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''Haha! Guess what you were doing?''
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Sometimes in stories, two people meet and just seem destined for romance. Love blossoms in a particular way, or perhaps the two have a loveless [[Arranged Marriage]] lying in wait for them instead. But then, someone makes a startling discovery -- genetics has struck! The couple-to-be are related -- and not in the "same species" sense -- and the romance or arranged marriage is called off. The result may be either great rejoicing or great despair. If it's ''not'' called off despite the consanguinity issue, intentional [[Brother-Sister Incest]] results. Or if the two still want to be together and the author doesn't want to go the incest route, a counter-reveal may show up to prove that [[Not Blood Siblings|the genetics aren't a problem after all]].
Sometimes in stories, two people meet and just seem destined for romance. Love blossoms in a particular way, or perhaps the two have a loveless [[Arranged Marriage]] lying in wait for them instead. But then, someone makes a startling discovery—genetics has struck! The couple-to-be are related—and not in the "same species" sense—and the romance or arranged marriage is called off. The result may be either great rejoicing or great despair. If it's ''not'' called off despite the consanguinity issue, intentional [[Brother-Sister Incest]] results. Or if the two still want to be together and the author doesn't want to go the incest route, a counter-reveal may show up to prove that [[Not Blood Siblings|the genetics aren't a problem after all]].


These days, many people are [[Squick|squicked]] out by this, so the characters often find out ''before'' they tie the knot/do the nasty. This wasn't always the case; Oedipus was very happily (but unknowingly) married to his own mother for many years and had several kids with her before things fell apart (to the extent that [[The Reveal]] resulted in Oedipus's mother killing herself and Oedipus himself stabbing his own eyes out), so this is [[Older Than Feudalism]]. Still, this trope is surprisingly common in [[Anime]] and [[Manga]], as well as other Japanese entertainment, due to much more relaxed views on the subject in Japan.
These days, many people are [[squick]]ed out by this, so the characters often find out ''before'' they tie the knot/do the nasty. This wasn't always the case; Oedipus was very happily (but unknowingly) married to his own mother for many years and had several kids with her before things fell apart (to the extent that [[The Reveal]] resulted in Oedipus's mother killing herself and Oedipus himself stabbing his own eyes out), so this is [[Older Than Feudalism]]. Still, this trope is surprisingly common in [[Anime]] and [[Manga]], as well as other Japanese entertainment, due to much more relaxed views on the subject in Japan.


The surprise relationship is usually either brother/sister, half-siblings, parent/child (much rarer these days than it was in ancient Greece), or, very rarely, uncle/niece or aunt/nephew. Cousins are only borderline [[Squick|squicky]] since marriage between cousins is actually legal in some regions, and is quite acceptable in many romance novels. In fact, in the ''[[Arabian Nights]]'', a man will call a woman he loves or is married to "daughter of my uncle", because in that time marriage between cousins was considered the best option! Because of this, it almost never appears as a plot point since it's a little too close for some folks to be comfortable, but not close enough that the plot demands the relationship break up.
The surprise relationship is usually either brother/sister, half-siblings, parent/child (much rarer these days than it was in ancient Greece), or, very rarely, uncle/niece or aunt/nephew. Cousins are only borderline [[squick]]y since marriage between cousins is actually legal in some regions, and is quite acceptable in many romance novels. In fact, in the ''[[Arabian Nights]]'', a man will call a woman he loves or is married to "daughter of my uncle", because in that time marriage between cousins was considered the best option! Because of this, it almost never appears as a plot point since it's a little too close for some folks to be comfortable, but not close enough that the plot demands the relationship break up.


