Star Trek V: The Final Frontier/YMMV: Difference between revisions

** When Klaa blasts the Pioneer 10 probe, it emits a cartoonish shriek (?!).

* [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]]: Kirk: "I thought I was dead." Spock: "Impossible. You were never alone."

* [[Did Not Do the Research]]: Sybok, ''Leif Eriksson'' was the one who proved the earth was round!

** [[What an Idiot!|You're both wrong.]] The idea of a spherical Earth dates all the way back to [[Ancient Greece|Pythagoras, Herodotus, Plato, and Aristotle]]. By the time of Columbus' voyage, only the most conservative religious groups still took the idea of a flat Earth from the Bible literally. The premise of the entire voyage was that the Earth was round! Columbus' only problem was that he underestimated the size of the Earth. All that the Vikings proved was that there was a landmass beyond the sea (which, according to [[Norse Mythology]] was supposedly the giants' homeworld of Jotunheim). If you want to get technical, the first person to "prove" the Earth was round was Juan Sebastian Elanco, Ferdinand Magellan's second-in-command who took over the expedition to circumnagivate the globe after Magellan was killed in the Phillipines.

* [[So Bad It's Good]]

* [[Special Effect Failure]]: Every damn special effect in the movie. Apart from a few good shots of the Klingon ship, which were pilfered from the previous two films.

** Ironically, the Rock Monsters that were originally going to be chasing Kirk rather than the disembodied head of not-God were tossed out because the one suit they made looked "like crap," according to many. [http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/202840/no_love_for_the_star_trek_v_rockman.html Seen here], we can see that they actually looked far better than the effects in the damned movie.

*** They look pretty decent standing posed for still photography, but that's still different than looking good in motion and intended to be watched on the big screen. Also there were apparently worries about the wearers' safety, since the suits were designed to emit smoke but the device to do so kept malfunctioning.

* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]: Kirk meets a villain who [[Epiphany Therapy|draws out his subjects' greatest pain]], but when the time comes he won't let the guy near him, thus blowing a perfectly good opportunity to deal with the loss of his son.

** Except that was the point of the scene. That Kirk doesn't want the pain drawn out, and he doesn't want to deal with it. He wants to hold onto it, keep it. It's not the emotional response that's considered healthy in modern Western society, but it's still an entirely human and understandable one.

* [[Took the Bad Film Seriously]]: Lawrence Luckinbill as Sybok.

* [[What Could Have Been]]: [[Word of God|According to Shatner]] and several others in on the original creation process of the movie, the plot would have followed the current form of the film much the same... until they met [[God]]. Instead of being a random alien, this would turn out to be ''[[Satan]]'' and McCoy would sacrifice himself to spare Spock and Kirk -- who would simply dive into Hell after their friend and drag him out of Hell with Satan nipping at their heels.

** This was nixed by various other people working on the film as just being too polarizing and not fitting for Star Trek. Or something equally bizarre -- which resulted in a string of compromises that resulted in a script far worse for the wear. Combined with the [[Special Effects Failure]] [[It Got Worse|that would later fly up]]...

** The "rock monsters" mentioned below under [[Special Effects Failure]] certainly also apply, at least in that they looked far better than the rest of the feature's effects.