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** As its been a few years since I've seen a JLU episode with Supergirl in it, Glau didn't bother me. But what does bother me is the lack of Michael Ironside as Darkseid. Much more threatening.
** Summer Glau didn't bother me either, while I loved the voice actress of [[Supergirl]] for the DCAU...Summer Glau did a pretty good job. Heck at some points, the way she said a few of her lines, did remind me of Nicholle Tom. Besides, this version of Supergirl is [[Captain Obvious|a little bit different]] from her DCAU counterpart....
*** As we saw in [[Superman: theThe Animated Series]], Kara LOVED having Super powers, she JUMPED at the chance to be a Super hero, she found life on the farm boring, and was someone who rather go live in the City to fight crime, see new sights, and have adventures. (See the episodes "Little Lost Girl" (2 parter), "Unity", and the [[Girls Night Out|Batman/Superman episode crossover "Girls Night Out"]].)
*** But, in this movie, Kara is afraid of her powers, Kara doesn't want to fight, she didn't want to be a super hero, she just wanted to have a normal ordinary life as a girl (something DCAU Kara always hated, that [[Superman|Clark]] told her she should be), and further more-in the movie Kara expressed that she'd probably love staying on the farm (again, DCAU Kara-as much as she loved Ma and Pa Kent, and she did feel Smallville was home...she found it suffocating and boring-she wanted adventure, and she felt she wasn't gonna get that ever living on the farm as an "ordinary girl").
** So to further conclude to my point, I think Nicholle Tom and Summer Glau are great Supergirls! They each did their animated version-interpretation, of Kara ''very'' well. Summer Glau fit that [[I Just Want to Be Normal]] kind of girl we see in the movie, where as Nichole Tom fits the whole adventure-seeking girl who [[Jumped At the Call]]. And both still keep that fun, loveable, "just want to have fun" kinda girl that Supergirl has been seen as. And when the chips are down, both have displayed the true [[Determinator]] that Supergirl is. Though I do have to agree that lack of Michael Ironside was a bit upsetting. I mean after hearing Clancy Brown reprise his role in the first movie, and other previous DCAU characters (as well as [[Nightmare Fuel|freaking Ed Asner as Granny Goodness]]!) No Michael Ironside as Darkseid WAS a let down, that one bugged me more. I mean the guy who did Darkseid in this movie was good, but nowhere NEAR as intimidating, commanding, scary, threatening, or voice filled with such compelling display of RAW POWER as Michael Ironside's Darkseid. That kinda bugged me...a lot.
* Krypto. Just Krypto I know that like Batmite he's part of the legacy and there's no changing it but Superman seriously has a dog wearing a cape? For reals?
** I'll admit, it was silly, specially considering the tone both this movie and the [[Superman /Batman: Public Enemies|previous one]] had set up. But maybe they just wanted to be true to the comic book character? Maybe Superman truly ''is'' the corny Big Blue Boy Scout. Or maybe he puts it on his beloved dog Krypto, ''[[Super Dickery|knowing]]'' [[Super Dickery|it makes the dog look ridiculous]]...[[Wild Mass Guessing|or maybe-like Superman himself-Krypto has a]] [[Secret Identity]] during the day posing as [[Secret Identity|Clark Kent's]] ordinary earthly dog, but to keep his secret unknown to the public to protect his identity-as well as Superman's...[[Paper-Thin Disguise|is too]] [[Clark Kenting|put on the cape when helping Superman, because after all]], Clark Kent and Superman may look the same-but Superman doesn't wear glasses-Clark does-they can't be the same person. So by that logic-Krypto the Super Dog and Clark's dog CAN'T be the same dog! After all-Superman's pet sidekick Krypto-wears a cape just like him! Clark Kent's dog doesn't!....[[Sarcasm Mode|I bet he wears glasses too when going on walks with Clark.]]
* In the fight against the Furies, why was it okay for Barda to kill Stompa, but not Granny Goodness? Goodness deserves it far more than she does.
