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[[Giant Bomb]]'s Let's Play now has its own page, check it out [[Persona 4 Endurance Run|here]].

 

 

A Playstation Vita remake, titled ''Persona 4: The Golden'' [http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/08/31/persona_developments/ has been announced] and is to be released on June 14th in Japan, with the US release date set ambiguously for Fall 2012. The remake features a new character named Mary, who, unlike Persona 3 Portable's new female character, is confirmed to NOT be a [[Gender Flip]] AU of the hero. In addition, there are alternate costumes for characters, new enemies and areas to explore, updated Ultimate Personas for the cast, a new gameplay mechanic involving motorbikes both in the real world and in the Midnight Channel, [[Combination Attack|combination attacks]] between characters, and new events that take place during the time skipped in the original<ref>Depending on your choices in the original, the game will jump from December to March with no information on what happened in the skipped months.</ref>, such as a skiing trip in January. And on top of all of that, a completely redone opening animation by Studio Madhouse.

 

 

The late 2011 fanfare didn't stop there, Atlus revealed more two projects for the series: one is a [[Light Novel]] starring Naoto Shirogane as the protagonist called ''Persona X Detective: Naoto''. [http://bokasaurus.tumblr.com/post/14112076178/digifreaks-persona-x-detective-naoto-from The story of the novel] takes place 1 year after the events of the game when Naoto is a senior in high school. However, it will not take place in Inaba but in a different town and a different school altogether. The other is a [[Spin-Off]] manga starring Yosuke, entitled ''Persona 4: The Magician'' running independently on ''Persona Magazine''. In December, one more project was announced: a Japanese-only Persona 4 live stage production titled ''VisuaLive: Persona 4'', which ran from March 15 through March 20 of 2012.

 

 

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* [[Alice Allusion]]: The Persona Alice, {{spoiler|who Teddie crossdresses as for a beauty pageant}}.

* [[Aliens in Cardiff]]: More like {{spoiler|gods}} in Yasoinaba.

* [[All Myths Are True]]: A justified case of this trope: The world inside the TV is formed from the thoughts of all living humans, so it naturally follows that any myth that humanity had created would be true within that world.

* [[Amazing Technicolor Battlefield]]: The battle against {{spoiler|Ameno-Sagiri, God of Fog,}} initially looks like this, but upon closer inspection, the battle takes place in the skies above Inaba.

* [[Anticlimax Boss]]: {{spoiler|Adachi}} is surprisingly simple, considering his importance to the plot; honestly, he actually comes across as noticeably weaker than the [[That One Boss|rather brutal]] {{spoiler|Kunino-sagiri battle that preceded him.}} Justified in that {{spoiler|he's immediately followed by the much more dangerous Ameno-sagiri, but it's still a bit jarring.}}

* [[Anti-Grinding]]: The stronger you get, the less XP you get from fights.

* [[Arc Words]] / [[Catch Phrase]]:

* [[Epic Fail]]: Human Teddie coming in and getting all the girls as his dates during the shrine festival, leaving the boys all alone, is appropriately described by Yosuke as this. Also a bit of an [[Ascended Meme]].

* [[Everybody Do the Endless Loop]]: Within a dozen or so seconds of the [[P 4 G]] opening.

{{quote| '''Kanji:''' Dammit, I was so pumped about finding the penguin today...<br />

'''Yosuke:''' Penguin?<br />

'''Kanji:''' The secret animal cracker! You were eating them and didn't know that!? }}

** Yosuke's follow up attack, where he'll spin with both weapons in hand.

** Teddie's follow up attack might also count.

** Averted with some of the Shadows - both mooks and regular bosses. Shadow Naoto particularly comes to mind with Brave Blade

* [[Evil Counterpart]]:

** Anyone who goes inside the world inside the TV will eventually face their Shadow, which is a personification of their darkest thoughts and fears. The Shadow will kill its source when enraged, either by the victim provoking it or when the fog appears in the real world. {{spoiler|The only exceptions are Nanako, who is too young to generate a Shadow, and the main character, who was given the power of Persona by Izanami directly and was already protected from the effects of the TV world.}}

** {{spoiler|In the True Ending, [[Big Bad|Adachi]] (after getting throughly trounced by the main characters) sends a letter to the protagonist and gives the team the clues they need to completely solve the mystery, along with some friendly encouragement).}}

* [[He Knows About Timed Hits]]: Lampshaded, it is implied that people think an [[NPC]] who mentions the square button is strange.

