Jump to content

Not with the Safety On, You Won't: Difference between revisions

m
Mass update links
m (Dai-Guard moved page Not With the Safety On, You Won't to Not with the Safety On, You Won't: Lowercase prepositions)
m (Mass update links)
Line 5:
'''Simon Gruber:''' Well, if that's what you gotta do.<br />
(click...click click...click)<br />
'''Simon Gruber:''' (calmly takes gun, releases safety) You've got to take the safety catch off. (Shoots Zeus in the leg) See, that works.|''[[Die Hard (Film)|Die Hard]] III''}}
 
If guns are featured in a movie, and someone inexperienced takes to using one (the [[Distressed Damsel]] or similar character), there's a good chance of this phrase being uttered. There are three versions:
Line 19:
In [[Real Life]] though, some of these would be hard to pull off. The person on the other end would have to have a keen eye and knowledge of the particular weapon to notice the position of the safety at a distance. If bluffing, he would have to be sure the person with the gun wouldn't check by pulling the trigger. Finally, most firearms which employ a manually disengaged safety are designed so the safety can be disengaged in a heartbeat by a swift movement of the thumb. Even an untrained shooter can flick it with their thumb while squeezing the trigger. This is an intentional feature of many assault rifles, shotguns, hunting rifles, and pistols, as soldiers, hunters, and policemen all have legitimate reasons for wanting to be able to carry a weapon on safe yet still be able to perform a "snap shot." The AK-47 and variants are a notable exception, as their very awkwardly placed selectors do make quickly disengaging the safety difficult, especially for right handed shooters.
 
When the safety has been deliberately left on in case the weapon gets stolen, the person stealing it may find [[It Works Better Withwith Bullets]].
 
The inverse sometimes shows up in movies where a gun ''is'' fired with the safety on, presumably to keep actors from death by blank. This annoys gun nuts; the appropriate special effects hide the phenomenon from other viewers.
Line 31:
*** It makes for a bit of [[Fridge Brilliance]] when you realize that Kira for the most part would never want to use a gun as he probably can't shoot someone without accidentally killing them. Every shot he fired with it ends up being wasted because he had convinced himself that killing is wrong... in a war.
* Done in the ''[[Battle Royale]]'' manga, in a flashback: a guy holds a revolver to Shogo's girlfriend's head, and demands that Shogo drop his gun or else he will shoot her. Shogo casually says, "You're not going to shoot her -- the safety's on," causing the other guy to check to see if that's true, and Shogo uses the opening to shoot the guy in the face. He then remarks: "Idiot. Revolvers don't have safety catches."
* A very well done example in the ''[[Venus Wars (Manga)|Venus Wars]]'' movie. A reporter gets a chance to interview the [[Big Bad]], struggles with her sense of journalistic ethics, and after much angst works up the courage to conduct the interview then point a weapon in his face. The [[Big Bad]] has a look of fear and horror cross his face, then bemusement when he realizes she left the safety on.
* In ''Orguss 02'', used by the series' [[Magnificent Bastard]], Manning, who notes as he's being tied up by the series' naive hero Lean that 'you can't fire that gun without a bullet in the chamber. Next time, pull the bolt first.' Lean ''himself'' provides an inversion, realising the Derringer his companion Naturuma has repeatedly pointed at him isn't loaded, reminding her that a professional soldier might recognise this immediately.
* In [[Hentai]] anime / manga ''Kamyla'', the main character escapes from confinement because she sees the mook's gun having safety on, and beat him up.
* ''[[Eureka Seven]]'' featured Holland using this trick and then punching away the gun.
* An interesting variant of this crossing with [[It Works Better Withwith Bullets]] appears in ''[[Detective Conan]]'' {{spoiler|Fake Shinichi}} is holding the rest of the cast at gun point when Shinichi calmly points out the gun is empty, dropping the bullets from his hands. {{spoiler|Fake shinichi}} checks and discovers its a lie, but its too late as it already gave Shinichi time to disarm him.
** {{spoiler|Jodie}} successfully puts the gun's safety lever on during an episode about a bus-jacking. The other guy found out too late.
 