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* It may never have been revealed to the characters, but [[Elf Quest|Cutter]] once got it on with Kahvi during a pre-battle orgy, and Kahvi takes up with him while Cutter's family is lost in time, though it doesn't really work out. Much later, readers learned that Kahvi is the daughter of former Wolfriders chief Two-Spear. Cutter is a direct descendant of Two-Spear's half-sister, Huntress Skyfire, making Kahvi his cousin four times removed. Which, especially considering the small gene pool of the Wolfriders, isn't spectacularly close. And with Recognition preventing conception for any but good genetic combinations, the elves may not ''have'' an incest taboo.
* It may never have been revealed to the characters, but [[Elf Quest|Cutter]] once got it on with Kahvi during a pre-battle orgy, and Kahvi takes up with him while Cutter's family is lost in time, though it doesn't really work out. Much later, readers learned that Kahvi is the daughter of former Wolfriders chief Two-Spear. Cutter is a direct descendant of Two-Spear's half-sister, Huntress Skyfire, making Kahvi his cousin four times removed. Which, especially considering the small gene pool of the Wolfriders, isn't spectacularly close. And with Recognition preventing conception for any but good genetic combinations, the elves may not ''have'' an incest taboo.
** Also, if one looks at Scouter/Tyleet's relationship, you'll realize they're 2nd cousins (Brothers Longbranch and One-Eye, Longbranch sires Nightfall, One-Eye sires Scouter, Nightfall has Tyleet, Scouter and Tyleet Recognize). It makes sense, however, that such in-pairings will happen in such a small tribe- so yes, Recognition probably does take care of the biggest problem with incest. Thankfully, however, we haven't been subjected to any -closer- pairings...
** Also, if one looks at Scouter/Tyleet's relationship, you'll realize they're 2nd cousins (Brothers Longbranch and One-Eye, Longbranch sires Nightfall, One-Eye sires Scouter, Nightfall has Tyleet, Scouter and Tyleet Recognize). It makes sense, however, that such in-pairings will happen in such a small tribe- so yes, Recognition probably does take care of the biggest problem with incest. Thankfully, however, we haven't been subjected to any -closer- pairings...
* In the [[Marvel Universe]], Kurt Wagner/Nightcrawler finds out that his then-girlfriend is {{spoiler|his adoptive sister in magical disguise.}} This wouldn't have been so [[Squick|squicky]] except for two things: 1) He kept dating her anyway; and 2) She knew the whole time.
* In the [[Marvel Universe]], Kurt Wagner/Nightcrawler finds out that his then-girlfriend is {{spoiler|his adoptive sister in magical disguise.}} This wouldn't have been so [[squick]]y except for two things: 1) He kept dating her anyway; and 2) She knew the whole time.
* A story arc in ''[[The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers]]'' has Fat Freddy looking for his old home in Cleveland, broke, hungry, and bemoaning his perpetual bad luck. Just then, to his delight, a cute girl appears, befriends him, takes him home, feeds him, and joins him in the bathtub. A car pulls in and she warns "Here come my parents!" - Freddy sees them and exclaims "Holy Toledo, these are ''my'' parents too!"
* A story arc in ''[[The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers]]'' has Fat Freddy looking for his old home in Cleveland, broke, hungry, and bemoaning his perpetual bad luck. Just then, to his delight, a cute girl appears, befriends him, takes him home, feeds him, and joins him in the bathtub. A car pulls in and she warns "Here come my parents!" - Freddy sees them and exclaims "Holy Toledo, these are ''my'' parents too!"


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* ''[[Star Wars]]''. Yes, ''Star Wars''. Media such as [[Marvel Star Wars]] and [[Splinter of the Minds Eye]], produced before Lucas decided Luke and Leia were twins, makes it explicit that they're mutually very interested, but in ''Splinter'' neither of them is aware that the other feels the same, and in [[Marvel Star Wars]] being interrupted every time their relationship goes beyond declarations of friendship and [[Holding Hands|hand-holding]] is a [[Running Gag]]. Said gag might have been a continuation of [http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/swcs/episode5/mask.html a scene] cut from [[The Empire Strikes Back]].
