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* [[Game Show|Game Shows]], in spades.
** The survey questions asked during ''[[
** A recent season of ''[[Ninja Warrior|American Ninja Warrior]]'' got a lot of flack from fans due to changing the format of the third round elimination from eliminating based on performance to a more typical reality TV-based elimination (complete with teams and voting), believing that it goes against all that ''Ninja Warrior'' is about. The idea of boot camp itself, however, is much better received.
** Fans pretty much touted this once Drew Carey succeeded Bob Barker on ''[[The Price Is Right]]''. As one person said, [[Nostalgia Filter|"Those hardcore fans won't be happy with anything unless they go back to the way it was 20-25 years ago."]] The same cry rang out as Season 37 (the first after Roger Dobkowitz was kicked out) progressed, which to be fair was justified.
** A lot of fans decided they hated ''[[Mock the Week]]'' when Frankie Boyle left. On the official Facebook page for the show, comments are still in the vein of "OMG WHERES FRANKIE IT SUX WITHOUT HIM".
** Some say this happened to ''[[Whose Line Is It Anyway?]]'' when it moved from British to American TV. Common reasons given include [[Replacement Scrappy|the changing of hosts from Clive Anderson to Drew Carey]], the appearance of more celebrity guests (especially Richard Simmons), and the fact that Colin and Ryan were in every single episode (and Wayne was in most of them as well) instead of taking more risks and shuffling the cast around more, as they did in the earlier British seasons.
* This happened to ''[[
** It happened all the time with the old series, too -- remember, this is a series that's had nine complete turnovers in the regular cast and over a dozen different [[Show Runner|showrunners]] with wildly varying approaches. Years before the new series debuted, there was a running joke on one of the online discussion groups that the series was [[Ruined FOREVER]] when they added the time-travelling alien to a perfectly good show about a policeman walking through the fog and hearing a strange noise.
** A decent number of fans are now complaining about all the changes happening for the coming 2010 season. New Doctor, new companion, new TARDIS exterior AND interior, new sonic screwdriver, new showrunners. Apparently, despite the show going through constant change practically every other season <s>since 2005</s> since ''1963'', all of this together is just too much, and the show is ruined.
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* ''[[Knight Rider]]'' fans have a bad habit of becoming homicidally enraged at any changes from the original source material in the various [[Revival]] attempts of the series, even such changes as would be necessary to compensate for the fact that (a) it's no longer 1982 and (b) the Pontiac Trans Am has been out of production for several years. A new revival premiered in February, 2008, and, months before, fans have already taken note of several dozen reasons it is sure to suck. Of course, it did eventually turn out to suck anyway, but that doesn't make it right.
* Similarly, the 2003 "re-imagining" of ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]'', generally considered excellent [[Adaptation Distillation]] and [[Darker and Edgier]] done ''right'', was met with a lot of backlash by fans of the 1978 original, and even by one cast member, Dirk Benedict, who [http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/dbenedict/2009/01/19/lt-starbuck-lost-in-castration/ wrote a rant] on how changing his [[Loveable Rogue]] character Starbuck into a woman (and thus making the character something other than [[Star Wars|Han Solo]]) had somehow destroyed the character and [[Ruined FOREVER|ruined the show forever]].
** Benedict has railed on-record numerous times about the "feminization of TV", and suggested once that if ''[[
* ''[[The Dresden Files]]'' made a lot of (author approved) changes when it made it to TV. Interestingly, it was the little changes that got lambasted the most. Harry Dresden no longer wore a trenchcoat (they didn't want him looking like an Angel ripoff) and didn't drive the same car (while it might look good in text a 6+ foot man cannot drive a compact. It just doesn't work).
** AND they changed his staff to a hockey stick to try and "hide" the fact that he's a wizard (kind of strange for someone who advertises in the yellow pages). At that point it's not a cosmetic change, it's a completely different character with the same name.
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*** Though there are claims that [[Race Lift]] for Murphy and Susan was entirely because the producers felt that each actress worked better as the other character.
