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** Tony Stark went through a serious alcohol problem in the comics, which was treated realistically and respectfully. But thanks to [[Never Live It Down]], this is the default portrayal of him in other media. In [[The Movie]], nearly every scene that's not a fight scene has him drinking an alcoholic beverage of some sort. As the sequel was partially an adaptation of the storyline ''dealing'' with the drinking problem, it was [[Foreshadowing]].
** Tony Stark went through a serious alcohol problem in the comics, which was treated realistically and respectfully. But thanks to [[Never Live It Down]], this is the default portrayal of him in other media. In [[The Movie]], nearly every scene that's not a fight scene has him drinking an alcoholic beverage of some sort. As the sequel was partially an adaptation of the storyline ''dealing'' with the drinking problem, it was [[Foreshadowing]].
** Stark helped Carol Danvers (aka Ms. Marvel, Binary and Warbird) get a handle on her drinking problem. The Ultimate version takes this to the Ultimate extreme. A prime example is this dialogue between Black Widow and Stark:
** Stark helped Carol Danvers (aka Ms. Marvel, Binary and Warbird) get a handle on her drinking problem. The Ultimate version takes this to the Ultimate extreme. A prime example is this dialogue between Black Widow and Stark:
{{quote| "Listen... but do you really think it is wise to knock back so many vodkas before you fly that thing?"<br />
{{quote|"Listen... but do you really think it is wise to knock back so many vodkas before you fly that thing?"
"Oh, absolutely, darling. In fact, it's really quite essential... I mean, who in their right mind's going to climb into it sober?". }}
"Oh, absolutely, darling. In fact, it's really quite essential... I mean, who in their right mind's going to climb into it sober?". }}
** Of course, there's a secondary reason for Ultimate!Stark's alcoholism: he has an inoperable brain tumor that will kill him in under five years, which means he must be dealing with some massive migraines.
** Of course, there's a secondary reason for Ultimate!Stark's alcoholism: he has an inoperable brain tumor that will kill him in under five years, which means he must be dealing with some massive migraines.
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* Thea in ''[[Applause]]''.
* Thea in ''[[Applause]]''.
* ''[[In the Bleak Midwinter]]'' featured Carnforth Greville, an actor frequently seen leaving rehearsal under various suspicious pretexts.
* ''[[In the Bleak Midwinter]]'' featured Carnforth Greville, an actor frequently seen leaving rehearsal under various suspicious pretexts.
{{quote| "Chaps, I'm just dipping down to the... post office for a quick... [[Unusual Euphemism|stamp.]]"}}
{{quote|"Chaps, I'm just dipping down to the... post office for a quick... [[Unusual Euphemism|stamp.]]"}}
* Laurie Strode in ''[[Halloween (film)|Halloween]]: H20'' has become quite the alcoholic. Though, [[Complete Monster|considering who her brother is]], who can blame her?
* Laurie Strode in ''[[Halloween (film)|Halloween]]: H20'' has become quite the alcoholic. Though, [[Complete Monster|considering who her brother is]], who can blame her?
* Implied with Frank in ''[[Mystery Team]]''.
* Implied with Frank in ''[[Mystery Team]]''.
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* [[Metallica]] used to be called "Alcoholica". James Hetfield even had to enter a rehab facility, but he has been sober ever since. As insane as it is, [[Megadeth|Dave Mustaine]], who used to be in Metallica, was kicked out of the band because of his drinking problem. '''James Hetfield''' fired him for drinking too much. Part of the problem though, was simply Mustaine's behavior when drunk, as he was apparently a quite violent drunk, while the other members would be more withdrawn under the influence.
* [[Metallica]] used to be called "Alcoholica". James Hetfield even had to enter a rehab facility, but he has been sober ever since. As insane as it is, [[Megadeth|Dave Mustaine]], who used to be in Metallica, was kicked out of the band because of his drinking problem. '''James Hetfield''' fired him for drinking too much. Part of the problem though, was simply Mustaine's behavior when drunk, as he was apparently a quite violent drunk, while the other members would be more withdrawn under the influence.
