing out Brian that one time was pretty damn [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|cool]], if not very subtle, but did we really need to see a repeat performance of that crap in ''Road to the North Pole''? We get it, Quagmire hates Brian. But watching him shit on an obviously repentant person who made an honest mistake was just painful and stupid.

*** [[Do Make Say Think]]: This troper stopped watching "Family Guy" some time ago, but to be honest, I'm not a big fan of Mother Teresa (due to her refusal to medicate her patients, allow secular knowledge to reach her patients and fellow nuns, and her habit of [[Kick the Dog|punishing her patients for doing things she didn't like]]), so this didn't really bother me. That being said, I hated this episode; like the above troper said, Brian is one of the worst things to happen to atheists in a long time, and the writers are so desperate to make him likable again that it's painful.

**** @/Belfagor: Replace Stalin with [[Ayn Rand]] in Looney Luver's statement and you can count me in as well. While still thinking that ''Road To The North Pole'' is the worst overall episode, I must say this episode contains the biggest singular [[D Mo S]] ever in the end, which makes every attempt to save the episode vane, along with turning the doctor into a big [[Jerkass]] after portraying him as sympathetic and professional during the episode.

* [[Tropers/Bored Me|Bored Me]]: You know... as a rule, if a comedy doesn't make you laugh, it should at least bring a smile to your face, and maybe alleviate your bad mood. Anymore? This show actually takes my good moods and makes them bad. [[Trading Places]] was just horrible. A "Carter smashing things" side-joke which had several directions that it could have gone in and been hilarious turned into another drawn-out non-joke, yet another member of the Griffin family [[Took a Level In Jerkass]], and overly real reactions to cartoonish gags were liberally applied, while somehow miraculously avoiding any thread of logic in the main plot (the Griffins should be happy; after the lawsuit they have on their hands against Pawtucket Brewery, no one will have to be the breadwinner anymore). Not even getting into the police sketch cutaway. It's time for someone to be responsible with this mess. And by the by? That buck does stop with Seth [[Mac Farlane]]. While I am glad to see that a lot of the venom is starting to be deflected from Seth to the writers, let's not go overboard with it: Remember, Seth could have vetoed any of the more offensive/unfunny jokes of the writers at any time.

* [[Tropers/Lightning Storm 93|Lightning Storm 93]]: A relatively mild one when you compare it to the rest of the entries on this page, but I was sickened by the ending of "Tiegs for Two". The basic premise is that Brian joins Quagmires class on picking up women in the hopes it'll help him get with a girl he likes. It doesn't. Blaming Quagmire, he STEALS the woman of Glenn's dreams, Cheryl Tiegs. In revenge, Quagmire steals Jillian from Brian. Long story short, they end up with neither, and they seem to bury the hatchet. As Brian realizes that he needs a ride home, he asks Quagmire for one, who smiles, and then drives off without Brian. This I was expecting, but Quagmire reverses full speed into Brian and then drives off. I was just sickened at the sight of it.

* Tropers/Nekogal: Maybe not as bad as some other instances on this page, but Foreign Affairs, just well and truely sucked. I laughed two times the entire episode, and they were the same joke both times ("This is how my classroom shall run!"). Other than that we had unfunny nationality jokes, unfunny jokes compairing crippled people to animals, Lois trying to take the moral highground over Bonnie and, once again, proving herself a hypocrite (What's that? It's bad to cheat on your husband? Well thanks for your input, Miss tries-to-sleep-with-your-daughters-boyfriend). And one joke which was just awful...a joke which took [[Overly Long Gag]] to new levels of bad... a joke I can only describe one way. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4jnaznUoQ Ladies and Gentlemen, the new Conway Twitty gag.]

** mpd011 : Agreed. Never did I imagine the writers would be lazy enough to insert the whole damn "Dancing in the Street" music video just to tell us that it's gay. And a flash-quality video on top of that. That's not how you tell a joke, that's just an excuse for getting my mom to watch your show.

** [[Tropers/O Zone|O Zone]]: Besides the pointless "Dancing in the Street" music video, which killed time that could have been used for funnier jokes, I'd like to also add that "Muppet-Style Sightseeing" scene. YMMV on this but really they couldn't have animated a short little montage so they had to use puppets for it instead? Even if it was part of the joke, I can't help but wonder...to be honest the whole plot itself is kind of off putting. Going to Paris so you can have a affair? Couldn't they think of a better reason to go and then somehow work in the affair?

** [[Tropers/terlwyth|terlwyth]]: I enjoyed the parody of [[Return of the Jedi]] except for two things. The first the death of Darth Vader which was for awhile faithful to the movie, but then they made Chris/Luke kill him by snapping his neck! Damnit that's just not funny especially considering [[Return of the Jedi]] was my favorite of the saga and that scene was moving originally. Also the cutaway gags sucked. Fantastic episode otherwise, really enjoyed the big [[Take That]] to [[Seth Macfarlane]] himself and how he ripped off [[The Simpsons]], although it was also a [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot|missed moment of awesome]] because time could've been used to mention Brian Scully, producer of this episode and writer of some [[Mike Scully]] era Simpsons episodes. [Scully era is generally considered [[Dork Age]]].

** [[Tropers/Endocrom|Endocrom]]: I tolerated the pot shots at the Ewoks and the general phoning-it-in of one of my favourite movies, but what broke the camel's back was the part where Peter/Han freaks out and forces those troopers to dig their own graves, all the while they are crying for their lives. Just too dark, it kills the mood.

