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** D’Vorah may have been an experiment by the developers to prove a female character could be popular without making her look like an exhibitionist supermodel, but while she does have some fans, she has far more detractors. For one, D’Vorah is not just unattractive, she is ''disgusting''; it's hard to find a fan who actually likes bugs. She also seems to hog the glory, doing about 90% of everything important to the bad guys' plans, at least in ''X'', by herself. Comic book adaptations cause her to almost veer into [[Villain Sue]] territory by making her almost unbeatable, able to literally survive being torn in half (to give one example). What truly makes D’Vorah so hated, however, was that while killing Baraka could have been forgiven, killing Mileena ''enraged'' the fanbase (as Mileena herself tells Erron Black in ''11'', "A million souls cried out for my return!” and she isn't lying, given how many fans signed the #WeWantMileena petition on Twitter). Killing Scorpion, however (''the'' most popular character in the franchise) was the [[Moral Event Horizon]] in the eyes of most fans. New characters killing old ones with large fanbases is not a good way to establish a fanbase of their own. An overpowered newbie who "didn't pay her dues" (as wrestling fans might say), the experiment seems to be a failure.
** With Ferra/Torr, [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character]]. The idea of a two-character team in a Fighting Game did seem novel and original, but the problem was, the duo really... didn't do anything in the story. Contributing nothing important to the plot, no interesting quirks, personality, or background, they were henchmen, and nothing else.
* ''[[Mortal Kombat 11]]'':
* Kronika, the [[Big Bad]] and [[Final Boss]] of ''11'' is possibly the most disliked boss in Mortal Kombat for a variety of reasons, which is a shame, being the first female boss in the franchise. First of all, storywise, she makes no sense if you know the history of the game. As a Titan, she is supposedly above the Elder Gods and the One Being, but according to the established story of Creation, the One Being and Elder Gods were the only beings who existed before Time as a concept came into being, and the creation of the universe via the Big Bang occurred after the One Being was defeated and sealed away, meaning all of existence is, in fact, the sundered One Being. Kronika and her kin just don’t fit. Also, for all her hubris, Kronika does not seem to have any godlike power of her own, she needs the Hourglass and Crown to do, well, anything. Then there’s her motive. She claims she has reset the timeline over a 100,000 times over the course of millions years. This sounds dramatic, making her sound intimidating and omnipotent - until [[Fridge Logic]] makes you wonder, ''why has it taken this all-powerful entity that long?'' Doesn’t say much for divine competence, it means she's either two dumb to accomplish her goal or it's impossible and she doesn't realize it, [[Stupid Evil|making her an idiot either way.]] Even, gameplay wise, she’s not a good boss, and a rare case where being an [[SNK Boss]] is not a benefit. First, she cannot be juggled or knocked down, so combos don’t work against her, meaning the fight doesn’t seem like Mortal Kombat at all. And while the unique style (less reliant on brute force and more on confusing, random attacks (she summons [[Everything's Better with Dinosaurs|a freakin’ dinosaur]] for crying out loud) but once you start to understand the pattern, it’s easy to defeat her with a stun lock or cheese the fight with projectiles because she literally cannot crouch. Unlike Shao Kahn (who players claim to have gotten PDSD trying to defeat when ''[[Mortal Kombat 2]]'' came out) Kronika is an easy boss, the only truly difficult part (especially on high levels) being when she leaves the arena and sends another Kombatant to fight you.▼
** The Kollector had the same problem as Ferra/Torr, cool look, decent design, but almost no relevance to the plot at all and wasted potential. He acted as [[Mr. Exposition]] to tell Shao Kahn what had happened while he was gone, but other than that, he didn't really ''do'' anything except act as a [[Jobber]] for the heroes to beat up.
▲** Kronika, the [[Big Bad]] and [[Final Boss]] of ''11'' is possibly the most disliked boss in Mortal Kombat for a variety of reasons, which is a shame, being the first female boss in the franchise. First of all, storywise, she makes no sense if you know the history of the game. As a Titan, she is supposedly above the Elder Gods and the One Being, but according to the established story of Creation, the One Being and Elder Gods were the only beings who existed before Time as a concept came into being, and the creation of the universe via the Big Bang occurred after the One Being was defeated and sealed away, meaning all of existence is, in fact, the sundered One Being. Kronika and her kin just don’t fit. Also, for all her hubris, Kronika does not seem to have any godlike power of her own, she needs the Hourglass and Crown to do, well, anything. Then there’s her motive. She claims she has reset the timeline over a 100,000 times over the course of millions years. This sounds dramatic, making her sound intimidating and omnipotent - until [[Fridge Logic]] kicks in and makes you wonder, ''why has it taken this all-powerful entity that long?'' Doesn’t say much for divine competence, it means she's either
== Pokémon ==
* Back during the heyday of Gen 4, Bidoof was considered to be ''the'' Scrappy of ''[[Pokémon]]'' thanks to its goofy appearance, perceived uselessness, and its omnipresence on ''so many routes''. Funnily, time would be kinder to the little beaver, with fans coming to love its [[Ugly Cute]] demeanor. It's also not too shabby of a battler, compared to other early-route rodent [[Com Mons]] of its ilk.
