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* This will happen just about any time that a band changes its lead vocalist.
* There will be members of any fan base who react this way to a band's new album.
* This trope can also occur when the image of an artist changes, even if the music is mostly the same. This is common when an innocent teen pop star sexualises their image as they 'mature', which can alienate a lot of fans that liked them for who they were up to that point. This has happened with [[Britney Spears (Music)|Britney Spears]], [[Avril Lavigne (Music)|Avril Lavigne]], [[Christina Aguilera (Music)|Christina Aguilera]] and many others.
* Y'know what? Let's just say most artists on [[New Sound Album|this page]] and call it a day.
* [[Bob Dylan]]: The [[Ur Example]] in popular music. Acoustic to Electric with ''Bringin' it All Back Home''. As [[The Other Wiki]] will [http[wikipedia://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Dylan_controversyElectric Dylan controversy|tell you]], this was [[Serious Business]]. Please note: this is [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]] that warrants a (fairly long and ''extremely'' well-sourced) article on [[The Other Wiki]].
** His 1979 conversion to Christianity and the resulting ''Slow Train Coming'' album led to a similar backlash.
* [[Angels and Airwaves (Music)|Angels and Airwaves]] was pretty much doomed to this from the beginning. The band was formed by Blink182 frontman Tom Delonge soon after Blink's breakup, and it was meant to be his next big project. Disgruntled Blink fans, still angry about the beloved band breaking up, formed a pretty sizable [[Hatedom]] once they realized that [[Angels and Airwaves (Music)|Angels and Airwaves]] wasn't Blink 182 2.0.
* The Human League began as a very dark synth band whose songs rarely featured any instrumentation but stark synths and vocals. After the band's second album came out, the band's singer Phil Oakey wanted to play pop music but Martyn Ware did not want to, he fired him kicked him out. Ian Craig Marsh followed him and they formed Heaven 17. To replace the members that left, Oakey and Wright got two female students, Susan Ann Sulley and Joanne Catherall to replace them. This did not go down well with their fans. Whilst the album ''Dare'', the first to be released with the new line up, was not stylistically very different from their old work with the exception of the singles Love Action and Open Your Heart, the band had built up a huge fanbase from their earlier line up and the backlash towards the girls was quite aggressive. It should be noted that the single I Don't Depend On You, released in 1979 before their first album under the pseudonym "The Men" sounds exactly like the sort of thing the band would go on to produce in their second line up two years later, which means there is no pleasing some people.
* When [[Nightwish (Music)|Nightwish]] lead vocalist, Tarja Turunen, left the group, she was replaced by Anette Olzon. While the band remains very successful, their more vocal fans are insisting that that Anette sucks and that Nightwish should get Tarja back.
** Other fans believe the band's style started to change into a more euro-pop genre since Century Child.
* [[Theatre of Tragedy]] changed from a pioneering gothic metal band on their first few albums into [[Lighter and Softer|full-blown Europop]] with ''Musique'' and ''Assembly''. [[Broken Base|Many fans]] were not happy, to say the least. Then they [[The Band Minus the Face|got rid of lead singer Liv Kristine]], who went on to form her own band, Leaves Eyes, [[Breakup Breakout|which is actually pretty good.]]
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* [[Electric Light Orchestra]]: ''Discovery''
* [[Jewel]], many times
* [[Kanye West]]: ''808's And Heartbreaks'' (R&B? [[AutotuneAuto-Tune]]?)
* [[Linkin Park]]: ''Minutes To Midnight'', and now ''A Thousand Suns''
** Interestingly enough, at least one song on their latest album seems to directly address this, with it being the most obvious at lines like "...'Cause even a blueprint is a gift and a curse, 'cause once you got a theory of how the thing works, everybody wants the next thing to be just like the first."
*** And telling them to [[Take That|"start catching up]] [[This Is for Emphasis, Bitch|motherfucker"]]
* [[Pink Floyd]]: [[Your Mileage May Vary]] as to which phase of the band's history suffered the most from a change of style.
* [[Radiohead]]: ''Kid A'' and ''Amnesiac''. Both albums are extremely well received today, however.
