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* [[Broken Base]] - Alignments. Game of choice. There's a ''lot'' to argue over.

* [[Did Not Do the Research]]: For a series [[Shown Their Work|usually good for this]], there are sometimes some glaring errors on the [[Needs More Love|less historically popular creatures]]. For example [[Shapeshifting Lover|sel]][[Celtic Mythology|kies]] were misspelled as "Silky" and given the house spirit backstory of brownies. Yet they appeared as themselves in the [[Devil Children]] games so at least [[Atlus]] retcons its mistakes.

* [[Draco in Leather Pants]] - There is ''nothing'' wrong with liking Chaos. Remember, though - that's the side that, while wanting to preserve Humanity, was the one to put the [[Moral Event Horizon|Z-Class]] [[Apocalypse How]] on the table and desires a Social Darwinst world with no restraint whatsoever. Just saying.

* [[MST3K Mantra]] - Satan is based on the Jewish view of Satan, the [[Quirky Miniboss Squad]] has the Catholic Uriel and Raphael, and {{spoiler|only a few people will be allowed into the Millennium Kingdom}} in [[Shin Megami Tensei II]], which mirrors (the Hollywood version of) Jehovah's Witness teachings. Note that Thor, Narukami and various other thunder gods [[All Myths Are True|co-exist]] and move on.

* [[Paranoia Fuel]]: An integral part of many of the [[Persona]] games.

* [[Sequel Displacement]] - Before [[Shin Megami Tensei]], there were two games for the Famicom called Megami Tensei (the first was adapted from the first novel of the ''Digital Devil Story'' series of novels). Few outside of Japan have heard of them, and even in Japan the number of gamers who came of age during the 90s and 00s who've actually played those games (or read the novel) are increasingly few in number.

* [[That One Attack]]: Any spell with the "Megido-" prefix. It must mean [[Nintendo Hard|"fuck your life"]] in some other language.

** [[wikipedia:Mount Megiddo|In a way, it does.]] That series of spells is named for the mountain where Armageddon will supposedly be fought.

* [[That One Boss]]: [[Wake Up Call Boss|Matador]] and Mot in Nocturne, the golden metal trio in Persona 2, Intrepid Knight in Persona 3, anyone in Digital Devil Saga with the second boss theme and probably a few more. Of course, if you don't use all of the options that are available to you like ailment inducing ammo, buff and debuff skills, buff and debuff cancelling skill, healing skills, elemental and ailments immunity to at least some of the bosses attacks, then expect lot of bosses to suddenly turn into [[Nintendo Hard]] [[That One Boss]]. You know what, let's just tell you we have [[That One Boss/Atlus|ThatOneBoss/Atlus]] (where Shin Megami Tensei makes up most of the article) and leave it at that.

* [[Uncanny Valley]] - Part of the series' aesthetic. While it remains distinctly [[Manga]], the characters tend to share the same grayish skin color and nearly all share the distinctive eye design.

*** Both of those series had different character designers for the human characters, while keeping Kazuma Kaneko's demon/persona designs. Kaneko is responsible for the human character designs in all the main series Shin Megami Tensei games, as well as DDS and the Raidou games.

* [[Ugly Cute]]: Some of the demons that aren't [[Our Monsters Are Different|mind-bogglingly strange]] or [[Stripperific]] demon babes could arguably qualify. Decarabia and Yatsufusa are some examples.

* [[Values Dissonance]] - The ratings for each game vary greatly by the region. ''Nocturne'' (''[[Market-Based Title|Lucifers Call]]'') and vanilla ''Persona 3'' have significant gaps between the PEGI (12+ ) and ESRB (17+ ) rating alone.

** ''Nocturne'' even got an A in Japan, which basically means suitable for everyone. Note that this game is considerably more difficult than the already difficult ''[[Digital Devil Saga]]'' and ''Persona'' sub-series, you get turned into a demon by having a snake-like parasite get ''dropped into your eye'' '''in first-person perspective''' and {{spoiler|you can become the literal [[The Antichrist|anti-Christ]] as you ''become the new General for the legions of Hell/Darkness to wage war against [[God]]''}}.

* [[Visual Effects of Awesome]] - Some of the designs for demons are truly awesome (which is why they can be downright [[Nightmare Fuel|terrifying]]). For example, [http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Beelzebub Beelzebub].