* The Spiky-Eared Pichu and the Pikachu-Colored Pichu in HeartGold & SoulSilver
* Jynx was widely hated when she made her debut not just being a creepy [[Gonk|gonkish]]-looking Pokémon, but for being a creepy [[Gonk|gonkish]]-looking Pokémon that looked like she was wearing blackface. (Truthfully, it was based on a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganguro Ganguro], a Japanese counterculture fashion that was popular in the 90s.) While the intention was for her to resemble a mix between an obscure mountain yokai, the ganguro subculture, and an [[Ultraman]] creature, saying that it didn't translate well overseas would be one ''hell'' of an understatement. With that being said, years after having her skin turned purple and her [[Gonk]] traits being dialed down a bit, [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap|Jynx has slowly, but surely been attracting fans who now understand what Gamefreak was going for.]]
* Cresselia is this in ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: Explorers of Darkness/Time/Sky'' as well as a [[Tier-Induced Scrappy]]. Not only do you have to [[Escort Mission|escort her to the end of the dungeon (A frustrating task already with regular Pokémon, and she's a Legendary)]], but she also has the habit of wandering over lava (Which burns her and ends up wasting your Reviver/Heal Seeds), but she's also involved in the final battle against {{spoiler|Darkrai}}... and she's USELESS in said battle due to her being a Psychic type being pitted against a Dark type.▼
▲* Cresselia is this in ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: Explorers of Darkness/Time/Sky'' as well as a [[Tier-Induced Scrappy]]. Not only do you have to [[Escort Mission|escort her to the end of the dungeon (A frustrating task already with regular Pokémon, and she's a Legendary)]], but she also has the habit of wandering over lava (Which burns her and ends up wasting your Reviver/Heal Seeds), but she's also involved in the final battle against {{spoiler|Darkrai}}...and she's USELESS in said battle.
** From the same PMD games, we have Chatot. Why? For one thing, he's a [[Jerkass]], and then there's the Perfect Apples incident. To summarize: after Team Skull takes the Perfect Apples during your mission to get them, Chatot berates you and your partner for failing. Instead of taking some time to listen to you, he immediately punishes you for going without dinner and forces you to face the Guildmaster. During that scene, even though Team Skull gives Wigglytuff one of the Perfect Apples to rub salt into your wounds, Chatot ''rubs the failure in your face the next day, telling you to give up on being included for the expedition.'' While he does manage to have what some people consider his [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] near the end of the main storyline, it is the Perfect Apples incident that lands him in here.
* [[Goddamned Bats|Goddamn Zubats...]] They're fast, packing obnoxious confusion-inducing moves to trip you up, and practically ''infest'' the caves they're found in. With that being said, this only goes for ''enemy'' Zubats (and Golbats, their evolution), Zubat itself is actually a popular Pokémon for ingame use since its final evolution, Crobat, is an ''amazing'' Pokémon.
* Magikarp is a running joke for causing headaches [[Magikarp Power|until he evolves into Gyarados]], but with the use of Experience Share that isn't hard to do, and with him being so common, you could easily raise a formidable army of Gyarados. ''Feebas,'' on the other hand, is terribly rare, so getting one at all depends on use of a strategy guide and luck, and evolving it is just as big of a pain. It requires you boost its beauty stat with fairly rare berries, and only certain natures of Feebas make this possible. One walkthrough writer even went as far as to declare, "I hate that fucking fish!"
** Thank
* The announcer from ''Pokémon Battle Revolution'' tends to get a fair amount of hate, due to often repeating specific phrases. You attack the foe? "(Pokémon) starts to attack!" The foe gets knocked out? "(something)ed by (move)!" "It went down!" The worst? The foe scores a critical hit. "A clean hit!" SHUT THE FUCK UP. Thankfully, you can turn his voice off in Options.