* ''[[Star Wars]]''. Yes, ''Star Wars''. Media such as [[Marvel Star Wars]] and [[Splinter of the Minds Eye]], produced before Lucas decided Luke and Leia were twins, makes it explicit that they're mutually very interested, but in ''Splinter'' neither of them is aware that the other feels the same, and in [[Marvel Star Wars]] being interrupted every time their relationship goes beyond declarations of friendship and [[Holding Hands|hand-holding]] is a [[Running Gag]]. Said gag might have been a continuation of [http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/swcs/episode5/mask.html a scene] cut from [[The Empire Strikes Back]].
* In ''[[A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum|A Fvnny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forvm]]'', the heroine is a virgin slavegirl arranged to be sold/married off to the Roman general responsible for having destroyed the land where she grew up. She is somewhat reluctant to marry even before she falls in True Love with the hero. But everything ends happily when a set of matching rings proves the general and his perspective bride are long-list siblings, enabling the hero and heroine to marry.
* In ''[[A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum|A Fvnny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forvm]]'', the heroine is a virgin slavegirl arranged to be sold/married off to the Roman general responsible for having destroyed the land where she grew up. She is somewhat reluctant to marry even before she falls in True Love with the hero. But everything ends happily when a set of matching rings proves the general and his perspective bride are long-list siblings, enabling the hero and heroine to marry.
* An extremely [[Squick|squicky]] reversal in ''[[Cave Dwellers|Ator The Fighting Eagle]]'': Ator and his sister Sunya are "in love" and want to marry, only later to find out that Ator was adopted, meaning they aren't siblings at all and can now safely marry. The [[Squick]] comes from the fact that they had fully [[Brother-Sister Incest|planned to marry]] even before they learned of Ator's adoption.
* An extremely [[squick]]y reversal in ''[[Cave Dwellers|Ator The Fighting Eagle]]'': Ator and his sister Sunya are "in love" and want to marry, only later to find out that Ator was adopted, meaning they aren't siblings at all and can now safely marry. The [[Squick]] comes from the fact that they had fully [[Brother-Sister Incest|planned to marry]] even before they learned of Ator's adoption.
* Parodied in ''[[Back to the Future (film)|Back to The Future]]'' (see above quote) where Marty knows that young Lorraine will be his mother, but she doesn't, so she pursues him romantically to his great dismay. She seems to develop some kind of supernatural sixth sense pertaining this as she kisses him, claiming it felt like kissing her own brother.
* Parodied in ''[[Back to the Future (film)|Back to The Future]]'' (see above quote) where Marty knows that young Lorraine will be his mother, but she doesn't, so she pursues him romantically to his great dismay. She seems to develop some kind of supernatural sixth sense pertaining this as she kisses him, claiming it felt like kissing her own brother.
** Which leads you to wonder how she knew what kissing her brother open-mouth-style felt like..
** Which leads you to wonder how she knew what kissing her brother open-mouth-style felt like..
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* The major couple in ''[[The Beastmaster]]'' turn out to be cousins, though not one person ever remarks on this. Considering that she's described as his half-brother's cousin, maybe they're [[Not Blood Siblings|not blood cousins]] after all. She could always be the niece of the king's second wife.
* The major couple in ''[[The Beastmaster]]'' turn out to be cousins, though not one person ever remarks on this. Considering that she's described as his half-brother's cousin, maybe they're [[Not Blood Siblings|not blood cousins]] after all. She could always be the niece of the king's second wife.
* The Japanese film ''[[Bubble He No Go]]'' has a father sending his daughter (who doesn't know he's her father) back in time some 20 years to find her mother, only to find her younger father instead, who tries to shag her, but she refuses, only to almost give in but then he shortly before realizes that... and so on.
* The Japanese film ''[[Bubble He No Go]]'' has a father sending his daughter (who doesn't know he's her father) back in time some 20 years to find her mother, only to find her younger father instead, who tries to shag her, but she refuses, only to almost give in but then he shortly before realizes that... and so on.
