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== General Fanon Trivia: ==
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== Character Specific Fanon Trivia: ==
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[http://www.derpyhooves.com/index.php Derpyhooves.com], a fan news site, has a great [http://www.derpyhoovescentral.com/2011/10/origins-of-derpy-hooves.html article] on the origin and evolution of Derpy Hooves. Long story short, back when the pilot episode first aired and the fandom got started on [[Image Boards|/co/]], one poster named "Dr. Foreigner" pointed out the crosseyed pegasus and remarked "And so the legend of Derpy Hooves is born". And born it ''was''.
==== "Ditzy Doo" ====
In "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E11 Winter Wrap Up|Winter Wrap Up]]", [[All There in Thethe Script|Rainbowshine]]/[[Fan Nickname|Rainbow Day]] tells Rainbow Dash that a pony named Ditzy Doo went "north to get the ''southern'' birds". Ditzy was never on-screen during this moment. While there's [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment|speculation]] on who the real Ditzy Doo is, [[Lauren Faust]] stated that they might use Derpy's design if they ever need to show Ditzy, and since then a lot of fans have adopted this as her "real" name. One [http://kreoss.deviantart.com/journal/37142876/ animator] says she was called "Ditzy", "Stoneface", and "Bubbles" in-studio before the brony phenomenon kicked off, though more recently the official storyboard sketches and "[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E14 The Last Roundup|The Last Roundup]]" call her "Derpy".
 
The name "Ditzy Doo" appears to have been dropped entirely; in the first draft of "Last Roundup", the pony whom Rainbow Dash was scolding was explicitly named "Ditzy". In a later draft of both the script and the animation storyboards, "Ditzy" was replaced entirely by Derpy as a [[Fandom Nod]]. However, the inclusion of this nod, coupled with some other decisions did lead to the incident, mostly known as "Derpgate" by the fandom. The term can unfortunately be seen and used as a slur against the disabled, and not wanting to offend anyone, lead to the scene edited so that she isn't referred to by any name. Therefore, it is possible that she is actually named Ditzy Doo or something else entirely, if she ever has a speaking role once again.
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==== Derpy's day job ====
She's almost always depicted as either a mailpony or delivery pony, based on her scene in "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E15 Feeling Pinkie Keen|Feeling Pinkie Keen]]" where she's shown sheepishly smiling to an apparent supervisor (directly above a pile of smashed debris and smashed Twilight). In all cases she's shown as devoted. Her competence ranges from "[[The Fool|unable to fly in a straight line]]" to "[[Achievements in Ignorance|capable of the impossible]]".
 
==== Muffins ====
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== Berry Punch's Alcoholism ==
==== Origins ====
This fan interpretation started in one of season 1's episodes entitled "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E12 Call of the Cutie|Call of the Cutie]]". There was a party held at Sugarcube Corner for Diamond Tiara and other fillies called Cute-ceañera: a coming of age celebration for young fillies who just earned their cutie marks.<ref>which is a pony version of a real occasion called "[[wikipedia:Quincinera|Quinceañera]]"</ref> In one scene, Apple Bloom attempted to escape the party by using a table with a punch bowl and a bunch of cups on top of it as cover. One of the adult guests noticed the punch bowl so she had no choice but to stop moving or be discovered. The pony looked around to see if anyone is looking and then proceeds to drink ''directly'' from the punch bowl instead of using one of the cups (how an earth pony could hold and use a cup or even use the ladle to scoop a punch into the cup is unknown at this point).
==== [[Weirdness Magnet]]? ====
Strange and outrageous things seems to happen to her out of nowhere. [[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E2 The Return of Harmony Part 2|Discord]] makes a bunch of fake houses collapse as she sneezes, and [[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E17 Hearts and Hooves Day|Big Mac]] drags her whole house out of it foundations ''with her inside''. No wonder [[The Alcoholic|she drinks]].
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== I'm a Pony now. Ponies are cool ==
==== Origin ====
It's not clear how now fans jumped to the conclusion that this rather generic looking pony is [[Doctor Who|The Doctor]] but he first appeared with his cutie mark in "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E11 Winter Wrap Up|Winter Wrap Up]]".<ref>he previously appeared as early the end of "Mare In The Moon", but his cutie mark wasn't visible</ref> Fans noticed he had spiky hair, a brown coat and his hourglass cutie mark meant whatever he does is time related. Who else has spiky hair, wears a brown coat and is time related? [[David Tennant]]. For whatever reason it just clicked with fans and crossover fanworks featuring him starting sprouting up everywhere.
 