** This one goes all the way back to the original ''Pokémon Stadium''.
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* With the amount of times they attack you, Geodude and its relatives would initially seem to fall under the [[Goddamn Bats]] trope—but try to fight them and they often reveal themselves as even worse. Because they can learn Self-Destruct naturally, and aren't shy about using it, it's often better to just run away when you encounter them—which will be a lot of times.
* Whitney's Miltank in HG/SS. It was <s>annoying</s> [[That One Boss|a menace]] in the originals, but in the remakes, which now had the ability system from Gen III, it gained the ability to damage Ghosts (which are normally immune to Normal types). Said ability is appropriately called Scrappy.
** Whitney herself is also this by association, though the fact that she throws a tantrum and initially refuses to give you the badge once you beat her gives her some unlikability points that are distinctly hers.
* Audinos are pretty hated by some players. They appear in every single area that has rustling grass, and are what you'll find there over half the time. This annoys people, especially when they try for extra rare Pokémon in these patches like certain fully evolved ones. However, they make for really good experience points sponges.
* Fennel has been getting this from other players ever since the Global Link opened. What doesn't help is her taunting expression and her [[Stop Helping Me!|constantly helping out when you only have an hour to spare on the Dream World]].
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* If a Pokémon is based on an inanimate object, it often gets a ton of hate. For example, Trubbish is often considered one of the very worst Pokémon (based on design).
** Granted, even Pokémon like Trubbish have fans who view it as a [[Ridiculously Cute Critter]]. It's the same (albeit less vitriolic) with ones like Vanillite, the ''ice cream'' Pokémon.
* And this brings us to Luvdisc, who is considered by fans as the most useless waste of life out of all
** Similarly, there's Unown. A psychic-type Pokemon that is essentially a side "[[Gotta Catch Em All]]" gimmick since there's 28 different variations (one for each letter of the alphabet and some punctuation). It doesn't help that Unown has horrible stats and can only learn "Hidden Power" (A move that is hit-n-miss in terms of which type it will be effective against). To make matters worse, all you get for catching all the variations of Unown is a certificate saying you caught them all (At least in Gold/Silver/Crystal you could print out said certificate).
* There are many Scrappy Moves introduced in the series: Whirlwind, Roar, Confuse Ray, Supersonic. All are incredibly annoying, especially if you're trying to level up your team...and an enemy trainer has their Pidgeotto use Whirlwind to throw underleveled
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* A slightly more obscure version is Mindy, a character from the Sinnoh games who seemingly wants to make a good ingame trade: you give her a Medicham, and she'll give you Haunter, which evolves into the badass, incredibly powerful Gengar when it's traded... Except that this particular Haunter is holding an Everstone, which prevents it from evolving when it's given to you, [[Jerkass|and she even goes as far as to taunt you about it not evolving.]] For those who weren't able to trade with other people, she's easily considered one of the most hateable people in the series, bar none.
* While friendly rivals are controversial to begin with, Hop from ''[[Pokémon Sword and Shield]]'' is easily the one people hate the most. Not only is his general arc (and even a few animations) recycled straight from Hau, an already controversial character, but he's viewed as a clingy and obnoxious annoyance who will ''never'' shut up about type advantages when you fight him.
* Geeta from ''[[Pokémon Scarlet and Violet]]'' has quickly cemented herself as the franchise's most hated champion. Her design is widely considered to be creepy and off-putting (mainly in her official art, which steps neatly into the [[Uncanny Valley]]), and she doesn't have a winning personality to salvage it. For the most part she's a boring non-character, but when she ''does'' show a hint of a personality, it's usually through her inexplicable hatred of resident [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] [[Woobie|Larry]], who she's a ''terrible'' boss towards. [[Anticlimax Boss|Her team sucks too]], due to it consisting of weak Pokémon and potentially strong Pokémon that are kneecapped by incompetent usage that doesn't take advantage of their strengths as battlers.
== Shin Megami Tensei Series ==
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== Sonic the Hedgehog ==
* Silver
** His appearance in ''[[Sonic Generations]]'' [[Rescued from the Scrappy Heap|made efforts to improve his position]], where the fight is reworked to greatly involve high-speed and is [[Obvious Beta|much less bugged]], he demonstrates much more powerful telekinesis, and [[Quinton Flynn|has a better voice actor]]. Even if you still don't like him after this, [[Hoist by His Own Petard|crushing him with his own "Meteor Smash"]] is bound to be satisfying.