* Parodied in ''[[Joe Dirt]]''--in Joe's quest for his lost family, he finds and goes out with an attractive girl who he realizes afterwards was his sister, goes back to tell her and explain why he can't date her (and probably ask her for information), but somehow gets seduced into sleeping with her, ''then'' tells her his suspicion. She then explains why she couldn't possibly be his sister, and that they can make love again. Joe puts on a mischievous face and the camera cuts back to the outside of the house... as nothing happens.
* Parodied in ''[[Joe Dirt]]''—in Joe's quest for his lost family, he finds and goes out with an attractive girl who he realizes afterwards was his sister, goes back to tell her and explain why he can't date her (and probably ask her for information), but somehow gets seduced into sleeping with her, ''then'' tells her his suspicion. She then explains why she couldn't possibly be his sister, and that they can make love again. Joe puts on a mischievous face and the camera cuts back to the outside of the house... as nothing happens.
{{quote|'''Jill''': Would it help if you went back to thinking I'm your sister?
{{quote|'''Jill''': Would it help if you went back to thinking I'm your sister?
'''Joe''': What?! Like I'm some sort of white-trash perv?!
'''Joe''': What?! Like I'm some sort of white-trash perv?!
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* In ''[[Lone Star]]'' {{spoiler|two characters that had dated in high school over their parents' STRONG objections reconnect as adults. They later find a photograph of his dad and her mom and realize why their parents were so opposed to them dating, namely, that they're half-siblings. But they're very much in love and she says that, due to complications in her last pregnancy, she can no longer have children. It's implied that they will stay together.}}
* In ''[[Lone Star]]'' {{spoiler|two characters that had dated in high school over their parents' STRONG objections reconnect as adults. They later find a photograph of his dad and her mom and realize why their parents were so opposed to them dating, namely, that they're half-siblings. But they're very much in love and she says that, due to complications in her last pregnancy, she can no longer have children. It's implied that they will stay together.}}
* In ''[[Tromeo and Juliet]]'', the eponymous pair find out at the end they're brother and sister, but decide to get married anyway. In true Troma fashion, they have hideously deformed kids.
* In ''[[Tromeo and Juliet]]'', the eponymous pair find out at the end they're brother and sister, but decide to get married anyway. In true Troma fashion, they have hideously deformed kids.
* Kind of inverted in ''[[Meet the Robinsons]]''. Louis goes to the future, spends time with the Robinson family, and begins to see Franny as a bit of a mother figure (Even actually calling her mom and almost being adopted by her at one point) before finding out that {{spoiler|she is actually his future wife}}. One wonders how he wasn't the least bit [[Squick|squicked]] out when {{spoiler|he meets her for the "first time" in the past.}}
* Kind of inverted in ''[[Meet the Robinsons]]''. Louis goes to the future, spends time with the Robinson family, and begins to see Franny as a bit of a mother figure (Even actually calling her mom and almost being adopted by her at one point) before finding out that {{spoiler|she is actually his future wife}}. One wonders how he wasn't the least bit [[squick]]ed out when {{spoiler|he meets her for the "first time" in the past.}}
* In the film ''[[Jean De Florette]]'' Papet and his nephew Ugolin drive a hunchback to his death in order to get his land. In the sequel ''[[Manon of the Spring]]'' {{spoiler|Ugolin sees the hunchback's daughter Manon bathing in a pond and falls desperately in love with her. He commits suicide when she rejects him. At the end his uncle Papet learns that Manon's father was his long-lost son. That means Ugolin was in love his own niece.}}
* In the film ''[[Jean De Florette]]'' Papet and his nephew Ugolin drive a hunchback to his death in order to get his land. In the sequel ''[[Manon of the Spring]]'' {{spoiler|Ugolin sees the hunchback's daughter Manon bathing in a pond and falls desperately in love with her. He commits suicide when she rejects him. At the end his uncle Papet learns that Manon's father was his long-lost son. That means Ugolin was in love his own niece.}}
* In the Michael J. Fox film, ''[[The Secret Of My Success]],'' Brantley is asked to escort the wife of his boss to her country home. She takes an immediate liking to him and convinces him to [[Two-Person Pool Party|stay for a swim, which leads to her seducing him.]] Not long after, Brantley realizes that she is his Aunt Vera (by marriage, as his boss is his blood-related uncle, Mr. Prescott). Brantley is disgusted, but Vera isn't - [[Squick|she later pursues him sexually.]]