==== [[Fan Nickname]] ====
Fans can't decide on Doctor ''Whoof'' or ''Whooves'', but the pun remains the same. We mostly use Whooves on [[This Wiki]] because the [[The Merch|WeLoveFine shirts]] use it, and [http://www.reddit.com/r/mylittlepony/comments/jwp94/im_jayson_thiessen_supervising_director_of_mlpfim/c2fq2na according to director Jayson Thiessen], the show's staff have also started to call him Doctor Whooves (though it isn't clear if he specifially meant Whooves, or just the Whoof/Whooves names in general). It's "[[I Am Not Shazam|The Doctor]]" anyways.
 
In a storyboard released by Sibsy but later taken down that showed his scene in "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E12 Call of the Cutie|Call of the Cutie]]", his lines were simply credited as "Pony." This is probably the same for any background pony with a speaking part.
 
==== Which Doctor? ====
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==== To be Human ====
More of a [[Running Gag]], but the "Lyra wants to be human" deal comes from her [[Funny Background Event]] in "[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E7 Dragon Shy|Dragonshy]]", where she's seen in the background sitting (or slouching to be precise) on a bench like a human being in contrast to another pony beside her who is sitting like a normal pony would. Later in "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E13 Fall Weather Friends|Fall Weather Friends]]" she's seen holding a drinking cup with her hoof when she could've easily just used her unicorn magic to hold it instead.
 
These series of seemingly random yet somehow related events have led fans to joke about her obsession with hands, an "[[Humans Are Cthulhu|ancient race of humanoids]]", having a secret desire to be one (usually by mimicking various common human behaviors like standing, walking and running on two legs) to wishing to visit their world. Due to the fact that humans don't exist in the show, other ponies around her find her hobby strange, weird and bizarre. Treating us as if we're some sort of mythological creature/a legend/a fairy tale in fan works or even non-existent at all as if Lyra got this from out of the blue. This plot element is usually used for comedic reasons but the use of this for serious situations is not unheard of.
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==== Personality ====
Most fans depict her with a [[The Rock Star|"rock star" personality]]: energetic, a bit eccentric, and likes to party all night and have fun especially at nightclubs along with other archetypal traits and personality of a DJ and/or a party goer. She's also portrayed as a "cool" character: Very outgoing, confident, likes to look cool and impress other ponies most often using her talent as a DJ and loves the attention of her fans. She has also been portrayed to like other genres of music besides her love for [[Electronic Music]] such as various forms of rock music like [[Punk Rock (Music)|Punk Rock]] and [[Heavy Metal (Music)|Heavy Metal]]. Besides her iconic turntable, she has been portrayed playing an [http://fav.me/d4g85dw electric guitar] and an [http://fav.me/d4fbash electronic piano]. When not in a club being a DJ, she is often depicted to bring along an mp3 player like an iPod with her which she listens to using [http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/list/vinyl_scratch%20headphones/1 large headphones]<ref>which is a generic accessory for a DJ character</ref> more often than earbuds.
 
Flaws that is often portrayed is her brashness, her mild untidiness especially after parties, being a night owl<ref>A person who is more active at night than during the day</ref>, and most prominently her loudness which often annoys her neighbors or apartment mates (depending on the setting) [http://askstonedtrixie.tumblr.com/post/11599336971 during sleep hours] especially Octavia who prefers a more calm and quiet type of music in contrast to Vinyl's taste in music. She's the type of character that would act first and ask questions later, the type that follows her heart more often than her head. Another one is her hidden loneliness with all the fans she has, [http://fav.me/d4dvzv5 she has few to] [http://fav.me/d46inag call real friends.]
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==== Pinkie's Sister? ====
After "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E26 The Best Night Ever|The Best Night Ever]]" aired, fans were quick to note that Octavia looked similar to [[Fan Nickname|Inkie]], one of Pinkie's sisters seen her flashback in "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E23 The Cutie Mark Chronicles|Cutie Mark Chronicles]]". Octavia's initial reaction to Pinkie appearing on stage was also noticeably different - her band mates were surprised, but Octavia just rolled her eyes, as if this has happened to her before. Despite the colors not matching exactly (even the eye colors are different shades of pink), the idea of Pinkie having an [[Elegant Classical Musician]] for a [[Sibling Yin-Yang|sister]] was too much to pass up.
 
