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** Armor Ralf in ''Maximum Impact 2''. As the name implies, it's Ralf decked out in armor. This version of Ralf is a contender for the most broken non-boss fighting game character of all time. He has super armor, cannot be thrown normally, has infinite priority, does '''EVEN MORE DAMAGE THAN NORMAL RALF''', and cannot be knocked down. He was so broken that he was actually removed from the ''Regulation A'' upgrade to the game, though his data and model are still on the disc.

** Angel in ''2002''. She is meant to be played by players with experience in string-system combos; however, since this system would be considered hard to use properly, the game rewards Angel with long invincibility periods while doing her moves. This translates in the opponent having to guess what Angel will do and attack in the hopes that her next move won't have invincibility. Also, one of her moves in the string is a uppercut that can hit the opponent while he is recovering in the air. Should Angel spam this on the corner, we have a infinite combo that requires absolutely no power stocks.

** Billy Kane fights with a stick that gives him a unfair advantage at zoning. He also has a incredibly fast 2-hit attack that can be abused and can combo with other way stronger moves, should it hit near the corner.~~<br~~ ~~/><br />~~His ''MI2'' incarnation is far worse. The ''[[Tekken]]''-esque dial-a combos only bolster his rushdown game, his specials come out ''far'' quicker with less cooldown lag, and he gains devastating new attacks revolving around his bo. In order words, he can do all sorts of wicked shit. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeEGd18auCk This match] from ''MI2'' and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxfhT3fNbiU this match] from ''[[Updated Rerelease|Regulation A]]'' are good examples of what you're up against.

** Billy Kane fights with a stick that gives him a unfair advantage at zoning. He also has a incredibly fast 2-hit attack that can be abused and can combo with other way stronger moves, should it hit near the corner. His ''MI2'' incarnation is far worse. The ''[[Tekken]]''-esque dial-a combos only bolster his rushdown game, his specials come out ''far'' quicker with less cooldown lag, and he gains devastating new attacks revolving around his bo. In order words, he can do all sorts of wicked shit. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeEGd18auCk This match] from ''MI2'' and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxfhT3fNbiU this match] from ''[[Updated Rerelease|Regulation A]]'' are good examples of what you're up against.

** Athena has a fireball with almost instant recovery, as well as a teleport and a bug that makes she retreat at absurd speed when doing a backdash. Should you be at a lower health when the match time is about to finish, unless you're a very fast character yourself there's pretty much nothing you can do other than try and follow her while avoiding her firebals and watching out for a DM that jolts you if you touch her.

** Choi is a dwarf; his [[Hitbox Dissonance]] is about half the vertical size of a regular character. Most attacks, including specials and a good number of super moves pass right above his head; essentially cutting in half the viable options, strategies and combos of practically every other character in the game. Because of this, he's been top-to-god tier in almost every single installment of the series, and a staple [[Tier-Induced Scrappy]].

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** Terry's mangled English has become a vital part of his character. As well as Geese's. Which led to his hilariously cheesy reveal trailer at ''XIV'' (although this quote was instead taken from his ''Capcom vs SNK'' incarnation): "'''PREDICTABO!!'''"

* [[Never Live It Down]]: Athena. It doesn't matter how many ''KOF'' or fighting games she appears in, most older NES owners are still gonna remember her awful game on that system, which was actually a [[Porting Disaster|disastrous port]] of a decent arcade game.

* [[Older Than They Think]]:

* [[Offscreen Moment of Awesome]]: Oswald's fight with Shen Woo in their team's ''XI'' ending. [[Word of God]] says that the fight was left [[Cliff Hanger|open-ended]] because the fans would be disappointed with the final result.

** Jhun's Zankou Haki Geki HSDM in ''2002 Unlimited Match'' actually first appeared as his MAX2 in the lesser known Neowave, the sort of alternate ''2002'' where Jhun was playable.

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* [[Relationship Writing Fumble]]: Kyo and Chizuru are acquaintances, if not good friends. When Kyo became majorly pissed at Ash for stealing Chizuru's powers in ''2003'' ([[Does This Remind You of Anything?|and violating her while doing so]]), some fans were led to believe that Kyo has feelings for her. It doesn't help that Kyo's intro with Ash in ''XI'' [[Revenge|has him screaming "YOU BASTARD!" at the top of his lungs]]. Apparently, these fans have forgotten that [[Official Couple|Kyo has Yuki]].

** Athena's and Kensou's designs from ''XII'' and ''XIII'' were only new to the ''King of Fighters'' games; the costumes were actually derived from their original appearances in ''[[Psycho Soldier]]''.

** Add to this their roles in guarding the Seal of Orochi.

* [[Polished Port]]:

** [[Word of God]] also jokes on the Anniversary website that Chizuru must have envisioned Kyo eternally as a schoolboy (i.e. from the time they teamed up during the Orochi Saga) when creating [[Shadow Archetype|Kusanagi]]. Cue fans claiming she's in some type of a [[Loving a Shadow]] relationship with Kyo.