* [[Heroic Second Wind]]: The S-Link flashbacks sequence during the battle with {{spoiler|Izanami}}.

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* [[Hot for Student]]: Ms. Kashiwagi's self-confidence is so completely down the toilet that this actually comes up at one point.

* [[Hot Shounen Mom|Hot Shounen Stepmother]]: Eri Minami.

** Chie: [[First Girl Wins]] / [[Hot Amazon]]

** Yukiko: [[Yamato Nadeshiko]] / [[No Guy Wants an Amazon]]

** {{spoiler|Naoto}}: {{spoiler|[[Last Girl Wins]] & [[Beautiful All Along]]}}

* [[HP to One]]: The Death Arcana Chance does this to the party along with fully restoring the party's SP. The reversed card does the exact opposite. Either one teleports you out of the dungeon and resets the floors.

* [[Hyperactive Metabolism]]: Played straight, but with minimal effectiveness: food items do restore HP, but the restoration is so little (i.e. 25 HP from a Steak Croquette) that you're better off using medicinal items for that purpose.

** Played straight with the rare Tater Longs item, which restores all of a character's HP. However, it still can't be eaten during combat.

* [[Improbable Age]]: Nanako is ''six years old''. Yes, the girl who's home alone more often than not, AND does all the laundry, AND does all the grocery shopping. [[Parental Abandonment]] really does wonders for one's independance.

* [[Improbable Weapon User]]: Most of the weapons in the game are fairly realistic: the Protagonist favors "two-handed weapons", which are usually swords (although early in the game can be slightly more esoteric things like [[Golf Clubbing|golf clubs]] or [[Batter Up|baseball bats]]); Yosuke [[Dual-Wielding|dual-wields]] [[Knife Nut|knives]]; Chie using [[Armed Legs|"shoes and shinguards"]] may seem odd at first but given that she's an accomplished martial artist it makes sense; Teddie uses [[Wolverine Claws|claws]] built into his suit; Naoto favors pistols. Yukiko and Kanji, however...

** Speaking of Kanji, his weapon of choice is a "[[Luckily, My Shield Will Protect Me|shield]]", or a large, wide, blunt weapon. This is already fairly unusual (using a shield as a weapon isn't totally unheard of, but using it as a ''primary'' weapon is), but early on... metal shields aren't available. This means that Kanji will use whatever large and flat objects he can lay hold of as a weapon... including ''folding chairs'' and ''desks at his school''. This gets particularly hilarious in light of the fact that, technically, the heroes are supposed to be using their school uniforms to conceal the weapons and armor that would otherwise get them arrested... so how is Kanji concealing a ''desk''?

** Honorable mention also goes out to Teddie's ''initial Persona''. [[wikipedia:Kintoki|Kintoki-douji]] is traditionally depicted as using a tomahawk. Wellllll... Teddie's Persona has one too, [[wikipedia:BGM-109 Tomahawk|but we don't mean the hand-held hatchet variety, either.]] Sadly, once upgraded the Persona simply uses the same claws Teddie himself does.

* [[It's Personal]]: Oh boy, ''where'' do we start? The best example is {{spoiler|Nanako's kidnapping}}.

** Yosuke makes a big deal about his beloved Saki-senpai and why she had to die whenever the murders come up.

* [[Jerkass]]:

** Morooka. King Moron ''indeed''.

** {{spoiler|Adachi. That is all.}}

** Maybe subverted with the Main Character himself. Sure, he has a variety of asshole phrases you can use in the social links, but saying them more often than not will discourage your S-linker from wanting to talk to you again, unless you do something nice, like hang out with them or invite them to lunch.

