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** [[Squirrel Girl]] and the rest of the [[Great Lakes Avengers|Great Lakes Aveng-- uhm, X-Me-- uh, Champi-- ahem... Initiative]] have had their own mini-series and one-shots, but apart from their own series they have only been featured in a [[Deadpool]] tie-in for ''[[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]]'' and in ONE panel of the latest [[Crisis Crossover]]. Justified because the rest of the team are too weak, and Squirrel Girl is [[God Mode Sue|all too powerful]] to be allowed to affect the [[Status Quo Is God]].
** Similarly, [[The Awesome Slapstick|Slapstick's debut limited series]] has been completely ignored by Marvel canon -- most notably the events of issue #4, where an irradiated bum destroys major portions of New York, attracting the attention of [[The Avengers (Comic Book)|The Avengers]], the [[Fantastic Four (Comic Book)|Fantastic Four]], the [[New Warriors]], [[Ghost Rider]], [[Daredevil]], and other heroes. However, Slapstick himself was recruited into the New Warriors and appeared as a semi-regular character in ''Avengers: The Initiative''.
* The early [[Doctor Who Expanded Universe|comic stories]] of ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' had such high strange "''Who'' meets [[The Silver Age of Comic Books|Silver Age]]" moments such as "Dr. Who" teaming up with Santa Claus to save evil goblins from stealing Christmas. (That example just scratches the surface.) He also had two grandchildren named John and Gillian. Needless to say, we haven't heard much from John and Gillian lately, apart from infrequent appearances which make it clear they don't belong in the "real" [[Doctor Who Expanded Universe]].
* Marvel's first [[The Punisher]] series under the MAX banner takes place in its own continuity, through Castle still has his own ongoing set deeply in main continuity. He still can guest star in other characters' books and encounter superheroes and supervillains on his own, but such appearances in the MAX title were forbidden, with the exception of Nick Fury. The post [[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]] Handbook lampshades it a lot:
{{quote| "Although recently Castle has escalated his war on crime even further, with record-breaking body counts, he is paradoxically now rarely encountered in the field by any super hero save Daredevil.(...)It’s almost like he inhabits two worlds, one where heroes can capture him and one where they can’t, and he can slip from one to the other with ease." }}
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** The ''[[Transformers]]'' and the ''[[G.I. Joe]]'' series were specifically set in [[Alternate Continuity|Alternate Continuities]] which were similar but not quite the same as the regular Marvel Earth.
*** ''[[Transformers]]'' was initially set on the regular Marvel Earth, with [[Spider-Man (Comic Book)|Spider-Man]] guest-starring in the third issue, although it was quickly shifted to an alternate continuity as the series went from a four-issue limited series to an ongoing title. Likely in reference to how unlikely this was to stick, Nick Fury appeared in one panel and [[Lampshade Hanging|demanded not to have to fight the giant radioactive lizard again]]. Sadly, this has meant that IDW's reprint TPB series cannot reprint said issue (a text synopsis was used instead) nor can they reprint any Marvel UK stories involving [[Death's Head (Comic Book)|Deaths Head]] (another Marvel character that appeared in Transformers UK).
*** While [[Death's Head (Comic Book)|Deaths Head]] is unequivocally a Marvel character, replacing the character with newer versions (Death's Head II and Death's Head 3.0) does neatly avoid the original's back story involving him being taken from the ''Transformers'' universe to the [[Marvel Universe]] via the [[Doctor Who (TV)|TARDIS]]. This causes problems in reprints of the original stories, though the gaps are usually [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] as the result of "incomplete" archives. Death's Head may have had a reprieve, however -- IDW was able to reprint the [[Doctor Who Magazine (Magazine)|Doctor Who Magazine]] comic strip in which he crossed over.