When playing with this fanon, she usually gets the full name Inkabella Octavia Pie, and there's some [[Hand Wave|handwaving]] on why Pinkie didn't directly say hi to her at the Gala, usually Pinkie not wanting to embarrass her band mates too much or they didn't recognize each other right away having not seen each other for some time. The popular [http://askoctavia.tumblr.com/ Ask Octavia] Tumblr blog plays with this by having her as Pinkie's ''cousin'', allowing for Pinkie & Octavia [[Sibling Yin-Yang]] with a much lower possibility of being [[Jossed]] should we ever see an adult Inkie in the show.
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== Name Origins ==
==== Carrot Cake ====
This was her [[Fan Nickname]] before the show revealed Mrs. Cake's complete name is also Carrot Cake. Evidence and traces of its existence can be seen in earlier fan works like the famous [[Carrot Cake Storybook (Webcomic)|comic story]] that spawned the "I emptied your fridge" gag.
==== Carrot Top ====
Due to the new canon name, fans have decided to come up with a new [[Fan Nickname]] for her to avoid confusion and have agreed on calling her "Carrot Top" from now on. Why they chose this name and how it is related (if at all) to the person of the same name is uncertain. An interesting note is [http://kreoss.deviantart.com/journal/37142876/ one of the animators] says he coincidentally also named her "Carrot Top". Fans and animators think alike it seems.
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* [[I Just Want to Be Special]]: Some fans like to make this as her goal in life or at least she tries to. One such depictions is the fan song ''[http://youtu.be/2z5eizH0u1I "Beyond Her Garden"]'' and its many remixes.
* [[Muggle]]: Fans often depict her as your average everypony. She may not be the smartest, strongest, fastest, or riches ponies around but [[Determinator|she does try her best]], even though it's still isn't enough.
** This concept was popularized by the popular the comic series ''[[Carrot Cake Storybook (Webcomic)|"Carrot Cake Storybook"]]'' and the fan song ''[http://youtu.be/2z5eizH0u1I "Beyond Her Garden"]'' which was dedicated to her and has received many remixes.
* [[Muggle Best Friend]]: This is her to any pony she is paired with.
* [[Name's the Same]]: Her toy name "Golden Harvest" shares its name to [[wikipedia:Golden Harvest|a film company of the same name]]. Golden Harvest happens to have produced many [[Bruce Lee]] and [[Jackie Chan]] movies. Depictions of her in a [[Stock Costume Traits|martial artist's getup]] and/or [http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/view/79784 the company's logo] became a brief trend when the toy was released.
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** She also shares her fandom name of "Carrot Top" with the American comedian known as [[wikipedia:Carrot Top|Carrot Top]]. Which may explain why she is named differently by Hasbro.
* [[The Rival]]: Fans often depict her as seeing herself as the rival of the Apples when it comes to the single crop focused business even though her garden pales in comparison to their farm.
* [[Unlikely Heroine]] / [[Weirdness Magnet]]: Carrot Top is sometimes put in weird and unusual situations in fan stories. For instance her first encounter with Derpy Hooves in the famous ''[[Carrot Cake Storybook (Webcomic)|"Carrot Cake Storybook"]]'' where she had an entire mini adventure just to deliver an injured Derpy's package and in ''[http://fav.me/d4ej3qp "The Mane Attraction"]'' comic series where she decided to not have a hair cut which proves to have unforeseen consequences as every pony around her fell madly in love with her new mane-do.
 
=== Caramel ===
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* [[Awesome McCoolname]]:
** Whoever coined and popularized "Sir Colton Vines III" for Daisy's male companion [[All There in Thethe Script|Goldengrape]] deserves a brohoof.
** One of Roid Rage's other [[Fan Nickname|Fan Nicknames]], ''Horse Power''.
* [[Department of Redundancy Department]]: One of Roid Rage's other [[Fan Nickname|Fan Nicknames]], Mr. Big McLargehuge.
* [[Just for Pun]]: Roid Rage's "Horse Power" [[Fan Nickname]], being a pun off...well...horsepower.
* [[Meaningful Name]]: Fans have always associated a pegasus ponies' wings with "something" (a.k.a. the "wingboner"). Roid Rage/Mr. Big McLargehuge/Horse Power has outrageously tiny wings compared to his bulky size and other pegasus ponies'. Since there's this popular myth about steroids making the user's certain something shrink, it only further [[Incredibly Lame Pun|solidified]] the fans' theory that he does use steroids or their world's equivalent of steroids.
* [[Third Person Person|Third Person Pony]]: Before "A Canterlot Wedding" gave [[All There in Thethe Script|Twinkleshine]] more non-third-person speaking lines, some fans theorised that she was Moondancer herself. Naturally there's a fancomic of her meeting Trixie.
 