** Kanji.

** As is Shu. Initially, he seems like a proto-[[Insufferable Genius]], but after working with him, he soon shows a much more compassionate and trusting side.

** The Shadow Selves, especially Yukiko and Naoto. One teacher even asks the class if they know where the term "ham" originated from. (Pay attention when it comes up, too; it's on the exam.)

*** Except Shadow Teddie. This does not reduce his creepy factor in the slightest.

** The first non-voice acted line in the game (outside of battle) is Morooka shouting, "Be quiet, you idiots!"

* [[Left Hanging]]: [[Epileptic Trees]] aside, the Good and True endings to the game seem to do this ''quite deliberately'' for a couple plot points, which is what ''leads'' to so many shaking branches in the first place. {{spoiler|1=Most prominent by far is the fact that, very ''much'' unlike the resolution to ''[[Persona 3]]'' wherein the Dark Hour ceases after Nyx is beaten, even after Izanami has been defeated ''the TV portals still work''. Naoto even intends to continue investigating Ame-no-Sagiri and Izanami, and there's a little worry that someone might try to abuse the realm beyond the TVs again.}} Could these be [[Cash Cow Franchise|hooks for another sequel]]? Oh, perish the ''thought''...

* [[Let's Play]]:

** Watch in wonder at the [http://www.giantbomb.com/endurance-run-persona-4-part-01/17-219/ people of] [[Giant Bomb]] in [[Hello, Insert Name Here|Charlie Tunoku's]] journey to the truth (and the [[Epic Fail|various ways they manage to screw up]]).

** For those with a [[Nico Nico Douga|Nico Nico]] account, There's にきろちゃん's<ref>Nikiro-chan</ref> [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10247606 Let's Play] of ''Persona 4''. Obviously in Japanese, listening to a Japanese girl read through all the unvoiced dialogue in the game, together with great editing for running through fights, make this a fun one to watch.

* [[Let Us Never Speak of This Again]]: After the disastrous school camping trip comes up in a conversation, Kanji says something along the lines of "I thought we agreed never to talk about that."

** Yosuke, Yukiko, and Teddie only target and critical a single non-downed enemy, or kill it if low on health.

** Kanji and Naoto multi-target 1-3 enemies to critical hit.

* [[Limited Wardrobe]]: Subverted in town, where PCs wear a variety of seasonal clothing, but played straight in battle. The latter is [[Hand Wave|supposedly explained]] by the need to conceal their equipment under their school uniforms.

* [[Lonely Rich Kid]]: Yukiko was this until she became friends with Chie. Naoto also has elements of this, but gets better after joining the investigation squad, especially if you complete the Fortune social link. Ai has elements of it tied into her also being the [[Alpha Bitch]].

* [[Meganekko]]: The cast visits Gekkoukan High School, on Port Island, where they are greeted by Chihiro from ''Persona 3''. She's had two years in which to shed her [[Moe Moe|moe traits]] in exchange for [[Nerds Are Sexy|being almost as hot as Tina Fey]]. Also, technically all your female party members since they wear attractive glasses inside the TV.

** The [[Fighting Game]] spin-off/sequel ''the Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena'' gives you the option to put glasses on everyone.

* [[Metal Slime]]: Golden hands appear in every multi-level dungeon after Yukiko's. They'll attack you instead of running away or disappearing when cornered, and if you can kill them before they escape, they drop a lot of money and a key for the locked golden chests you'll sometimes find.

* [[Mirror Boss]]:

* [[My Name Is Inigo Montoya]]: {{spoiler|In the final battle, it looks like Izanami has delivered the final blow to the Protagonist and the investigation team with Thousand Curses. But just when all seems lost, the Protagonist gets an [[Eleventh-Hour Superpower]] through the [[Power of Friendship]], is revived, and disposes of the goddess with one attack, [[Combined Energy Attack|Myriad Truths]].}}

* [[My God, What Have I Done?]]: {{spoiler|Namatame}} does this after realizing that his efforts to "save" the victims actually put them in a mortal danger. On a smaller scale, Rise does this after {{spoiler|Naoto deliberately gets herself kidnapped by Namatame, in the hopes of proving that the killer is still out there. Rise is upset because the last thing Naoto said to the group before enacting this plan was "This is not a game for me either", answering Rise's earlier accusation that Naoto was only working the case for her own vain enjoyment.}}

* [[New Age Retro Hippie]]: {{spoiler|Kunino-sagiri}} wears a shirt with a heart and the peace sign on it, and is supported in the air by a gigantic peace sign wrapped around its head. Doesn't help that he looks a thousand bloody years old.