* In the Michael J. Fox film, ''[[The Secret Of My Success]],'' Brantley is asked to escort the wife of his boss to her country home. She takes an immediate liking to him and convinces him to [[Two-Person Pool Party|stay for a swim, which leads to her seducing him.]] Not long after, Brantley realizes that she is his Aunt Vera (by marriage, as his boss is his blood-related uncle, Mr. Prescott). Brantley is disgusted, but Vera isn't - [[Squick|she later pursues him sexually.]]
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* In ''[[One Hundred Years of Solitude]]'', the biggest fear of the matriarch Ursula is that some of their descendants born with a pig's tail, in the fear that it could be the end of both her family and the town. This finally happen long time after her death, when the last members of the family, Amaranta Ursula and Aureliano Buendía, {{spoiler|aunt and nephew respectively,}} mate and give birth a pig-tailed baby {{spoiler|who is eaten by ants, after his mother dies in childbirth and his father forgot to take care of him because of his deep grief}}. Both lovers were unaware of their real relation, and Aureliano Buendía only discovers it in the last page of the novel, {{spoiler|just seconds before the destruction of the town}}.
* In ''[[One Hundred Years of Solitude]]'', the biggest fear of the matriarch Ursula is that some of their descendants born with a pig's tail, in the fear that it could be the end of both her family and the town. This finally happen long time after her death, when the last members of the family, Amaranta Ursula and Aureliano Buendía, {{spoiler|aunt and nephew respectively,}} mate and give birth a pig-tailed baby {{spoiler|who is eaten by ants, after his mother dies in childbirth and his father forgot to take care of him because of his deep grief}}. Both lovers were unaware of their real relation, and Aureliano Buendía only discovers it in the last page of the novel, {{spoiler|just seconds before the destruction of the town}}.
* In Poppy Z. Brite's novel, ''Lost Souls'', a teenage runaway called Nothing meets up with a trio of real vampires led by the captivating Zillah, and becomes Zillah's lover. Halfway through the novel, it's revealed that {{spoiler|Zillah is Nothing's father}}.
* In Poppy Z. Brite's novel, ''Lost Souls'', a teenage runaway called Nothing meets up with a trio of real vampires led by the captivating Zillah, and becomes Zillah's lover. Halfway through the novel, it's revealed that {{spoiler|Zillah is Nothing's father}}.
* Though this editor is not sure it's ''ever'' explicitly explained, ''Thieves' World'' [[Badass|badasses]] Tempus and Cime seem to be brother and sister and seem to be laboring under various curses related to this (or effects of mitigators). It seems to have driven them both [[Axe Crazy]], though in different ways.
* Though this editor is not sure it's ''ever'' explicitly explained, ''Thieves' World'' [[badass]]es Tempus and Cime seem to be brother and sister and seem to be laboring under various curses related to this (or effects of mitigators). It seems to have driven them both [[Axe Crazy]], though in different ways.
** Stated in Janet Morris' ''A Man and His God'', they are definitely brother and sister.
** Stated in Janet Morris' ''A Man and His God'', they are definitely brother and sister.
* In the novel ''The Shadow of the Wind'', Julian, an illegitimate child who doesn't know who his father is, has a secret relationship with {{spoiler|Penelope, the daughter of a rich man who mysteriously decided to take Julian in and pay for his education}}. It is, however, not until years later, {{spoiler|long after Penelope has died giving birth to Julian's child}}, that he learns that she was actually his half-sister.