** Unfortunately, this has also caused some bookfans to be prejudiced against the graphic novels, even though Jim Butcher wrote the script for one and was heavily consulted on the script for their adaptation of ''Storm Front''
* ''[[
** The fanbase currently has people who like or simply don't mind the new direction ''[[
** Speaking of Stargate, the ninth season of ''[[Stargate SG-1]]'' got a lot of flak at the beginning for even continuing on after the [[Big Bad|Goa'uld]] were defeated at the end of the previous season, and coming up with a new main villain -- not to mention O'Neill leaving the show and [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute|Mitchell]] joining as the new leader of SG-1. Carter being temporarily absent from the show for the first five episodes didn't help matters either. The changes were so extensive that the Powers That Be had actually considered changing the show's title to "Stargate Command" and treating season 9 as the ''first'' season of a new show -- it's possible that if they'd done that, the changes might have actually been better received.
* Anything from ''[[Super Sentai]]'' ported to ''[[Power Rangers]]'' that isn't 100% true to source is grounds for gasping and fist-shaking. Admittedly, some of it is worthy of decrying, but... getting in a tussle because the heroes don't say "Henshin"? Or that they don't have the same morphers? Check out ''[[Kamen Rider Dragon Knight]]'', and you'll have numerous people hating it because it's not Japanese.
** [[Hilarious in Hindsight|Amusingly enough]], ''Dragon Knight'' was [[Recursive Import|imported back to Japan]], and they loved it.
* Same vein as ''[[Kamen Rider]]'', ''[[Kamen Rider Hibiki]]'' was [[Ruined FOREVER]] in the eyes of execs due to the fact it had a FEMALE rider on TV (Femme was officially the first female rider, but Shuki was the first to appear on TV), something that is considered "taboo" with [[Kamen Rider]] (most females who had to transform had to rely on an anybody can use [[Transformation Trinket]] or is a rubber monster). Needless to say, the exec associated the failure of the later season of Hibiki with a female rider being one of them.
* ''[[Kamen Rider]]'' has a parody in the comedic net movies for the [[Milestone Celebration|40th anniversary movie]]. [[Kamen Rider (TV series)|Kamen Rider 1]] delivers a speech in which he says that the younger Riders who aren't "real" Kamen Riders because they aren't tragic cyborgs and none of them (save [[Kamen Rider Hibiki|Hibiki]]) has undergone [[Training From Hell]], unlike the classic Riders.
* Speaking of ''[[Power Rangers]]'', they just started to re-air [[Mighty Morphin Power Rangers|the first one]]. Of course, they changed it, [[Re Cut|adding cheesy comic book effects and such]] ala 1960s Batman.
* The ''[[Discworld]]'' TV adaptations. Many fans loved them, but in a classic example of [[Unpleasable Fanbase]], there were some criticisms that Teatime should have been more obviously insane ''and'' less obviously insane in the same discussion. But ''Hogfather'' got off lightly compared to ''Colour of Magic'', where, in addition to Rincewind being "too old", the creators committed the ultimate sin of getting rid of the aeroplane scene (a totally unnecessary sequence in which most of the comedy occurs inside Rincewind's head in any case). The fact that [[Terry Pratchett]] had approved these changes was claimed as evidence [[Death of the Author|he doesn't understand his own books]].
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** Cranked [[Up to Eleven]] with the further declines under Katie Couric.
* ''[[Star Trek]]'' with [[Ruined FOREVER|each new project.]]
** ''[[Star Trek:
** ''[[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]]'' is about staying in one place? Oh... it relied on its characters and a coherent story instead of the weekly [[Negative Space Wedgie]].
** ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'' ...admittedly, the premise of Voyager was well received. The complaints about the show are internal to its writing and not to the franchise as a whole.
** ''[[Star Trek: Enterprise]]'' got this in regards to [[Fanon]]. Among this was somehow believing Spock was the typical Vulcan personality despite him, his father Sarek and Tuvok of ''Voyager'' being about the only noble (and well acted) Vulcans in the franchise. Otherwise most other Vulcans encountered had all of the arrogance and nothing to back it up.
*** Some fans that were angry that it contradicted the "fact" that Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet. Since obviously no Vulcan joined Starfleet between the founding of the Federation to Spock, and the all-Vulcan ship crew from TOS must have all joined after Spock. Yes.