 
== Comic Books ==
* In ''[[Batman (Comic Book)|Batman: No Man's Land]]'', in an interlude called "The punk and the nomad", a punk threatens to shoot a guy for batteries. But the nomad points out that there's no way the gun's loaded, not because he knows, but because if the punk had a bullet, it would be worth more than the batteries. The nomad walks away unharmed.
* Done hilariously in an old ''[[G.I. Joe]]'' comic, where Snake Eyes' old master, pretending to be a simple chef, deals with an attempted robbery by a young teenager. First he points out that the safety is on in the boy's gun, and when the boy takes it off, he grabs the gun's slide, pops out the bullet from the chamber, drops the clip off, and then offers to buy the empty gun from him for $100, dropping it in a crate full of empty pistols!
 
 
== Film ==
* A particularly egregious example is in ''[[Die Hard (Film)|Die Hard]] 3''. Hero John McClane ([[Bruce Willis (Creator)]]) gives his reluctant ally Zeus ([[Samuel L. Jackson]]) a submachine gun lifted from a fallen mook to defend himself as they search the bad guys' boat, even giving him a short primer on how to use the gun. Zeus later comes upon [[Big Bad]] Simon Gruber (Jeremy Irons) and holds him at gunpoint; Simon takes the gun away, casually notes (of course) he's got the safety on, flips off the safety and shoots him.
* In the beginning of ''[[The Fifth Element]]'', Korben is confronted by a crazed robber with a rather nasty-looking gun. Korben informs him that the safety's on, but is even helpful enough to point it out to him and give him a chance to flip the switch. Cue the subversion, as the poor dumb criminal has just ''de''activated the gun, and Corben pulls his own weapon on him and takes it.
** It helps that the guy is obviously a drug addict in desperate need of a fix. His hands were visibly shaking, as Korben immediately noticed.
* Possible subversion in ''[[Run Lola Run (Film)|Run Lola Run]]'': Lola is threatening a police officer with a gun. The cop seems to be strangely unafraid of her, until her boyfriend informs her that the safety is on, and tells her how to disable it. In a later scene in the movie, Lola steals a gun from a security guard and immediately flicks off the safety catch before firing it, despite the former scene having taken place in an alternate timeline.
** {{spoiler|There is probably some degree of retained memory though, as later in the movie the characters start experiencing a bit of ''déja vu''}}.
* In the ''[[James Bond (Filmfilm)|James Bond]]'' movie ''[[Live and Let Die (Filmfilm)|Live and Let Die]]'' rookie agent Rosie Carver finds a hidden arsenal in Quarrel Junior's boat and confronts him with a revolver, only to be told she's left the safety catch on. This is a little odd, since while revolvers ''can'' have safeties, most don't have a catch to operate them.
** Type 2 in ''[[Dr. No (Film)|Dr. No]]'', when a hitman tries to shoot Bond with an empty gun. "That's a Smith and Wesson. And you've had your six."
* ''[[The Rock (Filmfilm)|The Rock]]'': Just after Goodspeed and Mason's Navy SEAL teammates are all drawn into a trap and killed, Goodspeed tries to stop Mason from leaving by pulling his pistol on him. Mason replies that [[Defensive Failure|Goodspeed doesn't have what it takes to kill him]], adding [[Not Withwith the Safety On, You Won't|"Besides, the safety's on"]] before grabbing the gun away.
* ''[[Shoot 'Em Up (Filmfilm)|Shoot Em Up]]'' features this trope when, at the beginning of the movie, the hero, Mr. Smith holds the villain, Mr. Hertz at gunpoint with his own gun. Hertz appears quite jolly, even reciting a limerick, until Smith tries to shoot him, only to find that the gun has a fingerprint sensor to prevent anyone but the owner from discharging it. Later, {{spoiler|it is inverted, when Smith corners Hertz in a brothel, who chuckles again as Smith pulls out a gun, the freezes in horror as Smith pulls out the previous owner's hand, and places the thumb on the sensor to authorize the gun. Hertz is saved by his bulletproof vest.}}
* This happens to One-Round, the [[Dumb Muscle]] member of the gang in the 1955 version of ''The Ladykillers.''
* Early in the John Woo ''[[Broken Arrow (1996 (Filmfilm)|Broken Arrow]]'', Terry Carmichael's handgun passes between herself and Riley Hale twice courtesy of this trope. Hale manages to wrest the gun from Terry when she tries to hold him at gunpoint, but when he attempts to order her at gunpoint, she replies that she never keeps it loaded... which gives him pause long enough for her to get the weapon back from him. When he protests that she said it wasn't loaded, she fires off a warning shot to prove that she was lying.
** Proving that however hot a bomber jock he is, Hale is not a "gun guy". When a revolver is pointed at you, it's easy to tell if it's loaded or not - just ''look at the little holes in the front of the cylinder''. If each one has a bullet looking back out at you, you can safely assume the thing will go ''bang'' if the trigger is pulled. (For people who actually know firearms, this scene is a guaranteed groan-inducer.)
*** To be fair, that would require a little more forethought than he probably had a chance for at the time while being arrested by a park ranger--he had no reason to DOUBT that the gun was loaded until he had it in his hand.
Line 62:
* In [[Big Trouble in Little China]], Jack has a little bit of trouble plugging a mook until his partner reminds him to take off the safety...
* A cool variation in ''[[Damnatus]]'', where an enemy mook gets a hit in on [[Technopath|tech-priest]] Oktavian and uses the opening to pull a gun. The gun fails to fire. A now-recovered Oktavian explains "Machine empathy..." and whacks the mook with his power axe.
* Played with in ''[[Fierce Creatures]]'', first successfully to disarm a gunman then, while explaining to someone that the safety was on all the time it ventures into [[I Just Shot Marvin in Thethe Face]].
* There's a rather strange example in ''[[District 9]]'', where mercenaries are conducting a raid on a shanty. From a gun-mounted view of an assault rifle, it is clearly visible that the selector is set on safe when the mercenary is taking point on a raid.
** Perfectly justified. No soldier worth their uniform would take the safety off until the last moment. Waving around an assault rifle in all the exitement with the safety off is a recipe for disaster even in the hands of a trained professional.
Line 73:
* ''[[Snatch]]'' has a variation, when Bullet-tooth Tony points out that the guns being wielded by his would-be attackers have the word 'replica' written on them, while his has the words 'Desert Eagle'.
** [[BFG|"Point Five-Oh"]]
* Inverted in [[Star Trek: First Contact]]. Picard is disarmed by a 21st Century native who flips out at him and admits that while she doesn't know how a phaser works, she'll start pushing buttons if Picard doesn't do as she says. Picard calmly does as she wants, and once he finally gains her trust and is handed the phaser back, Picard points out that the phaser was set to maximum and would have vaporized him if it had gone off.
** Fun bit of trivia: during this scene, you can see a red light briefly flash on the front of the phaser prop. [[I Just Shot Marvin in Thethe Face|this is set off by the trigger of the prop, as a sign to the SFX department to add a phaser beam effect in post]].
** Played straighter in the novelization, where, after getting the phaser back, Picard observes that the weapon was on the ''minimum'' setting and comments that if she'd fired, it have "given [him] a rather nasty rash."
* In ''[[Tucker and Dale Versus Evil]]'', the sheriff suffers a fatal accident in Tucker and Dale's cabin. One of the panicking college kids takes the sheriff's gun and tries to kill Tucker and Dale, but fails thanks to the safety. Dale ''[[Too Dumb to Live|helpfully points this out to him]]'' while Tucker gives him a look that just screams "What the hell is wrong with you". Fortunately for Tucker and Dale the kid ''[[Too Dumb to Live|points the gun at his own face]]'' while trying to disable the safety, [[I Just Shot Marvin in Thethe Face|with predictable results]].
* {{spoiler|Billy}} pulls this on {{spoiler|Gale}} in the finale of ''[[Scream (Filmfilm)|Scream]]''; she steals his gun as he holds the [[Final Girl]] hostage, and proceeds to run through a "the good guys win and the news reporter gets the scoop" scenario, when he stops to inform her that he knows something she doesn't:
{{quote| "The safety's on!"}}
** She gets a [[Take That]] back, however:
Line 88:
* [[Matthew Reilly|Ice Station]] uses a type 2. Shane Schofield gives his ally James Renshaw a pistol, who then uses it to hold up [[Big Bad|Barnaby]]. Barnaby just laughs and pulls out his own gun because Renshaw didn't chamber a round. Renshaw decided to run before he was shot.
* At [[The Climax]] of the [[Tom Clancy]] Ryanverse novel ''Patriot Games'', after the [[Big Bad]] is taken into custody, one of the Marines that joined Ryan on the would-be escape ship points out that if John had really wanted to kill the terrorist, he'd have had the safety off. As a part of the "Green Machine" legacy himself, Ryan would be more than familiar with the safety of the pistol he was holding.
* In [[Artemis Fowl (Literature)|Artemis Fowl]] Book 3, Juliet disarms a hitman's pistol without him realizing it. After he threatens her with the useless weapon, she taunts him with the slide she removed from the weapon, then knocks him unconcious.
* An amusing variant appears in ''[[Discworld (Literature)/Making Money|Making Money]]'' when Moist tracks down escaped forger Owlswick Jenkins in his workshop. Terrified of going back to prison, Jenkins threatens to commit suicide by eating a tube of highly toxic paint, but Moist snatches it out of his mouth when he tries.
{{quote| '''Moist:''' Just as I thought. You forgot to take the cap off. [[Lampshade Hanging|It's the kind of mistake amateurs always make!]]}}
** Inverted in ''[[Discworld (Literature)/Men At Arms|Men At Arms]]''; When Detritus first hefts up the [[BF Ghundred-pound|siegebow]] later known as the Piecemaker to threaten an armourer, Corporal Nobbs expresses (possibly insincere) hope that the safety catch ''is'' on, and that the armorer has properly maintained it as it was known to succumb readily to metal fatigue. Detritus's reply: "[[Oh Crap|What are a safety catch?]]" (By ''[[Discworld (Literature)/Night Watch|Night Watch]]'', Vimes has taught Detritus that "When Mister Safety Catch Is Not On, Mister Crossbow Is Not Your Friend".)
 