* In the novel ''The Shadow of the Wind'', Julian, an illegitimate child who doesn't know who his father is, has a secret relationship with {{spoiler|Penelope, the daughter of a rich man who mysteriously decided to take Julian in and pay for his education}}. It is, however, not until years later, {{spoiler|long after Penelope has died giving birth to Julian's child}}, that he learns that she was actually his half-sister.
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* In ''[[The Nanny]]'', Fran finally meets a guy who seems absolutely perfect for her: Jewish, a doctor, and understands her. At Fran's cousin's wedding, they see each other, and kiss. Cue Fran's mother...
* In ''[[The Nanny]]'', Fran finally meets a guy who seems absolutely perfect for her: Jewish, a doctor, and understands her. At Fran's cousin's wedding, they see each other, and kiss. Cue Fran's mother...
{{quote|'''Sylvia:''' Oh, Fran, I see you've met your cousin.
{{quote|'''Sylvia:''' Oh, Fran, I see you've met your cousin.
''(Fran and said cousin immediately jump apart, looking thoroughly [[Squick|Squicked]])'' }}
''(Fran and said cousin immediately jump apart, looking thoroughly [[Squick]]ed)'' }}
* ''[[Bored to Death]]'', {{spoiler|Jonathon and his girlfriend find out they're half-siblings.}} Left unresolved due to cancellation.
* ''[[Bored to Death]]'', {{spoiler|Jonathon and his girlfriend find out they're half-siblings.}} Left unresolved due to cancellation.
* In one episode of ''[[Boy Meets World]]'', Eric hooks up with a girl at a [[It Makes Sense in Context|combined school rave/parents' anniversary party]] who turns out to be his cousin. While they didn't get anywhere, he's still thoroughly squicked at the situation.
* In one episode of ''[[Boy Meets World]]'', Eric hooks up with a girl at a [[It Makes Sense in Context|combined school rave/parents' anniversary party]] who turns out to be his cousin. While they didn't get anywhere, he's still thoroughly squicked at the situation.
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How it turned you on just knowing it's a sin }}
How it turned you on just knowing it's a sin }}
* Mentioned in the [["Weird Al" Yankovic]] song, ''A Complicated Song'' - "How was I supposed to know / we were both related? (I tell you if I) / Knew she was my cousin / we never would have dated".
* Mentioned in the [["Weird Al" Yankovic]] song, ''A Complicated Song'' - "How was I supposed to know / we were both related? (I tell you if I) / Knew she was my cousin / we never would have dated".
* The song "Son Don't Go Near the Indians"- The whole time the main character of the Western song is told "Son don't go near the Indians, please stay away." Reverse psychology plays its part, and he goes near the Indians--a lot. He falls in love with a girl there about his age. Near the end, they resolve to get married. Only then does his father explain that his actual son got killed by the Indians, so he stole one of their baby boys, the protagonist, and that his girlfriend is his sister. "And that's why I've always said--'Son, don't go near the Indians, please stay away'"
* The song "Son Don't Go Near the Indians"- The whole time the main character of the Western song is told "Son don't go near the Indians, please stay away." Reverse psychology plays its part, and he goes near the Indians—a lot. He falls in love with a girl there about his age. Near the end, they resolve to get married. Only then does his father explain that his actual son got killed by the Indians, so he stole one of their baby boys, the protagonist, and that his girlfriend is his sister. "And that's why I've always said--'Son, don't go near the Indians, please stay away'"
** Subverted in the related song (most likely a parody) "Son Don't Go Near the Eskimo" which leads the listener to suspect a similar conclusion, making the big reveal (the girlfriend is not his sister, but she has "the coldest nose in Alaska") somewhat anticlimactic.