** The upcoming [[Steam]] release of ''The King of Fighters XIII'' will apparently have better netcode than the console releases.

** The Dreamcast versions of '''98'' and '''99'', ''Dream Match 1999'' and '''99 Evolution'' respectively, feature smoothed sprites, 3D backdrops and arranged music. '''99 Evolution'' also included some extra Striker characters that could be unlocked (including the first appearances of Vanessa and Seth, who would become full characters in ''2000'').

* [[Porting Disaster]]: Not an extreme case, but ''KOF: The Orochi Saga'' was marred by in-game loading, which wasn't present in the arcade versions. The same issue occurred for ''[[Metal Slug]] Anthology'' for PS2, and both compilations were made by Terminal Reality.

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* [[Relationship Writing Fumble]]: Kyo and Chizuru are acquaintances, if not good friends (with Chizuru as a [[Cool Big Sis]] figure that Kyo can't deny a lot to, if ''Sky Stage'' is to be believed), and have close roles in guarding the Seal of Orochi. When Kyo became majorly pissed at Ash for stealing Chizuru's powers in ''2003'' ([[Does This Remind You of Anything?|and violating her while doing so]]), some fans were led to believe that Kyo has feelings for her. It doesn't help that Kyo's intro with Ash in ''XI'' [[Revenge|has him screaming "YOU BASTARD!" at the top of his lungs]]. Apparently, these fans have forgotten that [[Official Couple|Kyo has Yuki]]. [[Word of God]] also jokes on the Anniversary website that Chizuru must have envisioned Kyo eternally as a schoolboy (i.e. from the time they teamed up during the Orochi Saga) when creating [[Shadow Archetype|Kusanagi]]. Cue fans claiming she's in some type of a [[Loving a Shadow]] relationship with Kyo.

** Then there is the mysterious relationship between K Dash and Kula Diamond. Unlike the protagonists from the Orochi arc, these two barely interact in the NESTS arc. However, in some artwork by Hiroaki the two appear to get really close, to the point there was a suggestic theme for the ''XIV'' where the two are removing their clothes. There is also a novel where the two hug, but in the ''Maximum Impact'' series, Maxima suggest Kula to call K Dash "uncle" despite their close age. Lastly, if in ''XIII'' K Dash and Kula fight, the former expresses regret in having come to do this, which comes as a surprise considering his bad mood.

* [[Replacement Scrappy]]:

** While K' managed to avoid this during NESTS, Ash Crimson got the full brunt of hatred from fans, especially when he started actively upstaging Kyo by beating Riot of the Blood Iori. His flamboyant appearance doesn't help, either.

** While K' managed to avoid this during NESTS, Ash Crimson got the full brunt of hatred from fans, especially when he started actively upstaging Kyo by beating Riot of the Blood Iori. His flamboyant appearance doesn't help either. Thankfully, ''XIV'''s new protagonist Shun'ei managed to avert this: while he wasn't that greatly received, at least he did not generate the massive hate Ash got.

** May Lee was once seen as this due to replacing Jhun in ''2001'' and then replacing longtime regular King in ''2002'' and taking her spot on the Women Fighters Team alongside fellow vets Yuri and Mai. [[Americans Hate Tingle|The Japanese essentially screamed]] '''[[Memetic Mutation|"I RAGED. HARD."]]''' over the latter to the [[Ruined FOREVER|point]] that not even adding King ''back'' in the home ports could undo the damage. Most of this scorn has passed over since and May Lee is seen as an [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] elsewhere.

** Momoko is sometimes considered as such. To '''Bao''' of all people. Frequently cited reasons are [[Most Annoying Sound|her voice]], [[Button Mashing]], and the fact that she was based off of discharged designs of Bao.

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** Bao. Added to the Psycho Soldiers team in '''99''. Too annoying to fight as, overpowered (at least his first incarnation) to fight against; stealing Kensou's powers. The strangest thing about this? '''He was conceptualized as beginner friendly.''' How they could screw that up so much is a mystery.

** SNK Playmore sees K9999 as this due to the [[Captain Ersatz|blatantness of his tribute to]] [[Akira|Tetsuo Shima]], which eventually led to his [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute|replacement by Nameless]].

* [[Sequelitis]]: ''2001'', due to the game being handled by a different team, and ''KOF XII'', due to being an [[Obvious Beta]].

* [[Shipping Goggles]]:

* [[Ship Mates]]:

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** '''All over the place''', with the above [[Relationship Writing Fumble]] example being a standout case. The series is in no way light on [[Ship Tease]], but fans will pick up on the ''smallest'' hints. [[Think Nothing of It|Iori's semi-decent towards Chizuru]]? Pair them up! Goenitz is mistranslated into making snide remarks about Mature and Vice [[All Women Are Lustful|not being able to keep their virginity]] and [[Pet the Dog|the two seem to care for Iori's well-being?]] Threesome, anyone? [[All Girls Want Bad Boys|Mature is somewhat infatuated with Rugal?]] {{spoiler|She ''must'' be Adel and Rose's mother!}} These are the most common instances, and far less logical cases most certainly exist.