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==== Carrot Top ====
There is a popular fanon within the community revolving around Carrot Top and Derpy Hooves being [[Heterosexual Life Partner]] and roommates. Their friendship was popularized by [[Carrot Cake Storybook (Webcomic)|a series of story sketches]] by [http://elosande.deviantart.com/ Elosande]<ref>Elosande is also known for drawing Derpy and Carrot Top comic sketches which have also solidified the "I emptied your fridge" [[Running Gag]] meme and the notion that they live in the same house.</ref> which has also spawned the "I emptied your fridge" meme back in January of 2011. Carrot Top is usually portrayed as [[The Straight Man|the straight mare]] to Derpy's [[The Ditz|goofiness]]. As noted on the main page, they were spotted standing next to each other in some crowd scenes in Season 1. The "[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E4 Luna Eclipsed|Luna Eclipsed]]" scene where Derpy accidentally drains an apple bobbing tub while Carrot looks on annoyingly at her action seems to be a [[Fandom Nod]] by the animators to this friendship.
 
==== Dinky ====
Many fans have taking a liking to Derpy being the mother of a background filly named Dinky. The whole thing came from speculation around the time "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E12 Call of the Cutie|Call of the Cutie]]" aired. At the time, it wasn't known that Sweetie Belle was Rarity's sister, and fans speculated that all the adult ponies at Diamond Tiara's party were either the parents or older siblings of the fillies there, with the obvious exception of Pinkie & Twilight. Derpy was at the party and Dinky was noted to having similar hair. A fanfic involving the two later popularized the idea, resulting in a ton of adorable fanworks. Up until "[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E5 Sisterhooves Social|Sisterhooves Social]]", they had never been seen on screen at the same time, and even then they're not standing near each other.
 
==== Dinky's father ====
Who Dinky's father is is up in the air and most fans have their own interpretation. The most popular male pony to be shipped with Derpy was another background pony known as Doctor Whooves. Due to the pairing's popularity and the fact that both their last names sound the same when pronounced<ref>That is, if you [[Spell My Name Withwith an "S"|actually call him "Whooves"]]</ref> has spawned the notion that he may be in fact be Dinky's father albeit an adoptive one, seeing as Doctor Whooves is an earth pony. However, with the episode "[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E12 Baby Cakes|Baby Cakes]]" showcasing that ponies can have children outside their race (albeit rarely), him fathering a unicorn daughter is not impossible.
 
As for Dinky's biological father, most fans seem to agree it had to be a unicorn, some pairing Derpy up with Ponet<ref>the painter pony from "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E12 Call of the Cutie|Call of the Cutie]]"</ref> (who, like Dinky, is a purple unicorn with a blonde mane), Pokey Pierce (probably the most well known male background unicorn), or some [[Disappeared Dad|unknown unicorn father that's just no longer present]]. Most fanfics have Derpy as a single mother living on her own or with Carrot Top, for whatever reason.
 
