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I think I'll have to check her relationship with her raven again to see if that counts as Pet the Dog or not. Because otherwise she's at least a borderline example of the trope in the original movie, being The Devil incarnate and heinous by the standards of that world and it's story. In KH she certainly isn't a CM, but then again, Shan Yu most certainly was a CM in his movie but just a Generic Doomsday Villain in KH2. Only Scar and Frollo retained their status. (Oh and I hate how the Maleficent movie turned out too. What the Hell were they even thinking?)

Well we can definitely say that Jolie's Maleficent is nothing like the Disney version. Neither is the one on Once Upon A Time. It's mainly the Disney animated version and how she's used in stuff like House Of Mouse or KH that gets me. Sweeney Todd and Ganon are cases where their incarnations differ, where Maleficent is like Cyrus: he was redeemable elsewhere in the franchise, so him being so in the games universe doesn't seem as unlikely. Does the same hold true for Maleficent? I feel the same as you, really: I lean more towards yes but because the issue is so tricky, I'm not sure she should be listed on the main trope page.

It's mainly for two reasons. One is Glenn Close, while hamming it up, did deliberately play her as 100% devilish and vile. And two is the additions they made to her character in the first film, where she's now seen as the head of a fashion business that Anita works for but has secretly been having her minions abduct animals and take them to a skinner who kills them and skins the fur hides off for Cruella to use as new outfits that she could profit off of, in short, a secret illegal poaching operation. The way this is shown to us is her having a rare Siberian tiger abducted from a zoo, meaning that she's greatly inconvenienced animals and humans for who knows how long just to benefit herself. Out of greed and love for fur fashion in general, not to mention a very clear disgust for animals in general. In the sequel she has been forcibly changed by therapy to be a better person and model citizen, but it gets undone due to a mental breakdown triggered by loud noise, played as Cruella's "true nature" coming back as she remembers who she really is, suggesting that she was never truly redeemable in the long run. Afterwards she frames a guy for dognapping, manipulates said guy's lover into letting her guard down while her minions go after the puppies she's after, tries to have the puppies killed at a skinning factory, and locks the two human protagonists up in a cellar to rot when they intervene. Oh, and she deals out a lot of abuse to her main employee, Alonzo. In general, her character is still very camp but there's notably more menace added to her as well.