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*** To take it to an even greater extreme, the Grey Knights use a storm bolter, which is similar to having two bolters ''in one hand''. To reiterate, a boltgun is the main infantry weapon of the setting's Super Soldiers, and these guys have a double-barreled version of them in one hand, and a goddamn halberd in the other. [[Up to Eleven]] indeed.
*** To take it to an even greater extreme, the Grey Knights use a storm bolter, which is similar to having two bolters ''in one hand''. To reiterate, a boltgun is the main infantry weapon of the setting's Super Soldiers, and these guys have a double-barreled version of them in one hand, and a goddamn halberd in the other. [[Up to Eleven]] indeed.
**** Both the Grey Knights, and all Space Marine Terminators, use storm bolters—which are weapons in their own right. Their traitorous brethren, the Chaos Space Marine Terminators, use the older design—which ''is'' two bolters strapped together.
**** Both the Grey Knights, and all Space Marine Terminators, use storm bolters—which are weapons in their own right. Their traitorous brethren, the Chaos Space Marine Terminators, use the older design—which ''is'' two bolters strapped together.
** A stereotypical [[The Political Officer|Commissar]] brandishes a chainsword, bolt pistol or both.
* In ''[[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]] Fantasy Battle'' the Empire, the Skaven and Dwarfs can do this. For dwarfs it's the only way many of their characters can get "two hand weapons"; Skaven can do this together with a tail weapon.
* In ''[[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]] Fantasy Battle'' the Empire, the Skaven and Dwarfs can do this. For dwarfs it's the only way many of their characters can get "two hand weapons"; Skaven can do this together with a tail weapon.
* The Master Privateer in ''The [[Star Wars]] Roleplaying Game: Saga Edition'' has a series of three talents for this. When you have all three of these talents, you have the ability to move and make up to 6 attacks in the same round (three with each weapon). Oh, and the melee weapon can be a two-handed (and thus more powerful) one like a vibro-ax.
* The Master Privateer in ''The [[Star Wars]] Roleplaying Game: Saga Edition'' has a series of three talents for this. When you have all three of these talents, you have the ability to move and make up to 6 attacks in the same round (three with each weapon). Oh, and the melee weapon can be a two-handed (and thus more powerful) one like a vibro-ax.
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== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==

* ''[[Devil May Cry]]'' does this with [[Badass Abnormal|Nero]] in the fourth game, who wields the sword Red Queen in his left hand, and switches his double-barreled [[Revolvers Are Just Better|revolver]] [[Hand Cannon|Blue Rose]] over to the other (when he's not using the [[Red Right Hand|Devil Bringer]] to grapple and make enemies [[Mortal Kombat|"GET OVER HERE!"]]) to perform charged shots, in contrast to Dante's [[Guns Akimbo]] style.
* ''[[Devil May Cry]]'' does this with [[Badass Abnormal|Nero]] in the fourth game, who wields the sword Red Queen in his left hand, and switches his double-barreled [[Revolvers Are Just Better|revolver]] [[Hand Cannon|Blue Rose]] over to the other (when he's not using the [[Red Right Hand|Devil Bringer]] to grapple and make enemies [[Mortal Kombat|"GET OVER HERE!"]]) to perform charged shots, in contrast to Dante's [[Guns Akimbo]] style.
** Nero actually shoots with his right hand ''for'' said charged shots, as the 'charge' is demonic energy that, oddly enough, comes from his [[Red Right Hand|Devil Bringer right arm]].
** Nero actually shoots with his right hand ''for'' said charged shots, as the 'charge' is demonic energy that, oddly enough, comes from his [[Red Right Hand|Devil Bringer right arm]].
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* [[MAG-ISA]] -- [http://mag-isa.thecomicseries.com/comics/pl/119796 Kyle] has a gun on the left hand and a sword on the right hand.
* [[MAG-ISA]] -- [http://mag-isa.thecomicseries.com/comics/pl/119796 Kyle] has a gun on the left hand and a sword on the right hand.
* In ''[[Galactic Maximum]]'', [http://maximumcomic.com/?strip_id=1 during the initial fight.]