** Subverted in the related song (most likely a parody) "Son Don't Go Near the Eskimo" which leads the listener to suspect a similar conclusion, making the big reveal (the girlfriend is not his sister, but she has "the coldest nose in Alaska") somewhat anticlimactic.
* In the folk song "I'm My Own Grandpa," the narrator marries an older woman with an adult daughter. The narrator's father then marries the daughter, making the son's stepdaughter his stepmother. Because the narrator is married to his stepmother's mother, he has become his own step-grandfather. Not actually incest, either.
* In the folk song "I'm My Own Grandpa," the narrator marries an older woman with an adult daughter. The narrator's father then marries the daughter, making the son's stepdaughter his stepmother. Because the narrator is married to his stepmother's mother, he has become his own step-grandfather. Not actually incest, either.
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== Mythology ==
== Mythology ==
* Oedipus' story in [[Greek Mythology]] is particularly [[Squick|squicktastic]] since he unknowingly married his own mother. They only learned the truth years ''after'' having four kids together.
* Oedipus' story in [[Greek Mythology]] is particularly [[squick]]tastic since he unknowingly married his own mother. They only learned the truth years ''after'' having four kids together.




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* In the [[Visual Novel]] ''[[Ever 17]]'', {{spoiler|Sara}} is pretty clearly attracted to {{spoiler|the Kid}}, and vice versa... until it turns out that they're long-lost siblings, at which point they switch gears surprisingly smoothly into a platonic relationship, without so much as a moment of disgust over having flirted.
* In the [[Visual Novel]] ''[[Ever 17]]'', {{spoiler|Sara}} is pretty clearly attracted to {{spoiler|the Kid}}, and vice versa... until it turns out that they're long-lost siblings, at which point they switch gears surprisingly smoothly into a platonic relationship, without so much as a moment of disgust over having flirted.
* In the ''[[Baldur's Gate]]'' series, Imoen and the main character (if he's male) have the sort of sorta flirty relationship you'd expect from lifelong friends of opposing genders. For that matter, if the main character's female they have the sorta flirty relationship you'd expect from lifelong friends [[Girls Love|of that sort]]. When ''Baldur's Gate II'' was released and Imoen was not one of the characters with whom you could pursue a romantic relationship, a lot of fans of the original were very surprised and rather disappointed... until {{spoiler|you found out that Imoen was your half-sister}}.
* In the ''[[Baldur's Gate]]'' series, Imoen and the main character (if he's male) have the sort of sorta flirty relationship you'd expect from lifelong friends of opposing genders. For that matter, if the main character's female they have the sorta flirty relationship you'd expect from lifelong friends [[Girls Love|of that sort]]. When ''Baldur's Gate II'' was released and Imoen was not one of the characters with whom you could pursue a romantic relationship, a lot of fans of the original were very surprised and rather disappointed... until {{spoiler|you found out that Imoen was your half-sister}}.
** This is actually brought up in ''Throne Of Bhaal'', the expansion to ''[[Baldur's Gate]] II'', if the main character's male. Viconia insists to Imoen that given the number of times he's saved her life, she should serve him in ''every'' way. Imoen acts [[Squick|squicked]] and cites why. Viconia brushes it off, pointing out that the common heritage would hardly one of ''blood''. Imoen then notes that, canonically by that point, the main character has saved ''Viconia'''s life at ''least'' twice...
** This is actually brought up in ''Throne Of Bhaal'', the expansion to ''[[Baldur's Gate]] II'', if the main character's male. Viconia insists to Imoen that given the number of times he's saved her life, she should serve him in ''every'' way. Imoen acts [[squick]]ed and cites why. Viconia brushes it off, pointing out that the common heritage would hardly one of ''blood''. Imoen then notes that, canonically by that point, the main character has saved ''Viconia'''s life at ''least'' twice...
