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== Mirage is an undocumented, illegal immigrant. ==
== Mirage is an undocumented, illegal immigrant. ==
* She's an unnamed fugitive from a women's prison in El Salvador (which explains her slight Spanish accent). Her appearance is attributable to the fact that she's an albino who wears green contact lenses. Syndrome used his technology to implant many years worth of English studies into her mind simultaneously, just as Morpheus did with Neo's "kung-fu" program in [[The Matrix]].
* She's an unnamed fugitive from a women's prison in El Salvador (which explains her slight Spanish accent). Her appearance is attributable to the fact that she's an albino who wears green contact lenses. Syndrome used his technology to implant many years worth of English studies into her mind simultaneously, just as Morpheus did with Neo's "kung-fu" program in [[The Matrix]].
** [[You Fail Biology Forever|She can't be an albino. Albinos have pale skin.]]
** [[You Fail Biology Forever|She can't be an albino. Albinos have pale skin.]]
*** She uses tanning cream. Or body paint.
*** She uses tanning cream. Or body paint.


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* Alternately, supers' hair can change over time more drastically than normals'. We only see the younger Elastigirl through a sepia filter world, so her hair color could have been different (darker or lighter) when she was a kid (also kind of works with "Mirage is Helen Parr" above).
* Alternately, supers' hair can change over time more drastically than normals'. We only see the younger Elastigirl through a sepia filter world, so her hair color could have been different (darker or lighter) when she was a kid (also kind of works with "Mirage is Helen Parr" above).
* Alternately again, since invisibility involves light-warping, maybe Violet can (consciously or unconsciously) change her hair color. ''Or'', maybe Elastigirl's real power is general shapeshifting, she's just unaware of its full potential and never changes colors because she doesn't know she can.
* Alternately again, since invisibility involves light-warping, maybe Violet can (consciously or unconsciously) change her hair color. ''Or'', maybe Elastigirl's real power is general shapeshifting, she's just unaware of its full potential and never changes colors because she doesn't know she can.
* Or maybe she dyed her hair. * killed horribly*
* Or maybe she dyed her hair. * killed horribly*
* Elastigirl's hair is clearly much redder in the prologue than it is in the main part of the movie. It's pretty safe to say that she dyes it.
* Elastigirl's hair is clearly much redder in the prologue than it is in the main part of the movie. It's pretty safe to say that she dyes it.


== Mister Incredible bleaches his hair. ==
== Mister Incredible bleaches his hair. ==
He likes having the look, and was happy that Dash got it naturally through recessive blonde genes. The reason his hair doesn't turn super-brittle and washed out once the melanin is leached from it? He dyes it blonde after bleaching it, and his hair has [[Nigh Invulnerability]] just like the rest of him.
He likes having the look, and was happy that Dash got it naturally through recessive blonde genes. The reason his hair doesn't turn super-brittle and washed out once the melanin is leached from it? He dyes it blonde after bleaching it, and his hair has [[Nigh Invulnerability]] just like the rest of him.
** If he bleaches it from a dark color, that ''is'' dyeing it blonde. There's no reason to add dye to it.
** If he bleaches it from a dark color, that ''is'' dyeing it blonde. There's no reason to add dye to it.


== Violet is adopted, possibly from another family who didn't want to deal with having a superpowered child in a world where superheroes weren't wanted. ==
== Violet is adopted, possibly from another family who didn't want to deal with having a superpowered child in a world where superheroes weren't wanted. ==
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== Helen had an affair. ==
== Helen had an affair. ==
She accused Bob of it. And it's easier to suspect people of things one has done oneself.
She accused Bob of it. And it's easier to suspect people of things one has done oneself.
* And Violet is the result, an illegitimate offspring of Helen and an unknown, dark haired Gentleman.
* And Violet is the result, an illegitimate offspring of Helen and an unknown, dark haired Gentleman.
** Well, Helen used to date Xerek according to the comics. And the solicits for future issues point towards some dark secret of Violet's being revealed...
** Well, Helen used to date Xerek according to the comics. And the solicits for future issues point towards some dark secret of Violet's being revealed...
*** The first hint might have been the nature of her powers. While everyone in her family has some kind of physical super ability (even Jack-Jack, if you consider his flotilla of powers "physical abilities"), Violet can make her self invisible and create force fields. She bends light around herself and manipulates energy to create force fields. Edna even went as far to state that designing her suit was "tricky", because of her invisibility power. Assuming that the type of superpower you have is dependent on the nature of your parents' power...
*** The first hint might have been the nature of her powers. While everyone in her family has some kind of physical super ability (even Jack-Jack, if you consider his flotilla of powers "physical abilities"), Violet can make her self invisible and create force fields. She bends light around herself and manipulates energy to create force fields. Edna even went as far to state that designing her suit was "tricky", because of her invisibility power. Assuming that the type of superpower you have is dependent on the nature of your parents' power...
* Oooo! Helen had an affair with [[Fantastic Four|The Thing]], because she's able to [[Squick|stretch to "accommodate" his size!]]
* Oooo! Helen had an affair with [[Fantastic Four|The Thing]], because she's able to [[Squick|stretch to "accommodate" his size!]]
* [[Comically Missing the Point|No!!!!]] [[Black Best Friend|Frozone]] is Violet's real father.
* [[Comically Missing the Point|No!!!!]] [[Black Best Friend|Frozone]] is Violet's real father.


