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If he is [[Authority Equals Asskicking|too tough to frag]], though, the (un)lucky survivor of his tirades will become either a [[Yes-Man]] with no more backbone than he started off with a sense of "loyalty" to him, or [[The Dragon]] who seeks to become his successor when he dies/moves on. In a best case scenario, the successor may show much competence and merely view the man as a [[Cynical Mentor]] or [[Drill Sergeant Nasty]], but not always. In this case, the other troops will remain as spiteful as ever, but find that the converted will easily take care of any sort of mutiny they try to pull off.
The [[Drill Sergeant Nasty]] is a Neidermeyer—or [[Cynical Mentor|just acts like one]]—with [[Training
See also [[Miles Gloriosus]] for a more general application of this trope.
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'''Tall:''' Fine! Fine! Now what about those reinforcements!
'''Staros:''' My company alone cannot take that position, sir.
'''Tall:''' You’re not going to take your men into the jungle to avoid a god damned fight. Now do you hear me, Staros! [[Attack! Attack! Attack!|I want you to attack. I want you to attack right now with every man at your disposal. Now attack, Staros!]]
'''Tall:''' It's never necessary to tell me that you think I'm right. We'll just... assume it.
'''Staros:''' We need some water... the men are passing out.
'''Tall:''' The only time you should start worrying about a soldier is when they stop bitchin'. }}
* In ''[[Paths of Glory]]'', General Mireau sends a division on a suicide mission to attack a heavily fortified German position just for the possibility of getting himself a promotion. After the attack fails, he blames the soldiers and orders random soldiers from the division to be executed for cowardice.
* Lt. Ito from ''[[Letters From Iwo Jima]]'', though if anything he's a mild example of what the real Imperial Japanese Military was like.
* In ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'', Major Powers is a good supply clerk with delusions of grandeur.
* C.J. is introduced in such a way in 2004's ''[[Dawn of the Dead (2004 film)|Dawn of the Dead]]''.
* The Tropenamer, from [[Animal House]].
* ''[[The Manchurian Candidate (novel)|The Manchurian Candidate]]'': At least in the first movie, the fact that {{spoiler|everybody in the squad likes Sgt. Shaw despite him being The Neidermeyer}} is a major clue that something's going on.
== Literature ==
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** When walking very slowly towards the enemy, British soldiers were commonly marching behind a firewall of artillery that typically exterminated everyone trying to pop up and hurt them. When they lost the protection of that barrage (muddy ground and other unexpected holdups) is when things frequently went bad. ''Blackadder'' is wonderful satire, but has done terrible things for the understanding of Great War history.
* ''[[Generation Kill]]'': [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhGIFLWadEU "Follow My TRACERS!"]
{{quote|'''Marine #1:''' He's got his fucking bayonet out. [[Leeroy Jenkins|Doing his Rambo thing]].
'''Captain America:''' FOLLOW MY TRACERS!
'''Marine #2:''' He's shooting at scraps of metal.
'''Marine #3:''' Can you believe that fucking retard is in charge of people?
'''Captain America:''' Engage those buildings!
'''Marine #4:''' Sir, that's more than 3,000 meters away. Range of my .50 is 1830.
'''Captain America:''' Move into position! [[Attack! Attack! Attack!|Engage! ENGAGE!]] }}
** It's worth noting the HBO adaptation of ''Generation Kill'', discussed above, for how its portrayal of Captain America is a flagrant (but accounting for production times, probably coincidental) [[Expy]] of Captain Bannon from ''[[World in Conflict]]'', below. Though it isn't saying much, Encino Man loses the tiny amount of sympathy he ''may'' have had in the book, with the actor playing him nailing the concept of the nickname perfectly; a man who's problem isn't lack of experience so much as lack of basic common sense.
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== Tabletop Games ==
* Most of the Commissars in ''[[Warhammer
** Similar to the Dinobots example listed below, one of the reasons Imperial doctrine normally prohibits [[Space Marine]] commanders from leading large-scale actions and campaigns in which the Marines and Imperial Guard fight together is that they tend to work the normal troops as hard as their [[Super Soldier]] battle brothers, often with fatal results.
** Common Imperial Guard tactics employed usually boil down to "throw men at it by the regiment like a battering ram until it breaks." A noted battle cries of commissars is, "We will drown them in our blood and crush them under the weight of our own dead!"
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* Zaeed Massani of ''[[Mass Effect 2]]'' was apparently this, considering the fact that all his stories usually end with getting all of his men killed and info discovered in [[Downloadable Content|Lair of the Shadow Broker]] reveals that {{spoiler|a major element for his betrayal by the Blue Suns}} was his inability to ensure loyalty. {{spoiler|In fact, he's actually a poor choice for an end-game Fire Team/Distraction Leader.}}
* Due to the open ended nature of the story, it is entirely possible that both brothers in ''[[Team Fortress 2]]'' count as this. All of the mercs on both teams start haphazardly next to the other side, and can just run to battle in about 4 seconds, and everybody should die at least once. Given that the announcer seemed to be looking for this setup, it may be the brothers were intended to both become "the Neidermeyer".
* Lt. Cole Phelps of ''[[
== [[Web Comics]] ==
* The [[Scary Dogmatic Aliens|Bleen]] leadership tends to operate like this, [[You Have Failed Me...|not being used to setbacks]].
{{quote|'''[[The Emperor]]:''' Tell me how your [[Alien Invasion|invasion fleet]] came to be destroyed by a group of [[Puny Earthlings|inferior monkeys]]
'''Bleen soldier:''' Your eminence, the hu-mons have perverted our [[Artificial Gravity|repulsor technology]] into [[Wave Motion Gun|a devestating weapon]].
'''The Emperor:''' Yet you did nothing to punish them for this?
'''Bleen soldier:''' Um... Excuse me? We were... I dunno, occupied.
'''The Emperor:''' Occupied? [[Hold Your Hippogriffs|What on Bleen]] were you doing other than [[Attack! Attack! Attack!|advancing the mighty flag of your sovereign]].
'''Bleen soldier:''' [[Deadpan Snarker|Screaming? Praying? ...fighting over the escape pods? The usual.]] }}
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* In ''[[The Simpsons]]'', Principal Skinner was shot in the back when he was a sergeant in Vietnam when trying to get Joey Heatherton to ''put some pants on''. The depiction of his army career is basically the same as his current one, just with soldiers replacing Willy. That's of course you assume he's telling the truth in any of his flash backs, what with him {{spoiler|not really being Seymour Skinner}}.
* Capt Marcus of ''[[Exo Squad]]'' is the worse example. He's both a [[General Ripper]] and [[General Failure]] all roled into one. His battleplans usually end up getting ambushed and outgunned by the enemy.
* [[Yo Yogi!]]: Dick Dastardly usurps Yogi's position as the head of the LAF (Lost And Found) section of Jellystone Mall and becomes a Neidermeyer to Yogi's friends. Later on, two kidnappers trick him into abducting Augie Doggie and he's now afraid of being sent to prison. He tries to get Yogi's friends to help him rescuing Augie but they won't follow him, so he brings Yogi back.
** Dick Dastardly, period, on his own show [[Dastardly and Muttley in Their Flying Machines]]. The General believes him incompetent (just there to collect flight pay), Zilly tries to shirk his duties, and Muttley isn't above using blackmail to weasel a medal from him. Klunk is the only pilot that gives him an iota of respect.
* Mr. Peevly from [[The Hair Bear Bunch|Help! It's The Hair Bear Bunch!]]. Any respect the zoo animals give him is purely tongue-in-cheek.
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