 
== Live Action TV ==
* Appears back in 1966 in the ''[[The Wild Wild West (TV series)|The Wild Wild West]]'' episode "Night of the Deadly Bubble", where the female professor thinks West is an intruder, but West knows she won't shoot him because the safety's on.
* Not really a gun, but in ''[[Doctor Who]]'' [[Magnificent Bastard|The Master]] scuppers a plan to hold him at laser-screwdriver-point by setting it so [[Loyal Phlebotinum|it only works for him]]. He is then able to steal it back and [[Kick the Dog|nick the protagonist's mother with it.]]
** And played straight on the Doctor's end as he went up against the [[Big Bad]] in the finale issue of IDW's ''The Forgotten'' miniseries.
Line 121:
''Hardison looks down to check, and Nathan grabs the gun.'' }}
** Similarly, in "The Girls' Night Out Job", Sophie tells a thug pointing a gun at her that the safety is on. While he's checking the gun, Tara comes up behind him and breaks a vase over his head, commenting that the safety was off. [[Badass Boast|"Not to a grifter."]]
* In the first season ''[[The Man Fromfrom UNCLEU.N.C.L.E.]]'' episode "The King of Knaves Affair" Napoleon Solo (under cover) takes advantage of a [[Not Withwith the Safety On, You Won't|failure to check the safety]] to disarm a woman accosting him in his hotel room.
{{quote| '''Ernestine Pepper''': Mr. Smith, the first shot goes into the floor, the second goes into your head.<br />
'''Napoleon Solo''' [''slowly walking towards Pepper'']: Alright then, better shoot and get it over with. [''Pepper fumbles with the pistol, which does not fire. Solo disarms her''] You see, the safety catch is on; it limits the range of the weapon considerably. }}
* The captain pulls this on Ken in the [[MST3KMystery Science Theater 3000]] episode ''[[Fugitive Alien]]''. It's justified, Ken's from an alien race that uses lasers instead of bullets.
** Although laser weapons would need safeties for the same reason conventional firearms have them.
** The same applies to Stan in an episode of ''[[Lexx]]''.
Line 146:
** Which does not really make sense, as assault rifles aside from an AK-47 variant have the selector switch located where it can be deactivated in no time, thus allowing a soldier to carry it on safe yet still take a snap shot.
** In 4, he snatches Johnny Sasaki's gun away after almost exactly the same lines after the less experienced soldier visually inspects his [[Rare Guns|XM8]]. Since the XM8 was designed to evoke muscle memory from years of training with the M16 family, and it's almost impossible to pass even rudimentary military training without being able to tell the safety's position by feel, this succeeds in making Johnny look like an absolute moron.
** Naked Snake does this to Ocelot twice in the third game; the first time, his Makarov jams because he's tried to load it improperly, and the second time, because he's used to pistols with bigger magazines, he doesn't realise that his new [[Revolvers Are Just Better|Single Action Army]] [[It Works Better Withwith Bullets|runs out after six shots]].
** Hideo Kojima, the main man behind all the MGS games, has never shied away from a great deal of Artistic License when it comes to all things military. Each and every one of these scenes would cause a soldier to go down as the biggest moron in his unit's history, even if he were a private. It may work in the narrative of the series, but gun-savvy players can't help thinking that Ocelot, Meryl, Johnny, and even Snake are outright ignorant about tools they supposedly use daily.
* The mugger who keeps pestering you in ''[[Deja Vu]]'' repeatedly forgets to take the safety off, meaning you can score a punch to the nose and make him scurry off. The first few times, anyway...
** This is particularly strange, because the mugger in ''[[Deja Vu]]'' is clearly threatening you with a revolver, which would lack a safety.
* An inversion happens in the original ''[[Max Payne (Video Gameseries)|Max Payne]]'', when Max runs into [[Femme Fatale|Mona Sax]], her signature [[Small Girl, Big Gun|Desert Eagle]] aimed [[Mexican Standoff|point-blank into his face]]. He returns the favor with his own Beretta, [[Gunpoint Banter|uttering]]: "Your safety's off, [[Evil Twin]]. You could hurt somebody with that gun of yours."
* Subverted in ''[[Brass Restoration]]'': Ryo invokes this against {{spoiler|the bookstore owner}}, who then fires without hesitation. Turns out that that was exactly what Ryo was expecting--the question about the safety was to provoke him into firing. "...You can avoid a bullet if you know when it's fired."
 