*** While ''Sonic '06'' hasn't been [[Vindicated by History]] in a traditional sense, fans looking back on it more objectively and recognizing the potential it had to be great has led to Silver being fully elevated above his scrappy status. Now viewed as more of an unfortunate victim of circumstance due to the game's rushed development and poorly-executed story, many have lamented that he's been forced to languish as a side character and feel that he deserves another shot at stardom since derivative or not, a powerful psychic hedgehog is still a hell of a hook for attracting fan attention.
* [[Mega Neko|Big the Cat]], since his
* Some original characters from TV shows get the same treatment.▼
** Oddly enough, Big would end up developing an ironic fandom that would give way to an ''unironic'' fandom due to later games making his [[Kindhearted Simpleton]] nature more apparent, as well as divorcing him from his awful fishing missions. It says a lot that when it was revealed that he'd be making a prominent appearance in ''[[Sonic Frontiers]]'', he was accepted with open arms! Sure, his fishing missions in that game ''are'' revamped and optional, but he's still come a long way!
▲* Some original characters from TV shows and comics get the same treatment.
** Half the people who watched ''[[Sonic X]]'' just wanted to throw Chris Thorndyke in a wood chipper simply for being in the show at all. His detractors argue that he's got lots of money and friends, but constantly plays the [[Lonely Rich Kid]] card because he'd rather hang out with [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] and his anthro brigade. Fans also complain that he practically steals the 'sidekick' roll from Tails.
*** Another one of the main reasons people hate Chris is because he [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|had more screen time than all the other characters; including Sonic!]] And it doesn't help that he whines constantly and feels entitled to Sonic's attention to the point that he's willing to risk the world freezing in time because he refuses to let him go back to his own universe and leave him behind.
** Princess Sally Acorn of the ''[[Sonic Sat AM|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' SatAM cartoon and the Archie comic series
** Fellow ''Archie'' scrappy Locke, Knuckles' father, gets this for being a terrible parent who's often shilled and viewed as a paragon of virtue when written by Ken Penders. While he's ''meant'' to be a sympathetic hero who intended to do right by his son, the execution makes him come off as a self-righteous, sociopathic control freak who experimented on his son, gaslit him, isolated and abused him, and generally ruined his life for the sake of fulfilling a prophecy. And while Ian Flynn desperately tried to course-correct him by treating this all as a ''bad'' thing and giving him a [[Heel Realization]], the damage done to his reputation was irreparable, and to this day he's viewed as the living incarnation of (almost) everything wrong with Ken Penders' tenure as a writer, as well as the series' most obnoxious [[Creator's Pet]].
** Shortfuse from ''[[Sonic the Comic]]'' is almost universally hated by fans of the comic. He repeatedly [[As You Know|told his backstory]] every time he appeared, sometimes twice in one issue. He's generally somewhat annoying, and [[Word of God]] is he and Tekno like each other (which doesn't fare well with the fans who prefer Tekno with [[Les Yay|Amy]]).
* Omochao gets a lot of anti-fan heat for the same reasons Navi does. Like her, she/he/it is an obnoxious [[Exposition Fairy]] that ''just won't shut up.'' Thankfully, ''unlike'' Navi Omochao can be thrown, smacked, and dropped down pits for instant stress relief.
* The same thing goes for Tikal, at least
* Princess Elise is in the unenviable position of being a [[Damsel Scrappy]] from ''Sonic '06'' and Sonic's [[Designated Love Interest]] in a series where shipping wars can get ''ugly''. Thanks to the triple-whammy of constantly being kidnapped during Sonic's story, [[Squick|squicking]] out people who aren't into anthro/human relations by {{spoiler|kissing Sonic}}, and being too dull and uninteresting to those who are, she's one of the most hated characters in the franchise and unlike Silver, never got [[Vindicated by History]].
* Charmy in later games is pretty disliked thanks to his "annoying kid" character - fortunately this is intentional, so it doesn't hit as hard. Somewhat less prominent than the other characters since he only seems to get bit roles, even compared to the other members of his team. He also benefits a bit from the [[Grandfather Clause]] as the team debuted in Sonic's classic era. Plus, he's got his teammate Vector to play off of, with the lovable crocodile viewing him as a cute, but annoying kid brother figure who often scolds him for his more annoying behavior.
