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* [[Complete Monster]]: Ludovico il Moro, Duke of Milan. Giovanni Sforza probably counts too- yes, he's finally stopped brutally raping Lucrezia on a nightly basis and treats her with dignity and respect now, but it's only because [[The Dog Bites Back|Lucrezia and her boyfriend arranged for him to be injured and put out of commission]].

* [[Copy Cat Sue]]: In-universe, Ursula to Lucrezia. With her blond hair, hairnets, the way she meets Cesare directly after his dance with Lucrezia, and abusive husband, she is basically a stand in for Lucrezia that Cesare can actually have an affair with without incest.

* [[Fetish Retardant]]: Juan and Sancia's chemistry exploding into sexual passion? Hot! Juan and Sancia's chemistry exploding into sexual passion ''against the table where Sancia's father has seated a bunch of dead, mummified bodies''? [[Squick|OH GOD NO MAKE IT STOP.]]

* [[Foe Yay]]: Both Cesare and Rodrigo have this for Caterina Sforza. When trying to get the Sforzas as allies in season 2, Rodrigo talks about how he wants to feel her "beauteous lips on [[Royal We|our]]...papal ring" (complete with extremely suggestive pause). Cesare later repeats this line pretty much verbatim when he meets her to persuade her to come to Rome. Her conversations with him are dripping with innuendo from both parties. {{spoiler|They screw each other passionately for a couple of nights, only for her to openly defy the Borgias in the morning.}}

** Cesare and Machiavelli.

** Cesare and Djem in "The Moor", with Djem calling Cesare's name as he's dying and clutching him tightly.

* [[Idiot Plot]]: After {{spoiler|Paolo's death Lucrezia refuses to feed her baby. While everyone is looking for a solution because the child is starving ''no one'' thinks about finding a wet nurse (an issue that had been talked about in the first episode, and never again)}}.

** And yet possibly avoided with the ''other'' plot in the episode being more or less solved in the first quarter. {{spoiler|Lucrezia knows Paolo cannot read or write, knows Cesare arranged the meeting, her mother allowed it...but that Juan attacked Pablo for even speaking to her. Rodrigo and Cesare confront Juan...who is, true to his character ''proud'' of what he did to defend the family's "honor" and confesses. But see also [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]].}}

** And now, {{spoiler|Ursula is dead too. Since she's regarded as [[The Scrappy]] by most people, it's unlikely anyone will be too upset by this, even though Cesare all but lampshades the fact that her role was to make him more ruthless; "[her death] has released my heart of all emotions but one: vengeance".}}

* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]: The murder of {{spoiler|Paolo is more or less resolved in logical but very undramatic fashion in the first fifteen minutes of the episode following. Lucrezia remembers Paolo did not read or write and couldn't sign his name, much less leave a suicide note; she knows of only three people who even possibly knew about them and two of them, if not in favor, were at least accepting; and the third reacted violently to even the possiblity. She mentions Juan to Rodrigo, who confronts him with Cesare and their mother, and Juan admits it, because he's ''proud'' of "defending her honor".}}

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