*** ''GI Joe'' also crossed over with the main Marvel universe on a couple of occasions, but these were tiny cameo appearances. In one issue of GI Joe [[Spider Man|J. Jonah Jameson]] happened to ask from a newspaper seller if they carried the Daily Bugle, though the actual character was not referred to by name. One issue of Spider-Man featured soldiers in a couple of panels who bore a striking resemblance to the Joes, though again, names were not mentioned.
*** Of course, since Circuit Breaker's motivation is that she ''hates Transformers,'' Marvel has no use whatsoever for her, unlike [[Bounty Hunter]] (uh, I mean [[Insistent Terminology|freelance peacekeeping agent]], [[Verbal Tic|yes]]?) [[Death's Head (Comic Book)|Deaths Head]]. It seems pretty unlikely that we'll ever see her again ''anywhere'' at this point.
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* [[Lauren Faust]] ran into this problem during the creation of ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]''. Turns out Hasbro lost the rights to nearly all of the 1980's character names (save for Applejack and Spike), so most of the main cast of the current cartoon ended up being [[Expy|expies]] of the originals with the G3 ponies' names.
* Don't expect to see [[Tarzan (Disney)|Tarzan]] ever again in any ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' game past [[Kingdom Hearts (Video Game)|the first]], even in the form of flashbacks or recaps, as Disney is unable to secure the ''[[Tarzan]]'' rights from the [[Edgar Rice Burroughs]] estate.
* Avoiding this is part of the reason that the Daleks have at least one obligatory appearance in ''Doctor Who'' in any given season, though in series 6, they managed to get away with a last-minute cameo appearance in "[[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S32 E13 The Wedding of River Song|The Wedding of River Song]]". In the license agreement with the estate of Terry Nation, the Daleks have to make regular appearances of some sort on the show (and Nation's estate has to be given final approval on any Dalek story) or the estate can exercise a clause allowing them to revoke all rights to the Daleks and shop the creatures around independent of ''Doctor Who''.
 
 
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** Plus, it was actually the animated series that first gave Kirk's middle name as Tiberius, nearly two decades before Roddenberry entered it into "official" canon in the sixth film.
** Elements from "Yesteryear" ended up being used in the flashback sequences in the [[Star Trek (Film)|reboot Star Trek film]]. The scene with Spock being bulled by his classmates for instance has dialogue that is almost taken word for word from a similar exchange in the original episode.
* This was the point behind the epic 1967 ''Doctor Who'' serial ''[[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S4 E9 The Evil of the Daleks|The Evil of the Daleks]]''. The serial was supposed to depict the true and genuine final end of the Daleks. It was going to stick -- because Terry Nation, the creator of the Daleks wanted to sell a Dalek show in America. The pilot fell through, and [[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S9 E1 Day of the Daleks|by 1972]], the Daleks were back from their long exile from continuity.
* While there's a lot of series that the regular ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'' series can't use for many reasons, there's two series that Banpresto/Namco-Bandai can't use by any means: ''[[Giant Robo]]'' (Due of the death of of his creator) and any series created by Ouji Hiroi, even series that belongs to Bandai-Namco and it's subsidiary, Sunrise like ''Granzort'', ''Wataru'', etc. (Hiroi despises SRW and swore to never allow Banpresto to include ''[[Sakura Wars]]'' in a SRW game. On the further subject of ''Sakura Wars'', there's the time period the series take place in and the fact many characters (especially Kouran and Iris) hate waging wars against human beings)
** This has not stopped ''[[Project X Zone]]'' from having both ''Sakura Wars'' and ''Super Robot Wars'' characters.
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* [[George Lucas]] has placed an [[Executive Veto]] on new Wookiee or Hutt Jedi in the ''[[Star Wars]]'' [[Expanded Universe]]. Lowbacca, an existing Wookiee Jedi, was effectively [[Put On a Bus]] because of this, and Obsidian had to scrap the plans for making Hanharr a Dark Jedi in ''[[Knights of the Old Republic]] II''.