** Ryo/King and Robert/Yuri shippers get along very, very well.

** Let's be honest: every company in charge of ''KOF'' is very, ''very'' aware that the franchise as a whole is ''[[Periphery Demographic|EXTREMELY]]'' [[Periphery Demographic|popular among female gamers of all ages]] (from teenage girls who are new to the games, to older ladies who grew up either wathcing others play or played alongside the boys). With the buttloads of [[Ship Tease]], it'd be weirder to NOT have a good part of the fandom all over it.

** Kyo/Yuki fans tend to ship Iori with Athena, and sometimes Leona and Chizuru. If not, they'll likely go for Kensou/Athena.

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* [[Shipping Goggles]]: '''All over the place''', with the above [[Relationship Writing Fumble]] example being a standout case. The series is in no way light on [[Ship Tease]], but fans will pick up on the ''smallest'' hints. [[Think Nothing of It|Iori's semi-decent towards Chizuru]]? Pair them up! Goenitz is mistranslated into making snide remarks about Mature and Vice [[All Women Are Lustful|not being able to keep their virginity]] and [[Pet the Dog|the two seem to care for Iori's well-being?]] Threesome, anyone? [[All Girls Want Bad Boys|Mature is somewhat infatuated with Rugal?]] {{spoiler|She ''must'' be Adel and Rose's mother!}} These are the most common instances, and far less logical cases most certainly exist. Let's be honest: every company in charge of ''KOF'' is very, ''very'' aware that the franchise as a whole is ''[[Periphery Demographic|EXTREMELY]]'' [[Periphery Demographic|popular among female gamers of all ages]] (from teenage girls who are new to the games, to older ladies who grew up either wathcing others play or played alongside the boys). With the buttloads of [[Ship Tease]], it'd be weirder to NOT have a good part of the fandom all over it.

* [[Ships That Pass in the Night]]: Iori/Leona. Likely routed in their common ailment (the Riot of the Blood), but the pair hardly seems to think much about each other, let alone anything remotely positive. The most you'll get is Iori expressing some curiosity in ''XIII'' that Leona is showing signs of being able to control her powers.

* [[So Bad It's Good]]: The movie. It was not made with being a serious film in mind. At all.

* [[Stoic Woobie]]: Heidern, adult Leona, K', Nameless, Clark (once you learn where his [[Tragic Keepsake|dogtags]] come from).

* [[Surprisingly Improved Sequel]]:

* [[Tear Jerker]]: If you know how ''XIII'' ends, you know why this phrase stings:

** ''2002'' is seen as this to ''2001'' for some. Although others hold the game in the same regard to ''2001'' given Eolith's involvement, its popularity rivals the first Dream Match game in certain regions. Returning it to the traditional 3-on-3 system without strikers, new mechanics, and seeing the return of several old favorites probably helped.

{{quote|''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion|God's in his heaven, all's right with the world!]]''}}

** ''XIII'' is this to ''XII''. It added a lot more characters, including those that were inexplicably missing before, more modes, closed the Tales of Ash saga, and made the fighting more fun overall.

* [[Suspiciously Similar Song]]:

** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ovCp9HXn-o "Jungle Bouncer,"] the theme of the ''Ikari'' team in both '''94'' and ''2002'' sounds very similar to Faith No More's [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upWUuByQLxQ "Surprise, You're Dead!"]

** Igniz has two of them. His ''2001'' theme, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzFIg7zmrAs "Kare koso Saikyo" ("He Is The Strongest!"),] is a faster rock version of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OivRHzXUm2A Original Zero's theme.] His new theme in ''2002UM'', [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy16dCouwc8 "Save The Universe,"] sounds like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6cfOUgt0h4 "Save A Future,"] Mildred Avalon's theme from ''[[Arcana Heart]]''.

** The Korea Team's theme in ''2000'', [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrlut8oXZ0 "Wild Party,"] has a few riffs indicative of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRbPWcLode0 "Crazy Train"] by "The Prince of Darkness" himself, [[Ozzy Osbourne]]. In particular, compare the beginning of both songs.

* [[Tainted by the Preview]]: It did not take long at all for the reaction to ''XIV'''s first trailer to garner this response. Though this has died down a bit after more trailers were released.

* [[That One Attack]]: Heidern's neck roller in ''2002 UM''. It's unblockable and has a deceptive hitbox.

** Rugal's Genocide Cutter ''will'' beat your ass if you don't prepare accordingly. When you couple all of this with his already impressive arsenal...