== Syndrome ''is'' a super but doesn't know it. ==
== Syndrome ''is'' a super but doesn't know it. ==
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* [[Jossed]] by the comics, an entire [[Legion of Doom]] known as the Confederacy of Crime was active around Jack-Jack's birth and continues to be a threat to the family.
* [[Jossed]] by the comics, an entire [[Legion of Doom]] known as the Confederacy of Crime was active around Jack-Jack's birth and continues to be a threat to the family.
** Plus Bomb Voyage had escaped from the villain crackdown.
** Plus Bomb Voyage had escaped from the villain crackdown.
*** But wasn't Bomb Voyage only featured in the first act, which was the cause of the SRA, and not yet under it? Heros were still around and so were villans, at least up until the lawsuit.
*** But wasn't Bomb Voyage only featured in the first act, which was the cause of the SRA, and not yet under it? Heros were still around and so were villans, at least up until the lawsuit.


== The supervillains decided to stay quiet while the superheroes were being recalled because a mass supervillain incursion would probably make people change their minds. ==
== The supervillains decided to stay quiet while the superheroes were being recalled because a mass supervillain incursion would probably make people change their minds. ==
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** Actually, if Mr. Incredible had just let Buddy be his sidekick, the kid wouldn't have tried to fly off for help, thus never giving Bomb voyage the opportunity to slip an explosive onto his cape. If the train overpass hadn't been exploded, Sansweet's case might ot have generated enough public sentiment to trigger the flood of lawsuits. What this implies is that not only is Bob the reason Syndrome came into being, his refusal to make little Syndrome his sidekick indirectly CAUSED the SRA.
** Actually, if Mr. Incredible had just let Buddy be his sidekick, the kid wouldn't have tried to fly off for help, thus never giving Bomb voyage the opportunity to slip an explosive onto his cape. If the train overpass hadn't been exploded, Sansweet's case might ot have generated enough public sentiment to trigger the flood of lawsuits. What this implies is that not only is Bob the reason Syndrome came into being, his refusal to make little Syndrome his sidekick indirectly CAUSED the SRA.
* [[Jossed]]. In the extras, there are interviews with several Supers. Some appear to only be in the hero game for money or resources; at least one (Gamma Jack) was an out and out sociopath who took pleasure in killing his opponents and thought he was above normal humans.
* [[Jossed]]. In the extras, there are interviews with several Supers. Some appear to only be in the hero game for money or resources; at least one (Gamma Jack) was an out and out sociopath who took pleasure in killing his opponents and thought he was above normal humans.
** The reason we don't see or hear the name "Gamma Jack" is that, by the time the movie happens, he is known by another name...[[Watchmen|Rorschach]] (see below).
** The reason we don't see or hear the name "Gamma Jack" is that, by the time the movie happens, he is known by another name...[[Watchmen|Rorschach]] (see below).
*** But we ''do'' see the name "Gamma Jack" -- he's in the slideshow of people who (ahem) helped work the bugs out of the Omnidroid.
*** But we ''do'' see the name "Gamma Jack" -- he's in the slideshow of people who (ahem) helped work the bugs out of the Omnidroid.


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* Those time-travelling bastards pre-stole the idea!
* Those time-travelling bastards pre-stole the idea!
* [[Critical Research Failure|Aside from the aforementioned point that this was made BEFORE "Civil War"]], what the HELL does [[DC Comics|Superman]] have to do with [[Marvel Comics|Iron Man]]?!
* [[Critical Research Failure|Aside from the aforementioned point that this was made BEFORE "Civil War"]], what the HELL does [[DC Comics|Superman]] have to do with [[Marvel Comics|Iron Man]]?!
** Iron Man's enemy during Civil War is the Anti-Reg side, whose leader is [[Captain America]], who is about as idealistic as Supes.
** Iron Man's enemy during Civil War is the Anti-Reg side, whose leader is [[Captain America (comics)]], who is about as idealistic as Supes.