* [[Cookie Man]]: For me, it would be the episode, ''"Lottery Fever"''. There's one particular scene in the bar where Peter asks for some beer and "has his favorite Russian waiter do it." What do we get: The freaking Trololo song. [[Seth Macfarlane]] not only ran out of jokes, but had to resort in using various overused and recent memes.

* [[Tropers/anoni|anoni]]: ''"Seahorse Seashell Party"'' turned out to be one! I was excited for it since Meg finally stands up to her family. She does, but guess what happens? [[Black Hole Sue|Brian]] convinces Meg that she's the only thing keeping the family together. That's right, apparently constantly abusing Meg is the only thing that keeps the Griffin family from killing each other! So what happens next? Meg apologizes and says she was just taking her problems out on everyone, she returns to being a chew toy, and nothing fucking changes! Meg, you had nothing to apologize for! Between that, and Brian's [[Nightmare Fuel|mushroom induced acid trips]], this became the worst of the 3 hurricane episodes aired!

** [[flyingdingo 0827]]: I agree as well, especially the ending of it. Why is it that anytime Brain tries to "help" Meg, her life seems to get worse because of it. Plus it ruined the one chance that Meg had to finally get some respect from her family and actually have her life improve beyond the sad, lonely existence of the resident punching bag but no, we can't have her too happy or else we lose a large percentage of our jokes. Of course the family going back to hating Meg and blaming her for their problems just by existing was of course just there to add insult to injury.

** Aquila89: Agreed. So, the family needs to abuse Meg to stay together? Then it shouldn't stay together! It's basically saying that a bunch of horrible, selfish bastards need to abuse a nice person, because otherwise, they abuse each other. So what? Screw them!

** [[Tropers/E Teezey|E Teezey]] This was initially my favorite episode, right up until the [[Downer Ending|end]]. It's also my only complaint, seeing how I forgive the show because I too have the same kind of humor it does. As for Brian, he was actually proud of Meg. Seeing how he's probably the second [[Butt Monkey]] in the family, it fit that he understood where she was coming from. I wanted her to basically just leave and find her own way without her family. Instead, they took a sea-change moment and nullified her epic [[Reason You Suck Speech]].

** [[j 03 b 0 b 0 fd 00 m]] : seriously, fuck this episode. I stopped watching Family Guy a long time ago (It was the no war before religion/no religion before Christianity one that got me originally), and was in the same room as my sister -- who still watches it -- when this episode was on. For once, I thought it would actually have an engaging plot and legitimate character development, but then it got Chuck Testa'd. I wasn't pleased. I have henceforth banned the viewing of Family Guy in my house.

** [[Tropers/Jude Deluca|Jude Deluca]]: So what that subplot all boiled down to was: Brian tries to have sex with yet another brainless hot woman, who runs a shoddy daycare center and regularly neglects the kids she's supposed to watch. Brian doesn't turn her in or alert anyone about what she's doing just because it would put a damper on any chance he has to get with her. Then he learns she has a boyfriend, so he calls the police. I am just really hoping he gets either a physical or verbal asskicking at some point. But in all honesty, you have to wonder how much leeway Seth [[Mac Farlene]] has at this point if he's willing to voice Brian in a story like this.

** [[Tropers/Azn Pinoy|Azn Pinoy]]: When I saw SSP, I thought, Brian can't get any worse, right? Well, I was somewhat wrong on the Thanksgiving episode (when dismissing a valid reason that Kevin deserting is wrong), and it was confirmed by the dolphin episode. I am not going to tell how horrible it was, I don't know what Gervais thought of this episode, or thought it sucked. But the subplot was worse. I knew what was going to happen, the old Brian sees a hot woman being the "babysitter," ignores the other people to try to have sex with her or see her naked, but later on, she is already taken. Same old, same old. What's worse, the fact that he said there was a special place for Hell for her, or the fact that there was no retribution or punishment for leaving the toddlers to fend for themselves. Or is it both, did he thought that saying a special place for Hell will make everything okay, even though as an atheist, "Hell doesn't exist?" Maybe the family should beat up Brian, or for irony, let Lois do it.

** [[Tropers/The Real Golden Gamer|The Real Golden Gamer]]: You're not alone. Not only does this episode have some extremely unfunny and unneccesary Bush bashing, but it also has some needlessly horrifying things in it, too. Why is it that they had to throw in Brian and Stewie trapped in barber poles? Was that supposed to be funny? Was there even a purpose to it? Probably not. I'm not saying that their current selves don't deserve a few days of that until they get their personalities from Season 1 back, but isn't Family Guy supposed to be funny? Well, it wasn't funny, and neither is this episode.

** [[Tropers/Shadow Sora 94|Shadow Sora 94]]: While it's pretty important to remember that Seth isn't on the writing team anymore, it makes it just as vile considering the fact it shows the people in charge of writing Family Guy are at the point they ''refuse to care about anything'' that won't give ''them'' a good a laugh- even casually joking about and making characters high-five eachother over a tragedy that almost killed Seth to begin with.

* [[Darth Josh]]: The Tea Party episode had Tom Tucker point out that Autism is "only an excuse for children to misbehave." Fuck you!

** [[Tropers/Marioandsonic|Marioandsonic]]: I've been made fun of enough because of my autism. I don't need TV shows to make fun of me too.

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