** And then there's the "remastered" Star Trek TOS. Better special effects (with extreme pains taken to make sure no actual ''events'' are altered) that sometimes fit the original script ''better than the original version'' (due to problems the original faced like "low budget" and "it being the 60s") are an unforgivable sin, apparently. Despite the fact that one can watch the original unedited versions ON the Blu-ray if one so desires.
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* When ''[[Degrassi the Next Generation]]'' changes seasons, they change the opening credits theme. No matter how they change the opening credits Fans decree its wrong. When for the most part the themes aren't that separated from one another (same words, different singers/melody). With the exception of two seasons that completely draw away from the standard opening set-up, they are mostly the same but each season starts with a fan outcry to begin World War III over it.
* When they replaced Linda Hamilton's character Catherine in the CBS-TV series ''Beauty and the Beast'', some fans didn't take lightly to that.
* The television adaptations of [[
* When [[The ABC]] chose to hire a new host for the popular gaming show ''[[Good Game]]'', it meant they had to farewell longtime host Jeremy "Junglist" Ray. Fans erupted with emphatic disdain, spamming the forum with hate for the new host, Stephanie "Hex" Bendixsen, and crying that they would '''never''' watch ''Good Game'' again, or until Junglist came back. They started a [http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=189532430599 Facebook page] (now renamed with its cause given up) and a Web site (formerly at savejunglist.com, but it's now been bought out by one of those spam search engine or domain parking sites). The cause was forgotten little more than a fortnight later. That doesn't stop the [[Fan Dumb]] whining about how bad the show has become during every week's feedback board on [http://www2b.abc.net.au/tmb/Client/Board.aspx?b=59 their forum].
* ''[[Human Target]]'' added two new main characters and changed the dynamic of the show in the second season. This is not universally loved. At all.
* So far, all signs point to the live-action adaptation of ''[[A Song of Ice and Fire]]'' as being an excellent [[Adaptation Distillation]]. But that hasn't stopped people complaining about how the deaths of two [[Red Shirt|Red Shirts]] in the prologue and first chapter were switched.
* ''[[Smallville]]'' was this to the [[Superman]] mythos. No matter what they did, it was inevitable that some faction of the notoriously [[Unpleasable Fanbase]] would be infuriated by the writers' interpretations of the Superman comics. Inevitably, fans would accuse the writers of "not being true to the source material"...never mind the fact that the ''comics themselves'' have changed continuities/canon drastically over and over again. In general, the Smallville writers seemed to be going for a sort of mixture of ideas from all eras/versions of the Superman mythos (Lex living in Smallville was from the Silver Age, the Fortress of Solitude design from the Chris Reeve films, Brainiac being from Krypton was borrowed from ''[[Superman:
* ''[[Heroes (TV series)|Heroes]]'' Season 3 was regarded as a pretty good season...except for the fact that they killed off two universally popular characters in Daphne and Elle. Season 4 looked like it would have an example of changing something for the better by bringing back previously killed character Charlie but proceeded to mess it up immensely
* ''[[
* Eli forbids ''[[Xena: Warrior Princess]]'' and Gabrielle to love each other, so they genocide the Gods, the Centaurs, the Amazons etc until Dahak and Ares are the only Powers in the Universe.
* ''[[Survivor (TV series)|Survivor]]'' has suffered a [[Broken Base|LOT]] of this at the hands of fans.
** First, there are certain fans who automatically dismiss ANY season that took place after season seven(the season before All Stars, which many of them said made the show [[Jump the Shark]]). This is due to the shift in editing on the producers part, where after season seven they started to focus more and more on the strategy of the players and "shocking" twists at the expense of everything else. According to these purists, everything from production values to the ''intro credits'' to just plain storytelling ability has gone down the toilet since then.
** In particular, the final three has been argued as not working the way it was intended to. Instead of making it harder for a dominant player to take another unlikable player to the finals and win the game easily, not only have TWO dominant players managed to drag along goats and win that way with a final three anyhow, giving the jury a third option on who to vote for has been said to give the jury the option of voting for players who could basically sit pretty and do nothing the entire game(as opposed to the moral dilemma usually faced by final two juries).
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