== Syndrome was an [[Dollhouse|active]], and Mirage was his handler. ==
== Syndrome was an [[Dollhouse|active]], and Mirage was his handler. ==
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== Syndrome invented all the technological extras. ==
== Syndrome invented all the technological extras. ==
It takes place in a 60sish time setting, but has things like computers and CD's. Well, it doesn't seem like much of a leap that Syndrome invented those in this world. He just doesn't mention them because they seem less impressive than weapons.
It takes place in a 60sish time setting, but has things like computers and CD's. Well, it doesn't seem like much of a leap that Syndrome invented those in this world. He just doesn't mention them because they seem less impressive than weapons.
** Some aspects of it may have a 60ish aesthetic, mainly the Incredimobile and one suburban house, but nothing else suggests it takes place in anything but the present day.
** Some aspects of it may have a 60ish aesthetic, mainly the Incredimobile and one suburban house, but nothing else suggests it takes place in anything but the present day.
*** Rewatch the scene where Mr Incredible is viewing Syndrome's computer files on all the supers. The file for Elastigirl states that her last activity (i.e. the opening scene of the movie, or shortly afterwards) was in 1955. Since the present day is 15 years later, the movie is taking place in 1970 or so.
*** Rewatch the scene where Mr Incredible is viewing Syndrome's computer files on all the supers. The file for Elastigirl states that her last activity (i.e. the opening scene of the movie, or shortly afterwards) was in 1955. Since the present day is 15 years later, the movie is taking place in 1970 or so.
* [[Fridge Brilliance]]. Syndrome mentions that he sold a lot of his inventions and that's why he's filthy rich. He says he only kept the best inventions, like the Omnidroid and the Zero Point Energy for himself.
* [[Fridge Brilliance]]. Syndrome mentions that he sold a lot of his inventions and that's why he's filthy rich. He says he only kept the best inventions, like the Omnidroid and the Zero Point Energy for himself.


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== [[Sky High]] takes place in the future of The Incredibles world. ==
== [[Sky High]] takes place in the future of The Incredibles world. ==
Obviously, the [[Super-Hero School|super-powered high school]] has been created so that the next generation of heroes can learn to use their powers without undo destruction towards the city that they're protecting.
Obviously, the [[Super-Hero School|super-powered high school]] has been created so that the next generation of heroes can learn to use their powers without undo destruction towards the city that they're protecting.
** [[PS238]] might also be in the Incredibles universe.
** [[PS238]] might also be in the Incredibles universe.


== Syndrome ''was'' a hero. ==
== Syndrome ''was'' a hero. ==
The entire ''plot of the movie'' in the present day was a [[Xanatos Gambit]] by Syndrome and the "dead" heroes to show the world that superheroes were still needed, by creating a super-threat and calling the Incredibles into action. They come back into open action and are accepted as heroes, or he is; Either way, super heroes make a comeback. Hey, it's not more convoluted than the Joker's plan in ''[[The Dark Knight]].''
The entire ''plot of the movie'' in the present day was a [[Xanatos Gambit]] by Syndrome and the "dead" heroes to show the world that superheroes were still needed, by creating a super-threat and calling the Incredibles into action. They come back into open action and are accepted as heroes, or he is; Either way, super heroes make a comeback. Hey, it's not more convoluted than the Joker's plan in ''[[The Dark Knight]].''


== Syndrome does have superpowers. ==
== Syndrome does have superpowers. ==
...But not in a flashy and obvious way like flexiblity or flight. He invents rocket boots as a child. As an adult he invents robots, force-fields and war weapons. His superpower is his superbrain. He does not realize it as all of the popular superpowered people he looked up to as a child had more heroic abilitys.
...But not in a flashy and obvious way like flexiblity or flight. He invents rocket boots as a child. As an adult he invents robots, force-fields and war weapons. His superpower is his superbrain. He does not realize it as all of the popular superpowered people he looked up to as a child had more heroic abilitys.
* Either that, or his power is to keep that ridiculous hairdo up even in the heat of battle.
* Either that, or his power is to keep that ridiculous hairdo up even in the heat of battle.