* In ''[[Galactic Maximum]]'', [http://maximumcomic.com/?strip_id=1 during the initial fight.]
* In ''[[Girl Genius]]'', we see [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20040702 Klaus Wulfenbach fighting like this] (along with a [[Badass Bandolier|bandolier of gas grenades]]). Also, [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20120611 Ruxala] quickly switches between blade and handgun, and possibly [[The Hunter|the Vespiary Squads]] in general - or at least that's all we have seen them carry (Sergeant Scorp has [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20061027 his fancy gun] and [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20061030 short sword] and Tarvek took from another guy a knife and gun small enough to just pocket it). The Wulfenbach "Stealth Fighters" are uniformly armed with (poisoned) dirks and pistols.




== Real Life ==
== Real Life ==
* Pistol originated as a knightly weapon. After abandoning the lance in the 16th century, knights took pistol as their primary weapon. The favoured tactics was either caracole (counter-march on horseback) or attacking the enemy in gallop, and shooting two pistols at the enemy without re-loading at close distance and then hitting him with sword.
* Pistol originated as a knightly weapon. The pike formations countered cavalry charges, thus cavalry pistols and carbines became the preferred way of breaking infantry formations. After abandoning the lance in the 16th century, knights took pistol as their primary weapon. The favoured tactics was either caracole (counter-march on horseback) or attacking the enemy in gallop, and shooting two pistols at the enemy without re-loading at close distance and then hitting him with sword.
* [[Thirty Years' War]] Finnish ''hakkapeliittas'', who were armed with two pistols and sword. They attacked the enemy in full gallop, with shooting him at close distance and then drawing the sword.
* [[Thirty Years' War]] Finnish ''hakkapeliittas'', who were armed with two pistols and sword. They attacked the enemy in full gallop, with shooting him at close distance and then drawing the sword.
* The first revolvers were designed to be held in the left hand, specifically with the cavalry in mind, who would have held their swords in the right. US Army pistol holsters from that era are all designed to be worn on the right for a cross-draw using the left hand. The reason was the pistol was considered secondary to the saber.
* Golden Age pirates, most famously Blackbeard, would carry both a sword and multiple loaded pistols on their person. Blackbeard tended to carry as many as he could manage, even adding extra pockets to his clothes just to make room for more.
* Golden Age pirates, most famously Blackbeard, would carry both a sword and multiple loaded pistols on their person. Blackbeard tended to carry as many as he could manage, even adding extra pockets to his clothes just to make room for more.
* During the American Civil War, this was actually very common. Officers, whether actually in the cavalry or not, had the trappings of cavalry due to military history stretching back to the concept of knighthood. As such, while the rank and file had rifles with bayonets, officers were outfitted with revolvers and sabres. To see a cinematic example of how this can be both effective and awesome in the context of warfare that sits at the transition between pitched battles on open fields and WWI trenches, see ''[[Glory]]''.
* During the American Civil War, this was actually very common. Officers, whether actually in the cavalry or not, had the trappings of cavalry due to military history stretching back to the concept of knighthood. As such, while the rank and file had rifles with bayonets, officers were outfitted with revolvers and sabres. To see a cinematic example of how this can be both effective and awesome in the context of warfare that sits at the transition between pitched battles on open fields and WWI trenches, see ''[[Glory]]''.
** The first revolvers were designed to be held in the left hand, specifically with the cavalry in mind, who would have held their swords in the right. US Army pistol holsters from that era are all designed to be worn on the right for a cross-draw using the left hand. The reason was the pistol was considered secondary to the saber.
* Not surprising considering how many songs mention it, but highwaymen often carried both sword and pistol.
* Not surprising considering how many songs mention it, but highwaymen often carried both sword and pistol.
* The French elite warriors, the musketeers were skilled with both muskets and rapiers. It is somewhat humorous that they are now famous for their swordwork, when at the time it was their guns that made them famous (hence they're called musketeers).
* The French elite warriors, the musketeers were skilled with both muskets and rapiers. It is somewhat humorous that they are now famous for their swordwork, when at the time it was their guns that made them famous (hence they're called musketeers).