* [[The Decemberists]]: ''The Crane Wife'' ("[[Progressive Rock]]? Where are the sea shanties?") then again on ''Hazards of Love'' ("Power chords? Wait, what?")
* [[Tori Amos (Music)|Tori Amos]]: her last four albums
* [[Village People]] The ''Renaissance'' Album
* [[Napalm Death]]: ''Harmony Corruption'' onwards, when they started to take on death metal influences (and later industrial and black metal).
* Some people don't like live recordings, because they feel that it "ruins" the songs that they love so much. On the flip side, though, people who do like live recordings generally [[ItsIt's the Same, Now It Sucks|don't want them to sound too much like the studio versions]].
* [[Neil Young]]: ''Trans'', to the point that [[Geffen]] sued Neil Young for not sounding like Neil Young.
* Many Modest Mouse fans complain that this happened to the band upon the release of ''Good News for People who Like Bad News,'' perhaps because it featured radio-friendly material like ''Float On.''
* [[Queen]]'s 1979-1982 period comes to mind. Freddie Mercury grew a [[Porn Stache|moustache]], the band released a [[Everythings Funkier With Disco|disco single]] ("Another One Bites The Dust") followed by an [[Up to Eleven|even more disco-influenced]] album (''Hot Space''), incorporated synthesizers into the band after a "No Synths!" tradition in the studio, and in many ways alienated their hard rock fanbase, especially in America. Queen stopped touring in North America after 1982 as a result, and would not have a major hit in America again until "Bohemian Rhapsody" was rereleased and used in the movie, ''[[Waynes World|Wayne's World]]'' in 1992 after Freddie's death.
** It's important to note that the band was never against synthesisers, they just didn't need to use them because they could make their sound effects themselves and wanted to advertise that fact.
** [[Word of God]] (AKA Brian May) said the lack of synths in the 70's had a lot to do with how awful synths sounded at the time. They relaxed the restriction in the 80's because by then synthesizer technology had advanced to where they could actually use them musically instead of just making loud squealy noises.
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** This troper didn't find that transition as troubling as the one between The Black Parade and Danger Days. MCR discovered synths, and nothing was the same.
* [[Liz Phair]]: Pretty much every post-''Exile in Guyville'' album, but 2003's blatantly, unapologetically commercial ''Liz Phair'' especially alienated her established fanbase.
* [[Metallica (Music)|Metallica]]'s self-titled album was a shift from thrash metal to a style reminiscent of more traditional heavy metal with a bit of hard rock influence. Cue the bitching.
** [[Your Mileage May Vary|Some might say]] the band started derailing from the thrash metal genre on ''...And Justice For All,'' a relatively over-produced, almost progressive-like album.
*** [[Your Mileage May Vary|Still others say]] the band began to stray from their thrash metal roots as early as ''Master of Puppets''.
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* Faces of countless fans were red with rage when they heard Morbid Angel's new album Illud Divinum Insanus for the first time. In their eyes, [[Morbid Angel]] had gone from being one of the best and most influential [[Death Metal]] bands of all time to being a cheap [[Rob Zombie]] / [[Marilyn Manson]] ripoff.
* [[The Mountain Goats]] post-''Tallahassee'', [[Your Mileage May Vary|according]] [[Broken Base|to some]].
* Even [[The Beatles (Musicband)|The Beatles]] came in for this; their change of style and approach in their later albums (particularly ''Sgt. Pepper'' onwards) gradually isolated the fans of their earlier, more traditional '[[Silly Love Songs|pop love-ballads]]' approach.
** This was pretty [[Paul McCartney|Paul McCartney's]] reaction to the changes Phil Spector make to ''[[The Beatles|Let It Be]]'', particularly in the case of "The Long and Winding Road."
* [[Avenged Sevenfold (Music)|Avenged Sevenfold]]'s self-titled release has been seen by some as a drastic change in their nature of playing.
** Some might also consider ''City Of Evil'' inferior as well, because it was the first album to not feature M. Shadows' screamish style featured on their previous releases.
