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Noticeably decayed and overlapping, so needs better definitions (at least Written by the Winners) and sorting for the less vague criteria.

I propose to add

See also Historical Villain Upgrade/Historical Hero Upgrade for the cases of the stories being far removed from the interested parties telling them.

then limit the first at least to continuously existing political camps, and use the last for what didn't fit in the first 3.

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