* [[Tom Waits]] professed to alcoholism earlier in his career: songs like "[[Drunken Song|The Piano Has Been Drinking (Not Me)]]" and "[[Drowning My Sorrows|Bad Liver & A Broken Heart]]" are semi-biographical.
* [[Tom Waits]] professed to alcoholism earlier in his career: songs like "[[Drunken Song|The Piano Has Been Drinking (Not Me)]]" and "[[Drowning My Sorrows|Bad Liver & A Broken Heart]]" are semi-biographical.
{{quote| "I was really starting to believe that there was something amusing and wonderfully American about being a drunk. I ended up telling myself to cut that shit out."}}
{{quote|"I was really starting to believe that there was something amusing and wonderfully American about being a drunk. I ended up telling myself to cut that shit out."}}
* From [[Savatage]]'s ''[[Streets: A Rock Opera]]'', the main character DT Jesus is a junkie with an implied drinking problem as well. What motivates him to turn his life around is finding his childhood hero, a famous blues guitarist, is little more then a homeless wino.
* From [[Savatage]]'s ''[[Streets: A Rock Opera]]'', the main character DT Jesus is a junkie with an implied drinking problem as well. What motivates him to turn his life around is finding his childhood hero, a famous blues guitarist, is little more then a homeless wino.
* [[Billy Joel]]'s "Piano Man" is steeped in alcohol. Every other line is about someone drinking. Most evocative songs about alcoholism are written from the point of view of alcoholics. Not this one; it marries insight with acerbic detachment: the piano player is the outsider just making a living in a den of drunks.
* [[Billy Joel]]'s "Piano Man" is steeped in alcohol. Every other line is about someone drinking. Most evocative songs about alcoholism are written from the point of view of alcoholics. Not this one; it marries insight with acerbic detachment: the piano player is the outsider just making a living in a den of drunks.
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** Beyond Harris, the entire band was portrayed as being a bunch of drunken reprobates, particularly guitarist Frank Remly.
** Beyond Harris, the entire band was portrayed as being a bunch of drunken reprobates, particularly guitarist Frank Remly.
* Barry Cryer is seen as this by everyone else on ''[[I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue]]''. He seldom mentions it himself.
* Barry Cryer is seen as this by everyone else on ''[[I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue]]''. He seldom mentions it himself.
{{quote| '''Jack:''' One of the judges for this year's Beer Festival was our very own Barry Cryer. Barry sampled several dozens of different lagers, a variety of beers, and one or two champagnes, and as such, never made it to the festival.}}
{{quote|'''Jack:''' One of the judges for this year's Beer Festival was our very own Barry Cryer. Barry sampled several dozens of different lagers, a variety of beers, and one or two champagnes, and as such, never made it to the festival.}}


== Theater ==
== Theater ==
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* Kenshin Uesugi in ''[[Samurai Warriors]]''. Depending on who you ask, [[Truth in Television|real life as well!]]
* Kenshin Uesugi in ''[[Samurai Warriors]]''. Depending on who you ask, [[Truth in Television|real life as well!]]
* The [[Boisterous Bruiser|mouthy]] Demoman of [[Team Fortress 2]] seems to be [[Drunken Master|perpetually drunk on the battlefield]]. His default melee weapon is even a [[Grievous Bottley Harm|scrumpy bottle!]] Interestingly, the comics imply that he's a perfectly reasonable guy while sober... [[Hilarious in Hindsight|which means that he's]] ''[[Hilarious in Hindsight|always]]'' [[Hilarious in Hindsight|drunk off his ass in-game.]]
* The [[Boisterous Bruiser|mouthy]] Demoman of [[Team Fortress 2]] seems to be [[Drunken Master|perpetually drunk on the battlefield]]. His default melee weapon is even a [[Grievous Bottley Harm|scrumpy bottle!]] Interestingly, the comics imply that he's a perfectly reasonable guy while sober... [[Hilarious in Hindsight|which means that he's]] ''[[Hilarious in Hindsight|always]]'' [[Hilarious in Hindsight|drunk off his ass in-game.]]
