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** And thus, the man who masterminded this suicide, in order to kickstart his [[Evil Plan]]..is [[Watchmen (comics)|Adrian Veidt]] (see below).

** [[You Fail Biology Forever|She can't be an albino. Albinos have pale skin.]]

* Or maybe she dyed her hair. * killed horribly*

** If he bleaches it from a dark color, that ''is'' dyeing it blonde. There's no reason to add dye to it.

* And Violet is the result, an illegitimate offspring of Helen and an unknown, dark haired Gentleman.

* [[Comically Missing the Point|No!!!!]] [[Black Best Friend|Frozone]] is Violet's real father.

== Syndrome is [[Heroes (TV series)|Sylar]]. ==

* It's in [[The Incredibles (Animation)/Headscratchers|Headscratchers/TheIncredibles]].

*** But wasn't Bomb Voyage only featured in the first act, which was the cause of the SRA, and not yet under it? Heros were still around and so were villans, at least up until the lawsuit.

** The reason we don't see or hear the name "Gamma Jack" is that, by the time the movie happens, he is known by another name...[[Watchmen (comics)|Rorschach]] (see below).

*** But we ''do'' see the name "Gamma Jack" -- he—he's in the slideshow of people who (ahem) helped work the bugs out of the Omnidroid.

Maybe, during the montage, we just saw the creation of the Keene Act. Maybe Syndrome was inspired by Ozymandias. Maybe we don't see the more [[Dystopia|dystopiandystopia]]n aspects of the Watchmen Earth because this is, after all, a [[Disney]] production.

* Maybe this theory is sexy. Notice how, even in [[Watchmen]], there are a couple of superheroes killed by their capes -- Dollarcapes—Dollar Bill infamously got his caught in a revolving door and was gunned down. The prologue scene took place during the "Under the Hood" era, just not in New York - NONE of it is in New York, which is why there are no smoldering craters, etc.

* Or maybe the supers weren't the result of random mutation-- theymutation—they were the humans that Manhattan said he was going to create.

Syndrome is half an obsessive [[Stalker Withwith a Crush]] whose life has centered around one-upping Mr. Incredible ever since his rejection, half a kid who wants to play [[Superhero]] a little too realistically. There is no reason for him to want to make everyone in the world Super -- eitherSuper—either for altruistic reasons, as his [[Misaimed Fandom]] has mistakenly concluded, or for evil reasons. ''He himself admits,'' "When everyone's Super, ''no one will be...''" What is the connection between such a plan and every other facet of his character?

When Xerek was cut and Syndrome was promoted to [[Big Bad]], Syndrome's revenge plot was promoted likewise. That's why Pixar randomly left in that one line -- whichline—which is never set up, never explored, and [[BigNon LippedSequitur Alligator MomentScene|never mentioned again]] -- is—is a mystery. So is the ignorance of the second sentence, which reveals that his motives are entirely evil without even a [[Utopia Justifies the Means]] personal justification.

** Iron Man's enemy during Civil War is the Anti-Reg side, whose leader is [[Captain America (comics)]], who is about as idealistic as Supes.

Mostly but not entirely copied from my original entry on the [[Just Bugs Me]] page: His powers at the end, with enough [[Rules Lawyer|Rules Lawyering]]ing, can explain everything in "Jack-Jack Attack". The [[Eye Beams]] and [[Playing Withwith Fire]] can have the same sources, if the former is just a very focused expression of the latter (emitting heat and light). The floating and walking on the ceiling are neutral and negative buoyancy, whereas the Heavy Jack-Jack at the end was a combination of shapeshifting and positive buoyancy. Going through the walls can be explained by many of the things that allow density change, such as if he has the single overall power of being able to change local matter (that is, his body) to energy and back, while affecting the way it is stored or used. If he has some way of containing heat or kinetic energy, or can adjust the stored energy to mass ratio by even a small amount (extra bonds instead of simple particles, etc.), he's probably been storing up extra environmental energy since his power first activated. Dash almost definitely has some energy-related powers, and Violet's shields are energy-based as well, so it's not unprecedented (although if I try to bring Superpower Genetics into this without Mr. Incredible having some sort of [[Superman|tactile telekinesis]], I'd end up saying that all supers' powers are moving energy around in their own special way, which is true for all life as we define it).

* Mr. Incredible might have the power to enhance the energy of his body's molecular bonds-- thisbonds—this would explain not only the invulnerability, but, since muscle cells use those same intermolecular forces to contract, it would cover his super-strength as well. Elastigirl has the power to manipulate those same molecular forces in a different way, to reshape her body. Dash simply channels kinetic energy through his body.

He can adjust reality so that the world behaves as though each of his [[New Powers Asas the Plot Demands]] was the real one. Of course, being a baby, his mind tends to wander and jump randomly. It's possible he'll grow up to be a good version of the ''[[Superman: theThe Animated Series]]'' version of Mr. Mxyzptlk.

It takes place in a 60sish time setting, but has things like computers and CD's. Well, it doesn't seem like much of a leap that Syndrome invented those in this world. He just doesn't mention them because they seem less impressive than weapons.

*** Rewatch the scene where Mr Incredible is viewing Syndrome's computer files on all the supers. The file for Elastigirl states that her last activity (i.e. the opening scene of the movie, or shortly afterwards) was in 1955. Since the present day is 15 years later, the movie is taking place in 1970 or so.

== Mesmerella, from the comics, is [[Batman: theThe Brave And The Bold (Animation)|Music Meister]]'s sister ==

Obviously, the [[Super-Hero School|super-powered high school]] has been created so that the next generation of heroes can learn to use their powers without undo destruction towards the city that they're protecting.

** [[PS 238PS238]] might also be in the Incredibles universe.

The entire ''plot of the movie'' in the present day was a [[Xanatos Gambit]] by Syndrome and the "dead" heroes to show the world that superheroes were still needed, by creating a super-threat and calling the Incredibles into action. They come back into open action and are accepted as heroes, or he is; Either way, super heroes make a comeback. Hey, it's not more convoluted than the Joker's plan in ''[[The Dark Knight]].''

...But not in a flashy and obvious way like flexiblity or flight. He invents rocket boots as a child. As an adult he invents robots, force-fields and war weapons. His superpower is his superbrain. He does not realize it as all of the popular superpowered people he looked up to as a child had more heroic abilitys.

== The connections of "Kronos" that are slightly too unconfirmed to go on a main page: ==

== This universe is a hallucination by [[Dr. HorriblesHorrible's Sing -Along Blog|Captain Hammer.]] ==

Think of it, supervillains feel secure enough to have a banking system for their operations and can easily overwhelm governments without worrying about superheroes trying to stop them.

* This would make sense, although for the not taking anything you could handwave it as the robber taking the cash out of it and throwing the empty wallet back.

Having Violet and Dash? No labor problem, just stretch!

* Somebody needs to write this fanfic. Now.

* Incredibles is set in an alternate 60s-70s, while the [[Monsters, Inc.]] comic links the movie as being set post-Toy Story 1 with Sid as a villain.

Every Super when they're born starts out without one particular power, instead showing a multitude of different powers. As they grow older, and their personalities start to coalesce more, they "grow into" their powers, and they lose the ability to do any of the other things they did as a child.

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