 
== Webcomics ==
* Subverted in ''[[Schlock Mercenary (Webcomic)|Schlock Mercenary]]'', during the Tough's first encounter with Doyt Gyo and Haban, where their weapons failed to work. When Kevyn points out that all Haban did was use [[Tractor Beam|field-effectors]] to jam the safeties on all the guns, Tagon curtly points out that their mil-spec weapons didn't ''have'' safeties. "Oh. Well, they do now." "That's not subtle, that's showing off!"
 
 
Line 161:
* The Monarch of ''[[The Venture Bros]]'' is once shown telling an anecdote about when Captain Sunshine, a superhero, had a gun to his face, but the Monarch noticed he didn't touch the safety. The Monarch then claimed he was [[Immune to Bullets]], and when the gun didn't do anything, the Captain Sunshine ran away and has thought he was invulnerable ever since.
** ''[[Brick Joke|Three seasons later]]'', Captain Sunshine appears on the show, still believing the Monarch is invulnerable.
* An episode of ''[[Men in Black (Animationanimation)|Men in Black]]: The Series'' had a variation; J grabs an alien weapon he's unfamiliar with and points what he thinks is the business end at his attacker. The alien identifies the gun and informs him that he's pointing it the wrong way; J assumes the alien is trying to bluff him and fires anyway. Sure enough, a beam shoots out of what appeared to be the scope and just misses J's head, and the alien smugly comments that he was just trying to help.
 
 
Cookies help us deliver our services. By using our services, you agree to our use of cookies.