* [[New Game+]]: Allows you to carry over the Persona Compendium, your characteristics, and your money into a new game.

* [[Ominous Fog]]: When the fog comes, someone's going to show up dead, unless you intervene. {{spoiler|And even then, it's a crapshoot. Later becomes permanent, with your characters realizing it's the fog from the TV world.}}

* [[One-Hit Kill]]: Hama and Mudo series. Of course, they are capable of missing like many others in RPGs. However, if an enemy is ''weak'' to light or darkness, Hama and Mudo will almost always hit it.

* [[One Steve Limit]]: Averted with a character and a ''place'' -- Kanji Tatsumi and Tatsumi Port Island (the location of ''[[Persona 3]]'', which is visited during the game).

** In Japanese they're spelled with different characters, but their readings are the same, so they appear the same in the English version.

** The Junes department store is not particularly popular for running smaller stores out of business, and their theme seems to be brainwashing Nanako, but it's harmless.

* [[Relationship Upgrade]]: Unlike ''Persona 3'' you can choose to do this with any, [[Your Cheating Heart|or all]], [[Celibate Hero|or none]], of the potential [[Love Interests]]. Some require more work into making this than others.

* [[Retraux]]: Void Quest, in all its self-referential, Dragon Warrior I splendor. Repeatedly [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]], and Yosuke [[Breaking the Fourth Wall|breaks the fourth wall]] if you take him into the big boss fight.

* [[Ridiculously Cute Critter]]: [[Your Mileage May Vary|For some]], Teddie is the definition of this! Just READ the trope page, it's like it's describing him on purpose.

* [[Shielded Core Boss]]: Shadow Mitsuo of the "Void Quest" dungeon is surrounded by a shell of ... pixel blocks resembling a gigantic 8-bit sprite (yes, really). Rise informs you that you have to destroy his outer shell before you can attack him directly.

** Though once you destroy the shell, Shadow Mitsuo is knocked down, allowing you to issue an All-Out Attack.

** Rise ships Chie/Yosuke and Kanji/Naoto. And, of course, herself/Protagonist.

** The Protagonist himself is given the option to ship Kanji/Naoto.

** Works for the enemies too. All of your party members' evolved Personas gain an elemental immunity and lose an elemental weakness, except for Yukiko and Teddie, who only gain the immunity. Their particularity is that they're the only ones who learn the Dia (single healing) and Media (party healing) family of spells, revive spells and status removal spells. Which means that they're the only ones who can get the Downed status through elemental attacks, when later bosses tend to [[Artificial Brilliance|exploit weaknesses when they discover them.]]

* [[Shorttank]]: Chie definitely fits the archetype.

** After blatantly and repeatedly propositioning the player character, Sayoko offers to pour him a cup of [[Grand Theft Auto San Andreas|hot coffee.]]

* [[Show Within a Show]]: [[Persona 2|Phoenix Ranger Featherman R]] returns [[Persona 2|yet]] [[Persona 3|again]]! You will often find Nanako watching it downstairs --[[Continuity Nod|when else?]]-- on Sundays. Yuuta also becomes a fan during the Temperance social link.

** The song lyrics were always in English (except the ending theme), and barring speed are pronounced very well. Understanding it however...

