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These guys aren't allergic to [[Weaksauce Weakness|arbitrarily chosen household items]], nor [[Kryptonite Factor|strange items related to their origin story]]. ''Their'' weaknesses are, in fact, a direct result of their particular superpowers. For example, a character who can [[Playing With Fire|summon fireballs]] may find themselves powerless during a rainstorm (or a [[Shock and Awe]] hero might find themselves at risk of electrocuting ''themselves'' in the rain). Sometimes this can stem from a lack of [[Required Secondary Powers]], like a hero with [[Super Speed]] but not [[Super Reflexes]] finding themselves going [[Too Fast to Stop]].
 
Whatever the case, this type of superpower-induced weakness can function as a [[Drama Preserving Handicap]], or it can be [[Played for Laughs]]. It may also create [[Elemental Rock -Paper -Scissors]] between different heroes.
 
Not related to the [[Puff of Logic]]. May be an aversion of [[Required Secondary Powers]].
 
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== Anime and Manga ==
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* In ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' {{spoiler|Negi gets superspeed}} by turning into lightning. This is countered by Rakan pointing out that lightning gives off positive streamers at the destination meaning he knows where it's going to strike. And because his perception isn't speeded up as well he can't properly control himself.
* Keima, the main character of ''[[The World God Only Knows]]'' is a legendarily skilled player of Dating Sims in which one pursues girls. However, the opposite of this (girls pursuing ''him'') frequently leaves him at a loss.
* ''[[Nanoha Force|Magical Record Lyrical Nanoha FORCE]]'' introduces the Huckebein family, carriers of the [[Cursed With Awesome|Eclipse virus]] which grants them ridiculously powerfull [[Anti -Magic]] abilities [[Super Strength|among]] [[Healing Factor|other]] [[Swiss Army Weapon|things]]. by themselves they're pretty strong but for most or them the only reason they can fight against the obliterating magical powers of the main cast. Lampshaded mercilessly with the fight of [[Lady of War|Signum]] Vs. [[Smug Super|Cypha]] where the latter was receiving a sound beating until she activated her full [[Anti -Magic]] hax.
* In ''[[Mirai Nikki (Manga)|Mirai Nikki]]'', police detective Keigo Kurusu's future diary feeds him data from whatever investigation he's currently conducting. The solution? {{spoiler|Expose his [[Dirty Cop]] ways and get him kicked off the force, meaning he's not on any investigation, totally bricking his diary.}}
* Accelerator from ''[[To Aru Majutsu no Index]]'' is practically invincible due to his power--changing any vector he wants. He can easily deflect bullets, kill someone by [[Cruel and Unusual Death|reversing their bloodflow]], turn air into plasma bombs, et cetera. However, much like Firestorm in the Comics section below, he has to actually mentally perform all the relevant calculations to do any of this. {{spoiler|Brain damage}} all but cripples his abilities.
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* One of the main limitations on magic in the [[Dresden Files]] (or, rather, the mortal magic, as werewolves and faeries seem to sidestep the issue) is that you really have to know what you're doing for something to work. You can't transform someone into a frog without knowing an awful lot about the anatomy of frogs... and if you don't want to destroy someone's mind in the process you have to really know neurosciences. So, essentially, it's impossible. Also banned because it's so dangerous.
** Not sidestep so much as displace; weres get help (through bargain, artifact or rituals of communion) from something which ''does'' know all of that, and some nonhumans such as certain faeries fall into that category. Their minds and senses simply give them complete and accurate knowledge of all of the details of the relevant natural processes; for them extrapolating from a strand of DNA to a creature's adult form, natural environment and group dynamics may be as simple as pluralizing a word... and requires no greater intelligence than the latter feat would for a human. This actually carries its own [[Logical Weakness]] in that a being ''that'' aware of cause and effect is at base restricted by that awareness.
* The ''[[Mistborn]]'' series follows a very strong [[Magic aA Is Magic A]] system, so many powers can potentially be a double-edged sword. Someone burning tin (which gives [[Super Senses]]) can be incapacitated with loud noises or flashes of light, for example, and to be any good as a Coinshot (telekinetic control of metals), you'd better have a ''really'' good understanding of elementary physics- try and Push something bigger than you are and you'll be the one flying across the room instead.
 
== Live Action TV ==
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* Likewise, ''[[Mega Man X]]'' also uses this. Ice bosses like Chill Penguin, Frost Walrus, and Blizzard Wolfang can't stand fire (fire melts ice), while Fire bosses like Flame Mammoth, Magma Dragoon, and Burn Dinorex are weak to wind (wind blows out fire).
* Similar to the above examples, John Marston from ''[[Red Dead Redemption]]'' can't swim. It makes sense since the charater has spent most of his life in the [[Wild West]], where there isn't a whole lot of water. The above ground water sources we do see are mostly fast moving rivers or dirty and swampy. Also the game takes place in 1911 and most people couldn't swim back then.
* Much of ''[[Pokémon]]'''s [[Elemental Rock -Paper -Scissors]] falls into this. For instance, electrical attacks are stronger against Water- and Flying-types because they conduct electricity. Meanwhile, Ground-type Pokémon, being [[Exactly What It Says On the Tin|always grounded]], are immune.
** [[Fridge Logic|Even if they're part Flying-type...]]
* In ''[[Magicka]]'', while your characters are all [[Squishy Wizard|Squishy Wizards]] already, you can shock yourself if you use electricity while soiaked.
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