* Marine
* The G.U.N Commander from ''[[Shadow the Hedgehog]]'' gets this for his [[Hypocrite|hypocritical]] and [[Idiot Plot|nonsensical character motivation]]. Being a survivor of the Space Colony ARK massacre who viewed Maria as a sister and blames Shadow for her death isn't a terrible concept in and of itself. But what sinks it is that for some ungodly reason he joined and commands the corrupt military squad responsible for her death while seething endlessly about how much he hates Shadow for a murder that his own side committed. And it's not like he's cleaning up G.U.N from the inside either: it's every bit as corrupt and trigger-happy now as it was then, making his entire characterization one of the most baffling aspects of the game.
* The Deadly Six from ''[[Sonic Lost World]]'' are pretty much the most hated villains of the series by a country mile. Other unpopular villains like Black Doom and Infinite at least have [[Evil Is Cool|awesome designs]] and [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character|untapped potential]] going for them, but the Deadly Six don't even have that. They're almost universally viewed as boring [[Flat Character|Flat Characters]] whose personalities begin and end with being cartoonishly shallow villain stereotypes, with their designs also being criticized as ugly and out of place. Zavok, their leader, tends to get this the worst since he ''constantly'' shows up in other games despite vocal fan backlash, [[Creator's Pet|almost as if someone high on the totem pole at SEGA is trying (and failing) to push him as the series' next big thing.]] Even after Ian Flynn [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap|rescued them from outright Scrappydom]] in IDW's line of comics, they haven't escaped it entirely. Now they've ascended to [[Base Breaker]] status, and still have a very loud hatedom.
== Star Fox ==
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** Tanooki Mario and Cat Peach. They're DLC characters who are responsible for the roster having ''four'' Marios and Peaches, and a slap in the face to fans who hate that they have to spend money on ''these'' characters to get access to Link and the new cups.
** Gold Mario. He gets this a bit less since he's an alternate skin to Metal Mario who lacks his own slot, but it doesn't change the fact that as of ''Deluxe'', ''Mario Kart 8'' now has ''five'' playable Marios. He's also the only secret character, making him feel like an underwhelming reward for those who put in the time and effort to unlock him.
** While the new characters added to ''Deluxe'' via DLC are all beloved fan favorites, there is one exception to the rule: Peachette. She's ''yet another Peach clone'' whose presence baffled and infuriated fans the very second she was revealed, and stole a slot from more popular characters such as Dixie Kong, King Bob-Omb, Hammer Bro, and R.O.B at the last possible second.
* The spirit of the Dream Stone from ''[[Mario and Luigi Dream Team]]'' is an obnoxious, abrasive asshole that does everything in its power to be as unhelpful as possible when Mario, Luigi, and Prince Dreambert try to consult it. Even though Bowser and Antasma plan to use its physical form to cause trouble, it jeers at and insults the heroes while forcing them to chase it all around Dreamy Dozing Sands. And when it's cornered, it decides to ''kill'' them by turning into a massive robot. Thankfully, [[Catharsis Factor|you get to beat the tar out of it during the boss battle that follows]].
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** To a lesser extent, Fi, more or less for being [[Stop Helping Me!|extremely]] [[Captain Obvious|unhelpful]]. She has a knack of reiterating a piece of information said by an NPC [[Viewers Are Goldfish|literally five seconds after said NPC finished talking]], [[Captain Obvious|pointing out your shield is damaged or your hearts are low]], and in contrast to Tael and Midna, she's cold, stoic and almost robotic. It makes you wonder if the Goddesses created her to prepare one of his reincarnations for Navi.
*** However, {{spoiler|her farewell at the end of the game [[Rescued from the Scrappy Heap|rescued her from the scrappy heap]] for some.}}
* In ''Breath of the Wild'' and ''Tears of the Kingdom'', the Koroks qualify as a Scrappy ''Race''. Thanks to being tied to both games' [[That One Sidequest|longest and most tedious sidequest]] (which manages to be a complete waste of time if you go for 100%, just to add insult to injury) these cute little tree guys are hated far more than any monster or [[Demonic Spiders|Guardian]]. Their new escort missions where you have to lead an immobile Korok to its friend in ''Tears of the Kingdom'' instantly attracted a ''lot'' of eye-rolling and groaning... only for players to quickly find out that they're a blessing in disguise. Since you can stick Koroks to vehicles and other contraptions that you make for the purpose of making transportation easier, [[Video Game Cruelty Potential|that also means you can attach them to ''Korok torture devices'']] so you can get [[Take That, Scrappy!|sweet, sweet revenge against the annoying little pests.]]
== World of Warcraft ==
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