==== Sparkler (Amethyst Star) ====
Dinky is shown to have an older sister in "[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E5 Sisterhooves Social|Sisterhooves Social]]": A lesser known background pony known as Sparkler, who first appeared alongside Lyra in the pilot episode but has never had much fanon tied to her. Inconsistencies in the episode aside<ref>Sparkler and the other big sisters are shown in the stands watching themselves race</ref>, this new piece of information has spawned numerous debates concerning Dinky's fanon status as Derpy Hooves's daughter. Numerous theories have been purposed from Derpy being much [[Older Than She Looks]]<ref>A common back up to this theory comes from the episode "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E23 The Cutie Mark Chronicles|Cutie Mark Chronicles]]" where we see her among the crowd in a flashback where the mane cast were still fillies. Another explanation involves the Derpy Hooves/Doctor Whooves shipping fanon where it claims that Derpy doesn't age due to an incident caused by the pony Doctor.</ref>, to Sparkler being Dinky's half-sister, to Sparkler posing as Dinky's sister in a similar fashion to Sweetie Belle and Applejack, [http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/11/story-my-sweetie_22.html to Dinky being Derpy's biological daughter and Sparkler being adopted], to the entire Derpy and Dinky fanon being [[Jossed]] among other things. Already, this new fanon is beginning to spawn its [http://fav.me/d4fds9a own] [http://fav.me/d4f7jtj series] [http://fav.me/d4fczm5 of] [http://fav.me/d4f9ejx fanworks] [http://fav.me/d4fl2bz deriving] from this. Whatever Sparkler's connection to the two may be, it certainly looks like there's a new addition to Derpy's family. In "[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E8 The Mysterious Mare Do Well|The Mysterious Mare Do Well]]" she is seen having a picnic with [[Fan Nickname|Tootsie Flute]] who may be her daughter.
* Alternatively, perhaps that filly Sparkler was having a picnic with is a cousin of hers and Dinky's that doesn't live in Ponyville (maybe a branch lives in Canterlot or Manehattan), and the picnic was to welcome her to Ponyville (to justify Derpy & Dinky not being there, Derpy was probably doing her day job and perhaps Dinky was studying with friends, and Sparkler happened to have her day off assuming she has a job).
** On a relative note, both Dinky and Tootsie Flute were seen together in the "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E11 Winter Wrap Up|Winter Wrap Up]]" song.
* Also the possibility that she may also be a local Ponyville foal-sitter (in spite of her Canterlot appearance).
==== Doctor Whooves ====
As mentioned, the Doctor (when he is a pony version of The Doctor) often finds himself accompanied by Derpy in fan projects (some stories have used Twilight Sparkle as a companion instead, of course). This would follow the Doctor's pattern of finding unique (yet not conventionally powerful) female companions for his travels, as well as leaving [[Main/My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic/Characters/The Mane Cast/Characters|the mane six]] intact for their own adventures. This can alternate with, combine with, cause, end with, or otherwise [[Timey-Wimey Ball|timey-wimey]] with whether he is the father of Dinky and/or Sparkler/Amethyst Star, by nature, adoption, or just hanging around all the time and taking care of them.
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== Lyra and Bon Bon ==
Another popular fanon pairing (even more than shipping the main characters) is two background ponies. Lyra is mentioned above. Bon Bon is a cream-coated earth pony with a blue and pink mane. Of the two, Bon Bon has had the most speaking parts (Bon Bon's parts include looking for Fluttershy in "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E20 Green Isn't Your Color|Green Isn't Your Colour]]", fending off Apple Bloom's advances in "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E12 Call of the Cutie|Call of the Cutie]]", gushing over the enchanted Smartypants doll in "[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E3 Lesson Zero|Lesson Zero]]", complaining about her rotten cider in "[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E15 The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000|The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000]]", and wanting to hear a joke in "[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E19 Putting Your Hoof Down|Putting Your Hoof Down]]", whereas Lyra had no lines at all until [[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E25 A Canterlot Wedding Part 1|A Canterlot Wedding - PArt 1]]). The idea started when these two ponies were shown together in the background of some scenes (as background ponies tend to do), with fans liking the idea of them being in a relationship. The main reason the two ended up together in the show was more 'aesthetic reasons'. Fan reaction helped persuade the artist behind the San Diego Comic-Con poster to put them together. Looking at each other. Most fanworks, whether text or art, have them as at least good friends, with Bon Bon occasionally reacting to Lyra's human-like habits (see Lyra above). As a nod to the fans, the crew put the two of them in the background of [[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E10 Secret of My Excess|an episode]] where they appear together by a well, only to have Derpy pop out of the well and ruin their moment. Later, [[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E19 Putting Your Hoof Down|another episode]] showed Bon Bon wearing a saddlebag with a clip shaped like Lyra's cutie mark.
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== Caramel and Big Macintosh ==
Caramel first appeared in the season 1 episode “[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E11 Winter Wrap Up|Winter Wrap Up]]” alongside Big Macintosh, looking rather guilty. Big Macintosh wanted to talk with Applejack but before he could explain anythingm AJ already responded with “Oh, good gravy. Caramel lost the grass seeds again, didn't he?”
 
The fact that Caramel was one of a few background ponies with an official name immediately created the interest of the fans. Soon the first people started to ship him with Big Macintosh and eventually “CaraMac” became a popular – if not the most popular – male pairing in the Fandom.
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