** Some people tried to do a mod that allows this relationship; the Imoen Romance mod for ''Baldur's Gate II'' is alive and well, and is widely known for near-total freedom of choice in the protagonist's options (ranging from true love to [[Complete Monster]]). Imoen is romanceable by both males and females, and to the mod's credit, does not shy away from the incest issue--Imoen in particular has issues with it.
** Some people tried to do a mod that allows this relationship; the Imoen Romance mod for ''Baldur's Gate II'' is alive and well, and is widely known for near-total freedom of choice in the protagonist's options (ranging from true love to [[Complete Monster]]). Imoen is romanceable by both males and females, and to the mod's credit, does not shy away from the incest issue—Imoen in particular has issues with it.
* Where to start with ''[[Fire Emblem]]'', well Genealogy of the Holy War is king, so lets start with it. Two of the biggest examples are Celice and Yuria; upon meeting they seem instantly attracted to each other, but it turns out that {{spoiler|Yuria is Celice's inbreed half-sister, as Celice's mother was brain washed and forced to breed with her (also brainwashed) half-brother}}. In the first half, Claude's most popular pairing is with Sylvia, who is hinted to be his long-lost sister but said by [[Word of God]] to be a distant cousin.
* Where to start with ''[[Fire Emblem]]'', well Genealogy of the Holy War is king, so lets start with it. Two of the biggest examples are Celice and Yuria; upon meeting they seem instantly attracted to each other, but it turns out that {{spoiler|Yuria is Celice's inbreed half-sister, as Celice's mother was brain washed and forced to breed with her (also brainwashed) half-brother}}. In the first half, Claude's most popular pairing is with Sylvia, who is hinted to be his long-lost sister but said by [[Word of God]] to be a distant cousin.
* Shows up occasionally in fanworks made with ''[[The Sims]] 2'': unattended children can be taken away by a social worker, and then adopted into a different family. The adoption code nukes the family connection to the birth parents and creates one with the adoptive parent(s). Some players have used this loophole to have siblings, and twins, adopted into different families, strike up romances. Since there's no genetic penalty for incest, they can even have kids. [http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,11779.0.html Read all about it].
* Shows up occasionally in fanworks made with ''[[The Sims]] 2'': unattended children can be taken away by a social worker, and then adopted into a different family. The adoption code nukes the family connection to the birth parents and creates one with the adoptive parent(s). Some players have used this loophole to have siblings, and twins, adopted into different families, strike up romances. Since there's no genetic penalty for incest, they can even have kids. [http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,11779.0.html Read all about it].
* In the PSX RPG ''[[Dragon Valor]]'', where one of the two possible final generations of Dragon Valors are always a twincestuous pair of brother-and-sister twins.
* In the PSX RPG ''[[Dragon Valor]]'', where one of the two possible final generations of Dragon Valors are always a twincestuous pair of brother-and-sister twins.
* In the [[PlayStation 2]] adventure game ''[[Drakengard]]'' , where it is central to the entire plot, even if the English language version of the game has been [[Bowdlerize|Bowdlerized]] into omitting all but two direct references to incest.
* In the [[PlayStation 2]] adventure game ''[[Drakengard]]'' , where it is central to the entire plot, even if the English language version of the game has been [[Bowdlerize]]d into omitting all but two direct references to incest.
* In the [[PlayStation 2]] adventure game ''[[Shadow of Destiny]]'', with Eike and Dana living happily ever after, despite secretly being biologically father-and-daughter, in Ending E.
* In the [[PlayStation 2]] adventure game ''[[Shadow of Destiny]]'', with Eike and Dana living happily ever after, despite secretly being biologically father-and-daughter, in Ending E.
** Well, there's a reason why it's one of the worst endings. And Dana seems to be at least subconsciously aware of the connection on some level and is bothered by it.
** Well, there's a reason why it's one of the worst endings. And Dana seems to be at least subconsciously aware of the connection on some level and is bothered by it.