They Changed It, Now It Sucks/Tabletop Games: Difference between revisions

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* Among the ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'' changes this has been applied to: The Sixth Edition rules changes, the Eighth Edition card face changes, removing Armageddon from the base set, making counterspells more expensive, moving from "Xth Edition" to "Magic 20XX", the Great Creature Type Update, the creation of Type 2, the name change from Type 2 to Standard... and so on.

** Not just Editions. Errata. Adjustments and changes to how powers work can set the forums exploding with "Class X is worthless now!"

** Complaining about nerfs to characters, in which people might have invested a lot of time is perfectly legitimate. Particularly as, depending on the edition, many/all builds rely on a very limited array of tricks and nerfing even one of them can push a character below the ability that the game assumes to be appropriate for his level.

*** It's also a meaningless complaint. Most good DM's are savvy enough not to start adding optional rules that nerf characters mid-game unless the class was a [[Game Breaker]].

** The trend from AD&D through 4E has always been about where to sacrifice verisimilitude to accommodate game-playability. Barring [[Game Breaker|poor testing]], the later editions are more mechanically balanced at the cost of things actually making sense from an in-game perspective. The feud is always about how far in either direction is "too far", with most people siding with whichever edition they started with.

** This trope combined with [[Broken Base]] makes D&D less a game system and more a collection of games with similar concepts but are ultimately separate in reality. The announcement that work is being done on writing future a 5th edition that will have modular rules as its selling point seems to be a case of [[Wizards of the Coast]] attempting to capitalize on this division.

* When people on the Privateer Press forums found out that one of the newest units for [[Iron Kingdoms|Warmachine]] was going to be plastic instead of metal, reactions were...mixed. Many people welcomed the change but a particularly vocal minority condemned it for straying from the "Full Metal Fantasy" aesthetic that the company had cultivated up to that point, among other things.

* ''[[Earthdawn]]'''s Second Edition had this happen to it as well; in principle the changes to the system were instituted to fix the various broken things in the first release - ED players were subsequently upset that the update broke off backwards compatibility with said First Edition. "Show me the Lightbringers!"

* The new edition of ''Hero System'' (aka ''Champions'') has caused a fair bit of brain meltdown in its longtime fanbase, who have declared it not only sucky but [[Ruined FOREVER]], and that all of their old stuff has been rendered completely unusable and there's absolutely no chance for it to interact with older versions. The only actual differences are the removal of an almost completely unused stat ([[Most Common Superpower|"comeliness"]]) and a single power type that almost nobody used anyway.

* An interesting variation occurs with every new edition of a [[Games Workshop]] game. Players will claim that the new edition is "dumbed-down" and aimed only at younger players, unlike the previous edition. This exact argument comes up ''every single time'' a new edition is released.

** The 2011 Sisters of Battle codex has received a very negative reception. Most players felt that the already not-very-powerful Sisters went from "mid-low tier" to "absolutely unplayable." Some of the other changes really led to head-scratching, such as the new Faith system which gives an army 1d6 faith per turn - whether that army is a 500 point skirmish force or a 3000 point massive force. Complaints include failing to scale powers, confusing powers, and nerfing an underpowered army. They changed it so it's simply not even worth fielding. [[Non Fanon|Players tend to ignore the codex update altogether]].

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