* [[Oasis]] had this from many people on the release of their album 'Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants', despite the demand for change from much of the music press following their previous album 'Be Here Now', when Oasis did vary their sound the press hounded them for it. Many Oasis fans see 'Giants' (as well as 'Be Here Now') as misunderstood and unfairly maligned records, especially with tracks such as 'Go Let It Out' and the fan favourite 'Gas Panic!'.
* When [[Weezer]] released ''Pinkerton'', it was blasted by critics and listeners alike for being darker than ''The Blue Album''. Then after shifting back to more upbeat songs, ''Pinkerton'' became a fan favorite and [[Unpleasable Fanbase|the band was criticized for changing their style back]].
* When the survivng members of [[Sublime]] found a new singer/frontman/lead guitarist, a certain portion of their fanbase might as well have made this their rallying cry.
* Judas Priest: Even though Tim Owens moving from tribute band frontman to actual Judas Priest frontman was exciting enough to lead to a film [[Very Loosely Based Onon a True Story]], he just couldn't replace Rob Halford, so they finally brought him back.
** Many fans also revolted at the release of the 1986 "synthpop" album ''Turbo'', even though that's a very enjoyable album and - some would argue - one of Priest's best. More importantly, videos based on the ''Turbo'' songs got massive airplay on MTV, and Priest (and heavy metal in general) started to attract a lot of female fans, even to the point where there seemed to be as many girls as there were boys at their concerts. It's when Priest tried to [[AuthorsAuthor's Saving Throw|make up for this]] that they arguably started to go off the rails: they worked hard to establish themselves as a purely "thrash" band like Metallica, in the process sacrificing a lot of the eclecticism that had made them popular among all music fans and not just metal ones.
* When [[Iced Earth]]'s Matt Barlow quit so he could focus on his career as a police officer, band leader and guitarist John Schafer opted not to find a similar baritone vocalist and instead hired the tenor Tim "Ripper" Owens, who was already a replacement scrappy for [[Judas Priest (Music)|Judas Priest]]. The fans were not pleased despite Owens being a very skilled vocalist in his own right simply because he wasn't Matt Barlow. [[Americans Hate Tingle|Europeans were especially volatile.]]
* [[Miley Cyrus]]' ''Can't Be Tamed''. Some didn't enjoy her darker image and the overusage of "electro-pop-ish" technology.
* [[Hello! Project|Morning Musume]]: Happens every time a new generation of girls is brought in. Or after every new song released post-"Golden Era".
* Animal Collective: Merriweather Post Pavilion
* MGMT's "Congratulations". Well, it's not even necessarily that different from Oracular Spectacular, it just isn't 45 minutes of Electric Feel, which seemed to displease some.
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* ''[[Flyleaf]]'''s second album. The first was vaguely Christian, if not unnoticeably Christian. The newest one, while not [[Not Christian Rock|confirmed]] [[Alternate Character Interpretation|to be]], has a more Christian overtone. There's also the calmer tone of it, fitting the theme of the album in sharp contract to the first album which was full of guitars, drums, and screaming.
* [[Taylor Swift]] is the undisputed Country Music Queen of this trope. Her first album was surprisingly mature in content, especially given her young age. The second, however, switched to a "teen country-pop" format with songs that wouldn't sound out of place on a Miley Cyrus or Jonas Brothers album. Needless to say, this has caused quite the [[Broken Base]] to form; one half (mostly the younger half) loves the change in tone. The other (older) half? Let's just say "Soulless Sell-Out" is one of the ''nicer'' things they have to say about her (made worse in that, because she writes most of her own songs, she can't even blame [[Executive Meddling]] for it.).
* A small, but vocal section of [[Dream Theater (Music)|Dream Theater]]'s fanbase believes that nothing the band wrote after "Images and Words" has any merit. Not just inferior, but totally worthless. This is a problem because "Images" was their second album...out of ''eleven''.
* Fans of [[King Crimson]] shouted this when the band went from prog rock to new wave in the early 1980s. In fact, this has been a constant problem the band has faced; for example, during the ''Islands'' era, someone wrote "Play the old tunes - the new ones are crap" on the band's tour van.
* Shiny Toy Guns' [[New Sound Album]] ''Season of Poison''.
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