{{quote| '''Demoman''': (on sudden death) ''Thankfully, I already don't remember this.''}}
{{quote|'''Demoman''': (on sudden death) ''Thankfully, I already don't remember this.''}}
* Sleip of ''[[Blaze Union]]''. She doesn't fit into the [[Always Female]] versions at all--she's young, she's cutesy, she's [[Ms. Fanservice]], and she's ''very'' resistant to the idea of sobering up.
* Sleip of ''[[Blaze Union]]''. She doesn't fit into the [[Always Female]] versions at all--she's young, she's cutesy, she's [[Ms. Fanservice]], and she's ''very'' resistant to the idea of sobering up.
* Oghren in ''[[Dragon Age Origins]]'' and the expansion, Awakening. His alcoholism seems to have started as a way of [[Drowning My Sorrows]]. Oghren used to be a renowned warrior and his wife was named a Paragon, the greatest honour a dwarf can ever achieve. When she left him and set off into the Deep Roads, however, things went downhill.
* Oghren in ''[[Dragon Age Origins]]'' and the expansion, Awakening. His alcoholism seems to have started as a way of [[Drowning My Sorrows]]. Oghren used to be a renowned warrior and his wife was named a Paragon, the greatest honour a dwarf can ever achieve. When she left him and set off into the Deep Roads, however, things went downhill.
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* ''[[Dwarf Fortress]]'': The one thing that all of the dwarfs have in common is that they 'need alcohol to get through the working day'. Almost everything else will vary between them (including what they like, what they hate, their personality traits, etc.), but alcohol is their default drink of choice (though, that said, the ''type'' of alcohol that they like best also varies).
* ''[[Dwarf Fortress]]'': The one thing that all of the dwarfs have in common is that they 'need alcohol to get through the working day'. Almost everything else will vary between them (including what they like, what they hate, their personality traits, etc.), but alcohol is their default drink of choice (though, that said, the ''type'' of alcohol that they like best also varies).
* Baofu from ''[[Persona 2]]: Eternal Punishment'' always enjoyed tipping a few back. With him, alcohol is integrated as a philosophy and as a way to know a real person as "the truth can be seen in a shot glass". An example below:
* Baofu from ''[[Persona 2]]: Eternal Punishment'' always enjoyed tipping a few back. With him, alcohol is integrated as a philosophy and as a way to know a real person as "the truth can be seen in a shot glass". An example below:
{{quote| '''Baofu:''' Hey Maya, why don't you try to become the best wine?<br />
{{quote|'''Baofu:''' Hey Maya, why don't you try to become the best wine?
'''Ulala:''' What do you mean?<br />
'''Ulala:''' What do you mean?
'''Baofu:''' The best wines are those that are treated well, but ultimately become spoiled or bad if misused over time. It's the same with humans. }}
'''Baofu:''' The best wines are those that are treated well, but ultimately become spoiled or bad if misused over time. It's the same with humans. }}


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** Barney Gumble appears worse than Homer, but is often seen trying to overcome his problem -- Homer has not even acknowledged he has a problem. He does occasionally, but usually for a throwaway gag, not as part of an episode's plot.
** Barney Gumble appears worse than Homer, but is often seen trying to overcome his problem -- Homer has not even acknowledged he has a problem. He does occasionally, but usually for a throwaway gag, not as part of an episode's plot.
** Lionel Hutz is shown to have a pretty severe drinking problem on occasion.
** Lionel Hutz is shown to have a pretty severe drinking problem on occasion.
{{quote| "Mrs. Simpson claims she forgot she had this bottle of sweet, Kentucky Bourbon... brownest of the brown liquors... What's that? You want me to drink you? But I'm in the middle of a trial! ...Excuse me! (runs out of courtroom)}}
{{quote|"Mrs. Simpson claims she forgot she had this bottle of sweet, Kentucky Bourbon... brownest of the brown liquors... What's that? You want me to drink you? But I'm in the middle of a trial! ...Excuse me! (runs out of courtroom)}}
* Roger of ''[[American Dad]]''.
* Roger of ''[[American Dad]]''.
* Pickles of ''[[The Oblongs]]''
* Pickles of ''[[The Oblongs]]''