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* Most [[Robot War]] stories want us to sympathize with the humans. But in most every case, the humans started it, and the robots are defending themselves, if being extreme about it.

* In almost any given story where the hero argues that [[If You Kill Him You Will Be Just Like Him]], the point of the opposing side — usually that the ends justify the means and that taking one murderous life to save many innocent ones is ''nothing'' like taking many innocent lives for selfish reasons — will come off as this to a fair amount of people.

** It's also difficult to get audiences to condemn a fictional hero for acting like how we expect police officers to act IRL - i.e., be willing to shoot the bad guy if it's necessary to keep him from shooting civilians.

** It's also difficult to get audiences to condemn a fictional hero for acting like how we expect police officers to act IRL - i.e., be willing to shoot the bad guy if it's necessary to keep him from shooting civilians. There is an obvious tendency to take examples of legitimate authority figures acting in legality and with good faith as, well, legitimate role models for behavior.

* [[Conversational Troping|Conversed]] in a criticism of the [[Straw Feminist]] trope by [[Feminist Frequency]]. Anita Sarkeesian noted that while most such characters are portrayed as being always wrong, many of the actual points they made are perfectly valid, and points out that many of the writers of such characters seem to confuse real feminism with "female supremacy".