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== The period of superhero repression in that world is when ''[[Despicable Me]]'' takes place. ==
== The period of superhero repression in that world is when ''[[Despicable Me]]'' takes place. ==
Think of it, supervillains feel secure enough to have a banking system for their operations and can easily overwhelm governments without worrying about superheroes trying to stop them.
Think of it, supervillains feel secure enough to have a banking system for their operations and can easily overwhelm governments without worrying about superheroes trying to stop them.


== Syndrome wanted Mr. Incredible to kill Mirage ==
== Syndrome wanted Mr. Incredible to kill Mirage ==
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* Especially after considering that the mugger didn't take anything. Watch him leave; he throws the wallet back on top of the victim. Also, the most violent part was done on the side of the dumpster away from Mr. Incredible, which means it would be easier to stage it like that. That side of the dumpster was closer to the street, too, where it would be easier for a pedestrian to see. However, keep Disneyfication in mind.
* Especially after considering that the mugger didn't take anything. Watch him leave; he throws the wallet back on top of the victim. Also, the most violent part was done on the side of the dumpster away from Mr. Incredible, which means it would be easier to stage it like that. That side of the dumpster was closer to the street, too, where it would be easier for a pedestrian to see. However, keep Disneyfication in mind.
* This becomes especially clear since, even if the mugger didn't recognize the cubicle drone in the office as Mr. Incredible ([[Clark Kenting]] is alive and well in the universe after all), he could hardly have missed that said cubicle drone was about ''three times'' the size of the midget in the suit.
* This becomes especially clear since, even if the mugger didn't recognize the cubicle drone in the office as Mr. Incredible ([[Clark Kenting]] is alive and well in the universe after all), he could hardly have missed that said cubicle drone was about ''three times'' the size of the midget in the suit.
* This would make sense, although for the not taking anything you could handwave it as the robber taking the cash out of it and throwing the empty wallet back.
* This would make sense, although for the not taking anything you could handwave it as the robber taking the cash out of it and throwing the empty wallet back.


== '''S''' on Syndrome's costume actually stands for 'Superman'. ==
== '''S''' on Syndrome's costume actually stands for 'Superman'. ==
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== Helen had the easiest childbirths EVER. ==
== Helen had the easiest childbirths EVER. ==
Having Violet and Dash? No labor problem, just stretch!
Having Violet and Dash? No labor problem, just stretch!
* Dash was probably a [[Incredibly Lame Pun|fast birth]] regardless.
* Dash was probably a [[Incredibly Lame Pun|fast birth]] regardless.


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== Violet is Boo from Monster's Inc. ==
== Violet is Boo from Monster's Inc. ==
There are several points in monster's inc where Boo appears to have the power of invisibility. Monsters have to matched up to their specific kid so that they get maximum scream capacity. Boo was matched up with, that's right, Randall, a monster that becomes invisible. Coincidence? Yeah, probably. It's still a cool idea. As Violet grows up, she convinces herself that Sulley was just a dream or imaginary friend. Perhaps being good friends with monsters makes her subconsciously less comfortable around people and therefor shy in the human world. Or it could be the result of trauma from being kidnapped by Randall.
There are several points in monster's inc where Boo appears to have the power of invisibility. Monsters have to matched up to their specific kid so that they get maximum scream capacity. Boo was matched up with, that's right, Randall, a monster that becomes invisible. Coincidence? Yeah, probably. It's still a cool idea. As Violet grows up, she convinces herself that Sulley was just a dream or imaginary friend. Perhaps being good friends with monsters makes her subconsciously less comfortable around people and therefor shy in the human world. Or it could be the result of trauma from being kidnapped by Randall.
* Somebody needs to write this fanfic. Now.
* Somebody needs to write this fanfic. Now.
* Incredibles is set in an alternate 60s-70s, while the [[Monsters, Inc.]] comic links the movie as being set post-Toy Story 1 with Sid as a villain.
* Incredibles is set in an alternate 60s-70s, while the [[Monsters, Inc.]] comic links the movie as being set post-Toy Story 1 with Sid as a villain.


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== When every Super is born, they're just like Jack-Jack ==
== When every Super is born, they're just like Jack-Jack ==
Every Super when they're born starts out without one particular power, instead showing a multitude of different powers. As they grow older, and their personalities start to coalesce more, they "grow into" their powers, and they lose the ability to do any of the other things they did as a child.
Every Super when they're born starts out without one particular power, instead showing a multitude of different powers. As they grow older, and their personalities start to coalesce more, they "grow into" their powers, and they lose the ability to do any of the other things they did as a child.


== In the future Dash will marry an older version of [[Bolt|Penny.]] ==
== In the future Dash will marry an older version of [[Bolt|Penny.]] ==