** It's come to light that there is an extensive internal memo listing all the various species of aliens that are "banned" from Jedi-hood: Gamorreans (pig guards), Sand People (excepting Tahiri and A'Sharad Hett owing to their [[Raised By Natives|origins]]), Ewoks, Vulptereens and other as-yet unrevealed races. The principle reasoning appears to be that these species lack the "mental capacity" to become Jedi. Take that as you may.
* The contract [[Big Finish]] have with the BBC stipulated that all elements of the new ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' series cannot be used in their [[Big Finish Doctor Who|Doctor Who audio dramas]]. That didn't stop them from throwing in the occasional implied [[Continuity Nod]] and [[Shout -Out]]. For example, the framing story for the [[A Day in The Limelight|Companion Chronicle]] ''The Catalyst'' apparently takes place after the Last Great Time War from the new series, which, for legal reasons, they don't explicitly mention. And a [[Shout -Out]] to the "What the Shakespeare!" line from the series 3 episode "The Shakespeare Code" appeared in ''The Kingmaker''.<ref> Along with, ''possibly'' a background appearance by the Ninth Doctor, or just someone described as a "big eared northern chap". Nice and vague.</ref>
* Initially, the writers of ''[[Smallville]]'' wanted to do a similar series about [[Batman|Bruce Wayne]] rather than Clark Kent. They got vetoed because [[The Dark Knight Saga|another Batman movie was in the works]]. This has also prevented them from doing a storyline where Bruce Wayne comes to Metropolis, leading to the recurring 3rd season character Adam Knight (name being a play on [[Batman (TV)|Adam West]] and the Dark Knight nickname) who was a [[Captain Ersatz]] of Batman before he was turned evil and [[Green Arrow]]/Oliver Queen (originally created in [[The Golden Age of Comic Books]] as Batman <small>[[Recycled in Space|WITH ARROWS INSTEAD OF BATS!]]</small>) becoming a recurring character in seasons 6 and 7 and gaining main character status in season 8. As with ''JLU'', other minor DCU characters have gotten the ''Smallville'' treatment and thus have been better highlighted. Interestingly, there's a reference to Oliver Queen as early as the very first episode, implying that they'd seen this coming from the start.
** [[Wonder Woman]] was also not allowed to appear on Smallville, leading to nearly four seasons where all non-original Superheroes on Smallville were men. Then [[Black Canary]] came on board. The final season featured a scene where Chloe Sullivan implied that she had met both Bruce Wayne and Wonder Woman during her globe-trotting adventures, with the implication that they would end up meeting Clark sometime after the show's final episode.
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* The ''[[Pokémon (Anime)|Pokémon]]'' anime has two examples, one involving a ''move''.
** The Porygon line was never featured (and the evolutions not shown ''at all'', despite the show's [[Merchandise-Driven|nature]]) after the first form's "[[The Scapegoat|involvement]]" in an incident involving [[Epileptic Flashing Lights]]. Qualifies as a combination of Legal and Corporate, as the episode containing the incident in question is under an actual legal ban.
** The move in question is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Earthquake Earthquake], never used after the [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Chuetsu_earthquake:2004 Chuetsu earthquake|2004 Japan Earthquake]] (a [[Filler]] episode was also never aired due to this). A sister move, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Magnitude_(move) Magnitude], was used only once in Johto's Tournament Arc, predating this incident.
** It must be noted that these edicts only apply to [[Alternate Continuity|the Anime]]. For example, Green in ''[[Pokémon Special (Manga)|Pokémon Special]]'' has a [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blue%27s_Porygon2 Porygon2] on his main team.
* After ''[[Ghost Rider]]'' was abruptly canceled in 1998, Danny Ketch made a single appearance in ''Peter Parker, Spider-Man'', where the dangling plotlines from his own book were tied up in a very quick and unsatisfactory fashion, but leaving him still active within the [[Marvel Universe]]. His predecessor Johnny Blaze was soon brought back as Ghost Rider, but Danny was barely - if at all - mentioned, and for reasons unknown, never once appeared in any Marvel comic until literally a decade later.
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