* [[Suspiciously Specific Denial]]: {{spoiler|Adachi, when he figures out the Protagonist and his friends are behind the reappearances of those tossed into the TV. Comes with [[Ax Crazy]]-sounding voice.}}

* [[Taking the Bullet]]: Characters that you have a Social Link with will take any single-target attack that would kill you in your place once per battle. Most players actually recommend making sure everyone on your team has at least a Level 1 S-Link rank. Also, {{spoiler|1=During the final boss fight, as part of a story sequence, the boss will use an attack that has a one-hit KO. She will ''spam it at you'', but the first three times, your allies will take the attack for you.}}

{{quote| ''[http://hiimdaisy.livejournal.com/26044.html You became friends with Yosuke. Yosuke will now DIE FOR YOU.]''}}

* [[Troll]]: The Shadow Selves. Their whole game is to feed off their victim's denial by pissing them off.

* [[True Companions]]: It's a Persona game. ''Of course'' this is going to be a major theme.

* [[The Unfavorite]]: The basketball version of the Strength link covers Kou's belief that he is a case of this {{spoiler|as his parents adopted him thinking they couldn't have children, but they wound up having a daughter anyways.}}

* [[Unmoving Plaid]]: Can be seen briefly in the cut scene where everyone falls into the TV the first time.

* [[Updated Rerelease]]: ''Persona 4 The Golden'' for the Playstation Vita is this, but due to the Vita's superior hardware (compared to its predecessor), it will feature updated graphics and will retain the 3D models for the overworld (as opposed to the ''Persona 3'' remake). It will also add more dialogue to the game and adds a new female character (that will ''not'' be the a female protagoist, again unlike ''[[P 3 P]]'') called Mary. ''The Golden'' will also cover the events between December and March (if the player beats {{spoiler|Adachi}}, the game skips to the final day in March) and will add new anime cutscenes, similar to the anime.

* [[Uptown Girl]]: The protagonist (middle class) with Yukiko ([[Ojou]]) or Ai ([[Nouveau Riche]]) are possible pairings.

* [[Vomiting Cop]]: This is how Adachi is introduced (though you only [[Vomit Discretion Shot|hear it, not see it]]. {{spoiler|And you find out later it was probably an act, given that he was vomiting over his ''own handiwork''}}.)

* [[Wake Up Call Boss]]: Shadow Yukiko is a very early-game boss, and has a wicked habit of tripping players up. No weakness, and summons a very annoying minion who will heal the boss if it's not dizzied or killed off. The boss itself, once it's down to low health, [[Turns Red]] and begins to spam an attack-all fire spell that is quite painful, topping it off on the fact that one of your party members is weak to fire if she doesn't guard, and she can't be removed from the battle team (but has the element the minion is weak against).

* [[Warmup Boss]]: Shadow Yosuke. If you were paying attention during the tutorial and listen to what Teddie says, you'll do fine. If not, he'll probably kill you. Because you were dumb.

* [[Washtub Throw]]: when the male characters stumble upon the female characters in the hot springs, the latter continuously throw a ridiculously amount of wooden buckets at the former. [[Failure Is the Only Option|No amount of Courage the main character can have allows the boys to be able to "hold the line"]].

* [[Weapon of Choice]]: Although they don't state it outright like in 3, the heroes of ''[[Persona 4]]'' use weapons that reflect their personality. [[The Hero]] uses broadswords, Kung-Fu loving [[Action Girl]] Chie has leg greaves, [[Yamato Nadeshiko]] Yukiko uses [[Paper Fan of Doom|fans]], delinquent Kanji just hits monsters with a heavy blunt object, be it a shield or a school desk, Teddie the 'bear' has claws, and Naoto has a gun due to being a detective. Yosuke's dual knives are the only odd man out, but then again knowing him he might be [[Dual-Wielding]] just for [[Rule of Cool]].

** Actually, one gets the feeling that the characters just sort of grabbed whatever they thought they could use. It's also implied that no one in the party (possibly save for Naoto and the protagonist) has had any weapon/fighting training and are either self taught, or learning as they go along.

* [[Wham! Episode]]: The events on December 3rd basically cover this, although the rainy days after saving Rise are just as big, if not nearly as emotional.

* [[What the Hell, Hero?]]: You can call out most of the party (particularly Yosuke) for attempting to {{spoiler|kill Namatame}} in the paths for the Normal/True Endings.