** She killed Stompa when she was seconds away from killing Wonder Woman, but Granny was effectively neutralized when Barda was about to kill her. For a lot of superheroes willing to kill there's still a huge gap between killing in battle and execution.
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* During the battle with the Doomsday clones Superman sees several Amazons getting killed in slow motion and this inspires him to use his laser powers to fry all the clones. He then seems to feel guilty over this. This brings up two problems. The first is that it raises the question of why he didn't do that at the beginning of the fight when he could have saved some lives<ref> and not accidentally killed any Amazons that might have been unconscious and in the line of fire</ref>. The second is that previously we clearly saw him ''freeze and smash'' at least two of the clones without hesitation while the Amazons were doing their best to stab the clones. Not only was Superman obviously willing to kill earlier, the best outcome of the battle would have been the deaths of all of the clones.
** Dude, you can't just BEHOLD, HYPER OPTIC BLAST at the start of the fight. [[Marvel vs. Capcom|You have to build meter first]]. Also I'm only slightly surprised that Superman was partly in kill mode already; we know he pulls out the stops when there's a crazy superthreat like Imperiex, or Doomsday, or Darkseid. And considering they were fighting an army of clones of the guy who once managed to kill him, well...
* Batmans...er, [[Batman Gambit]]...versus [[Darkseid]], while just about plausible, was pretty damn stupid of him. He threatened to blow up Apokolips, and if Darkseid had been thinking a little more clearly he should have realised that a) Batman probably wouldn't do it (he might not known that Batman can't bring himself to kill [[The Joker|an evil mass murdering]] [[Monster Clown]], let alone destroy an entire populated super-planet, but he should realize that he wouldn't want to kill both Superman and Supergirl along with it, which is what would happen), and b) that he had several options to deal with it. I mean, why couldn't Darkseid have just went to the room where all the bombs were and, say, vaporised them with his Omega Beams, or even better opened a Boom Tube and sent them to another planet (say, [[Revenge Byby Proxy|Earth]]- and if New Genesis complains, point out that an Earthling set the bombs, or just pick some random place to avoid the diplomatic hassle). It works insofar as Darkseid arguably couldn't take the chance and seemingly didn't know that much about Batman, but that still seems to stretch it a bit. Not to mention Batman was lucky that Darkseid chose to try and kill Superman (by himself) for revenge for this outcome- again, Darkseid could and probably should have done a lot worse to Batman and possibly Earth itself if he wanted retribution, and Kara and Superman probably wouldn't have been worth that price.
** A few major flaws here. The first is that Batman might very well have been willing to do it. Apokolips is filled with the most evil beings pretty much in existance and them adding a Kryptonian to their ranks is a big deal. It's damn hard to stop a Kryptonian, especially one backed by an army that doesn't have a certain alergy. There is no way of knowing how far away the bomb room is so Darksied may not have had the option to go there and move the bombs and that's if their still physically in the room. It's implied that the bombs have somehow burrowed into the planet.
*** Its not implied that they have burrowed anywhere- Batman specifically states they were in the armoury, and he can hardly disarm them if they are halfway to the planets core (not to mention there were 500 of them, in a nearby room- someone would have felt it). Darkseid has Boom Tubes and (for the comic version) can teleport at will, plus he could always radio an underling. Supergirl in the ranks is a big deal but tough as Kryptonians are, they aren't that much tougher than the average New God and she was only going to be part of his honour guard; Supergirl is not a game changer and Darkseid himself is a far more powerful threat anyway (nor can they use her against Earth without breaking the treaty with New Genesis), and Earth's heroes have handled far worse. And no, Batman would ''never'' blow up an entire world no matter how evil its populace (and there are plenty of innocent slaves on it anyway) and he certainly wouldn't kill Supergirl ''and'' Superman in the process, especially since the objective was to save the former. Not to mention blowing up Apokolips might rain meteoring death down on nearby New Genesis. Again if he can't even kill [[The Joker]], he's not commiting global genocide. It's just about believable since Darkseid presumably doesn't know Batman that well, but there were so many things that could have gone wrong with that plan its not even funny.
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